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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    edited November 2015
    I mostly think Bioware's storytelling is kind of rotten if we're being honest. Like, their background narrative is almost never what I'm playing the game for.

    They create some great characters though, and have them interact in interesting ways, and that's always where the big payoff is.

    Maddoc on
  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    actually one thing i like about DAI is i feel that the character interactions in your party are good

    one of the things i really dislike about bioware is that people really praise their characterizations, but to me, all these characters are just monologuing and that's really not interesting. getting characters bouncing off each other is great, and i think DAI did that more than i could remember any other game doing

    so i like that

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  • EndEnd Registered User regular
    I never beat DAI

    I kinda got off the rails with all the dragon killing and then lost interest

    I wish that someway, somehow, that I could save every one of us
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  • Cilla BlackCilla Black Priscilla!!! Registered User regular
    actually one thing i like about DAI is i feel that the character interactions in your party are good

    one of the things i really dislike about bioware is that people really praise their characterizations, but to me, all these characters are just monologuing and that's really not interesting. getting characters bouncing off each other is great, and i think DAI did that more than i could remember any other game doing

    so i like that

    ME3 did some great stuff with this too, but there wasn't as much as I'd like. DAI definitely had more.

  • WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    Also holy shit the end of halo 5 is bad. This is some DA2 tier shit

    Yeah OK sure

    But is it Halo 2 tier

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  • SCREECH OF THE FARGSCREECH OF THE FARG #1 PARROTHEAD margaritavilleRegistered User regular
    I think halo 2 had a better plot and a better boss fight yeah

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  • SCREECH OF THE FARGSCREECH OF THE FARG #1 PARROTHEAD margaritavilleRegistered User regular
    halo 5 rev team apparently thinks one hit kills and copy pasting the same fight 3 times is good design

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  • Cilla BlackCilla Black Priscilla!!! Registered User regular
    They sure do make pretty looking shit though.

  • TairuTairu Registered User regular
    edited November 2015
    I thoroughly enjoyed the combat of Dragon Age 2 and some of the companions but man they literally just reused the same dungeons over and over again

    Also I didn't like the direction they took with Anders

    Tairu on
  • SCREECH OF THE FARGSCREECH OF THE FARG #1 PARROTHEAD margaritavilleRegistered User regular
    They sure do make pretty looking shit though.

    read: Orange and blue

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  • WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    I think halo 2 had a better plot and a better boss fight yeah

    Oh you mean everything that counts as the ending as a package

    I just thought you meant everything that happens after the last shot is fired

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  • SCREECH OF THE FARGSCREECH OF THE FARG #1 PARROTHEAD margaritavilleRegistered User regular
    hm well that's different. in that way halo 2 is more "fuck you" and halo 5 is more "nothing happened, please buy halo 6"

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  • Cilla BlackCilla Black Priscilla!!! Registered User regular
    They sure do make pretty looking shit though.

    read: Orange and blue

    Yup

    I'm down with orange and blue

  • WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    Whenever I get to thinking about bad endings I get to thinking about Other M

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  • SCREECH OF THE FARGSCREECH OF THE FARG #1 PARROTHEAD margaritavilleRegistered User regular
    I mean orange and blue can look nice but I remember being a little exasperated with orange and blue circa ME2

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  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    I mostly think Bioware's storytelling is kind of rotten if we're being honest. Like, their background narrative is almost never what I'm playing the game for.

    They create some great characters though, and have them interact in interesting ways, and that's always where the big payoff is.

    yes i think differences in opinion about the quality of bioware games generally fall along which of these two you find more important in a game

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  • KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    edited November 2015
    Wyborn wrote: »
    Whenever I get to thinking about bad endings I get to thinking about Other M

    Fallout 3

    Kwoaru on
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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Wyborn wrote: »
    Whenever I get to thinking about bad endings I get to thinking about Other M

    It is shocking to me that anyone got to the end of Other M

  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    If you're gonna tell me that Halo 5 isn't a good looking game I don't even know man.

  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    hm well that's different. in that way halo 2 is more "fuck you" and halo 5 is more "nothing happened, please buy halo 6"

    this seems insane to me? Like the entire Halo universe is in a completely different state at the end of that game than it was at the beginning

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  • Der Waffle MousDer Waffle Mous Blame this on the misfortune of your birth. New Yark, New Yark.Registered User regular
    actually one thing i like about DAI is i feel that the character interactions in your party are good

    one of the things i really dislike about bioware is that people really praise their characterizations, but to me, all these characters are just monologuing and that's really not interesting. getting characters bouncing off each other is great, and i think DAI did that more than i could remember any other game doing

    so i like that

    This is a big part of why I'm enjoying the new characters in SWTOR.

    They actually interact with eachother.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User, Moderator mod
    I agree, people who don't like the things I like are pissbabys

    I'm not referring to everyone who doesn't like the game, I'm talking about the same kinds of people that did shit like "RETAKE MASS EFFECT" or whatever, like...you know, pissbabies. they're like pornography, you know a pissbaby when you see it

    man I almost got in an argument with someone about whether something qualified as pornography on this forum a little while ago
    ... at least I think I managed not to get into that argument, maybe I did and I forgot. I forget what the thing in question was.

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  • WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Wyborn wrote: »
    Whenever I get to thinking about bad endings I get to thinking about Other M

    It is shocking to me that anyone got to the end of Other M

    I wanted so badly for it to get better

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  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    I liked in Dragon Age 2 when you'd go visit a character and some of your other companions would just be there, hanging out with them. Bioware's starting to do a better job of letting you team interact, lately, and it's been pretty solid, I think.

  • WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    "Maybe it'll end strong," I said to myself, "maybe this is where it turns it all around" as Samus spends an escape sequence in the Zero suit running past enemies and carrying Adam's helmet under one arm

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  • EtchwartsEtchwarts Eyes Up Registered User regular
    Now, the Retake Mass Effect thing was a ridiculous overreaction for sure

    But there wasn't anyone exaggerating how bad that ending was, because holy SHIT was it bad

    I'm still excited for the new one, but for a while there I didn't even want to think about Mass Effect

    I still haven't played any of the DLC for 3

  • WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    Now, the Retake Mass Effect thing was a ridiculous overreaction for sure

    But there wasn't anyone exaggerating how bad that ending was, because holy SHIT was it bad

    I'm still excited for the new one, but for a while there I didn't even want to think about Mass Effect

    I still haven't played any of the DLC for 3

    The DLC for ME3 is arguably the strongest content BioWare has produced in the past 15 years

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  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    Wyborn wrote: »
    Now, the Retake Mass Effect thing was a ridiculous overreaction for sure

    But there wasn't anyone exaggerating how bad that ending was, because holy SHIT was it bad

    I'm still excited for the new one, but for a while there I didn't even want to think about Mass Effect

    I still haven't played any of the DLC for 3

    The DLC for ME3 is arguably the strongest content BioWare has produced in the past 15 years

    I think it's mostly arguable because they produced some really strong DLC in ME2, also. Lair of the Shadow Broker might be my favorite piece of DLC they've done, I think

  • EtchwartsEtchwarts Eyes Up Registered User regular
    Wyborn wrote: »
    Now, the Retake Mass Effect thing was a ridiculous overreaction for sure

    But there wasn't anyone exaggerating how bad that ending was, because holy SHIT was it bad

    I'm still excited for the new one, but for a while there I didn't even want to think about Mass Effect

    I still haven't played any of the DLC for 3

    The DLC for ME3 is arguably the strongest content BioWare has produced in the past 15 years

    ...well, shit.

    It'll be a good excuse for a replay of the whole trilogy!

  • captainkcaptaink TexasRegistered User regular
    Reminder that Bioware has still not produced a Mass Effect Trilogy or even a GOTY edition for 2 or 3. That is crazy.

  • WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    I was going to say the days of BioWare GOTY editions are long past but they sure as shit gave us an Inquisition GOTY quick, didn't they

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  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    Citadel is great
    I really liked Leviathan but not everybody does
    Omega was fun, if kinda uneven

  • Cilla BlackCilla Black Priscilla!!! Registered User regular
    Oh.my.god Alexis what even isbthat

  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    leviathan tried to improve the ending but fundamentally misunderstood what was wrong with it

    omega is fine but it feels kind of dumb to give a shit about a garbage little space station when trillions of lives are at stake

    citadel's great but has a similar issue

    that's the problem when you ratchet the stakes up as high as ME3 does, any kind of pause or downtime feels like nonsense because every second you waste is another million people dead

  • Cilla BlackCilla Black Priscilla!!! Registered User regular
    I'd have that problem if I played the DLC during the game.itself

    But I played them after

    So I'd already saved the world, albeit not in-game.

    It was not a problem.

  • WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    leviathan tried to improve the ending but fundamentally misunderstood what was wrong with it

    omega is fine but it feels kind of dumb to give a shit about a garbage little space station when trillions of lives are at stake

    citadel's great but has a similar issue

    that's the problem when you ratchet the stakes up as high as ME3 does, any kind of pause or downtime feels like nonsense because every second you waste is another million people dead

    For a lot of people Leviathan was a laser-guided balm on those wounds

    In terms of content I'd say that Leviathan, Citadel, and (people will disagree with me here) Omega are all top tier in terms of stuff BioWare has made. It doesn't get much better than that stuff

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    Man

    I love this tune, it might be my favorite rendition of Mass Effect's best tune (that isn't Leaving Earth)

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User, Moderator mod
    the drawful on the GB stream is pretty great

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    Citadel is amazing DLC to have for your first playthrough of Mass Effect 3, I think, because it's such a breath of fresh good after the really shitty stuff that goes down before it's accessible.

    And then for the rest of the game you will head back to the Citadel after every single mission to have a little cooldown with one of your squadmates because it's important to de-stress even in the worst of times.

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    For the record, they totally did do a Trilogy collection for the last generation of consoles.

    They just haven't for the new ones and they've said they have no intention to, as they'd rather focus on making new content and also would rather not farm it out to another studio.

    Which, like, I'd absolutely buy it if they did and replay them for the billionth time but as far as reasons go that's a pretty respectable one.

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    For the record, they totally did do a Trilogy collection for the last generation of consoles.

    Yes but they didn't include all the DLC, is the point captaink was getting at

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