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    StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    Bury me in anime-trash gachas

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    JarsJars Registered User regular
    let me tell you about a game that has six star units with a .5% gacha rate

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Instead we can talk about how Fate/Grand Order is getting an English release this summer!

    Hope you like your 1 percent gacha rates for 5 stars!

    I am still plugging away at FFBE

    So apparently I do

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    OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    Stilts wrote: »
    Bury me in anime-trash gachas

    Just figure out how to live in an app store and your wish can be granted.

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    I really just want Zhuge Liang because for some reason it's just grown up Waver Velvet?

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    WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    For real though it's cool it's coming over because it means it could open the door for some of the other big gachas to comes out west*

    Do we know if it's simultaneous or if it'll be on a delay from jp like most gachas

    *except granblue obviously

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    edited April 2017
    For real though it's cool it's coming over because it means it could open the door for some of the other big gachas to comes out west*

    Do we know if it's simultaneous or if it'll be on a delay from jp like most gachas

    *except granblue obviously

    It'll be on a delay because they want the English audience to experience it the same way the JP players did, is the reasoning

    Quality of life improvements will reportedly be in from day one, however, so it's just a content delay

    Maddoc on
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    WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Instead we can talk about how Fate/Grand Order is getting an English release this summer!

    Hope you like your 1 percent gacha rates for 5 stars!

    I am still plugging away at FFBE

    So apparently I do

    be is one of the ones I rotate in regularly

    My permanent staples are granblue and super sentai legend wars

    Currently also have ensemble stars, kamen rider battle rush and ffrk installed

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    StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Instead we can talk about how Fate/Grand Order is getting an English release this summer!

    Hope you like your 1 percent gacha rates for 5 stars!

    I am still plugging away at FFBE

    So apparently I do

    God, FFBE used to be so much worse, too

    Cuz at first that was just a 1% rate for a 5* crystal, not a 5* unit

    So you could see that rainbow and get excited only to be rewarded with a 3* unit that was just fully awakened.

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    WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    For real though it's cool it's coming over because it means it could open the door for some of the other big gachas to comes out west*

    Do we know if it's simultaneous or if it'll be on a delay from jp like most gachas

    *except granblue obviously

    It'll be on a delay because they want the English audience to experience it the same way the JP players did, is the reasoning

    Quality of life improvements will reportedly be in from day one, however, so it's just a content delay

    That seems sensible

    It couldn't work with granblue though because of the licensing stuff: at some point they wouldn't be able to license something and there'd just be a gap in the game

    Which can't really happen

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    StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    Honestly, I would have dropped BE long ago if a) Rikku wasn't an S-tier character in JP and b) it didn't have a friend system that can carry you.

    But since I can just save up stupid amounts of tickets and get carried by whales, I can just wait for the best moments to draw for a power boost.

    The Trust Mastery system is super dumb, though, and is only a reasonable investment of time if you can set up a macro on an emulator.

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Localization seems a little wonky though because apparently they have to pass all the names by the Japanese team

    So Artoria ended up as Altria?

    They've also confirmed that it'll be Japanese voices with subtitles in the English release.

    They also did something kind of interesting and acknowledged how many English players are playing the JP version, saying that version transfers wouldn't be possible, but that there wouldn't be any sorts of bans going out to US and Canadian IPs on the JP version.

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    WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    Stilts wrote: »
    Honestly, I would have dropped BE long ago if a) Rikku wasn't an S-tier character in JP and b) it didn't have a friend system that can carry you.

    But since I can just save up stupid amounts of tickets and get carried by whales, I can just wait for the best moments to draw for a power boost.

    The Trust Mastery system is super dumb, though, and is only a reasonable investment of time if you can set up a macro on an emulator.

    Like many gacha systems it's a cute idea carried to a tedious exploitative extreme

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    IronKnuckle's GhostIronKnuckle's Ghost Registered User regular
    Who do I write to to tell them about my idea for a slot machine hero collector featuring heroes that are all bird themed? A Gatchaman Gachapon?

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    AistanAistan Tiny Bat Registered User regular
    I know it's just linguistic happenstance but I really like that gacha sounds like the english word "gotcha" ie. "haha I tricked you". It's the perfect onomatopoeia. Being tricked into endlessly turning a crank.

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    StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    I really just want Zhuge Liang because for some reason it's just grown up Waver Velvet?

    I actually looked this up on the Type-Moon wiki cuz I couldn't figure out how the hell that worked.

    And then I asked my best friend who loves the Nasuverse because reading the wiki just made me confused in a different way.

    I'm still not sure I understand it.

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Stilts wrote: »
    Maddoc wrote: »
    I really just want Zhuge Liang because for some reason it's just grown up Waver Velvet?

    I actually looked this up on the Type-Moon wiki cuz I couldn't figure out how the hell that worked.

    And then I asked my best friend who loves the Nasuverse because reading the wiki just made me confused in a different way.

    I'm still not sure I understand it.

    I mean, heroic spirits are weird, I guess?

    But also Waver Velvet is rad

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    PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Localization seems a little wonky though because apparently they have to pass all the names by the Japanese team

    So Artoria ended up as Altria?

    They've also confirmed that it'll be Japanese voices with subtitles in the English release.

    They also did something kind of interesting and acknowledged how many English players are playing the JP version, saying that version transfers wouldn't be possible, but that there wouldn't be any sorts of bans going out to US and Canadian IPs on the JP version.

    ...They mangled the name of the main character? That's been localized multiple times already?

    How?

    Steam: Polaritie
    3DS: 0473-8507-2652
    Switch: SW-5185-4991-5118
    PSN: AbEntropy
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    StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Stilts wrote: »
    Maddoc wrote: »
    I really just want Zhuge Liang because for some reason it's just grown up Waver Velvet?

    I actually looked this up on the Type-Moon wiki cuz I couldn't figure out how the hell that worked.

    And then I asked my best friend who loves the Nasuverse because reading the wiki just made me confused in a different way.

    I'm still not sure I understand it.

    I mean, heroic spirits are weird, I guess?

    But also Waver Velvet is rad

    Yeah, Waver is great, and his bromance with Iskandar is the greatest.

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    WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    I'm always vaguely interested in type moon stuff but every big fate fan I know of is the kinda anime dork I want to avoid at all costs

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    turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
    If gacha games weren't FTP I'd probably like a few of them a bunch.

    But I always start them and enjoy them until I hit the grind and then go do something that respects my time more.

    Give me like a Puzzle and Dragons Z for Granblue or something.

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    WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    Every big fate fan I have ever known is the kinda dude who complains about missing vagina bones

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    StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    I'm always vaguely interested in type moon stuff but every big fate fan I know of is the kinda anime dork I want to avoid at all costs

    I'm very much a casual Type Moon guy

    There's plenty of stuff I dig about it, but also just as much I avoid because it can get pretty dumb

    I watched one episode of the magical girl AU

    Never again

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    TransporterTransporter Registered User regular
    Every big fate fan I have ever known is the kinda dude who complains about missing vagina bones

    YEP that sounds about right.

    I too am a Type Moon mark but don't really kick it around for the same reasons.

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    ThetherooThetheroo Registered User regular
    Why is there no SMT gacha game? You'd think it would be good for it because of all the demons.

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    WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    turtleant wrote: »
    If gacha games weren't FTP I'd probably like a few of them a bunch.

    But I always start them and enjoy them until I hit the grind and then go do something that respects my time more.

    Give me like a Puzzle and Dragons Z for Granblue or something.

    See I wanted to like padz but couldn't find it compelling at all

    The long term draw of gacha games isn't the f2p stuff: that's the way they get bursts of population

    The constant cycle of events and addition of new content to shake up the meta is what makes them interesting, I found a static version of that to be very dry

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    So another bit is that while the 5* rate is 1%

    The 4% rate is also only 3%

    Because so much of the gacha table is taken up by "Craft Essence", which is basically equipment

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    I generally love the non-fucking parts of Type Moon's characters and world building, and their weird metaphysical concepts

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    WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    So another bit is that while the 5* rate is 1%

    The 4% rate is also only 3%

    Because so much of the gacha table is taken up by "Craft Essence", which is basically equipment

    I have very little time for that, and generally don't like gachas that use equipment in their gachas period

    I just want new kids

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    edited April 2017
    I still look forward to drawing new characters in Granblue even though realistically speaking I could never draw another character and be totally fine

    (I'm also up to 165 draws saved up out of 300)

    Maddoc on
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    WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    Thetheroo wrote: »
    Why is there no SMT gacha game? You'd think it would be good for it because of all the demons.

    To make a guess: that's a game that would be loaded off on sega's burgeoning mobile division and subsidiaries, most of whom are occupied

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    SCREECH OF THE FARGSCREECH OF THE FARG #1 PARROTHEAD margaritavilleRegistered User regular
    i got a fully kitted out OK and TGCid from the ffrk event, its good

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    WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    Considering their troubled history with consoles it's hard to overstate how well Sega has done in the mobile space

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    ArtereisArtereis Registered User regular
    I only have time for Brave Exvius, FFRK and PAD, with the latter two getting considerably smaller cuts as time goes on. I play GBF every couple of months and then take time off again. I also keep a game called Blazing Odyssey on my phone, but I only collect the login bonuses and pull when I can because the game's art style is pretty cool. It also seems to have no global community despite my searching so I have no idea if anyone I pull is any good or if the game has different roles per character or how to play.

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    JarsJars Registered User regular
    Thetheroo wrote: »
    Why is there no SMT gacha game? You'd think it would be good for it because of all the demons.

    I think most people are more willing to pay for waifus than penis chariots. maybe not people here, but elsewhere

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    DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    I can't really get into Gacha cause I have yet to play one with gameplay I liked...

    Hmmm except for that one Mistwalker game I guess but I lost my original account.

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    When they started introducing new rarity levels and DNA recode shit in Terra Battle is about where I stopped

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    WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    Considering their troubled history with consoles it's hard to overstate how well Sega has done in the mobile space

    I'm kind of curious what the revenue streams of console/PC/handheld gaming pull in for them as compared to mobile; their mobile division has to be real strong, even with them having some significant hits on other platforms

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    WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    Wyborn wrote: »
    Considering their troubled history with consoles it's hard to overstate how well Sega has done in the mobile space

    I'm kind of curious what the revenue streams of console/PC/handheld gaming pull in for them as compared to mobile; their mobile division has to be real strong, even with them having some significant hits on other platforms

    I mean

    They own the idolm@ster franchise, which had made 10 billion yen as of four years ago and is even bigger now

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    JarsJars Registered User regular
    edited April 2017
    Dragkonias wrote: »
    I can't really get into Gacha cause I have yet to play one with gameplay I liked...

    Hmmm except for that one Mistwalker game I guess but I lost my original account.

    the only gacha game I have stuck with actually has no gameplay, which made it easier to stick with because you don't get bored of the mechanics. long on, let it run, and you're good.

    Jars on
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