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that doesn't change what I said, really.
unless you think don knew they were doing that and didn't care. I wasn't 100% sure either way. at first it seemed like they were just being nice but several things that were said seemed like legitimate praise for don's.
unless you think don knew they were doing that and didn't care. I wasn't 100% sure either way. at first it seemed like they were just being nice but several things that were said seemed like legitimate praise for don's.
Ginsberg doesn't seem the type to lie to spare others' feelings, and even he was like "That's... actually good." Even though it seems like kind of a shitty pitch, I think we're meant to believe it's got at least some merit, though not as much as Ginsberg's.
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unless you think don knew they were doing that and didn't care. I wasn't 100% sure either way. at first it seemed like they were just being nice but several things that were said seemed like legitimate praise for don's.
Ginsberg doesn't seem the type to lie to spare others' feelings, and even he was like "That's... actually good." Even though it seems like kind of a shitty pitch, I think we're meant to believe it's got at least some merit, though not as much as Ginsberg's.
exactly.
and while peggy/ginsberg seem confused by the snowball's chance in hell line when don first says it (or at least they don't know where he's going with it), pete picks up on it immediately which I liked.
unless you think don knew they were doing that and didn't care. I wasn't 100% sure either way. at first it seemed like they were just being nice but several things that were said seemed like legitimate praise for don's.
Ginsberg doesn't seem the type to lie to spare others' feelings, and even he was like "That's... actually good." Even though it seems like kind of a shitty pitch, I think we're meant to believe it's got at least some merit, though not as much as Ginsberg's.
exactly.
and while peggy/ginsberg seem confused by the snowball's chance in hell line when don first says it (or at least they don't know where he's going with it), pete picks up on it immediately which I liked.
Having a douchebag like Pete be the guy that gets where you're going doesn't speak well for your idea.
Ginsburg didn't
have to keep doing a bad devil voice to sell his idea.
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pete understood something about the ad. douchebag or not what's the difference.
and I'm not trying to tell you I think don's idea is better but I don't buy that everything everyone said was just to make don feel good. I think it's meant to be a pretty good idea but not the best.
pete understood something about the ad. douchebag or not what's the difference.
and I'm not trying to tell you I think don's idea is better but I don't buy that everything everyone said was just to make don feel good. I think it's meant to be a pretty good idea but not the best.
No one said it was a bad idea. But it's also clearly supposed to be the inferior one of the two.
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I thought they were both pretty mediocre, but Ginsberg's definitely had the edge.
But hey, they sold the client, and that's what matters, right?
Also: This season is solidifying Bert Cooper as my favorite character on this show.
"Jane and I are getting a divorce!"
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-You mean "Hep"
-Betty never fails to be a petulant child. Sally really has received a top notch education on how to manipulate people.
-While the devil idea has merit, at its inception even Don was surprised by how awful it was.
-Pete's daydream cracked me up. Of course he'd fantasize about something so contrived.
-Devils seemed to get around the episode. There were a few next to cake and deserts in the Weight Watchers meeting.
-You mean "Hep"
-Betty never fails to be a petulant child. Sally really has received a top notch education on how to manipulate people.
-While the devil idea has merit, at its inception even Don was surprised by how awful it was.
-Pete's daydream cracked me up. Of course he'd fantasize about something so contrived.
-Devils seemed to get around the episode. There were a few next to cake and deserts in the Weight Watchers meeting.
Pete's
daydream was hilarious. First it's the typical naked woman in a fur coat coming to work, then she speaks: "I read about you in the New Yorker." He's so full of himself it's insane.
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-You mean "Hep"
-Betty never fails to be a petulant child. Sally really has received a top notch education on how to manipulate people.
-While the devil idea has merit, at its inception even Don was surprised by how awful it was.
-Pete's daydream cracked me up. Of course he'd fantasize about something so contrived.
-Devils seemed to get around the episode. There were a few next to cake and deserts in the Weight Watchers meeting.
Pete's
daydream was hilarious. First it's the typical naked woman in a fur coat coming to work, then she speaks: "I read about you in the New Yorker." He's so full of himself it's insane.
That's probably why he was so upset about SCDP being left out of the article. It was realizing this thing he fantasized about, however unlikely, wouldn't happen
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-You mean "Hep"
-Betty never fails to be a petulant child. Sally really has received a top notch education on how to manipulate people.
-While the devil idea has merit, at its inception even Don was surprised by how awful it was.
-Pete's daydream cracked me up. Of course he'd fantasize about something so contrived.
-Devils seemed to get around the episode. There were a few next to cake and deserts in the Weight Watchers meeting.
Pete's
daydream was hilarious. First it's the typical naked woman in a fur coat coming to work, then she speaks: "I read about you in the New Yorker." He's so full of himself it's insane.
Hahaha, yeah, that was hilarious. Such a Pete thing to do. I love that even Cooper is conspiring against him now.
Well, I mean, I don't hate Pete. I don't want him to die or anything. But he's just such a twerp, it's awesome to see him frustrated.
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-You mean "Hep"
-Betty never fails to be a petulant child. Sally really has received a top notch education on how to manipulate people.
-While the devil idea has merit, at its inception even Don was surprised by how awful it was.
-Pete's daydream cracked me up. Of course he'd fantasize about something so contrived.
-Devils seemed to get around the episode. There were a few next to cake and deserts in the Weight Watchers meeting.
Pete's
daydream was hilarious. First it's the typical naked woman in a fur coat coming to work, then she speaks: "I read about you in the New Yorker." He's so full of himself it's insane.
Hahaha, yeah, that was hilarious. Such a Pete thing to do. I love that even Cooper is conspiring against him now.
Well, I mean, I don't hate Pete. I don't want him to die or anything. But he's just such a twerp, it's awesome to see him frustrated.
See, I'm completely the opposite- more and more I think that Pete is probably the character I'm rooting for the most. Don, while being the main character, will for all intents and purposes, forever be a competent, square-jawed guy that just deals with whatever he has available. He's certainly gone through some changes and altered his behavior- but he's wanting about very little. He's more about maintaining what he has. Don fits in with the Coopers and Rogers perfectly fine, and at least projects the image of being comfortable in any situation.
Peggy undergoes multiple, radical transformation throughout the series, and has shown that she's adaptable to an almost uncanny degree. She also is ambitious, but at the same time has managed to accomplish a lot of her goals. She inherits a lot of Don's "fake it 'til you make it" attitude, and she uses that tool well, while supplementing it with actual hard work (I believe in season 2, they talk about how she checks out lumps of books at the library, clearly her trying to become better/smarter at her then recently acquired job).
Pete...well, Pete's a straight up loser. He's a downwardly mobile manchild, and is reliable for cringe-worthy moments with how he embarrassingly bumbles through every situation he encounters- almost too self-absorbed to really grasp how to change or reframe, but not enough to be completely self confident. So really, more than any other character, he seems to be the one that has unrealistic, unattainable goals (be richer, better, and more masculine than his father, Ken, and Don, respectively) and constantly fails when he tries. He's a sympathetic fool, one that could be content if either stopped trying to be what he isn't, or really began to change.
Also, I'm kind of curious. What's the general spoiler policy in this thread? The GoT thread has me wondering/double checking.
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-You mean "Hep"
-Betty never fails to be a petulant child. Sally really has received a top notch education on how to manipulate people.
-While the devil idea has merit, at its inception even Don was surprised by how awful it was.
-Pete's daydream cracked me up. Of course he'd fantasize about something so contrived.
-Devils seemed to get around the episode. There were a few next to cake and deserts in the Weight Watchers meeting.
Pete's
daydream was hilarious. First it's the typical naked woman in a fur coat coming to work, then she speaks: "I read about you in the New Yorker." He's so full of himself it's insane.
Hahaha, yeah, that was hilarious. Such a Pete thing to do. I love that even Cooper is conspiring against him now.
Well, I mean, I don't hate Pete. I don't want him to die or anything. But he's just such a twerp, it's awesome to see him frustrated.
See, I'm completely the opposite- more and more I think that Pete is probably the character I'm rooting for the most. Don, while being the main character, will for all intents and purposes, forever be a competent, square-jawed guy that just deals with whatever he has available. He's certainly gone through some changes and altered his behavior- but he's wanting about very little. He's more about maintaining what he has. Don fits in with the Coopers and Rogers perfectly fine, and at least projects the image of being comfortable in any situation.
Peggy undergoes multiple, radical transformation throughout the series, and has shown that she's adaptable to an almost uncanny degree. She also is ambitious, but at the same time has managed to accomplish a lot of her goals. She inherits a lot of Don's "fake it 'til you make it" attitude, and she uses that tool well, while supplementing it with actual hard work (I believe in season 2, they talk about how she checks out lumps of books at the library, clearly her trying to become better/smarter at her then recently acquired job).
Pete...well, Pete's a straight up loser. He's a downwardly mobile manchild, and is reliable for cringe-worthy moments with how he embarrassingly bumbles through every situation he encounters- almost too self-absorbed to really grasp how to change or reframe, but not enough to be completely self confident. So really, more than any other character, he seems to be the one that has unrealistic, unattainable goals (be richer, better, and more masculine than his father, Ken, and Don, respectively) and constantly fails when he tries. He's a sympathetic fool, one that could be content if either stopped trying to be what he isn't, or really began to change.
Also, I'm kind of curious. What's the general spoiler policy in this thread? The GoT thread has me wondering/double checking.
As far as I know, there is no spoiler policy. Just spoil stuff from the most recent episodes, I guess.
I agree with all of that. I have great sympathy for Pete, but at the same time he's just so unlikable. But in a lovable way.
I don't know.
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-You mean "Hep"
-Betty never fails to be a petulant child. Sally really has received a top notch education on how to manipulate people.
-While the devil idea has merit, at its inception even Don was surprised by how awful it was.
-Pete's daydream cracked me up. Of course he'd fantasize about something so contrived.
-Devils seemed to get around the episode. There were a few next to cake and deserts in the Weight Watchers meeting.
Pete's
daydream was hilarious. First it's the typical naked woman in a fur coat coming to work, then she speaks: "I read about you in the New Yorker." He's so full of himself it's insane.
Hahaha, yeah, that was hilarious. Such a Pete thing to do. I love that even Cooper is conspiring against him now.
Well, I mean, I don't hate Pete. I don't want him to die or anything. But he's just such a twerp, it's awesome to see him frustrated.
See, I'm completely the opposite- more and more I think that Pete is probably the character I'm rooting for the most. Don, while being the main character, will for all intents and purposes, forever be a competent, square-jawed guy that just deals with whatever he has available. He's certainly gone through some changes and altered his behavior- but he's wanting about very little. He's more about maintaining what he has. Don fits in with the Coopers and Rogers perfectly fine, and at least projects the image of being comfortable in any situation.
Peggy undergoes multiple, radical transformation throughout the series, and has shown that she's adaptable to an almost uncanny degree. She also is ambitious, but at the same time has managed to accomplish a lot of her goals. She inherits a lot of Don's "fake it 'til you make it" attitude, and she uses that tool well, while supplementing it with actual hard work (I believe in season 2, they talk about how she checks out lumps of books at the library, clearly her trying to become better/smarter at her then recently acquired job).
Pete...well, Pete's a straight up loser. He's a downwardly mobile manchild, and is reliable for cringe-worthy moments with how he embarrassingly bumbles through every situation he encounters- almost too self-absorbed to really grasp how to change or reframe, but not enough to be completely self confident. So really, more than any other character, he seems to be the one that has unrealistic, unattainable goals (be richer, better, and more masculine than his father, Ken, and Don, respectively) and constantly fails when he tries. He's a sympathetic fool, one that could be content if either stopped trying to be what he isn't, or really began to change.
Also, I'm kind of curious. What's the general spoiler policy in this thread? The GoT thread has me wondering/double checking.
As far as I know, there is no spoiler policy. Just spoil stuff from the most recent episodes, I guess.
I agree with all of that. I have great sympathy for Pete, but at the same time he's just so unlikable. But in a lovable way.
I don't know.
I've always liked Pete the most and I don't know why. I even watched "Masterminds" all the way through a couple months ago when it showed up on TV. That should tell you something
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Well that was a thing. Paul certainly...changed. And I felt bad for him that they all hated his Star Trek script, yet it was essentially "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield."
Wonder what's gonna happen with Lane...he's making some questionable decisions.
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Who played Mother Lakshmi? All I could think of was Juliette Lewis for some reason
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Lane and Don are buddies, so he should have gone to him about it in the first place. Worst case scenario now is he still goes to him and tells him what he did, hopefully Don is ok with it and they move on.
8 grand is nothing for Don or Roger, anyway. If Lane ends up off the show for this that would be really really stupid, would feel like they made up the side plot because Jared Harris didn't want to be on the show anymore.
I think the bonuses are the bigger deal (bonuses they couldn't actually afford), and getting more credit for those at the bank by taking a chance and lying to them (and having it blow up in Mohawk pulling funding).
Lane and Don are buddies, so he should have gone to him about it in the first place. Worst case scenario now is he still goes to him and tells him what he did, hopefully Don is ok with it and they move on.
Worse case scenario is that he keeps stealing to cover up his stealing, meaning that the company has a hole in its accounts that causes it to have serious problems. Lane gets fired and loses his visa, causing him to have to go back to England where the Inland Revenue want a serious word with him.
Rest assured, it's not plain. It's got a stick of butter per plate melted into it. Old timey yum!
This was definitely a bridge/setup episode, but it is forgiven for the Don/Joan scenes (both in the bar and at Jaguar).
I can't believe there are only 3 episodes left in the season.
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I've always found it useful to have an inflation calculator up while I watch the show, as there's really not a natural gut-punch when you hear about someone looking for $7,500.
However, in 1966(?), that carries the weight right around $50,000.
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I've always found it useful to have an inflation calculator up while I watch the show, as there's really not a natural gut-punch when you hear about someone looking for $7,500.
However, in 1966(?), that carries the weight right around $50,000.
I didn't know the relative shit he was in, until they said the nicest Jaguar was only $6,500. That cleared it up
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I've always found it useful to have an inflation calculator up while I watch the show, as there's really not a natural gut-punch when you hear about someone looking for $7,500.
However, in 1966(?), that carries the weight right around $50,000.
I didn't know the relative shit he was in, until they said the nicest Jaguar was only $6,500. That cleared it up
It also illuminates why ol Grandpa Gene was so upset over who stole his $35. I'd be ticked too if ~$240 went missing.
(And Roger gave Ginsberg the equivalent of $1500 to do the wine work under the table).
Also, regarding the whole Paul thing: if this was just a way to wrap up his storyline in the series, then I guarantee Sal comes back in some way in relation to the upcoming Stonewall riots.
I've always found it useful to have an inflation calculator up while I watch the show, as there's really not a natural gut-punch when you hear about someone looking for $7,500.
However, in 1966(?), that carries the weight right around $50,000.
I didn't know the relative shit he was in, until they said the nicest Jaguar was only $6,500. That cleared it up
It also illuminates why ol Grandpa Gene was so upset over who stole his $35. I'd be ticked too if ~$240 went missing.
(And Roger gave Ginsberg the equivalent of $1500 to do the wine work under the table).
Damn, Roger really does need to stop carrying around so much cash.
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exactly.
Having a douchebag like Pete be the guy that gets where you're going doesn't speak well for your idea.
Ginsburg didn't
No one said it was a bad idea. But it's also clearly supposed to be the inferior one of the two.
definitely inferior
:^:
But hey, they sold the client, and that's what matters, right?
Also: This season is solidifying Bert Cooper as my favorite character on this show.
"Jane and I are getting a divorce!"
"Already?"
-Betty never fails to be a petulant child. Sally really has received a top notch education on how to manipulate people.
-While the devil idea has merit, at its inception even Don was surprised by how awful it was.
-Pete's daydream cracked me up. Of course he'd fantasize about something so contrived.
-Devils seemed to get around the episode. There were a few next to cake and deserts in the Weight Watchers meeting.
Pete's
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Well, I mean, I don't hate Pete. I don't want him to die or anything. But he's just such a twerp, it's awesome to see him frustrated.
Peggy undergoes multiple, radical transformation throughout the series, and has shown that she's adaptable to an almost uncanny degree. She also is ambitious, but at the same time has managed to accomplish a lot of her goals. She inherits a lot of Don's "fake it 'til you make it" attitude, and she uses that tool well, while supplementing it with actual hard work (I believe in season 2, they talk about how she checks out lumps of books at the library, clearly her trying to become better/smarter at her then recently acquired job).
Pete...well, Pete's a straight up loser. He's a downwardly mobile manchild, and is reliable for cringe-worthy moments with how he embarrassingly bumbles through every situation he encounters- almost too self-absorbed to really grasp how to change or reframe, but not enough to be completely self confident. So really, more than any other character, he seems to be the one that has unrealistic, unattainable goals (be richer, better, and more masculine than his father, Ken, and Don, respectively) and constantly fails when he tries. He's a sympathetic fool, one that could be content if either stopped trying to be what he isn't, or really began to change.
Also, I'm kind of curious. What's the general spoiler policy in this thread? The GoT thread has me wondering/double checking.
As far as I know, there is no spoiler policy. Just spoil stuff from the most recent episodes, I guess.
I don't know.
I've always liked Pete the most and I don't know why. I even watched "Masterminds" all the way through a couple months ago when it showed up on TV. That should tell you something
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... I should go
Wonder what's gonna happen with Lane...he's making some questionable decisions.
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8 grand is nothing for Don or Roger, anyway. If Lane ends up off the show for this that would be really really stupid, would feel like they made up the side plot because Jared Harris didn't want to be on the show anymore.
Worse case scenario is that he keeps stealing to cover up his stealing, meaning that the company has a hole in its accounts that causes it to have serious problems. Lane gets fired and loses his visa, causing him to have to go back to England where the Inland Revenue want a serious word with him.
That bothered me so much
This was definitely a bridge/setup episode, but it is forgiven for the Don/Joan scenes (both in the bar and at Jaguar).
I can't believe there are only 3 episodes left in the season.
However, in 1966(?), that carries the weight right around $50,000.
I didn't know the relative shit he was in, until they said the nicest Jaguar was only $6,500. That cleared it up
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It also illuminates why ol Grandpa Gene was so upset over who stole his $35. I'd be ticked too if ~$240 went missing.
(And Roger gave Ginsberg the equivalent of $1500 to do the wine work under the table).
Including Game of Thrones and Boardwalk Empire.
Also: D'awww, Harry. You're alright. Can't wait to see Kinsey pop up again the next time there's an episode in California.
Here name is Anna Wood. I haven't seen her in anything else, and yes, she looks like Juliette Lewis. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3580571/
Damn, Roger really does need to stop carrying around so much cash.
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Owed it in taxes to the British govt. Apparently he'd be sent to jail if he didn't pay immediately
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He owed it to the government. They never said what for, but I'd guess back taxes.