Advance is +150% Attack, Planet Protector is +50%. The most Cloud will do is 9999x3 if impeccably geared; you can do that much damage in a few retaliated activations of Double Cut. There's really no alternative to Advance for an Advantaliate strategy.
Fabul Castle normal stage 1 is 1 stamina, one wave with two enemies. Run that to reset your RW list. If you haven't got enough people with Advance on it, go here to find some more.
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Definitely bring Protectga, and maybe even Drawtaliate, for Yunalesca. Her attack eats buffs.
Advance is 150%, PP is 50%. You can cycle RWs by running the first stage of Fabul Castle for 1 stamina. There are several people with Advance as a RW who post on PA, plus there's a spreadsheet on ffrk Reddit with friend codes.
Also, it's Power black Tuesday, drop everything that can wait a day and get in there. Best way to strengthen your team. 12 more MPOs and I can complete the stupid quests in my log.
Yeah... I don't think I'm gonna get this done with a Retaliate strategy. I did better with just a standard balanced party of magic, healers, physical and all that. Of course, I only got Expert with that. But I'm not even finishing with Retaliate. I cycled my RW list and got Advance. With Advance up Auron is hitting for about 5500 per attack. But I'm also unable to complete the battle. At around 20%, she casts a move that is confusing my whole party, and it does a whole bunch of damage too. More than I can handle.
I dunno what I'm gonna do for the 140 Yunalesca.
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It doesn't matter what your party is if she AoE confuses you. Hope she does Hellbiter right after.
The problem is, the fight has run long enough that by the time she hits me with that AoE confuse nuke, it usually kills a couple people. It hits hard and I'm not sure if it's physical or magic. I've been refreshing my Shellga and Protectga during phase 2, but by the time phase 3 rolls around people are still pretty low.
I think I may just call exdeath a bust. I'd like to get Ricard's RM to prep for Yunalesca, so I may just focus on getting that, then doing the FFX event.
The only advice I can give if you don't have a native SG/SS2 like me is to try a triple black mage party since you don't have advance on Cloud anyway.
I did need 3 R4 and 1 R3 'ja spell, but i also didn't have great soul breaks on my casters.
I don't have enough orbs for that, unfortunately. I've only got 1 R3, and 2 R2s. I don't even have Blizzaja crafted yet. Which is a shame, because with a 74 Rinoa, 65 Vivi and 65 Lulu, my Black Mage game is strong.
Maybe if you manage to squeeze Mana's Paean in there somehow you can make 'Ga spells work as well. I didn't have use any +mag buffs in my run.
Rats only expert on Exdeath (Ultimate), didn't get lucky with a blizzard reflect, ah well, I'll take the accessory and the completion orbs and maybe try again a bit later today.
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The problem is, the fight has run long enough that by the time she hits me with that AoE confuse nuke, it usually kills a couple people. It hits hard and I'm not sure if it's physical or magic. I've been refreshing my Shellga and Protectga during phase 2, but by the time phase 3 rolls around people are still pretty low.
It's Magic; the problem is anyone she hits with her basic attack gets haste/protect/shell wiped off.
Man, the Red Dragons in Tuesdaily+ are no joke. My level 59 Rinoa with a mastered Cardinal that has +7 Augment still needs a +MAG% RM to one-shot them with Ruinga.
I see you guys talking about Ruinaga quite a bit. I only have it at rank 1, so I only have two casts. But I'm not impressed by it. I know it's non-elemental so Null/Resist isn't as big of an issue. But the damage seems pretty terrible. I'd rather just pack my Quake spell and then single-target burst anything that lives through the quake.
But yeah, those dragons are no joke. Their AoE flare skill is nasty.
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Basically same as others have run but since my synergy was not very good I decided to equip The Candle Rod on Lenna, and Esthar Bracers on Y'shtola to give them both some AoE heals. That plus the Regen on Lenna kept my HP up with some spot heals from Y'shtola now and again on big single target hits.
On my first kill I took Magic Breakdown instead of Fullbreak but the rest of the mitigation was solid enough I felt that losing the 18% was worth the increase in damage I got from having his Armor broken a bit. Plus it also lessened the physical hits a bit more.
As a plus he also dropped a Major Dark Orb!
Pics below:
final shot there is Cloud about to use Blade Beam just to make sure. I had to hold out an extra turn for Exdeath to use Blizzard for the win condition.
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Lucascraft you might want to spend a few minutes flipping through http://happypluto.com/~misterp/r/ffrk.pdf; it has a lot of useful info about ability multipliers, percentages and durations.
Been farming Tuesdaily+ all day, so far I've gotten 2 Major Power Orbs and a decent scattering of greaters. This would absolutely suck without my Rinoa + Ruinga, though.
Since there's three hours left until he disappears, I'm considering whether or not I should take on Ultimate Exdeath. My 4* abilities and hones are still pretty nonexistent DPS wise, so it would absolutely have to be with a Lureflect strat, and probably an advantaliate or draw-vantaliate on top of that. I don't have Full Break yet, and I'd have to craft Magic Lure which would take precious 4* orbs I'd rather use to make and hone other skills right now.
I do have great FFV synergy gear, so it's not totally out of the question, but with only Steal Power and Magic Breakdown (and Protectga/Shellga) and no natural Wall, I feel like he'd rip me to shreds if he did even a few AoEs. I don't even know if I'd have all the ability slots I need, and I don't have Double Attack RM or either of the start-with-an-SB-bar RM yet.
Seven Major Orbs would be worth the investment, but I feel like I'd only get the First Time rewards if that. I think I'm going to let it go.
@Rius I just did Ultimate ExDeath and got Mastery (my second kill, first one he killed people right before the last attack costing me Mastery)
My setup was below.
P Cecil lvl 65 with Protectga (Rank 2) and Magic Lure (Rank 2). Double Hit RM on him. I only needed Rank 1 Magic Lure but I was being cautious.
Tyro lvl 65 with Double Cut (Rank 5) and Magic Breakdown (Rank 2). Haste RM. He does NOT have Sentinel's Grimoire.
Cloud lvl 69 with Tempo Flurry (Rank 5) and Retaliate (Rank 5). He was using Kotetsu (Gilgamesh's Sword) a Thornlet (5 star hat from FF5) and Omega Badge (5 star accessory). He had Katana Master as his RM.
Lenna lvl 55 with Shellga (Rank 2) and Renewing Cure (Rank 5). Dr. Mog's Teachings as her RM. Main thing here was having an AoE Heal for a SB option. I used a Healing Rod from FF9.
Celes lvl 55 with Double Cut (Rank 4) and Reflect (Rank 2). Haste RM. She only needed one use of Reflect so Rank 1 would've been fine.
I only mention Cloud and Lenna's equipment as the rest was basically useless. I loaded them with as much RES as I could find as his magic hurt with just Shellga and Magic Breakdown.
I should've swapped my Double Cuts since Tyro has to use Magic Breakdown and Celes only has to cast reflect once.
I used Advance as my RW.
Cloud was hitting for around 6k per hit from the retaliates. I think Lenna could've gotten by WITHOUT Dr. Mog's Teachings and using Curaga or Curaja instead. The regen does almost nothing from Renewing Cure and she needed more heal output. Lenna charged one SB by herself and had the one from the RM but I only used one. The fight was a decent amount of S/L in phase 1 due to his usage of AoEs and Dispel.
You have to make sure Ice, Fire, and Thunder get reflected. You'll loose 2 dmg medals and 1 actions medal most likely doing this so you can't afford to not meet the other criteria if you want Mastery.
If I would've had a native Wall, or Haste/Protect/Shell relic it would've been a lot easier, but it's doable with just the spells and an AoE Heal relic. It just takes time and some S/L.
Ultimate Yunalesca down and Mastered! Either I was much luckier or she's considerably easier than ex death. MindBlast is the new dispell but can be much more recoverable depending on her next actions and who gets confused.
Held off on SG till the second phase but got taunadvatalate up as soon as possible. Holy is about the only tank buster attack and I only saw that come up thrice. MindBlast hit Gili, Yuna and Celes and Tyro was blind. Absorb woke up Celes who woke up Yuna by luck and Sazh got Gili up.
Not sure if confuse resets ret, the ready animation was gone but it was simple to get that up and running again. Also not sure how close it was to holy-all when she fell but I only saw two megadeaths.
One medal lost on actions and another on damage. A lot of good X defensive gear was used and a 5* X Dagger. Def is nice but Res is critical for surviving holy.
Got Wakka's MC2, don't feel like beating my head against +++ or Ult, so I'm trying to get caught up with dungeons. I uh, just unlocked Gaulf, to give an idea of how far back I am. Fortunately I have all characters / MC / MC2s released so far, but I fear that in the future they're going to start requiring you master the dungeons for the MC2s, so I'm trying to get gud, fast.
Ultimate Yunalesca down and Mastered! Either I was much luckier or she's considerably easier than ex death. MindBlast is the new dispell but can be much more recoverable depending on her next actions and who gets confused.
Held off on SG till the second phase but got taunadvatalate up as soon as possible. Holy is about the only tank buster attack and I only saw that come up thrice. MindBlast hit Gili, Yuna and Celes and Tyro was blind. Absorb woke up Celes who woke up Yuna by luck and Sazh got Gili up.
Not sure if confuse resets ret, the ready animation was gone but it was simple to get that up and running again. Also not sure how close it was to holy-all when she fell but I only saw two megadeaths.
One medal lost on actions and another on damage. A lot of good X defensive gear was used and a 5* X Dagger. Def is nice but Res is critical for surviving holy.
I found her a lot easier. I went in without Tyro (so Y'shtola couldn't Medica) and loaded up with Magic Breaks (which are useless, and I knew that, and I'm an idiot) and I still got her on the second try. I didn't taunt, and I'm not sure it would it have made it a lot easier. It feels like Holy is the big fuck you of this battle.
Ultimate Yunalesca down and Mastered! Either I was much luckier or she's considerably easier than ex death. MindBlast is the new dispell but can be much more recoverable depending on her next actions and who gets confused.
Held off on SG till the second phase but got taunadvatalate up as soon as possible. Holy is about the only tank buster attack and I only saw that come up thrice. MindBlast hit Gili, Yuna and Celes and Tyro was blind. Absorb woke up Celes who woke up Yuna by luck and Sazh got Gili up.
Not sure if confuse resets ret, the ready animation was gone but it was simple to get that up and running again. Also not sure how close it was to holy-all when she fell but I only saw two megadeaths.
One medal lost on actions and another on damage. A lot of good X defensive gear was used and a 5* X Dagger. Def is nice but Res is critical for surviving holy.
I found her a lot easier. I went in without Tyro (so Y'shtola couldn't Medica) and loaded up with Magic Breaks (which are useless, and I knew that, and I'm an idiot) and I still got her on the second try. I didn't taunt, and I'm not sure it would it have made it a lot easier. It feels like Holy is the big fuck you of this battle.
As I understand it the main issue with her single target attacks is the dispell attached to them. Holy is the big check, I had great stuff and it was still taking off 1/2 the hp bar with SG and Shell up. Osmosis I imagine will be the greatest threat for most people hence the double cures. I was down to my last retaliate due to losing several and all out of double hit attacks. For added protection I could have gone with a back up samurai in Celes' place.
Pushing hard for U. ExDeath; I've done one mythril revive and that's all I'm willing to spend. 38 minutes to try and nail him; I can get to 50% pretty consistently if he doesn't go nuts with the AoE. I had one run with triple vacuum wave =/
Ha, I should have figured that. I just lost to him at 45% after I didn't quite get Reflect up and he triple actioned. And then he did double AoEs and I didn't think to S/L. Ooh well!
Wound up doing a second mythril revive earlier, but my two bonuses were HP and Abilities. Could have used defense or damage in place of Abilities =(
Didn't expend much; two mythril and the orbs to make Lure Magic.
That Thunder Rod from FFVI + Terra + Ruinga means Tuesdaily+ is suuuuuper easy.
I am no longer upset that I pulled that Rod.
Isn't Tuesdaily FFIV synergy though?
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Man, tomorrow I'll be starting up Dungeon Updates again after a long time, and I am not looking forward to it. Getting through trash is by far the most miserable part of the game.
Man, I wanted to use the MGEs I got from the + event to boost Ricard so I could more easily get his awesome RM. It's the last 'must have' that I need other than things like Tyro's RM3. But I guess Rikku surviving is pretty important to these bonus battles? So I'm taking her instead. Meh. I guess I have another sundaily to get them both at reasonable levels
I actually had one rosetta stone left over, I forgot how many were given out over the new year until today's login reward. I also just finished the bonus battles so I have 2.
now I wonder if farming defender Z is objectively better than A) doing the daily for lightning orbs or finishing elites.
I actually had one rosetta stone left over, I forgot how many were given out over the new year until today's login reward. I also just finished the bonus battles so I have 2.
now I wonder if farming defender Z is objectively better than A) doing the daily for lightning orbs or finishing elites.
I saw this and wondered if I had any I had forgotten about. I had 5. 5 Rosetta stones just chilling. Thank you for reminding me I am dumb.
Unfortunately, Masamune has the two spare stones. I put them there a long time ago. But I'll get the one I need from the end of this event, working through elites.
Discount Single Pull got me Warrior's Bracer, with Protectga SB. Love bracers and helms. This one allows me to run Noble's Armguard/Crystal Helm++/Warrior Bracer across 3 mans. All the attacks.
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I think Advance is 200, and Planet Protector is 150.
I use Planet Protector if I happen to have several characters with physical, multi-target or multi-hit SSBs, or if spellblades are the answer.
Fabul Castle normal stage 1 is 1 stamina, one wave with two enemies. Run that to reset your RW list. If you haven't got enough people with Advance on it, go here to find some more.
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Advance is 150%, PP is 50%. You can cycle RWs by running the first stage of Fabul Castle for 1 stamina. There are several people with Advance as a RW who post on PA, plus there's a spreadsheet on ffrk Reddit with friend codes.
Also, it's Power black Tuesday, drop everything that can wait a day and get in there. Best way to strengthen your team. 12 more MPOs and I can complete the stupid quests in my log.
I dunno what I'm gonna do for the 140 Yunalesca.
Maybe if you manage to squeeze Mana's Paean in there somehow you can make 'Ga spells work as well. I didn't have use any +mag buffs in my run.
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... 4 star item...
Yep, it's a normal Tuesday.
It's Magic; the problem is anyone she hits with her basic attack gets haste/protect/shell wiped off.
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But yeah, those dragons are no joke. Their AoE flare skill is nasty.
Party comp:
Cloud (78): Tempo Flurry R5 / Retaliate R5 (Self Sacrifice)
Lenna (51): Protectga R2 / Reflect R2 (Double hit)
Y'shtola (64): Shellga R2 / Curaga R5 (Oath of Tycoon)
Tyro (65): Magic Lure R1 / Double Cut R3 (Dr. Mog's Teachings)
Red XIII (51): Full Break R1 / Double Cut R4 (Thief's Code)
RW: Advance
Basically same as others have run but since my synergy was not very good I decided to equip The Candle Rod on Lenna, and Esthar Bracers on Y'shtola to give them both some AoE heals. That plus the Regen on Lenna kept my HP up with some spot heals from Y'shtola now and again on big single target hits.
On my first kill I took Magic Breakdown instead of Fullbreak but the rest of the mitigation was solid enough I felt that losing the 18% was worth the increase in damage I got from having his Armor broken a bit. Plus it also lessened the physical hits a bit more.
As a plus he also dropped a Major Dark Orb!
Pics below:
final shot there is Cloud about to use Blade Beam just to make sure. I had to hold out an extra turn for Exdeath to use Blizzard for the win condition.
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Lucascraft you might want to spend a few minutes flipping through http://happypluto.com/~misterp/r/ffrk.pdf; it has a lot of useful info about ability multipliers, percentages and durations.
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Phew.
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I am no longer upset that I pulled that Rod.
Isn't Tuesdaily FFIV synergy though?
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I do have great FFV synergy gear, so it's not totally out of the question, but with only Steal Power and Magic Breakdown (and Protectga/Shellga) and no natural Wall, I feel like he'd rip me to shreds if he did even a few AoEs. I don't even know if I'd have all the ability slots I need, and I don't have Double Attack RM or either of the start-with-an-SB-bar RM yet.
Seven Major Orbs would be worth the investment, but I feel like I'd only get the First Time rewards if that. I think I'm going to let it go.
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My setup was below.
P Cecil lvl 65 with Protectga (Rank 2) and Magic Lure (Rank 2). Double Hit RM on him. I only needed Rank 1 Magic Lure but I was being cautious.
Tyro lvl 65 with Double Cut (Rank 5) and Magic Breakdown (Rank 2). Haste RM. He does NOT have Sentinel's Grimoire.
Cloud lvl 69 with Tempo Flurry (Rank 5) and Retaliate (Rank 5). He was using Kotetsu (Gilgamesh's Sword) a Thornlet (5 star hat from FF5) and Omega Badge (5 star accessory). He had Katana Master as his RM.
Lenna lvl 55 with Shellga (Rank 2) and Renewing Cure (Rank 5). Dr. Mog's Teachings as her RM. Main thing here was having an AoE Heal for a SB option. I used a Healing Rod from FF9.
Celes lvl 55 with Double Cut (Rank 4) and Reflect (Rank 2). Haste RM. She only needed one use of Reflect so Rank 1 would've been fine.
I only mention Cloud and Lenna's equipment as the rest was basically useless. I loaded them with as much RES as I could find as his magic hurt with just Shellga and Magic Breakdown.
I should've swapped my Double Cuts since Tyro has to use Magic Breakdown and Celes only has to cast reflect once.
I used Advance as my RW.
Cloud was hitting for around 6k per hit from the retaliates. I think Lenna could've gotten by WITHOUT Dr. Mog's Teachings and using Curaga or Curaja instead. The regen does almost nothing from Renewing Cure and she needed more heal output. Lenna charged one SB by herself and had the one from the RM but I only used one. The fight was a decent amount of S/L in phase 1 due to his usage of AoEs and Dispel.
You have to make sure Ice, Fire, and Thunder get reflected. You'll loose 2 dmg medals and 1 actions medal most likely doing this so you can't afford to not meet the other criteria if you want Mastery.
If I would've had a native Wall, or Haste/Protect/Shell relic it would've been a lot easier, but it's doable with just the spells and an AoE Heal relic. It just takes time and some S/L.
Gilgamesh (draw fire/retaliate) Dragoons Determination
Celes (Firaga blade/double strike) Zeal
Tyro (protectaga/Tempo mcflurry) Dr. Mog advice[SG]
Yuna (Curaga/curaja) double hit
Sazh (Full break/armor break) Mako might [Boon]
RW advance
Held off on SG till the second phase but got taunadvatalate up as soon as possible. Holy is about the only tank buster attack and I only saw that come up thrice. MindBlast hit Gili, Yuna and Celes and Tyro was blind. Absorb woke up Celes who woke up Yuna by luck and Sazh got Gili up.
Not sure if confuse resets ret, the ready animation was gone but it was simple to get that up and running again. Also not sure how close it was to holy-all when she fell but I only saw two megadeaths.
One medal lost on actions and another on damage. A lot of good X defensive gear was used and a 5* X Dagger. Def is nice but Res is critical for surviving holy.
Got Wakka's MC2, don't feel like beating my head against +++ or Ult, so I'm trying to get caught up with dungeons. I uh, just unlocked Gaulf, to give an idea of how far back I am. Fortunately I have all characters / MC / MC2s released so far, but I fear that in the future they're going to start requiring you master the dungeons for the MC2s, so I'm trying to get gud, fast.
I found her a lot easier. I went in without Tyro (so Y'shtola couldn't Medica) and loaded up with Magic Breaks (which are useless, and I knew that, and I'm an idiot) and I still got her on the second try. I didn't taunt, and I'm not sure it would it have made it a lot easier. It feels like Holy is the big fuck you of this battle.
As I understand it the main issue with her single target attacks is the dispell attached to them. Holy is the big check, I had great stuff and it was still taking off 1/2 the hp bar with SG and Shell up. Osmosis I imagine will be the greatest threat for most people hence the double cures. I was down to my last retaliate due to losing several and all out of double hit attacks. For added protection I could have gone with a back up samurai in Celes' place.
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What team are you in with?
Wound up doing a second mythril revive earlier, but my two bonuses were HP and Abilities. Could have used defense or damage in place of Abilities =(
Didn't expend much; two mythril and the orbs to make Lure Magic.
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Whoops meant IV. I also have Rydia's whip. tuesdaily.
now I wonder if farming defender Z is objectively better than A) doing the daily for lightning orbs or finishing elites.
I saw this and wondered if I had any I had forgotten about. I had 5. 5 Rosetta stones just chilling. Thank you for reminding me I am dumb.
Discount Single Pull got me Warrior's Bracer, with Protectga SB. Love bracers and helms. This one allows me to run Noble's Armguard/Crystal Helm++/Warrior Bracer across 3 mans. All the attacks.