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    Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    titmouse wrote: »
    How about the fact that for the last 20 years, video games were a Japanese industry? After Atari went off the deep end, the industry was really just Nintendo, Sega, and later Sony. I mean, there's a whole generation of folks over there that grew up knowing that video games were a primarily Japanese thing that was liked and imitated by folks elsewhere in the world. A non-Japanese video game console must seem anaethema to them.
    Sega was an American company and what you are saying assumes that the Japanese care where their electronic goods come from, which I doubt is true.

    Sega is about as American as Hockey.

    And the Japanese sure as hell DO care where their electronics come from.

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    CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Bioware is Sega? :P

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    EriosErios Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Cantido wrote: »
    Bioware is Sega? :P

    Finkle is Einhorn!

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    WienkeWienke Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Erios wrote: »
    Cantido wrote: »
    Bioware is Sega? :P

    Finkle is Einhorn!

    Your gun is digging into my hip *shudder*

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    Inglorious CoyoteInglorious Coyote Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Meh, I still like Japanese games and unless American or Western companies offer a better game than the Japanese games, I shall still stick with my JRPGs/SRPGs.
    And people say stereotypes are never right.

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    PataPata Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    KA is the living Avatar of Webaboo stereotypes.

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    PunkBoyPunkBoy Thank you! And thank you again! Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Can someone fully explain weeaboo to me? I know it's from PBF, but I have no idea how it relates to stereotypes.

    EDIT: Or rather, how it became associated with this steroetype

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    Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    PunkBoy wrote: »
    Can someone fully explain weeaboo to me? I know it's from PBF, but I have no idea how it relates to stereotypes.

    EDIT: Or rather, how it became associated with this steroetype
    Try Urban Dictonary. (May not be safe for work.)

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    FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Guuuys. You just gotta open your minds, and let brotherhood and happiness fill you maaan. We're aaaallll Japanamericans. In our hearts.
    BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! *waves axe*

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    GoombaGoomba __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2007
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    Guuuys. You just gotta open your minds, and let brotherhood and happiness fill you maaan. We're aaaallll Japanamericans. In our hearts.
    BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! *waves axe*
    I think you mean "For the Greater Good."

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    MorskittarMorskittar Lord Warlock Engineer SeattleRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Heresy.

    What does this British stuff have to do with the thread, other than being better than American and Japanese gaming preferences, combined.

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    PataPata Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Morskittar wrote: »
    Heresy.

    What does this British stuff have to do with the thread, other than being better than American and Japanese gaming preferences, combined.

    Replace Football games with Soccer games and you have British tastes as they differ from the U.S

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    GoombaGoomba __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2007
    Also Tau. Just look at them.

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    MinionOfCthulhuMinionOfCthulhu Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Tau are awesome.

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    EriosErios Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    Guuuys. You just gotta open your minds, and let brotherhood and happiness fill you maaan. We're aaaallll Japanamericans. In our hearts.
    BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! *waves axe*

    MORE SKULLS FOR THE THRONE!

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    GoombaGoomba __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2007
    Erios wrote: »
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    Guuuys. You just gotta open your minds, and let brotherhood and happiness fill you maaan. We're aaaallll Japanamericans. In our hearts.
    BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! *waves axe*

    MORE SKULLS FOR THE THRONE!
    What kind of throne?

    But the point I was making is that Tau are heavily influenced by anime.

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    PipboyPipboy Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Robo Beat wrote: »
    How about the fact that for the last 20 years, video games were a Japanese industry? After Atari went off the deep end, the industry was really just Nintendo, Sega, and later Sony. I mean, there's a whole generation of folks over there that grew up knowing that video games were a primarily Japanese thing that was liked and imitated by folks elsewhere in the world. A non-Japanese video game console must seem anaethema to them.

    Either that, or it's just general Japanese racism/apprehension regarding all things gaijin. You make the call


    Oh, I never meant to imply that that isn't a big part of it, especially since such apprehension is hardly unique problem when a company tries to break into a foreign market ruled by 800 pound gorillas. For example, Honda Motors didn't overthrow the US auto industry because they just waltzed in with a few set-in-stone product specifications and rammed them down our throats. They had to move design teams over here and scrap the idea of making big bikes (which faced stiff competition from the US and the Brits) and start making light commuters that suited the needs of college students and other young people who would go on to trust Japanese vehicles well into the future. Microsoft, unfortunately, has a tough battle ahead mostly because you can't just go and introduce a new model of console tailored to a region or market every year because half the battle is establishing your newest baby as a valid standard for developers and gamers to invest in for years to come. They have to hope that online gaming will be a big enough "niche" for them to eventually make headway into being profitable in Japan in the future. That's a pretty tough sell though; Japan's got a high population density and portable systems rule as invincible God-Emperors. Explaining to the Japanese just why they should bother getting consoles online when they can't throw a spare cellphone without hitting another gamer must be a tricky thing.

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    KetherialKetherial Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Lork wrote: »
    I suppose this is as good a place to ask as any. What's with the ranking systems in Japanese games? At first they go from D to A like school grades, which sort of makes sense, but then you go above A and get... S? What's up with that?

    nintendo does this shit too, which i think of as like a really kind grading system. in the real world you would have:

    *** = a
    ** = b
    * = c
    a = d
    b = f

    so everytime a nintendo game gives you a 'b', it's really saying "you fucking suck", but because we're so nice and don't want to hurt your feelings, we'll give you a grade that is customarily considered "above average".

    fuck you nintendo. i dont need to be patronized. i can accept that i suck. you bastards.

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    KetherialKetherial Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Wait. Yakuza is considered one of the best games ever made in Japan?

    I mean. Cool, I can see... but the reviews were terrible bad.

    Nintendogs and FFXII I can see, though. Even if XII was kind of just a single player MMO.

    yakuza won all kinds of awards and was rated incredibly well. it sold poorly though.

    i loved it, but i can see how someone who has no connection with japan would hate it.

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    KetherialKetherial Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    emnmnme wrote: »
    Ketherial wrote: »
    emnmnme wrote: »
    I doubt that very much, mblackwell. While tastes differ, most of these are over superficial things. Style, setting, personality, etc. but a good core is a good core. Mechanics. Pacing. Intuitive controls and original puzzles. These kinds of things can't be argued since they're not all that subjective - if you can see a lot of love and polish went into development, you will say it's a well made game.

    Not liking Half-Life 2 because you felt detached from the story is ridiculous. You should be busy throwing saw blades at zombies and not worrying about what Eli Vance said ten minutes prior. I can't wrap my head around this ... it's like saying you don't like Mario 64 because you don't feel like rescuing the Princess and feel detached in the body of a fat plumber from Brooklyn. The points of HL2 is shooting things and not getting shot and it does those things very well.

    Does anyone have that finding from 2001 where some university showed a landscape to Asians and then to North Americans? It was a painting of a creek with some mountains in the background. When asked, the Americans commented on how they focused on the fish in the creek first and the Chinese said they saw the mountains first and the fish later.

    did you like nintendogs?

    how about final fantasy xii?

    or what about yakuza?

    wait, you're not going to tell me you've never played any of them are you? those are considered some of the most respected, best games to ever be made. in japan.

    Is there some different Yakuza game over there than here? Because the only Yakuza game here got terrible reviews for being repetitive and lacked originality. I've also heard Nintendog's gets old after a week so I never tried that one...and I have a real dog already. :P

    so did you get my point or not? just because it's rated incredibly well in japan doesn't mean that it will be considered great in the u.s.

    similarly, just because almost every american loves hl2 doesnt mean most japanese people will like it. they might play it and go meh, just like you play yakuza and go meh. however, i introduced yakuza to my non-game playing friend and he was like "woah, this is fucking awesome". even my wife loved yakuza and she doesn't even like nintendo games.

    so a good game is not a good game is not a good game. or something like that. different peeps like different things. strapping a dude to a chair and making him play hl2 doesnt mean he'll like it. quality is not objective.

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    KetherialKetherial Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Magus` wrote: »
    I think the main difference between "males are better than females" is that in a lot of Japanese culture I've seen they basically state it directly. It seems to be more subtle in US culture. Not saying it isn't blatant at times, but it seems to be a lot more common in their culture.

    i totally agree.

    i live in japan and love it, but they really, really, really need to get their gender equality issues fixed. cause right now they are like the most broken first world country ever when it comes to gender equality.

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    gilraingilrain Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Ketherial wrote: »
    Magus` wrote: »
    I think the main difference between "males are better than females" is that in a lot of Japanese culture I've seen they basically state it directly. It seems to be more subtle in US culture. Not saying it isn't blatant at times, but it seems to be a lot more common in their culture.
    i totally agree.

    i live in japan and love it, but they really, really, really need to get their gender equality issues fixed. cause right now they are like the most broken first world country ever when it comes to gender equality.
    Hm, that's very interesting! I don't disagree, or anything, but I'm curious for examples. I'd be interested in any you could offer, especially telling, common-place things.

    I'm mainly curious because, though only a casual fan, the few animes I've seen seem to represent females in at least as strong a light as American media. I assume the Japanese media is probably more advanced than the actual culture, and that accounts for the difference. Anyway, I'd be interested in some examples, just for fun.

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    gilrain wrote: »
    Ketherial wrote: »
    Magus` wrote: »
    I think the main difference between "males are better than females" is that in a lot of Japanese culture I've seen they basically state it directly. It seems to be more subtle in US culture. Not saying it isn't blatant at times, but it seems to be a lot more common in their culture.
    i totally agree.

    i live in japan and love it, but they really, really, really need to get their gender equality issues fixed. cause right now they are like the most broken first world country ever when it comes to gender equality.
    Hm, that's very interesting! I don't disagree, or anything, but I'm curious for examples. I'd be interested in any you could offer, especially telling, common-place things.

    I'm mainly curious because, though only a casual fan, the few animes I've seen seem to represent females in at least as strong a light as American media. I assume the Japanese media is probably more advanced than the actual culture, and that accounts for the difference. Anyway, I'd be interested in some examples, just for fun.

    I have no such examples, but last I checked, the cartoons a country produces aren't the best measuring stick.

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    gilraingilrain Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    gilrain wrote: »
    Ketherial wrote: »
    Magus` wrote: »
    I think the main difference between "males are better than females" is that in a lot of Japanese culture I've seen they basically state it directly. It seems to be more subtle in US culture. Not saying it isn't blatant at times, but it seems to be a lot more common in their culture.
    i totally agree.

    i live in japan and love it, but they really, really, really need to get their gender equality issues fixed. cause right now they are like the most broken first world country ever when it comes to gender equality.
    Hm, that's very interesting! I don't disagree, or anything, but I'm curious for examples. I'd be interested in any you could offer, especially telling, common-place things.

    I'm mainly curious because, though only a casual fan, the few animes I've seen seem to represent females in at least as strong a light as American media. I assume the Japanese media is probably more advanced than the actual culture, and that accounts for the difference. Anyway, I'd be interested in some examples, just for fun.
    I have no such examples, but last I checked, the cartoons a country produces aren't the best measuring stick.
    Yes, that's why I stated myself as inexperienced and asked for examples.

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    DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    You know how in the US women were paid only like 60% of what a man would earn if they had the same job up until a few decades ago?

    It's still like that in Japan. Though good luck to a woman getting a really nice-paying job. Chances are she'll never be any higher than an OL.

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    durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Ketherial wrote: »
    so did you get my point or not? just because it's rated incredibly well in japan doesn't mean that it will be considered great in the u.s.

    similarly, just because almost every american loves hl2 doesnt mean most japanese people will like it. they might play it and go meh, just like you play yakuza and go meh. however, i introduced yakuza to my non-game playing friend and he was like "woah, this is fucking awesome". even my wife loved yakuza and she doesn't even like nintendo games.

    so a good game is not a good game is not a good game. or something like that. different peeps like different things. strapping a dude to a chair and making him play hl2 doesnt mean he'll like it. quality is not objective.
    Well, yes. But to a point. There are reasonably objective criteria that you can rate things on. For instance, a game that say... shoots my parents, would be a bad game. One that gave me liquor on demand might be a good game. I don't think it's sensible to say that there is no way to objectively judge a game. Even if it's just "99.9% of people will not enjoy the way this game shoots your parents".

    Now, objectively saying something like "Half Life 2 is the best game" is impossible, but saying "Half Life 2 is a really good game" is pretty possible to say for the majority.

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    WienkeWienke Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    gilrain wrote: »
    gilrain wrote: »
    Ketherial wrote: »
    Magus` wrote: »
    I think the main difference between "males are better than females" is that in a lot of Japanese culture I've seen they basically state it directly. It seems to be more subtle in US culture. Not saying it isn't blatant at times, but it seems to be a lot more common in their culture.
    i totally agree.

    i live in japan and love it, but they really, really, really need to get their gender equality issues fixed. cause right now they are like the most broken first world country ever when it comes to gender equality.
    Hm, that's very interesting! I don't disagree, or anything, but I'm curious for examples. I'd be interested in any you could offer, especially telling, common-place things.

    I'm mainly curious because, though only a casual fan, the few animes I've seen seem to represent females in at least as strong a light as American media. I assume the Japanese media is probably more advanced than the actual culture, and that accounts for the difference. Anyway, I'd be interested in some examples, just for fun.
    I have no such examples, but last I checked, the cartoons a country produces aren't the best measuring stick.
    Yes, that's why I stated myself as inexperienced and asked for examples.

    Totally serious here and I apologize if its something we're not supposed to talk about but in Japanese porn, the woman never seems to enjoy it but seems like she's in some kind of submissive pain.

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    SophismataSophismata Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    gilrain wrote: »
    gilrain wrote: »
    Ketherial wrote: »
    Magus` wrote: »
    I think the main difference between "males are better than females" is that in a lot of Japanese culture I've seen they basically state it directly. It seems to be more subtle in US culture. Not saying it isn't blatant at times, but it seems to be a lot more common in their culture.
    i totally agree.

    i live in japan and love it, but they really, really, really need to get their gender equality issues fixed. cause right now they are like the most broken first world country ever when it comes to gender equality.
    Hm, that's very interesting! I don't disagree, or anything, but I'm curious for examples. I'd be interested in any you could offer, especially telling, common-place things.

    I'm mainly curious because, though only a casual fan, the few animes I've seen seem to represent females in at least as strong a light as American media. I assume the Japanese media is probably more advanced than the actual culture, and that accounts for the difference. Anyway, I'd be interested in some examples, just for fun.
    I have no such examples, but last I checked, the cartoons a country produces aren't the best measuring stick.
    Yes, that's why I stated myself as inexperienced and asked for examples.

    It tends to be subtle, but it's quite present. The most telling statistic is in employment, where all high (all almost all) high-paying / executive positions are held by men. Women are strongly discouraged from seeking "proper" employment, and the expectation is still that they get married and start a family sooner rather than later. While times are changing, they are changing slowly. At the moment, there's a divide - women are taking courses / learning in areas such as education, and I believe (looking at University) that there are far more women in education than men, whereas outside that area (and similar areas) the reverse is most definately true. Bear in mind that I'm pulling this from memory of when I was in Japan, which was several years ago, now.

    Less telling is the way legality is handled with regards to harassment, abuse and rape. Bottom line, if you're a white woman raped in Japan, God help you, because the law usually won't. Japanese women can expect fair / equitable treatment provided the case is strong. Recently the introduction of women-only train carriages has become more prominent, however there was a time when you would expect to be groped while on a train/bus, and people would only do something about it if you were lucky. Indeed, there is a (fairly) popular tale of an otaku who defended someone in a similar situation... see Densha Otoko for info.

    That probably highlights the issues the best, but it runs throughout most of Japanese society... and you can see its influence in anime/manga if you look closely enough. (In particular, "strong" female types are almost never the lead or primary romantic interest).

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    KetherialKetherial Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    ketherial wrote:
    quality is not objective.
    Well, yes. But to a point. There are reasonably objective criteria that you can rate things on. For instance, a game that say... shoots my parents, would be a bad game. One that gave me liquor on demand might be a good game. I don't think it's sensible to say that there is no way to objectively judge a game. Even if it's just "99.9% of people will not enjoy the way this game shoots your parents".

    Now, objectively saying something like "Half Life 2 is the best game" is impossible, but saying "Half Life 2 is a really good game" is pretty possible to say for the majority.

    i find it strange that you say "reasonably objective criteria" then the example you give is of a game that kills your parents.

    if you want to make a point, could you use a realistic example? because as of now, what youre saying sounds meaningless to me.

    i mean, what kind of objective criteria are you talking about? graphics? some people dont care. music? subjective. gameplay? subjective. fun? subjective. difficulty? subjective. i'm genuinely interested in what you have to say about this because i dont think there is any objective criteria for a "good game".

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    KetherialKetherial Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    gilrain wrote: »
    Ketherial wrote: »
    Magus` wrote: »
    I think the main difference between "males are better than females" is that in a lot of Japanese culture I've seen they basically state it directly. It seems to be more subtle in US culture. Not saying it isn't blatant at times, but it seems to be a lot more common in their culture.
    i totally agree.

    i live in japan and love it, but they really, really, really need to get their gender equality issues fixed. cause right now they are like the most broken first world country ever when it comes to gender equality.
    Hm, that's very interesting! I don't disagree, or anything, but I'm curious for examples. I'd be interested in any you could offer, especially telling, common-place things.

    I'm mainly curious because, though only a casual fan, the few animes I've seen seem to represent females in at least as strong a light as American media. I assume the Japanese media is probably more advanced than the actual culture, and that accounts for the difference. Anyway, I'd be interested in some examples, just for fun.

    well, someone already mentioned the work place and it is pretty bad. here's an interesting study that gives a lot of numbers: http://www.gender.go.jp/english_contents/index.html

    more casually and anecdotally, there are serious preconceptions regarding how women should act, whether it be in public or in relation to others. socially, older women are outcasted, especially if they are not married or have no children. a few years ago, a famous bestseller was written labeling women above 30 who are not married and have no foreseeable marriage opportunity on the horizon as "losers" (makeinu - a defeated or beaten dog). it was written by a woman and enlightening in some ways because it described how japanese society viewed woman and what their role in society is. it was kind of creepy.

    there is also a serious desire to infantilize women here. most men here simply cannot find powerful or intelligent women attractive. in japan, being an attorney is an incredibly elite position (it used to be that only 1000 attorneys were admitted to the bar each year for the entire country!). most of my friends in the u.s. would find an intelligent female attorney to be awesomely attractive. however, it continues to be the case that female attorneys here, regardless of how physically attractive they are, continue to have difficulty finding a husband (whereas male attorneys are considered prize catches for women).

    another sad example is how the diet and most politicians reacted to the fact that the young princess might inherit the tennou (emperor) position. the position itself is just a figurehead. the emperor has no political power. however, regardless of that, the diet considered amending the laws to make it so that only a male could inherit the position. one of the dumber reasons given for the proposed amendment was "the girl might fall in love with a handsome foreigner, then the emperor would no longer be full blooded japanese". WTF? NO SERIOUSLY, WHAT THE FUCK? politicians feel comfortable saying stupid backward shit like that in public here. WHAT THE FUCK!

    anyway, i know the stuff above doesnt only apply to japan and it is actually getting better, albeit slowly.

    also it's a bit more nuanced then the impression i give above. for example, in most marriages here, the wife controls all the money. so if hubby wants to buy a new digital camera or something, he usually has to beg his wife for money or a raise in his allowance. im serious. most married japanese guys are on allowance systems here. hahahahaha. awesome.

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    Katchem_ashKatchem_ash __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2007
    I don't see how thats bad. The Emperor/Empresses of Japan must be a pure blood Japanese not some foreigner. I would totally be for that if I was Japanese.

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I don't see how thats bad. The Emperor/Empresses of Japan must be a pure blood Japanese not some foreigner. I would totally be for that if I was Japanese.
    The President has to be American, which I realize doesn't have the same 'racial purity, lol' factor, but with our politics, it may as well be anyways.

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    There was also that government official who referred to women as baby making machines.
    On Jan. 27 Japan's Health Minister Hakuo Yanagisawa gave a speech on the country's shrinking population in which he referred to Japanese women of childbearing age as "baby-making machines." He went onto explain that arresting population decline was difficult "because the number of baby-making machines and devices is fixed [in the population]; all we can do is ask them to do their best per head."

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    I don't see how thats bad. The Emperor/Empresses of Japan must be a pure blood Japanese not some foreigner. I would totally be for that if I was Japanese.
    The President has to be American, which I realize doesn't have the same 'racial purity, lol' factor, but with our politics, it may as well be anyways.

    That wasn't what was wrong with that statement to me. What was wrong with it was that they assumed that the woman is more likely to run off with a foreigner than a man.

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    JansonJanson Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I don't see how thats bad. The Emperor/Empresses of Japan must be a pure blood Japanese not some foreigner. I would totally be for that if I was Japanese.

    You don't see how it's bad to use the argument only against a female heir?

    A male heir to the throne is just as capable of falling in love with a foreign female, is he not?

    What about a female heir being female would cause her to be more likely to fall in love with a foreigner?

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    KlykaKlyka DO you have any SPARE BATTERIES?Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Janson wrote: »
    I don't see how thats bad. The Emperor/Empresses of Japan must be a pure blood Japanese not some foreigner. I would totally be for that if I was Japanese.

    You don't see how it's bad to use the argument only against a female heir?

    A male heir to the throne is just as capable of falling in love with a foreign female, is he not?

    What about a female heir being female would cause her to be more likely to fall in love with a foreigner?
    BIG DICK-U!!???

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    JansonJanson Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Okay - I laughed

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    titmouse wrote: »
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    I don't see how thats bad. The Emperor/Empresses of Japan must be a pure blood Japanese not some foreigner. I would totally be for that if I was Japanese.
    The President has to be American, which I realize doesn't have the same 'racial purity, lol' factor, but with our politics, it may as well be anyways.

    That wasn't what was wrong with that statement to me. What was wrong with it was that they assumed that the woman is more likely to run off with a foreigner than a man.
    Well have you seen Japanese men lately? It's No Wonder! Honestly, I agree with you, it's just that I get worked up enough about my own countries institutional stupidities that everyone else looks quaint and 'traditional'.

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    Katchem_ashKatchem_ash __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2007
    Janson wrote: »
    I don't see how thats bad. The Emperor/Empresses of Japan must be a pure blood Japanese not some foreigner. I would totally be for that if I was Japanese.

    You don't see how it's bad to use the argument only against a female heir?

    A male heir to the throne is just as capable of falling in love with a foreign female, is he not?

    What about a female heir being female would cause her to be more likely to fall in love with a foreigner?

    Well, I wasn't commenting on the comment that guy made, just on the basis of it.

    Regardless, I think that the idea is to stop any and all foriegn blood coming into the throne regardless of the gender. Which I fully support. The Japanese Emperor/Empress should be pure Japanese.

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    mulliganmulligan Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    American people prefer the taste of farm animals (chicken, pig, cow, etc), Japanese people prefer the taste of domesticated animals (dog, cat, hamster, turtle).

    wait... that is what this thread is about, right? i didn't actually read the op... or.. any of the other posts. just the title, actually.

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