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[FFXIV] The Fantasy Finally Begins! (Go to Wutai.)

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    BeltaineBeltaine BOO BOO DOO DE DOORegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Is there an online installer that will let me pre-load before next Thursday?

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    useruser Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    AtomBomb wrote: »
    user wrote: »
    On that note, I am in desperate need of Fish Glue! It is used for the upgrade for my tanning tool, I've managed to source the parts for it and I'm just missing the glue. There are 3 fishes that can make Fish Glue, so if you happen to have Dark Bass, Indigo Herring or Wahoo, hold on to them.

    I think those are all grade 3 fish, so I can't pull them up yet. Since we have such a pressing need for them I'll work on that. I've heard some random shouts for fish glue, so I'm sure once we're all taken care of I can turn them into $$. Do we have anyone that can make the glue?

    According to the list we have one resident alchemist. But if you're going for the fish then I will personally level alchemy to the point at which I can make the fish glue, Preserve would be great to have, it compliments leatherworking anyway, and I wouldn't mind synthing crystals, shards and moraines.

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    ICANHASDANNOICANHASDANNO Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Back in, running around Gridania. Anyone nearby that could supply me with a linkpearl?

    Character name is Muni Buni.

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    AtomBombAtomBomb Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    user wrote: »
    According to the list we have one resident alchemist. But if you're going for the fish then I will personally level alchemy to the point at which I can make the fish glue, Preserve would be great to have, it compliments leatherworking anyway, and I wouldn't mind synthing crystals, shards and moraines.

    I don't mind leveling alchemy either :) My plan tonight is to get to level 10 so I can do the quest for 15k gil, by which point the guildleves should have reset and I can work on my crafting.

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    AkiraAkira Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Well whoever decides to level Alchemy, I can make Copper Alembics (the main tool) which is a pretty good upgrade from the basic Weathered version. It's not too hard to do especially if you have a Fire Crystal to spare.

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    NovembersChopinNovembersChopin Las VegasRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    So far, the retail build has ran great. My biggest gripe with the game right now is all the damn little things that
    SE seems to think we don't need! :evil: I REALLY hope they are just working on more important technical issues before they address these features.

    - 2 Sentence Reply Limit?
    - No Party Display on Maps
    - No Party Invite commands
    - No Linkshell members location info
    - Of course...no damn search function for Retainers
    - No damn search function for retainers
    - Search Function for Retainers <Can I have it?>

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    vamenvamen Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    November - you can reply to tells by hitting SPACE then CTRL + R.

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    NovembersChopinNovembersChopin Las VegasRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    vamen wrote: »
    November - you can reply to tells by hitting SPACE then CTRL + R.

    Thank you, you are the greatest. I will remove that line now...:mrgreen:

    BTW, if anyone on here happens to not be on Wutai, I am on the Besaid server (clan decision) so if you need a casual/mature LS/Vent Access, send me a PM.

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    AtomBombAtomBomb Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Akira wrote: »
    Well whoever decides to level Alchemy, I can make Copper Alembics (the main tool) which is a pretty good upgrade from the basic Weathered version. It's not too hard to do especially if you have a Fire Crystal to spare.

    Can you make the weaver copper needle? I was going to buy one off of a bazaar for 1k, but I thought I should see if my gil could go to a guildie.

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    seabassseabass Doctor MassachusettsRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Is there anyone around to give Bassi Wassi a pearl? I'd be much oblidged.

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    NeurotikaNeurotika Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    So far, the retail build has ran great. My biggest gripe with the game right now is all the damn little things that
    SE seems to think we don't need! :evil: I REALLY hope they are just working on more important technical issues before they address these features.

    - No Party Invite commands

    You can use the "recruit" option in the party menu to open up your party, then have the other player "search" for it.

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    PikaPuffPikaPuff Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    My FFXIV Guide for people new to the game.

    Step 1: Buy a controller. 360 USB is most commonly suggested. Have at least two analog sticks, a d-pad, and 10 buttons to use a default configuration.

    Step 2: Installation and patching. Try to patch. If it sucks, go to your game folder in documents (vista/7) and find the FFXIV metadata patch folders. These contain .torrents. Torrent the file then copy it into the correct folder. Run the game again and the game should find/use the patch you got.

    Step 3: Accounts. Input codes before you make your character to get the code. If you're using your free month/buddy code, use "pay with crysta" and pick any payment (1-8 characters) and the fee will be waived at the end (for the first month). Hearsay says clickandbuy sucks, so try using the other option, ultimatepay, to buy crysta. This method uses paypal. Use the code on the back of your book to link the game to your account.

    Step 4: Making a character. The characteristics are VERY SUBTLE. And on "humans", characteristics (the 4 types) change the breast size for females. The three starting cities all have different storylines (that will all join to become the same storyline later). The three starting cities are about a 20min trip between each other, and after going to each cities crystal, you can then teleport to any city. Aside from the "storyline," you can go wherever and hang out with anyone doing whatever.

    Step 5: Intro. Press home/start. A menu pops up. You will use this for everything ooc. Haha, pretend you're larping. If you want to break immersion and do something, it will probably be in this menu. Anyways. The menu. Bring it up and pick journal. Then pick Storyline leves. Leves = quests/missions, btw. This is the tutorial leve-line. You want to complete all of these before doing anything else in the game, because it gives you a nice cash reward by the time you finish, amongst trying to teach you about different parts of the game. Anytime you're stuck, you want to check this journal to tell you what to do next for the tutorial.

    Step 6: Tutorial. This tutorial line goes through many aspects. Each town is different, but they're all the same type of quest. First, you learn about the adventurer's hall, which is where you pick up your leves. Then you go to your first camp and learn how to use a leve. You also learn of linkshells and linkpearls (guild system) letting you talk to anyone anywhere. Next you learn of two guilds, a battle guild, and a crafting guild. This teaches you where you can buy some stuff but I think this main point is about where to pick up faction leves way later in game. Next you visit a gathering guild. Here you learn about emotes, then about escort quests. Since I never see any other escorts, I assume this teaches you about gates, which are lesser forms of camps. Next, you are taken to two more crafting/gathering guilds, showing where you can craft things. And that is how the game tries to teach you all about the game, hidden subtlety within a story. So well hidden, you still have no fucking clue what to do when you're done. But hey at least you’re 10k+ richer.

    Step 7: Now what? You got money, spend it on buying more starter weapons/tools to unlock all the classes you want. The 10-15k you get is enough for 5-7 classes. Uh, good luck finding which store sells which starter item though. You can check all the icons on the map for stores, and the orange dots for possibly more stores. Good luck on that. Now that you have the classes you want, what do you want to do? The game is divided up between three things: fighting, gathering, and making. All three and get leves for them.

    Step 8: Leves. You can do 8 battle/regional and 8 local leves every 36 hours, server time. Not you do them and cooldown 36 hours. Battle leves are fighting with weapons and magic. Regional leves are gathering/fishing/mining. Notice how these both yield a lot of items/materials. So when you're done with those 8 leves, which ever you chose, you then do some local leves. These are crafting leves you pick from blacksmith/armorer/weaving/carpentry/etc. Leves are your best way to get experience in both skill level and physical level.

    Step 9: Leveling up. Whatever you have equipped is your class. Each class has a different level, which you must level up separately. Skill level unlocks new skills (most which can be used with other classes), as well as raises your action/whatever point cap (which is the limit of how many skills you can have equipped at once and how many items you can have equipped at once). Everything you do, no matter what class you are, levels up a separate physical level. Physical Level rewards stat points and resistance points. Resistance can raise your resistance to fire/water/lightning stuff like that. I don't really get it. stat points raise the basic stuff like str/agi/dex/mnd/int/pie. Yes you can raise pie. (It's piety, raising magic accuracy, but whatever). Stats can/will-in-the-future? also effect crafting in different ways. Stats can be reset with a cooldown. Reset often and you'll find you can only reset the top 10% of your stat points. Wait a while (a day? a year? i dunno) and maybe resetting will reset 100% of your stat points.

    Step 10: Ok I'm actually doing a leve. I can't do anything. What. Ok, whenever you do a leve, your mini map on the top right (not your giant map that fills the screen) has three things. And orange blinking arrow that leads to a yellow highlighted circle that should contain orange blinking dots. These orange blinking dots are quest objectives spawned JUST FOR YOU. You can't hit other mobs because those are probably someone else's special leve spawns. And no one else can steal your leve spawns. This is why leves are great. Leves also give a lot more exp/whatever than just grinding alone. There is a bug right now, probably from congestion. The server thinks whatever your fighting is reserved for someone else, and so you can't attack it. That sucks. Deal with it ;_;. Try again after a few seconds? Maybe I untarget and retarget and that's my lucky charm for getting it to work again. Hopefully that's fixed soon.

    Step 11: Camps/Gates/Aethercyte. Ok there are aethercyte things. These grant several things. Talking to one forces it to be your home point. No choice. Stop trying to exploit it. Not gonna happen. Talking to one refills your hp/mp. This is on a cooldown timer, maybe 10min. Talking to one adds it to your list of available teleports. Talking to one is how you start a leve. Talking to one is how you can teleport to a gate. What? Gate? Ok on your big map, you see the crystals. That's easy to notice. But you also see blue glowy things. These are gates. Gates provide some crystal functions. Talking to a gate forces it to be your home point. Refills hp/mp on a timer. Does not add to your list of teleports, but unlocks it for a special teleport. Gates can teleport to/from one specific camp, usually the one near it. Some leves are started at gates.

    Step 12: Anima/Teleport/Return. You can have a max of 100 anima. Anima is regenerated once every 4? hours, for a total of 6? anima per day?. You can teleport "instantly" (lag/loading) to any aethercyte crystal to talked to and added to your list. If you're in that country, it's 4 anima per teleport. If you're teleporting out of the country, it's 6 anima. You can use return to return to your home point for 2 anima. You can die and your only option is to return to your home point for 0 anima. Remember, your home point is the last aethercyte/gate you talked to. You can teleport to/from athercyte/gate links for 1 anima.

    Step 13: Fatigue/Durability. Level up one class too much in a short amount of time and you get fatigue. I don't get it. If you see "surplus experience" change to another class that you didn’t get fatigue on and level that up instead. Items lose durability after lots of use and because less effective. Get them repaired. 50% and less gets bad. NPCs can repair to 50% (planned to be changed? or already changed). Use yourself or other players to repair to 100% through a complicated system using lots of different crafting classes for every different item type.

    Step 14: Macros are cool. But I'm getting tired of typing so. <me> targets yourself. <t> is your current target. <st> makes a sub-target which is a purple circle you can use to target something while keeping your current target. /action "skill" "target" is how to use skills (/action Cure <me>, /action "Spirit Dart" <st>). /equip "slot" "item" is how to equip stuff (/equip main "Weathered Cane" or /equip “off hand” “shield name”). /aoe on/off to turn aoe casting on/off.

    Step 15: Active/Passive/MP. In active mode you can use actions and keep any TP you have, and your stamina bar regenerates. In passive mode, you run faster, regen HP, and can use emotes and change equipment/skill bars. MP does not regen. You can go to a crystal/gate to refill HP/MP every ten minutes or so. Thaut and Conj both have separate class skills that restore 50% mp with a 10min cooldown. What I'm about to say didn't work in beta but works now in retail. You can get both class weapons, then hotkey both skills (at 9 and 0 or whatever). When you need mp, clas change to that skill and you can immediately use the mp regen skill. Change back to your regular weapon while the 10min timer is on cooldown. 10 minutes later you can change weapons and the skill can be used again. It's very hard to run out of mana with these two skills available now.

    Step 16: Chatting. /s = say, /sh = shout, /p = party, /l = linkshell, /t first last = tell, /re(something, not reply, repeat?) = reply, space then ctrl+r = reply after using /t first last once, /echo = talk to yourself (useful with /recast macros {recast tells you cooldown time on a skill}). /chatmode s/sh/p/l/t first last = set default chatmode. Space and / opens up a chat line. Enter does shit and makes you fuck up as you type random keys without a chatline open. There is a ???? chat filter you can turn off in configuration. You can use all these chat things in macros to be your own goldseller.

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    NeurotikaNeurotika Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    PikaPuff wrote: »
    Step 14: Macros are cool. But I'm getting tired of typing so. <me> targets yourself. <t> is your current target. <st> makes a sub-target which is a purple circle you can use to target something while keeping your current target. /action "skill" "target" is how to use skills (/action Cure <me>, /action "Spirit Dart" <st>). /equip "slot" "item" is how to equip stuff. /equip main "Weathered Cane" for example.

    Thanks for the write up, good stuff.

    I can't get an offhand item to equip via macro. The lodestone lists the command as /equip off "Bronze Widget", but it never seems to work. Have you had any luck?

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    PikaPuffPikaPuff Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    it is /equip off, but I don't have any shields/crafting to try it out with.

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    AtomBombAtomBomb Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Try:

    /equip "Off Hand" "Bronze Widget"

    That's what I ended up having to do.

    Macro tips that you probably already know:

    Any part of a macro that is multiple words has to be in quotes. Single words do not.
    Capitalization is important.
    If you're changing your job, equip your main hand first.
    If your macro trys to equip something you are already wearing, that step will "fail", but it will just move to the next step. No biggie.

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    AkiraAkira Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Just use /equip sub "offhand name here"
    And on a seperate line from your /equip main if that wasn't already obvious.
    AtomBomb wrote: »
    Akira wrote: »
    Well whoever decides to level Alchemy, I can make Copper Alembics (the main tool) which is a pretty good upgrade from the basic Weathered version. It's not too hard to do especially if you have a Fire Crystal to spare.

    Can you make the weaver copper needle? I was going to buy one off of a bazaar for 1k, but I thought I should see if my gil could go to a guildie.

    That's Blacksmithing not Armorsmithing, though the recipe is low enough I can make it anyway. If you want to wait a couple hours and have some wind shards I can craft it, but probably easier just to buy it there (or ask someone online right now who is focusing on Blacksmithing).

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    PikaPuffPikaPuff Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    /wait 4 is a good amount of time between equipping something and using a skill

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    NovembersChopinNovembersChopin Las VegasRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    For those of you using a controller, is there a easy way to target only the enemy?

    I use F12 to scroll through the PT members but I had a friend who had issues targeting just the mobs with his pad.

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    SigtyrSigtyr Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Game needs an Auction house. Now.

    Trying to sell items is a pain. I've had a bazaar filled with nothing but copper chokers going for 1.5k, 2k for +1. That's a tenth of what NPC's sell it for, and more than half off what other players sell them for.

    Frustrating as hell too, since I want these items to sell to buy myself some new equipment.

    Trying to buy items is a fruitless endeavor as well. You'll have to go through countless random retainers and bazaars until you actually find something you need.

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    funkydue01funkydue01 Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    The system is the worst.

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    ChadVaderChadVader Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    For those of you using a controller, is there a easy way to target only the enemy?

    I use F12 to scroll through the PT members but I had a friend who had issues targeting just the mobs with his pad.

    Create a macro and use /TargetNPC
    It will target the nearest mob in the direction your character is facing, not the direction your screen is facing (which is annoying, but whatever...)

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    TulabelleTulabelle Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    PikaPuff, thank you so much! Having never played FFXI I think this will help me out immensely! I'm stuck at work, but plan on putting in a lot of time tonight and this weekend, these starting points will help a ton!

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    vamenvamen Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    And you can use UP and DOWN to target party members without selecting NPCs.

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    BeltaineBeltaine BOO BOO DOO DE DOORegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Sooo... buddy code?

    Maybe I can get my initial re-roll-itis over with and settle in with a character when the box gets here.

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    EliminationElimination Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I'm really on the fence here. Is this one a lot like FF XI? With tons and tons of grinding/very slow progression, with very little basic quests?

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    SigtyrSigtyr Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Subligar fun!
    Potentially not safe for work.
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    Yeah. You love it.

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    PikaPuffPikaPuff Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    It's just like FFXI, but with the addition of 8 + 8 repeatable, soloable quests every 36 hours.

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    The Dude With HerpesThe Dude With Herpes Lehi, UTRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I'm really on the fence here. Is this one a lot like FF XI? With tons and tons of grinding/very slow progression, with very little basic quests?

    Depends on who you ask.

    Personally, having played quite a bit of XI, I really can't get into XIV. I tried in the beta and I've tried the past couple days with a buddy pass.

    It's just...I dunno. I can see it becoming a decent game in time, but as it stands right now I honestly couldn't recommend it to anyone over other MMO's out there, even over XI.

    Every time I logged into XIV I just found myself wanting to log out. I was probably going into it wrong, hoping it would be an upgraded version of XI. It is clear, in some respects, that's what they were aiming for, but also they changed enough things to make it a fundamentally different feel.

    Whereas in XI, despite being an MMO, I felt that it was a Final Fantasy game, this...just feels generic. It is seriously lacking anything that brings it into the grand spectrum of Final Fantasy aside from a few general relations to XI, which itself was quite a departure.

    That's a purely subjective stance, and I realize that. I certainly wouldn't fault someone for really enjoying themselves with XIV, just like I will defend XI as a fun game to my grave; while being full aware of the fact that the complaints many have about it are perfectly valid.

    It's just not for me.

    I'll give it a go some more during this buddy trial Bri gave me; but as it stands I'll be passing this one up. At least for awhile until the game matures into its own.

    And even then it'll have a lot to compete with for my attention; including even XI.

    But honestly, to go back to your base question:

    Yes, is much like XI with a lot of grinding and very few "quests" in the general MMO sense. But like XI there are story missions and NPC quests that are more RP'ing and less grind hiding like they are in say, WoW. The levequests add in a component that was missing in XI for so long until they introduced Field Manuals; but even in that regard I feel that XI handles the manuals better than XIV handles the levequests and I'm baffled as to why they seemed to have backpeddled on this.

    Anyway, I'm sure the reaction from someone who enjoys the game quite a bit will be much different than my own and you should probably listen to other opinions too before deciding.

    Though, I'd recommend seeing if you can't get a buddy pass from somewhere before shelling out the cash to find out.

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    useruser Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Akira wrote: »
    Well whoever decides to level Alchemy, I can make Copper Alembics (the main tool) which is a pretty good upgrade from the basic Weathered version. It's not too hard to do especially if you have a Fire Crystal to spare.

    I am so going to grind Alchemy to 8ish and then ask you for this. I have a fire crystal on hand!

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    DourinDourin Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    So I went into Gamestop today to preorder my regular edition of the game. I'm not sure what happened, but next thing I knew I was walking out of there with a CE in tow. So, umm... I'll be on and will have my character information shortly.

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    BeltaineBeltaine BOO BOO DOO DE DOORegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Goggles > Poofy Hat :P

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    FeintFeint Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I'm trying really hard to be the resident Weaver of the LS, but christ does it soak up gil something awful.

    Almost rank 10. At 12 or so I can start making the cool hats.

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    DourinDourin Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    So, was there ever discovered a way to speed up this horrible patching process? I'd really rather not wait 9 hours for this game to patch up so I can start playing if I don't have to.

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    Just_Bri_ThanksJust_Bri_Thanks Seething with rage from a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2010
    Pika's post has been put in post number 7. Logging in now.

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    DelphinidaesDelphinidaes FFXIV: Delphi Kisaragi Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Dourin wrote: »
    So, was there ever discovered a way to speed up this horrible patching process? I'd really rather not wait 9 hours for this game to patch up so I can start playing if I don't have to.

    Open your config, note the port being used. change it if you like. Set your router to make sure that port is open. Marvel at normal download speeds.

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    PikaPuffPikaPuff Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Job Breakdown by guilds in what city. For crafting the guilds offer books that improve success chance or something. All guilds offer high level quests (20+) for faction points used to buy neat stuff or something. Arcanists and Musketeers aren't real guilds.

    LL
    Marauders'
    "Musketeers"

    "Arcanists'"
    Fishermen's
    Armorers'
    Culinarian's
    blacksmith's

    Gridania
    Archer's
    Lancer's
    Conjurer's

    Carpenter's
    Bontanist's
    Leatherworker's


    Ul'dah
    Pugilists'
    Gladiators'
    Thaumaturges'

    Goldsmith's
    Miner's
    Weaver's
    Alchemist's

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    Just_Bri_ThanksJust_Bri_Thanks Seething with rage from a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2010
    I am in Ul'dah until I finish verifying lists and then moving to either Grid or Limsa. Post if you need something, so I know which way to run.

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    Klauster FaulkKlauster Faulk Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Long time Lurker of the forums looking to join the linkshell. Currently living in the Ul'dah region.

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    BloodsheedBloodsheed Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I'm hopping in to Ul'dah now, will try and catch you Bri.

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    Just_Bri_ThanksJust_Bri_Thanks Seething with rage from a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2010
    Character names help.

    Edit: I see that the character name is also Klauster Faulk. Good show!

    Edit Edit: Hawt!
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