Also, the Euron fight scenes pissed me off because everything was so dark and blurry that I kept thinking Euron had gotten stabbed/slashed/whipped/impaled and getting all exccited that he'd bitten it that quickly only to discover Nope! That Was Random Pirate #32.
While I'm casting aspersions: I'm sure no one tried a ballista before against dragons. What an innovation!
There was lots of good in this episode but also some just silly stuff. Usually the stuff that wasn't character focused.
Could ballista be a new weapon in the show universe? Have we seen one before?
Because otherwise, yeah: their relative effectiveness should be well established in Westeros.
The Night's Watch used one against the Wildlings. It killed one of the giants. I'm not sure how common they are elsewhere though. In our history, ballistae went by the wayside during the feudal era after having been a big deal in the classical era before the fall of Rome due to loss of knowledge and resources to build and maintain the things. Various forms of catapult that were easier to make and maintain gained in popularity. It's not impossible for it to be a bit of lost tech in Westeros as well with the Watch only having one because it's so damn old and they have to make things last up there.
It's also possible the King's Landing engineers came up with a smaller, more aimable ballista capable of piercing dragon bone where previous incarnations where harder to target and/or couldn't get through a dragon's armor.
As someone pointed out before they have chains on them to prevent stealing. It was a common medieval practice. The chains can be unlocked too. The books can be taken out as long as a person signs it out.
None of the chains appeared attached to the books, and Sam does not reattach a single one when reshelving them, though.
Tis a bit puzzling.
Given that 'prentice Sam isn't trusted enough to have unfettered access to the library, why would he be given the keys to the book chains so that he could reshelve the chained ones?
Plainly, as the lowly sot he is, he's only allowed to reshelve the books that don't warrant chaining up. Some Upper librarian probably gets to shelve the chained ones.
Then why are there chains all over the shelves he's working on anyway if the books aren't important enough to chain up
Look I demand logical answers here, prop department plz
While I'm casting aspersions: I'm sure no one tried a ballista before against dragons. What an innovation!
There was lots of good in this episode but also some just silly stuff. Usually the stuff that wasn't character focused.
Could ballista be a new weapon in the show universe? Have we seen one before?
Because otherwise, yeah: their relative effectiveness should be well established in Westeros.
There are also practical issues. Hard to hit a moving target in the air that is breathing fire with one of those things. Unless Viserion just hangs out in front of one for a while so they can get him.
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One thing I liked that is a change from the books
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Instead of Lady WhoGivesAShit making sure Ned's bones never make it home, we get show confirmation that his remains are now in Winterfell.
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Sam never has to re-chain a book because the chained books are all chained.
Assuming they're not chained based on content (since they have a locked section of the library) my guess would be that they're chained based on price. Books with extensive illustration or reference books which basically serve as an index for the rest of the library might be chained in place because the maesters don't want to have to replace them.
Sam never has to re-chain a book because the chained books are all chained.
Assuming they're not chained based on content (since they have a locked section of the library) my guess would be that they're chained based on price. Books with extensive illustration or reference books which basically serve as an index for the rest of the library might be chained in place because the maesters don't want to have to replace them.
I again did not see a chain attached to a book in the episode. I was looking!
Sam never has to re-chain a book because the chained books are all chained.
Assuming they're not chained based on content (since they have a locked section of the library) my guess would be that they're chained based on price. Books with extensive illustration or reference books which basically serve as an index for the rest of the library might be chained in place because the maesters don't want to have to replace them.
I again did not see a chain attached to a book in the episode. I was looking!
I've looked but couldn't tell. I can see where the chains attach to the shelves but can't tell where they end up.
Maybe they're actually just super-thematic bookmarks. If you're in the library reading and you want to mark your place, you grab a chained bookmark and stick it there. Maesters, chains, etc.
Sam never has to re-chain a book because the chained books are all chained.
Assuming they're not chained based on content (since they have a locked section of the library) my guess would be that they're chained based on price. Books with extensive illustration or reference books which basically serve as an index for the rest of the library might be chained in place because the maesters don't want to have to replace them.
I again did not see a chain attached to a book in the episode. I was looking!
Yeah, as a librarian it's annoying. Medieval libraries were better organized than that. You couldn't just go around grabbing books without unlocking them first.
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Euron did say he spent the past however long becoming the greatest captain in the 14 seas (because if it's not going to be seven it obviously needs to be TWICE AS MANY SEAS).
Like mother like son, I guess, because Joffrey looked at his crossbow just like Cersei looked at her new giant crossbow.
I suddenly got a flash on what may end up happening to Olenna.
I hope not.
Of all the people in the show, Olenna Tyrell is the only one that I think has earned in-universe "plot armor."
Whatever happens with the Iron Throne and Westeros in general, the series needs to end with a shot of Olenna Tyrell sitting in a garden, drinking wine, reading a stack of notes from ravens, shaking her head and saying, "I fucking told you." <roll credits>
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Euron's pirate stuff includes slavery, recruitment of warlocks onto his crew, and acquisitions of magical items. I assume that in the books he wanted to have some specific items before making a play for leadership of the Iron Isles but we have no idea for sure if those items exist in the show.
Presumably he would have been able to do everything he's done so far earlier on if he wanted, no?
im so lost with Euron
He came back to claim the Iron Islands
If there is one thing I've learned from the Pirates of the Carribean movies it's that if your pirates aren't undead and somehow bound to serve your ship those bastards die faster than you can conscript new ones. He probably came home because he needed a new crew to help him recover the Black Pearl.
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Presumably he would have been able to do everything he's done so far earlier on if he wanted, no?
im so lost with Euron
Hes been able to steal/plunder everything he's ever wanted, except marriage to a beautiful, powerful woman. He's stated that's something he's dreamt about since he was a boy.
So his first plan was to steal Dany's heart by presenting her with a fleet. That idea got stolen, so now he's moved on to winning Cersei's heart.
Presumably he would have been able to do everything he's done so far earlier on if he wanted, no?
im so lost with Euron
He came back to claim the Iron Islands
So does he want power or just glory for the II?
See how his story compares with how well they reminded us of everyone else's motivations and journeys in just this episode.
I'm fine with him being unstoppable- I'm having a hard time with him being such a thinly fleshed out character in the show as they are winding it down and doing an otherwise nice job of treating the other characters' stories.
I guess I would have liked to learn more about him earlier is all.
Same with Jamie's admiration for Randall Tarly, which ... whatever. At least Jamie played up to his racism, which does seem to tie back well to what we've learned about him from Sam/the little we saw of him prior to this episode.
Euron's pirate stuff includes slavery, recruitment of warlocks onto his crew, and acquisitions of magical items. I assume that in the books he wanted to have some specific items before making a play for leadership of the Iron Isles but we have no idea for sure if those items exist in the show.
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It's also possible the King's Landing engineers came up with a smaller, more aimable ballista capable of piercing dragon bone where previous incarnations where harder to target and/or couldn't get through a dragon's armor.
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Westeros has always been basically a mid sized city on the show. You can walk from one end to the other in a day or so.
Metal based Dewey decimal system obv
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I mean, they're right across the bay from each other. He already was aware of where they were.
It's really not much of a leap and a pretty common tactic.
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Yeah and his flagship is called Silence for a reason. He literally is just being show as "Ironborn, but competent."
Like mother like son, I guess, because Joffrey looked at his crossbow just like Cersei looked at her new giant crossbow.
Assuming they're not chained based on content (since they have a locked section of the library) my guess would be that they're chained based on price. Books with extensive illustration or reference books which basically serve as an index for the rest of the library might be chained in place because the maesters don't want to have to replace them.
He also wears full plate armor in water based attacks. Most everybody else is just wearing leather jackets.
I again did not see a chain attached to a book in the episode. I was looking!
I've looked but couldn't tell. I can see where the chains attach to the shelves but can't tell where they end up.
Maybe they're actually just super-thematic bookmarks. If you're in the library reading and you want to mark your place, you grab a chained bookmark and stick it there. Maesters, chains, etc.
Yeah, as a librarian it's annoying. Medieval libraries were better organized than that. You couldn't just go around grabbing books without unlocking them first.
Most everyone else wasn't ready for a fight.
I suddenly got a flash on what may end up happening to Ellaria.
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Being a pirate, I would assume.
Presumably he would have been able to do everything he's done so far earlier on if he wanted, no?
im so lost with Euron
I hope not.
Of all the people in the show, Olenna Tyrell is the only one that I think has earned in-universe "plot armor."
Whatever happens with the Iron Throne and Westeros in general, the series needs to end with a shot of Olenna Tyrell sitting in a garden, drinking wine, reading a stack of notes from ravens, shaking her head and saying, "I fucking told you." <roll credits>
Didn't he already say why?
Found out his older brother was doing a shit job and decided he could do better?
Because the plot needed him to be elsewhere until it needed him to replace Ramsay as the designated plot armor villain.
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He came back to claim the Iron Islands
Book stuff for Euron's career
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If there is one thing I've learned from the Pirates of the Carribean movies it's that if your pirates aren't undead and somehow bound to serve your ship those bastards die faster than you can conscript new ones. He probably came home because he needed a new crew to help him recover the Black Pearl.
Sorry I meant Ellaria.
Hes been able to steal/plunder everything he's ever wanted, except marriage to a beautiful, powerful woman. He's stated that's something he's dreamt about since he was a boy.
So his first plan was to steal Dany's heart by presenting her with a fleet. That idea got stolen, so now he's moved on to winning Cersei's heart.
Pretty straightforward really.
Nowadays everyone is into these newfangled video games.
So does he want power or just glory for the II?
See how his story compares with how well they reminded us of everyone else's motivations and journeys in just this episode.
I'm fine with him being unstoppable- I'm having a hard time with him being such a thinly fleshed out character in the show as they are winding it down and doing an otherwise nice job of treating the other characters' stories.
I guess I would have liked to learn more about him earlier is all.
Same with Jamie's admiration for Randall Tarly, which ... whatever. At least Jamie played up to his racism, which does seem to tie back well to what we've learned about him from Sam/the little we saw of him prior to this episode.
Isn't that kind of a step backwards to Sam emptying chamber pots to being served thin bean soup?
Oh!
Show-only here. That makes a lot of sense then.
They kind of cocked those up compared to the adaptations of all the other characters and storylines
I actually found today's gross transition worse than last week's.