as a non-pc master race kool-aid drinker, valve seems generally fairly shitty
is the boner people have for them entirely half-life 2 and steam sales
Team Fortress 2, Portal 2, Left 4 Dead 2.
When valve decides to make a game it is generally good. They just seem to have a problem with the number 3, and they really don't have to make much of anything because they make bank every time someone buys a game through steam.
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i'm still mad that literally every dota2 tournament replay is paywalled when you used to be able to get them for free
generally the sites that do match commentary put their commentary up on youtube for free but it means you have to use their spectator which sucks
every time i've heard about him in the past five years it's been an announcement that some thing will happen in the vague future, and then the announcement that that thing will not happen ever
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every time i've heard about him in the past five years it's been an announcement that some thing will happen in the vague future, and then the announcement that that thing will not happen ever
Pacific Rim.
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The CNN comments section on the Bruce Jenner article is chock-full o' derp, but in ways I never expected.
I particularly liked the guy who insisted that his coming-out interview was just another ploy from the Illuminati on Wall Street to "rob us all blind."
That's a thought process that goes not from A to B, but from A to F to X to Purple.
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every time i've heard about him in the past five years it's been an announcement that some thing will happen in the vague future, and then the announcement that that thing will not happen ever
I . . . kinda hope it stays that way
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Also, not nearly as bad as James Cameron and his decision to not make Battle Angel until the Avatar train gets run into the ground.
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What? You guys didn't like Hellboy? Or Pan's Labyrinth?
Valve and blizzard has made pretty much every multiplayer game I have played a lot of in the last decade. And I only very rarely play single player stuff
That doesn't mean I necessarily love them, or take part in the pathetic "pcmasterrace" stuff, but overall they deliver more fun in my direction than anyone else so you know... I take what I can get
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every time i've heard about him in the past five years it's been an announcement that some thing will happen in the vague future, and then the announcement that that thing will not happen ever
Pacific rim, The Strain, Crimson Peak which is in post-production...
every time i've heard about him in the past five years it's been an announcement that some thing will happen in the vague future, and then the announcement that that thing will not happen ever
I . . . kinda hope it stays that way
I wish i didn't have to disagree with you all the time, Atomika.
When valve opened the floodgates is about the time I could no longer find anything I wanted to buy from steam. The monetizing mods thing is pretty goofy in the way its implemented. If they wanted to do right by the community they should of set up the modders to get a majority of the funds.
Wonder how many people will jump off of steam and buy from amazon or whatever and then just add mods that way.
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I love his work and I was looking forward to Silent Hills.
Whatever happened between Konami and Kojima must have been fucking devastating, if they were willing to kill this massively hyped game over it.
Edit: to be clear, this was not toro's decision - Hideo Kojima is on his ass and out the door at Konami, and he was the EP of Silent Hills alongside Toro.
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When valve opened the floodgates is about the time I could no longer find anything I wanted to buy from steam. The monetizing mods thing is pretty goofy in the way its implemented. If they wanted to do right by the community they should of set up the modders to get a majority of the funds.
Wonder how many people will jump off of steam and buy from amazon or whatever and then just add mods that way.
From what I understand, Steam's cut is 30%, and then the developer/publisher of the game set their cut. Bethesda decided 45% which is why modders only get 25%.
Again, I think that Bethesda is being extremely unethical while I'm having trouble faulting Steam for trying a paid mod system.
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Although, as is normal, their implementation of it seems incredibly dumb.
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man i've not really been thinking much of the paid mods thing
part of it is that i just never use them, not even for bethesda games, so it's pretty out-of-sight out-of-mind for me
but even taking a second to think about it, it just seems incredibly shitty as a consumer
if i were developing mods i'd be pretty happy about it, i guess? but man
paying for mods doesn't really bother me ethically, but now the chance i don't use them has pretty well gone from 99 to 100%
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Well, the worst thing about the paid mods is the Steam Workshop is going to turn into the same thing as the Appstore. A shitton of awful quality drowning out the good stuff to the point that I can't be bothered to buy anything anymore.
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Honestly, i would love to see paid mods for Tabletop Simulator.
Can't think of other games where the paid workshop content could be good, though.
But can you imagine if TTS had paid mods? I'd feel a lot less bad for getting existing games on there.
I think there's a pretty serious issue with depending on other mods.
There are plenty of mods that depend on content provided by other mods, and there was a gentleperson's agreement between mod authors since there was no money in it.
Now there's money in it and I can make a paid mod that uses a bunch of free content provided by other mods.
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every time i've heard about him in the past five years it's been an announcement that some thing will happen in the vague future, and then the announcement that that thing will not happen ever
I . . . kinda hope it stays that way
I wish i didn't have to disagree with you all the time, Atomika.
*hugs*
I still think you're rad anyway
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Steam has moved PC gaming in the last decade from something most publishers ignore and whole genres didn't launch on to arguably the premier platform to game on.
Their software is mediocre, their techsupport is atrocious. The VAC/account stealing rules is an abomination.
But their pricing structure combined with the trust they got as DRM and the fact that they were the first to give a crowd to the indie public essentially turned the entire industry around. Remember where the X1 and PS4 were heading before Sony hail mary'd with their "WE LOVE INDIES NOW" E3 presentation.
During the 360 there were only 6 (?) indie games allowed to be released per month, they had to pay huge fees for every patch.
And consider that in the current gaming climate, the AAA titles are becoming increasingly safe and samey, and most of the (imo) fun stuff are coming from at least 1 or 2 tiers below.
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I think there's a pretty serious issue with depending on other mods.
There are plenty of mods that depend on content provided by other mods, and there was a gentleperson's agreement between mod authors since there was no money in it.
Now there's money in it and I can make a paid mod that uses a bunch of free content provided by other mods.
every time i've heard about him in the past five years it's been an announcement that some thing will happen in the vague future, and then the announcement that that thing will not happen ever
I . . . kinda hope it stays that way
I wish i didn't have to disagree with you all the time, Atomika.
Well, the worst thing about the paid mods is the Steam Workshop is going to turn into the same thing as the Appstore. A shitton of awful quality drowning out the good stuff to the point that I can't be bothered to buy anything anymore.
In my experience the Workshop was that way right from the start. I always found the good stuff either by trawling through the Nexus, or word of mouth in the Skyrim thread in G&T.
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Pooh, I thought of a good model for paid mods.
Show what the price for the mod is going to be, and show a "try" button, which does a pre-authorization of your card and let's you install the mod.
After 2 hours of in-game time, the game asks you if you want to keep the mod. If yes, your card is charged and you resume as normal. If no, your save is reverted to the point before the mod and the mod is deleted and cannot be given another trial unless a major point release happens (1.x to 2.x, not 1.1 to 1.2)
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Sadly, it's very unlikely that Kojima is out on his ass for the reasons I would have wanted him out on his ass long ago
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I don't think that's how the Big Sisters program works, Shiv
Release them
is the boner people have for them entirely half-life 2 and steam sales
i think it's really handy to have roughly 55% of my game library launcheable from a single client.
Even if that means i don't actually own the games.
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yeah, pretty much
i mean, half life is just okay but the steam sales are what grabbed me
Team Fortress 2, Portal 2, Left 4 Dead 2.
When valve decides to make a game it is generally good. They just seem to have a problem with the number 3, and they really don't have to make much of anything because they make bank every time someone buys a game through steam.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
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everyone else did
generally the sites that do match commentary put their commentary up on youtube for free but it means you have to use their spectator which sucks
every time i've heard about him in the past five years it's been an announcement that some thing will happen in the vague future, and then the announcement that that thing will not happen ever
Pacific Rim.
I particularly liked the guy who insisted that his coming-out interview was just another ploy from the Illuminati on Wall Street to "rob us all blind."
That's a thought process that goes not from A to B, but from A to F to X to Purple.
I . . . kinda hope it stays that way
That doesn't mean I necessarily love them, or take part in the pathetic "pcmasterrace" stuff, but overall they deliver more fun in my direction than anyone else so you know... I take what I can get
Pacific rim, The Strain, Crimson Peak which is in post-production...
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I wish i didn't have to disagree with you all the time, Atomika.
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Wonder how many people will jump off of steam and buy from amazon or whatever and then just add mods that way.
Whatever happened between Konami and Kojima must have been fucking devastating, if they were willing to kill this massively hyped game over it.
Edit: to be clear, this was not toro's decision - Hideo Kojima is on his ass and out the door at Konami, and he was the EP of Silent Hills alongside Toro.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
From what I understand, Steam's cut is 30%, and then the developer/publisher of the game set their cut. Bethesda decided 45% which is why modders only get 25%.
Again, I think that Bethesda is being extremely unethical while I'm having trouble faulting Steam for trying a paid mod system.
part of it is that i just never use them, not even for bethesda games, so it's pretty out-of-sight out-of-mind for me
but even taking a second to think about it, it just seems incredibly shitty as a consumer
if i were developing mods i'd be pretty happy about it, i guess? but man
paying for mods doesn't really bother me ethically, but now the chance i don't use them has pretty well gone from 99 to 100%
Can't think of other games where the paid workshop content could be good, though.
But can you imagine if TTS had paid mods? I'd feel a lot less bad for getting existing games on there.
Also i could sell my dumb board game ideas.
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There are plenty of mods that depend on content provided by other mods, and there was a gentleperson's agreement between mod authors since there was no money in it.
Now there's money in it and I can make a paid mod that uses a bunch of free content provided by other mods.
*hugs*
I still think you're rad anyway
aren't valve taking like, 75% of the money tho
Their software is mediocre, their techsupport is atrocious. The VAC/account stealing rules is an abomination.
But their pricing structure combined with the trust they got as DRM and the fact that they were the first to give a crowd to the indie public essentially turned the entire industry around. Remember where the X1 and PS4 were heading before Sony hail mary'd with their "WE LOVE INDIES NOW" E3 presentation.
During the 360 there were only 6 (?) indie games allowed to be released per month, they had to pay huge fees for every patch.
And consider that in the current gaming climate, the AAA titles are becoming increasingly safe and samey, and most of the (imo) fun stuff are coming from at least 1 or 2 tiers below.
That's already exploded in Steam's face.
...ehhhhh
Yeah, i am pretty rad, i agree.
i mean, you're rad too.
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In my experience the Workshop was that way right from the start. I always found the good stuff either by trawling through the Nexus, or word of mouth in the Skyrim thread in G&T.
Show what the price for the mod is going to be, and show a "try" button, which does a pre-authorization of your card and let's you install the mod.
After 2 hours of in-game time, the game asks you if you want to keep the mod. If yes, your card is charged and you resume as normal. If no, your save is reverted to the point before the mod and the mod is deleted and cannot be given another trial unless a major point release happens (1.x to 2.x, not 1.1 to 1.2)
Let's play Mario Kart or something...