It's because of people like you that they're making this fucking game.
People who enjoy fun action games? Oh ok?
And not to derail but for me 3 is the worst Die Hard for me, not a bad movie, but it doesn't line up like the other 3.
I trust the team doing it, I trust rockstar to not screw up what could be a large money market game for them. And I trust I need more info before I say a game that was only recently alive is going to not live up to its previous iterations.
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It's because of people like you that they're making this fucking game.
People who enjoy fun action games? Oh ok?
And not to derail but for me 3 is the worst Die Hard for me, not a bad movie, but it doesn't line up like the other 3.
I trust the team doing it, I trust rockstar to not screw up what could be a large money market game for them. And I trust I need more info before I say a game that was only recently alive is going to not live up to its previous iterations.
Rockstar is exactly why I have no faith in this game, really. If Remedy wanted to do something different with the setting and Max's look and had Sam Lake at the reigns, I'd be all for it.
But as it is, I've never played a Rockstar game that wasn't overly long and intensely repetitious. I don't really want to argue about their writing, but I think their characters tend to either be wholly uninteresting, cliche, contradictory, or all three, which doesn't really tend to build them up to much of anything. When they're not trying to just be funny, they are extremely humorless and when they are trying to be funny, their humor is amazingly juvenile and their jokes haven't really changed for a decade.
They also often seem to have trouble holding on to a tone in their games. GTA4, especially, felt very indecisive about what it wanted to be at any one moment.
Pull those things together and I'm not sure how well it will turn out. But if this is the studio that made Bully and The Warriors, then, uh... yay? I guess?
Rockstar is exactly why I have no faith in this game, really. If Remedy wanted to do something different with the setting and Max's look and had Sam Lake at the reigns, I'd be all for it.
But as it is, I've never played a Rockstar game that wasn't overly long and intensely repetitious. I don't really want to argue about their writing, but I think their characters tend to either be wholly uninteresting, cliche, contradictory, or all three, which doesn't really tend to build them up to much of anything. When they're not trying to just be funny, they are extremely humorless and when they are trying to be funny, their humor is amazingly juvenile and their jokes haven't really changed for a decade.
They also often seem to have trouble holding on to a tone in their games. GTA4, especially, felt very indecisive about what it wanted to be at any one moment.
Pull those things together and I'm not sure how well it will turn out. But if this is the studio that made Bully and The Warriors, then, uh... yay? I guess?
Very well put. I think this sums up a lot of peoples opinion. This is just like Far Cry 2. The new game will have next to nothing to do with the original 2. However where the Farcry IP was empty and nearly useless anyway the Max Payne IP is the exact opposite. Now with a movie and this game it is getting tortured.
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You all make me jaded at my own community. Thanks.
And fuck you all Indy 4 was awesome abloobloobloo the fridge got nuked abloobloobloo but the wrath of god melting nazis from a stone box is cool abloobloobloo
And fuck you all Indy 4 was awesome abloobloobloo the fridge got nuked abloobloobloo but the wrath of god melting nazis from a stone box is cool abloobloobloo
No wonder you're so excited for this game.
Edit: Also where in MP1 or MP2 did Max get addicted to anything because Mr. Zen I am sure that was not in the games.
And fuck you all Indy 4 was awesome abloobloobloo the fridge got nuked abloobloobloo but the wrath of god melting nazis from a stone box is cool abloobloobloo
No wonder you're so excited for this game.
Edit: Also where in MP1 or MP2 did Max get addicted to anything because Mr. Zen I am sure that was not in the games.
Umm you used painkillers to reduce damage, you popped them like fucking candy. The second game kind of implied alcohol abuse.
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I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
I thought the Kingdom of Crystal Skull was pretty much on par with the rest of the Indy movies.
Oh, Max Payne 3? Yeah I guess it's probably going to me a good game but damn if it doesn't sound like the only connection to the previous games is the title character's name.
And fuck you all Indy 4 was awesome abloobloobloo the fridge got nuked abloobloobloo but the wrath of god melting nazis from a stone box is cool abloobloobloo
No wonder you're so excited for this game.
Edit: Also where in MP1 or MP2 did Max get addicted to anything because Mr. Zen I am sure that was not in the games.
Umm you used painkillers to reduce damage, you popped them like fucking candy. The second game kind of implied alcohol abuse.
Umm the game never mentioned addiction that Zen keeps bringing up. If you're going to say that popping pills means it's an addiction, you're gonna have to explain magic regeneration or using a first-aid kit to heal your nearly dead person over and over and over and over.
Umm the game never mentioned addiction that Zen keeps bringing up. If you're going to say that popping pills means it's an addiction, you're gonna have to explain magic regeneration or using a first-aid kit to heal your nearly dead person over and over and over and over.
Oh sorry the fact you down more pills than Heath Ledger having sleeping troubles certainly doesn't imply some form of addiction.
Come on goomba! Max even trips out in the second game!
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I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
Umm the game never mentioned addiction that Zen keeps bringing up. If you're going to say that popping pills means it's an addiction, you're gonna have to explain magic regeneration or using a first-aid kit to heal your nearly dead person over and over and over and over.
Oh sorry the fact you down more pills than Heath Ledger having sleeping troubles certainly doesn't imply some form of addiction.
Come on goomba! Max even trips out in the second game!
Umm the game never mentioned addiction that Zen keeps bringing up. If you're going to say that popping pills means it's an addiction, you're gonna have to explain magic regeneration or using a first-aid kit to heal your nearly dead person over and over and over and over.
Oh sorry the fact you down more pills than Heath Ledger having sleeping troubles certainly doesn't imply some form of addiction.
Come on goomba! Max even trips out in the second game!
He, uh... he tripped out in the first game.
You know. From the massive amounts of V.
Unless you mean the nightmares?
Also in the first game.
Yes I know, but in the second game he didn't have V running through his veins and he still tripped out. The man had issues, its not a leap of logic from what you as the player do in the game to suggest he developed a dependency on pain pills. A lot of people do from repeated use.
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I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
Umm the game never mentioned addiction that Zen keeps bringing up. If you're going to say that popping pills means it's an addiction, you're gonna have to explain magic regeneration or using a first-aid kit to heal your nearly dead person over and over and over and over.
Oh sorry the fact you down more pills than Heath Ledger having sleeping troubles certainly doesn't imply some form of addiction.
Come on goomba! Max even trips out in the second game!
He, uh... he tripped out in the first game.
You know. From the massive amounts of V.
Unless you mean the nightmares?
Also in the first game.
Yes I know, but in the second game he didn't have V running through his veins and he still tripped out. The man had issues, its not a leap of logic from what you as the player do in the game to suggest he developed a dependency on pain pills. A lot of people do from repeated use.
I know. It's not like it's going to retard developer X.
They want to make Max Payne to his logical conclusion: a man with nothing to lose. What they fuck did you expect him to be after losing the love of his life twice and not being able to save them, becoming addicted to painkillers, and hating everything?
Fucking Mark Wahlberg?
He does save her. They've just chosen to ignore that apparently.
Either ending I'm pretty sure he says hes ok to, moved on from his wifes death.
I know. It's not like it's going to retard developer X.
They want to make Max Payne to his logical conclusion: a man with nothing to lose. What they fuck did you expect him to be after losing the love of his life twice and not being able to save them, becoming addicted to painkillers, and hating everything?
Fucking Mark Wahlberg?
He does save her. They've just chosen to ignore that apparently.
Either ending I'm pretty sure he says hes ok to, moved on from his wifes death.
Mona living is a stupid alternate ending that most people probably never even saw.
It felt as lame and anti-climactic an ending as it was so I'll be glad if they choose to ignore it. But yes, he does come to terms with things at the end. He doesn't even sound that put off by Mona's death, instead reflecting on the good she did for him and his struggles with his emotional demons.
I know. It's not like it's going to retard developer X.
They want to make Max Payne to his logical conclusion: a man with nothing to lose. What they fuck did you expect him to be after losing the love of his life twice and not being able to save them, becoming addicted to painkillers, and hating everything?
Fucking Mark Wahlberg?
He does save her. They've just chosen to ignore that apparently.
Either ending I'm pretty sure he says hes ok to, moved on from his wifes death.
Mona living is a stupid alternate ending that most people probably never even saw.
It felt as lame and anti-climactic an ending as it was so I'll be glad if they choose to ignore it. But yes, he does come to terms with things at the end. He doesn't even sound that put off by Mona's death, instead reflecting on the good she did for him and his struggles with his emotional demons.
Why was it stupid? That was his peace. And Max has survived a hell of a lot more than Mona has.
I know. It's not like it's going to retard developer X.
They want to make Max Payne to his logical conclusion: a man with nothing to lose. What they fuck did you expect him to be after losing the love of his life twice and not being able to save them, becoming addicted to painkillers, and hating everything?
Fucking Mark Wahlberg?
He does save her. They've just chosen to ignore that apparently.
Either ending I'm pretty sure he says hes ok to, moved on from his wifes death.
Mona living is a stupid alternate ending that most people probably never even saw.
It felt as lame and anti-climactic an ending as it was so I'll be glad if they choose to ignore it. But yes, he does come to terms with things at the end. He doesn't even sound that put off by Mona's death, instead reflecting on the good she did for him and his struggles with his emotional demons.
Why was it stupid? That was his peace. And Max has survived a hell of a lot more than Mona has.
Why was it stupid?
Mona gets shot. Max gets angry. Max kills people. Max goes to rejoin her. Oops, she's fine. Oh, she just got up. She doesn't even look injured. Okay.
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edited June 2009
I'm glad that this series is (apparently) going in a different direction. I'll take this paunchy, bearded junkie over dipshit constipated face any day.
There wasn't that much visual fidelity between Max's character model in the first two games anyhoo:
Well the face for Max in the first game was the face of his creator. I can only assume they couldn't come up with anything better at the tame, and kind of used him as a placeholder.
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G RolDorsia? Nobody goes there anymore...Nell'sRegistered Userregular
Yeah, G Rol, look at those terrible graphics. Ugh, what an awful game.
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I, uh, don't have a problem with the graphics. I don't get your meaning (unless you're totally serious, which isn't likely given..you know, the internet and all).
Max payne 1 is just a picture placed over a 3D head
Remedy used real people for both versions of Max. Sam Lake for MP1, and Tim Gibbs for MP2. Honestly, Rockstar's Max Payne does look like Gibbs if he was ten years older, and bald.
It's not just Max either. Everyone in both games are modeled after real people and the graphic novel story sections are photoshopped still images from photoshoots set against a white background.
Most characters in the first game are based off of Remedy employees and their family members and friends.
It's not just Max either. Everyone in both games are modeled after real people and the graphic novel story sections are photoshopped still images from photoshoots set against a white background.
Most characters in the first game are based off of Remedy employees and their family members and friends.
Yep. It was weird when I first came across these.
I'm assuming Rockstar isn't going to continue hiring actors, but who knows?
It's not just Max either. Everyone in both games are modeled after real people and the graphic novel story sections are photoshopped still images from photoshoots set against a white background.
Most characters in the first game are based off of Remedy employees and their family members and friends.
Explains why all the New Yorkers look Scandinavian.
Also as far as MP3 having a real meaningful narrative, I still just can't see it happening, at least in my eyes. While Max did have closure after the first game by killing the people responsible for Valkyr, he left a lot of loose ends. Why did Woden help him, and what was Vladimir Lem going to do after Max helped him in the first game? His story clearly wasn't over. Hence why they made a second game. But after the second game, there's just nothing left. Woden is dead, Vlad is dead. The Inner Circle is gone. Mona is gone. And Max finally has closure; Through Mona he realised what it was to care for someone, and he realised that part of caring for someone is the knowledge that you will one day lose them.
I just feel like we've already explored every facet of Max's character. I feel like he's had his run, and honestly, I just don't have any desire to follow him through another narrative, because I feel like I know him already, and there just won't be anything I haven't seen in either MP1 or 2.
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People who enjoy fun action games? Oh ok?
And not to derail but for me 3 is the worst Die Hard for me, not a bad movie, but it doesn't line up like the other 3.
I trust the team doing it, I trust rockstar to not screw up what could be a large money market game for them. And I trust I need more info before I say a game that was only recently alive is going to not live up to its previous iterations.
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But as it is, I've never played a Rockstar game that wasn't overly long and intensely repetitious. I don't really want to argue about their writing, but I think their characters tend to either be wholly uninteresting, cliche, contradictory, or all three, which doesn't really tend to build them up to much of anything. When they're not trying to just be funny, they are extremely humorless and when they are trying to be funny, their humor is amazingly juvenile and their jokes haven't really changed for a decade.
They also often seem to have trouble holding on to a tone in their games. GTA4, especially, felt very indecisive about what it wanted to be at any one moment.
Pull those things together and I'm not sure how well it will turn out. But if this is the studio that made Bully and The Warriors, then, uh... yay? I guess?
Very well put. I think this sums up a lot of peoples opinion. This is just like Far Cry 2. The new game will have next to nothing to do with the original 2. However where the Farcry IP was empty and nearly useless anyway the Max Payne IP is the exact opposite. Now with a movie and this game it is getting tortured.
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lets commiserate together. maybe we can touch dicks.
None of the Die Hard movies measure up to the first one, the third is alright but it's a pretty distant second.
In conclusion John McClane has hair in all the good Die Hards.
DID SOMEBODY JUST TALK SHIT ABOUT DIE HARD WITH A VENGEANCE
Edit: Also where in MP1 or MP2 did Max get addicted to anything because Mr. Zen I am sure that was not in the games.
Umm you used painkillers to reduce damage, you popped them like fucking candy. The second game kind of implied alcohol abuse.
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Oh, Max Payne 3? Yeah I guess it's probably going to me a good game but damn if it doesn't sound like the only connection to the previous games is the title character's name.
Oh sorry the fact you down more pills than Heath Ledger having sleeping troubles certainly doesn't imply some form of addiction.
Come on goomba! Max even trips out in the second game!
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You know. From the massive amounts of V.
Unless you mean the nightmares?
Also in the first game.
Indy 4 sucked ass. MEGA ass.
Die Hard 4 sucked ass. Just not as much MEGA ass as Indy 4.
In conclusion. aging action stars need to retire to strictly dramas. Or just retire.
Yes I know, but in the second game he didn't have V running through his veins and he still tripped out. The man had issues, its not a leap of logic from what you as the player do in the game to suggest he developed a dependency on pain pills. A lot of people do from repeated use.
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Die Hard 4 wasn't even a Die Hard film, was just an action movie. John McClane does not ride fucking jets.
He does save her. They've just chosen to ignore that apparently.
Either ending I'm pretty sure he says hes ok to, moved on from his wifes death.
Mona living is a stupid alternate ending that most people probably never even saw.
It felt as lame and anti-climactic an ending as it was so I'll be glad if they choose to ignore it. But yes, he does come to terms with things at the end. He doesn't even sound that put off by Mona's death, instead reflecting on the good she did for him and his struggles with his emotional demons.
Why was it stupid? That was his peace. And Max has survived a hell of a lot more than Mona has.
Why was it stupid?
Mona gets shot. Max gets angry. Max kills people. Max goes to rejoin her. Oops, she's fine. Oh, she just got up. She doesn't even look injured. Okay.
There wasn't that much visual fidelity between Max's character model in the first two games anyhoo:
That's like, two totally different dudes.
Max Payne 1 still looks pretty good actually.
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I, uh, don't have a problem with the graphics. I don't get your meaning (unless you're totally serious, which isn't likely given..you know, the internet and all).
Also, Max's voice is fantastic, it's a shame I'm straight, otherwise I'd have to marry the voice actor.
Yes, Max looked the exact same in both games
edit: Wait, I read that wrong, because one of the images won't load
Max payne 1 is just a photo placed over a 3D head
Remedy used real people for both versions of Max. Sam Lake for MP1, and Tim Gibbs for MP2. Honestly, Rockstar's Max Payne does look like Gibbs if he was ten years older, and bald.
Huh, didn't knew that.
Most characters in the first game are based off of Remedy employees and their family members and friends.
Yep. It was weird when I first came across these.
I'm assuming Rockstar isn't going to continue hiring actors, but who knows?
Explains why all the New Yorkers look Scandinavian.
Also as far as MP3 having a real meaningful narrative, I still just can't see it happening, at least in my eyes. While Max did have closure after the first game by killing the people responsible for Valkyr, he left a lot of loose ends. Why did Woden help him, and what was Vladimir Lem going to do after Max helped him in the first game? His story clearly wasn't over. Hence why they made a second game. But after the second game, there's just nothing left. Woden is dead, Vlad is dead. The Inner Circle is gone. Mona is gone. And Max finally has closure; Through Mona he realised what it was to care for someone, and he realised that part of caring for someone is the knowledge that you will one day lose them.
I just feel like we've already explored every facet of Max's character. I feel like he's had his run, and honestly, I just don't have any desire to follow him through another narrative, because I feel like I know him already, and there just won't be anything I haven't seen in either MP1 or 2.
This would be hilarious if I didn't think you were being serious.
Final off-topic post...biggest reason why DH4 sucked balls: PG-13.