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    emnmnmeemnmnme Registered User regular
    edited September 2012
    Exo Squad. If I posted pictures of all the characters and their exosuits from Exo Squad, you'd agree with me that something can look completely ridiculous and completely cool at the same time.

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    NerdgasmicNerdgasmic __BANNED USERS regular
    nothing of significance came out of the 1980s

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    BogartBogart Streetwise Hercules Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    emnmnme wrote: »
    Exo Squad. If I posted pictures of all the characters and their exosuits from Exo Squad, you'd agree with me that something can look completely ridiculous and completely cool at the same time.

    I just GIS'd Exo Squad. Ick.

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    BogartBogart Streetwise Hercules Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    Nerdgasmic wrote: »
    nothing of significance came out of the 1980s

    Choleric rage has choked my response.

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    surrealitychecksurrealitycheck lonely, but not unloved dreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered User regular
    i was born in the 1980s, thus providing disproof by counterexample

    deal w/ it

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    emnmnmeemnmnme Registered User regular
    Bogart wrote: »
    emnmnme wrote: »
    Exo Squad. If I posted pictures of all the characters and their exosuits from Exo Squad, you'd agree with me that something can look completely ridiculous and completely cool at the same time.

    I just GIS'd Exo Squad. Ick.

    ...
    ...
    ... get off my internet.

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    emnmnmeemnmnme Registered User regular
    Also, the latest PA comic is p. totes adorbz.

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    Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    i never really understood robocop's appeal

    like the video of that drug bust shootout, there's this heroic music playing, but he's not doing anything impressive or noteworthy

    he's immune to bullets and he's shooting people who can't hurt him

    i mean obviously they should run, or shoot at his face, but action movies have always been dumb about that. no, the problem is that he's a fucking murder robot being glorified even though he could easily walk up to people and incapacitate them peacefully, but instead he's slaughtering these various ethnic criminals. robocop is basically a fucked up horror movie.

    and it's not really very exciting or cool that he just slowly walks around and awkwardly aims his gun while being invincible

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    ThomamelasThomamelas Only one man can kill this many Russians. Bring his guitar to me! Registered User regular
    And here we thought the Alamo Drafthouse was zealous about rooting out cell phone use in theaters. But even their strongly worded PSAs and strict ushers seem downright passive compared to what one theater in London’s Leicester Square is doing.

    The Prince Charles Cinema is said to be employing volunteer “ninjas” to regulate good behavior among the audience. The term “ninja” is being used loosely here — they’re really more like glorified ushers in black skintight bodysuits — but whatever you want to call them, it’s certainly an interesting way to keep the peace. More afer the jump.

    The so-called ninjas are ordinary cinephiles who agree to “guard” screenings in exchange for free admission. When they spot a patron talking, texting, throwing popcorn, kicking seats, or otherwise engaging in rude behavior, they swoop down to give the jerk in question a talking-to.l

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    surrealitychecksurrealitycheck lonely, but not unloved dreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered User regular
    lol

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    TavTav Irish Minister for DefenceRegistered User regular
    emnmnme wrote: »
    Also, the latest PA comic is p. totes adorbz.

    awwwwwwwwwwww

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    JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    robocop is a horror movie to some extent

    it's also a revenge movie, and part of what revenge movies do is to push boundaries and make you feel uncomfortable

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    WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    @Sarksus

    If you ask me

    I think it was the Shrike who filled your house with chickens

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    surrealitychecksurrealitycheck lonely, but not unloved dreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered User regular
    Jacobkosh wrote: »
    robocop is a horror movie to some extent

    it's also a revenge movie, and part of what revenge movies do is to push boundaries and make you feel uncomfortable

    so jacob wanna flirt on gtalk

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    mrflippymrflippy Registered User regular
    One of my gf's friends is over and was helping with dishes. She put a pile of chopsticks off to the side and I asked her if she had washed them yet or not. She replied, "I didn't know what those were, so I just put them over there."

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    Regina FongRegina Fong Allons-y, Alonso Registered User regular
    Anyone who thought Robocop was just a straight up action movie with Robocop as the good guy and drug dealer bad guys either was high or fell asleep.

    The movie has a great deal of social commentary on violence, commercialism, and the capitalization of crime and the police. It's impossible to not notice these things when you watch the film. Even as a kid I understood that the film was talking about our society and not just trying to entertain me with explosions.

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    emnmnmeemnmnme Registered User regular
    I was looking for something snarky to smack EM with but I found this instead.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kd5fM1mzIM&feature=related

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    JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    edited September 2012
    yeah I mean that shootout happens halfway into the movie. in another film it would be the heroic climax. instead it is actually the end of act 2, because killing all those guys is not the solution to the problem

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    SarksusSarksus ATTACK AND DETHRONE GODRegistered User regular
    Winky wrote: »
    @Sarksus

    If you ask me

    I think it was the Shrike who filled your house with chickens

    OR IT WAS YOU

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    ThomamelasThomamelas Only one man can kill this many Russians. Bring his guitar to me! Registered User regular
    i never really understood robocop's appeal

    like the video of that drug bust shootout, there's this heroic music playing, but he's not doing anything impressive or noteworthy

    he's immune to bullets and he's shooting people who can't hurt him

    i mean obviously they should run, or shoot at his face, but action movies have always been dumb about that. no, the problem is that he's a fucking murder robot being glorified even though he could easily walk up to people and incapacitate them peacefully, but instead he's slaughtering these various ethnic criminals. robocop is basically a fucked up horror movie.

    and it's not really very exciting or cool that he just slowly walks around and awkwardly aims his gun while being invincible

    There is very much a body horror element to Robocop. The idea of waking up in a body that isn't yours and isn't fully under your control. Not to mention the graphic nature of his death and the torture elements to it.

    You have the Jesus allegory on top of it.

    And then there is the discussion of self and what is it that defines the self? How much of it is preserved in a situation like that? How much of Murphy is Murphy?

    And last but not least, if you aren't talking about big game or video games then suggesting head shots is sheer foolishness. The head is a smaller target that tends to move a lot. Aiming for it in a stressful situation is a bad idea.

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    Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    Thomamelas wrote: »
    i never really understood robocop's appeal

    like the video of that drug bust shootout, there's this heroic music playing, but he's not doing anything impressive or noteworthy

    he's immune to bullets and he's shooting people who can't hurt him

    i mean obviously they should run, or shoot at his face, but action movies have always been dumb about that. no, the problem is that he's a fucking murder robot being glorified even though he could easily walk up to people and incapacitate them peacefully, but instead he's slaughtering these various ethnic criminals. robocop is basically a fucked up horror movie.

    and it's not really very exciting or cool that he just slowly walks around and awkwardly aims his gun while being invincible

    There is very much a body horror element to Robocop. The idea of waking up in a body that isn't yours and isn't fully under your control. Not to mention the graphic nature of his death and the torture elements to it.

    You have the Jesus allegory on top of it.

    And then there is the discussion of self and what is it that defines the self? How much of it is preserved in a situation like that? How much of Murphy is Murphy?

    And last but not least, if you aren't talking about big game or video games then suggesting head shots is sheer foolishness. The head is a smaller target that tends to move a lot. Aiming for it in a stressful situation is a bad idea.

    how is it a bad idea when it's literally the only part of him that is vulnerable? it's the only target. your choices are try for the tough shot or run away.

    but that's not a symptom of robocop so much as any action movie ever. stupid/inaccurate minions get a big discount when you buy in bulk at Villain Warehouse.

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    nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    Keep in mind robocop is also something of a deconstruction of the action genre.

    It's ridiculous kinda on purpose.

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    surrealitychecksurrealitycheck lonely, but not unloved dreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered User regular
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    Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited September 2012
    Anyone who thought Robocop was just a straight up action movie with Robocop as the good guy and drug dealer bad guys either was high or fell asleep.

    The movie has a great deal of social commentary on violence, commercialism, and the capitalization of crime and the police. It's impossible to not notice these things when you watch the film. Even as a kid I understood that the film was talking about our society and not just trying to entertain me with explosions.

    If you were young when Robocop came out, it would be easy to mix it up with the sequels, video games, and other iterations that lacked the meaning of the original. For the longest time my opinion of Robocop was colored mostly by a tv series.

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    ThomamelasThomamelas Only one man can kill this many Russians. Bring his guitar to me! Registered User regular
    Thomamelas wrote: »
    i never really understood robocop's appeal

    like the video of that drug bust shootout, there's this heroic music playing, but he's not doing anything impressive or noteworthy

    he's immune to bullets and he's shooting people who can't hurt him

    i mean obviously they should run, or shoot at his face, but action movies have always been dumb about that. no, the problem is that he's a fucking murder robot being glorified even though he could easily walk up to people and incapacitate them peacefully, but instead he's slaughtering these various ethnic criminals. robocop is basically a fucked up horror movie.

    and it's not really very exciting or cool that he just slowly walks around and awkwardly aims his gun while being invincible

    There is very much a body horror element to Robocop. The idea of waking up in a body that isn't yours and isn't fully under your control. Not to mention the graphic nature of his death and the torture elements to it.

    You have the Jesus allegory on top of it.

    And then there is the discussion of self and what is it that defines the self? How much of it is preserved in a situation like that? How much of Murphy is Murphy?

    And last but not least, if you aren't talking about big game or video games then suggesting head shots is sheer foolishness. The head is a smaller target that tends to move a lot. Aiming for it in a stressful situation is a bad idea.

    how is it a bad idea when it's literally the only part of him that is vulnerable? it's the only target. your choices are try for the tough shot or run away.

    but that's not a symptom of robocop so much as any action movie ever. stupid/inaccurate minions get a big discount when you buy in bulk at Villain Warehouse.

    No, it's that going for head shots is retarded shit that gamers learn. It's a bad idea because even hitting the bulletproof parts of him might get lucky. Aiming for the head is a very good way to just miss completely. The idea that someone will pull off an aimed head shot in a stressful shooting situation is the kind of retarded shit that you get from gamers who think it's as easy to do in the real world as it is in a video game.

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    Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    Keep in mind robocop is also something of a deconstruction of the action genre.

    It's ridiculous kinda on purpose.

    is it? i honestly have no idea. i don't even remember how old i was when i watched it.

    i mean, if the whole point is that robocop makes explicit the silly invincibility of the hero and sort of drains the heroism and excitement out of stupid action scenes, then that's excellent

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    emnmnmeemnmnme Registered User regular
    I remember a scene in Goldeneye where James Bond is fleeing the Russian Ministry of Defense's holding cell. He climbs up to the catwalks with Natalya as their chased by a half-dozen Russian guards armed with AK-47s. None of these guards hit either one but they manage to damage the catwalk so precisely, Natalya falls through the floor and into General Ouromov's waiting arms.

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    surrealitychecksurrealitycheck lonely, but not unloved dreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered User regular
    itt we learn thom cant do headshots irl

    THE SHAME

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    JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    anyway, to answer EM's question, robocop's appeal is that it is a story of a person who is really brutally dehumanized both by urban violence and by crony capitalism who gets an opportunity for revenge and a chance to regain some of himself

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    MentalExerciseMentalExercise Indefenestrable Registered User regular
    Guys.

    Guys!

    GUYS!!

    Look at this!
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    My son got to push the president around on a toy car!

    "More fish for Kunta!"

    --LeVar Burton
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    Nova_CNova_C I have the need The need for speedRegistered User regular
    Paul Verhoeven did the same thing with Starship Troopers. It was amazing watching people Not Get It(tm).

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    Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    Keep in mind robocop is also something of a deconstruction of the action genre.

    It's ridiculous kinda on purpose.

    is it? i honestly have no idea. i don't even remember how old i was when i watched it.

    i mean, if the whole point is that robocop makes explicit the silly invincibility of the hero and sort of drains the heroism and excitement out of stupid action scenes, then that's excellent

    It was directed by the guy who did Starship Troopers.

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    OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User, Moderator mod
    i think if i were facing an indestructible robot man with impenetrable armor, i'd shoot for the face or run after seeing dozens of rounds bounce harmlessly off his form

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    Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    Nova_C wrote: »
    Paul Verhoeven did the same thing with Starship Troopers. It was amazing watching people Not Get It(tm).

    i only saw Starship Troopers when I was in my early teens and I thought it was completely earnest silly action movie stuff. It was only much later that I heard it could be seen in a different light. I think it's close enough to most of its contemporary sci fi action movies that it's easy to take it at face value.

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    JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    starship troopers is a much more one-note movie, though. it's basically all lulz all the time. nobody in it acts like real human beings and you're not meant to actually feel anything for them.

    robocop frames its satire in the context of an actual story about a person you want to see succeed against the odds

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    surrealitychecksurrealitycheck lonely, but not unloved dreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered User regular
    and besides its not like these dudes are trained army dudes who have been taught to shoot centre mass fuck knows what they might do

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    NerdgasmicNerdgasmic __BANNED USERS regular
    fight club

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    Nova_CNova_C I have the need The need for speedRegistered User regular
    Jacobkosh wrote: »
    starship troopers is a much more one-note movie, though. it's basically all lulz all the time. nobody in it acts like real human beings and you're not meant to actually feel anything for them.

    robocop frames its satire in the context of an actual story about a person you want to see succeed against the odds

    Yes. It is a lot more ridiculous because the entire thing is presented as a propaganda piece.

    I haven't seen Robocop in years. I should pick it up on blu-ray.

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    Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    I should watch starship troopers again. I remember seeing athletes doing crazy backflips and thinking "oh clearly they're genetically enhanced, that makes sense."

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    emnmnmeemnmnme Registered User regular
    Organichu wrote: »
    i think if i were facing an indestructible robot man with impenetrable armor, i'd shoot for the face or run after seeing dozens of rounds bounce harmlessly off his form

    I would drop my weapon and surrender.

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