We could set up day cares for unemployed people who don't have kids to work for... watching the kids of unemployed people who do have them... making it easier to find and do work.
And why not just pray to Moscow five times a day while you're at it, commie?
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CindersWhose sails were black when it was windyRegistered Userregular
Put another chalk mark on the wall as DM in my Call of Cthulhu game tonight. The guy who saw his character cut to ribbons last week by a vengeful cultist saw his new investigator driven insane. Tip: when told by the DM that the many, many paintings on the wall all depict strange, terrifying, disturbing images that threaten to unbalance your mind, don't look at eight of them. Especially not with a SAN of 30.
I am currently out getting coffee and being sociable (except also browsing the forums, bah)
Girl at another table is CLEARLY flirting with the guy she is here with
He appears to be clueless
Write a story for your dorfs. It is law.
So Ashley, she's a bit shy, bit socially awkward, maybe a bit uptight even, but girl knows how to flirt.
Derrick, meanwhile, is unfortunately just as shy and socially awkward and therefore has NO idea what's going on.
All the lip-biting and hair-twirling and nervous giggling in the world won't save these star-crossed potential lovers.
Maybe Derrick realizes she's flirting, but isn't interested. He's not all that shy and socially awkward, Ashley is just putting him in a bad position because he doesn't want to be with her but he doesn't want to hurt her either. He'll tell her when he gets a chance, but he feels that the middle of a coffee shop is not the place to do it.
But Ashley's pretty cute. Derrick could do worse!
I am not projecting my own romantic issues on them at all dammit!
Ashley's pretty cute, but there's more to life than appearance. Ashley's a great girl and Derrick really likes her, but he thinks of her only as a friend. He knows that in the long run, a relationship wouldn't work out.
But how does Derrick know unless he gives Ashley a chance? Maybe he's missing out on something amazing! She values their friendship too but really thinks they could be more!
... Still not projecting.
You projecting harder than your 3rd grade teacher's projector.
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CindersWhose sails were black when it was windyRegistered Userregular
I believe it's predominately a lack of demand holding down employment and heavy-handed fiscal policy by the federal government (by such means as infrastructure investment and public works) would go a long way to boosting demand, and thus restoring the ability (read: willingness) of private entities to hire.
Ah, right, that makes sense... But wouldn't that disproportionately affect the construction sector without actually creating that many more jobs in other sectors?
The infrastructure part would, yeah.
But there are also other things we could do, like administrative work. We could nationalize medical records, which would require databasing, but would not require a permanently large labor force.
Won't that just make temporary jobs, though? I get that gov't spending on infrastructure leads to some jobs, and more consumption, but it seems very... short-term and temporary to me. I mean, better than nothing, of course, but how to fix the long-term is my question here.
Well, the underlying idea is that it -is- short-term and temporary.
The goal is simply to get people employed so they can spend money, not necessarily to keep them employed. The idea is that having temporary work keeps the economy growing, and thus opens up private sector job opportunities.
Though, at the same point, we could hire back all the federal and state workers we've laid off in misguided cost-cutting measures to permanent positions. I think the number there is something like 700,000, which is a large chunk of the non-discouraged unemployed.
I believe it's predominately a lack of demand holding down employment and heavy-handed fiscal policy by the federal government (by such means as infrastructure investment and public works) would go a long way to boosting demand, and thus restoring the ability (read: willingness) of private entities to hire.
Ah, right, that makes sense... But wouldn't that disproportionately affect the construction sector without actually creating that many more jobs in other sectors?
It works, though. Mainly by giving those construction workers money to spend (this should be hundreds of thousands of people ideally), boosting economic demand across the board and forcing other sectors to hire in order to support the increased demand.
I don't know a lot of the intricacies behind it but it's why the 50s and all of its Super-Projects basically worked.
Put another chalk mark on the wall as DM in my Call of Cthulhu game tonight. The guy who saw his character cut to ribbons last week by a vengeful cultist saw his new investigator driven insane. Tip: when told by the DM that the many, many paintings on the wall all depict strange, terrifying, disturbing images that threaten to unbalance your mind, don't look at eight of them. Especially not with a SAN of 30.
That last panel is what, in the darkest corner of his mind, every DM aspires to achieve.
Won't that just make temporary jobs, though? I get that gov't spending on infrastructure leads to some jobs, and more consumption, but it seems very... short-term and temporary to me. I mean, better than nothing, of course, but how to fix the long-term is my question here.
as short term fixes go, it's a pretty good one
the US has some major infrastructure shit that needs to get taken care of
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ChanusHarbinger of the Spicy Rooster ApocalypseThe Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered Userregular
We could set up day cares for unemployed people who don't have kids to work for... watching the kids of unemployed people who do have them... making it easier to find and do work.
And why not just pray to Moscow five times a day while you're at it, commie?
Oh, I do. :P
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ChanusHarbinger of the Spicy Rooster ApocalypseThe Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered Userregular
Not really... communism is stupid because humans make it so.
things are finally working out like I hoped they would, don't have to do any more ridiculous red tape, I might even get my bachelors before age 30 putting me only at marginal scrub teir status
all according to keikeku
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Aight, I think I understand my own position better now. Short term employment in infrastructure ==> More consumption ==> More jobs in the private sector... But won't the private sector jobs dry up at the same time as the infrastructure jobs? i mean, you'll have people laid off and consuming less, no?
I believe it's predominately a lack of demand holding down employment and heavy-handed fiscal policy by the federal government (by such means as infrastructure investment and public works) would go a long way to boosting demand, and thus restoring the ability (read: willingness) of private entities to hire.
Ah, right, that makes sense... But wouldn't that disproportionately affect the construction sector without actually creating that many more jobs in other sectors?
The infrastructure part would, yeah.
But there are also other things we could do, like administrative work. We could nationalize medical records, which would require databasing, but would not require a permanently large labor force.
Won't that just make temporary jobs, though? I get that gov't spending on infrastructure leads to some jobs, and more consumption, but it seems very... short-term and temporary to me. I mean, better than nothing, of course, but how to fix the long-term is my question here.
Depends on how much you believe in the Keynesian multiplier.
Basically, those construction companies go and spend their money, some of it locally on shops and grocers and mechanics and so forth, some of it by importing in goods from other places. Those grocers and mechanics and shops then spend their money, which stimulates more business. In other words, each $1 spent circulates in the economy, causing more than $1 worth of demand overall.
This is definitely a thing that happens, though as far as I can tell, nobody can decide exactly how much it happens.
every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
things are finally working out like I hoped they would, don't have to do any more ridiculous red tape, I might even get my bachelors before age 30 putting me only at marginal scrub teir status
all according to keikeku
Having a degree at or before 30 puts you way above scrub tier. You are probably gold tier at that point. Silver tier is assistant manager at McDonalds and bronze tier is Wal-Mart wage slave.
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Deebaseron my way to work in a suit and a tieAhhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered Userregular
I am currently out getting coffee and being sociable (except also browsing the forums, bah)
Girl at another table is CLEARLY flirting with the guy she is here with
He appears to be clueless
Write a story for your dorfs. It is law.
So Ashley, she's a bit shy, bit socially awkward, maybe a bit uptight even, but girl knows how to flirt.
Derrick, meanwhile, is unfortunately just as shy and socially awkward and therefore has NO idea what's going on.
All the lip-biting and hair-twirling and nervous giggling in the world won't save these star-crossed potential lovers.
Maybe Derrick realizes she's flirting, but isn't interested. He's not all that shy and socially awkward, Ashley is just putting him in a bad position because he doesn't want to be with her but he doesn't want to hurt her either. He'll tell her when he gets a chance, but he feels that the middle of a coffee shop is not the place to do it.
But Ashley's pretty cute. Derrick could do worse!
I am not projecting my own romantic issues on them at all dammit!
Ashley's pretty cute, but there's more to life than appearance. Ashley's a great girl and Derrick really likes her, but he thinks of her only as a friend. He knows that in the long run, a relationship wouldn't work out.
But how does Derrick know unless he gives Ashley a chance? Maybe he's missing out on something amazing! She values their friendship too but really thinks they could be more!
... Still not projecting.
Obviously, Derrick's got his eye on the girl drinking coffee across the room! She was just as oblivious as Derrick this whole time!
Harry Potter book release: don't worry, no spoilers.
Showed up at seven, in full costume for a nine am release. Devoted no? I was one of the few to dress up, and I was the best-dressed. I'm not being vain, I honestly had the most detailed and accurate costume there.
We were told in line, that the best-dressed person in line gets to open the box and have the first Half-Blood Prince book. So, I'm a shoo-in, aren't I?
WRONG.
Fucking moo brings her bratty sprog in at 8:59am dressed in a generic Kmart cape with stars and glitter and fucking gaudy BLAH. Twig for a wand.
OMG WITTLE PWESHUS SO CUTE OMG YOU CAN OPEN THE BOX AND HAVE THIS BOOK YOU CAN'T READ AND *fawning fawning, blatant breederism etc*
THE FUCKING KID WON'T EVEN REMEMBER THIS. THE BOX OPENING WAS MINE. MIIIIINE.
I wouldn't have minded if someone had said "Oh look Sass, you are best-dressed
but would you mind if this land-mine amputee opened the box instead?" I would
have said "Absolutely no problem. Go for it." But no. FUCKING CROTCHDROPPING
GETS THE HONOUR. I'm furious. On principle of course, not out of any sense of entitlement. Well yes, entitlement also. But I WORKED FOR IT, I DESERVED IT.
I made an effort. I spent money making an effort. I showed up early. I will remember and treasure this event for ever and eternity. And I'm passed over for an ugly little brat with a sparkly tie. Woo fucking woo.
I didn't stab her in the eye with my wand. I WANTED to. I talked about doing so
VERY FUCKING LOUDLY. I was going to eviscerate her mother with the cover of my
brand-new copy.
I fucking hate breeders and child-lovers. FUCKING GO TO HELL.
I'm so pissed about this, sorry. It's just that in ten years time, this kid won't remember what she was doing on July 16th 2005. In ten years time, I will be remembering how I was deprived of this nerdly honor by an opportunistic twat breeder and her shitling. I'm hurt. All my life, nothing has gotten to me more than being deliberately ignored, or passed over. Honestly; that's the sort of thing that can make me cry in public. Or key your car. Or viciously murder you and your family in the heat of frustration and never-ending denial
Tom came in, Ashley jumped to her feet and kissed him pretty intensely. Derrick sat idly by apparently uncaring, possibly even aware of this relationship.
Ashley's a flirty slut.
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ChanusHarbinger of the Spicy Rooster ApocalypseThe Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered Userregular
Aight, I think I understand my own position better now. Short term employment in infrastructure ==> More consumption ==> More jobs in the private sector... But won't the private sector jobs dry up at the same time as the infrastructure jobs? i mean, you'll have people laid off and consuming less, no?
Not necessarily. The idea is you don't stop employing people federally until the private sector can pick up the slack.
I believe it was Keynes who talked (tongue-in-cheekily) about paying people to dig holes and then fill them back in.
The spending on employment has a multiplier effect (theoretically? possibly proven, but I don't know it off-hand), so the dollars you're investing, even for nonsense work, return more dollars to the economy.
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ChanusHarbinger of the Spicy Rooster ApocalypseThe Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered Userregular
We easily have decades of infrastructure work we could do... if the economy is depressed for that long, we're well fucked.
I am currently out getting coffee and being sociable (except also browsing the forums, bah)
Girl at another table is CLEARLY flirting with the guy she is here with
He appears to be clueless
Write a story for your dorfs. It is law.
So Ashley, she's a bit shy, bit socially awkward, maybe a bit uptight even, but girl knows how to flirt.
Derrick, meanwhile, is unfortunately just as shy and socially awkward and therefore has NO idea what's going on.
All the lip-biting and hair-twirling and nervous giggling in the world won't save these star-crossed potential lovers.
Maybe Derrick realizes she's flirting, but isn't interested. He's not all that shy and socially awkward, Ashley is just putting him in a bad position because he doesn't want to be with her but he doesn't want to hurt her either. He'll tell her when he gets a chance, but he feels that the middle of a coffee shop is not the place to do it.
But Ashley's pretty cute. Derrick could do worse!
I am not projecting my own romantic issues on them at all dammit!
Ashley's pretty cute, but there's more to life than appearance. Ashley's a great girl and Derrick really likes her, but he thinks of her only as a friend. He knows that in the long run, a relationship wouldn't work out.
But how does Derrick know unless he gives Ashley a chance? Maybe he's missing out on something amazing! She values their friendship too but really thinks they could be more!
... Still not projecting.
Obviously, Derrick's got his eye on the girl drinking coffee across the room! She was just as oblivious as Derrick this whole time!
Unfortunately if this were the case I would be incredibly oblivious because I'm too hung up on my own "Derrick". :P
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MortiousThe Nightmare BeginsMove to New ZealandRegistered Userregular
Aight, I think I understand my own position better now. Short term employment in infrastructure ==> More consumption ==> More jobs in the private sector... But won't the private sector jobs dry up at the same time as the infrastructure jobs? i mean, you'll have people laid off and consuming less, no?
Well, hopefully the private businesses are hiring due to increased demand, so it won't dry up completely.
And since they're infrastructure projects, and not just dig hole/fill hole, the area should be economically more productive.
Whoever came up with adding that to the game should be lauded as a genius. You cannot help but project personality characteristics onto a battlefield medic called "Freud".
Aight, I think I understand my own position better now. Short term employment in infrastructure ==> More consumption ==> More jobs in the private sector... But won't the private sector jobs dry up at the same time as the infrastructure jobs? i mean, you'll have people laid off and consuming less, no?
Well, hopefully the private businesses are hiring due to increased demand, so it won't dry up completely.
And since they're infrastructure projects, and not just dig hole/fill hole, the area should be economically more productive.
Good points.
Thanks, I'm feeling better about my final now... I can converse about unemployment and understand what you guys are saying.
Harry Potter book release: don't worry, no spoilers.
Showed up at seven, in full costume for a nine am release. Devoted no? I was one of the few to dress up, and I was the best-dressed. I'm not being vain, I honestly had the most detailed and accurate costume there.
We were told in line, that the best-dressed person in line gets to open the box and have the first Half-Blood Prince book. So, I'm a shoo-in, aren't I?
WRONG.
Fucking moo brings her bratty sprog in at 8:59am dressed in a generic Kmart cape with stars and glitter and fucking gaudy BLAH. Twig for a wand.
OMG WITTLE PWESHUS SO CUTE OMG YOU CAN OPEN THE BOX AND HAVE THIS BOOK YOU CAN'T READ AND *fawning fawning, blatant breederism etc*
THE FUCKING KID WON'T EVEN REMEMBER THIS. THE BOX OPENING WAS MINE. MIIIIINE.
I wouldn't have minded if someone had said "Oh look Sass, you are best-dressed
but would you mind if this land-mine amputee opened the box instead?" I would
have said "Absolutely no problem. Go for it." But no. FUCKING CROTCHDROPPING
GETS THE HONOUR. I'm furious. On principle of course, not out of any sense of entitlement. Well yes, entitlement also. But I WORKED FOR IT, I DESERVED IT.
I made an effort. I spent money making an effort. I showed up early. I will remember and treasure this event for ever and eternity. And I'm passed over for an ugly little brat with a sparkly tie. Woo fucking woo.
I didn't stab her in the eye with my wand. I WANTED to. I talked about doing so
VERY FUCKING LOUDLY. I was going to eviscerate her mother with the cover of my
brand-new copy.
I fucking hate breeders and child-lovers. FUCKING GO TO HELL.
I'm so pissed about this, sorry. It's just that in ten years time, this kid won't remember what she was doing on July 16th 2005. In ten years time, I will be remembering how I was deprived of this nerdly honor by an opportunistic twat breeder and her shitling. I'm hurt. All my life, nothing has gotten to me more than being deliberately ignored, or passed over. Honestly; that's the sort of thing that can make me cry in public. Or key your car. Or viciously murder you and your family in the heat of frustration and never-ending denial
Congratulations breeders, you win.
Check yo privilege, kids.
Allegedly a voice of reason.
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TehSlothHit Or MissI Guess They Never Miss, HuhRegistered Userregular
Put another chalk mark on the wall as DM in my Call of Cthulhu game tonight. The guy who saw his character cut to ribbons last week by a vengeful cultist saw his new investigator driven insane. Tip: when told by the DM that the many, many paintings on the wall all depict strange, terrifying, disturbing images that threaten to unbalance your mind, don't look at eight of them. Especially not with a SAN of 30.
I need to find another CoC tabletop group. Sadly its all pathfinder country near me.
We had a lot of homebrew rules which led to characters surviving longer. Which usually meant dealing with multiple inanities, which were most of the time self inflicted. Like by looking at aforementioned paintings.
Trying to do normal investigation/CSI type missions while one member of the party is convinced They Live is reality, another is afraid of daylight, etc etc, was... challenging.
Maybe I should reconsider my mostly irration dislike of pathfinder.
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And why not just pray to Moscow five times a day while you're at it, commie?
It’s not a very important country most of the time
http://steamcommunity.com/id/mortious
bummer
that's about a quarter of the population
You projecting harder than your 3rd grade teacher's projector.
Monsters one and all.
Well, the underlying idea is that it -is- short-term and temporary.
The goal is simply to get people employed so they can spend money, not necessarily to keep them employed. The idea is that having temporary work keeps the economy growing, and thus opens up private sector job opportunities.
Though, at the same point, we could hire back all the federal and state workers we've laid off in misguided cost-cutting measures to permanent positions. I think the number there is something like 700,000, which is a large chunk of the non-discouraged unemployed.
It works, though. Mainly by giving those construction workers money to spend (this should be hundreds of thousands of people ideally), boosting economic demand across the board and forcing other sectors to hire in order to support the increased demand.
I don't know a lot of the intricacies behind it but it's why the 50s and all of its Super-Projects basically worked.
That last panel is what, in the darkest corner of his mind, every DM aspires to achieve.
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this one time i was trying to make some sick lego with one and he was like LOL IM GOING TO PUT A RED BRICK IN TEH WHITE WALL
im like no you dumb fuck coordinate your fucking colours but he kept on doing it
so i smothered him to death and made my lego robot in peace
Geeks become biologists. Projection occurs.
It’s not a very important country most of the time
http://steamcommunity.com/id/mortious
as short term fixes go, it's a pretty good one
the US has some major infrastructure shit that needs to get taken care of
Oh, I do. :P
Kind of like unfettered capitalism.
things are finally working out like I hoped they would, don't have to do any more ridiculous red tape, I might even get my bachelors before age 30 putting me only at marginal scrub teir status
all according to keikeku
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Depends on how much you believe in the Keynesian multiplier.
Basically, those construction companies go and spend their money, some of it locally on shops and grocers and mechanics and so forth, some of it by importing in goods from other places. Those grocers and mechanics and shops then spend their money, which stimulates more business. In other words, each $1 spent circulates in the economy, causing more than $1 worth of demand overall.
This is definitely a thing that happens, though as far as I can tell, nobody can decide exactly how much it happens.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Having a degree at or before 30 puts you way above scrub tier. You are probably gold tier at that point. Silver tier is assistant manager at McDonalds and bronze tier is Wal-Mart wage slave.
Obviously, Derrick's got his eye on the girl drinking coffee across the room! She was just as oblivious as Derrick this whole time!
Harry Potter book release: don't worry, no spoilers.
Showed up at seven, in full costume for a nine am release. Devoted no? I was one of the few to dress up, and I was the best-dressed. I'm not being vain, I honestly had the most detailed and accurate costume there.
We were told in line, that the best-dressed person in line gets to open the box and have the first Half-Blood Prince book. So, I'm a shoo-in, aren't I?
WRONG.
Fucking moo brings her bratty sprog in at 8:59am dressed in a generic Kmart cape with stars and glitter and fucking gaudy BLAH. Twig for a wand.
OMG WITTLE PWESHUS SO CUTE OMG YOU CAN OPEN THE BOX AND HAVE THIS BOOK YOU CAN'T READ AND *fawning fawning, blatant breederism etc*
THE FUCKING KID WON'T EVEN REMEMBER THIS. THE BOX OPENING WAS MINE. MIIIIINE.
I wouldn't have minded if someone had said "Oh look Sass, you are best-dressed
but would you mind if this land-mine amputee opened the box instead?" I would
have said "Absolutely no problem. Go for it." But no. FUCKING CROTCHDROPPING
GETS THE HONOUR. I'm furious. On principle of course, not out of any sense of entitlement. Well yes, entitlement also. But I WORKED FOR IT, I DESERVED IT.
I made an effort. I spent money making an effort. I showed up early. I will remember and treasure this event for ever and eternity. And I'm passed over for an ugly little brat with a sparkly tie. Woo fucking woo.
I didn't stab her in the eye with my wand. I WANTED to. I talked about doing so
VERY FUCKING LOUDLY. I was going to eviscerate her mother with the cover of my
brand-new copy.
I fucking hate breeders and child-lovers. FUCKING GO TO HELL.
I'm so pissed about this, sorry. It's just that in ten years time, this kid won't remember what she was doing on July 16th 2005. In ten years time, I will be remembering how I was deprived of this nerdly honor by an opportunistic twat breeder and her shitling. I'm hurt. All my life, nothing has gotten to me more than being deliberately ignored, or passed over. Honestly; that's the sort of thing that can make me cry in public. Or key your car. Or viciously murder you and your family in the heat of frustration and never-ending denial
Congratulations breeders, you win.
Tom came in, Ashley jumped to her feet and kissed him pretty intensely. Derrick sat idly by apparently uncaring, possibly even aware of this relationship.
Ashley's a flirty slut.
Not necessarily. The idea is you don't stop employing people federally until the private sector can pick up the slack.
I believe it was Keynes who talked (tongue-in-cheekily) about paying people to dig holes and then fill them back in.
The spending on employment has a multiplier effect (theoretically? possibly proven, but I don't know it off-hand), so the dollars you're investing, even for nonsense work, return more dollars to the economy.
Unfortunately if this were the case I would be incredibly oblivious because I'm too hung up on my own "Derrick". :P
Well, hopefully the private businesses are hiring due to increased demand, so it won't dry up completely.
And since they're infrastructure projects, and not just dig hole/fill hole, the area should be economically more productive.
It’s not a very important country most of the time
http://steamcommunity.com/id/mortious
WHAT A TWEEEST!
Whoever came up with adding that to the game should be lauded as a genius. You cannot help but project personality characteristics onto a battlefield medic called "Freud".
no gooby am fanastsic postr
Like, I know food stamps return something like $1.30-$1.70 for every dollar spent.
They appear to be different races, which makes that possibility pretty slim
Good points.
Thanks, I'm feeling better about my final now... I can converse about unemployment and understand what you guys are saying.
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umm...
uhh..
racist
*runs*
no sc what have you done
red bricks in white walls is the child's version of fuck the policeeeeeeee
Check yo privilege, kids.
That's orphanalist as hell
twitch.tv/tehsloth
the wonders of genetics make all things possible
ps DRUM AND BASS
all in all, it's just another brick in the wall.
Woah woah woah woah woah
Let's not start developing Stockholm Syndrome now