[Blade Runner 2049] More human than human

Jazz · October 2017

:: Year - 2019 ::

Early in the 21st Century, THE TYRELL CORPORATION advanced robot evolution into the NEXUS phase - a being virtually identical to a human - known as a Replicant. The NEXUS 6 Replicants were superior in strength and agility, and at least equal in intelligence, to the genetic engineers who created them. Replicants were used Off-World as slave labor, in the hazardous exploration and colonization of other planets. After a bloody mutiny by a NEXUS 6 combat team in an Off-World colony, Replicants were declared illegal on earth - under penalty of death. Special police squads - BLADE RUNNER UNITS - had orders to shoot to kill, upon detection, any trespassing Replicant.

This was not called execution. It was called retirement.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eogpIG53Cis

:: Year - 20XX ::

Short films, collected:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMP1YpQSGhQ

:: Year - 2049 ::

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCcx85zbxz4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZOaI_Fn5o4

jungleroomx · October 2017

I'm seeing it tonight, will post impressions.

This is going to be an open spoilers thread, y/n?

Jazz · October 2017

jungleroomx wrote: »

I'm seeing it tonight, will post impressions.

This is going to be an open spoilers thread, y/n?

That is a good question, and one I'm still wrestling with. Typically movie-specific threads here are indeed open spoilers, but I'm wondering in this particular case if it might be worth delaying for, say, a week.

Thoughts, everyone?

EDIT: That's what I'm doing. Everyone, PLEASE TAG YOUR SPOILERS for the first week. Longer post about this further down. Thanks!

caligynefob · October 2017

Fuck spoilers! This is the best movie since Sicario.

DasUberEdward · October 2017

Okay quick question should I go back and watch the original even though I really don't care for it or should I just read the wiki again for a refresher.

caligynefob · October 2017

DasUberEdward wrote: »

Okay quick question should I go back and watch the original even though I really don't care for it or should I just read the wiki again for a refresher.

I would recommend watching it again, just to catch the subtle hints in the new one.

WiseManTobes · October 2017

Damn thread title keeps putting damn song in my head.

RT800 · October 2017

I have never actually sat down and watched the first one.

I feel like I should do that before seeing this one.

Feriluce · October 2017

This references the first a lot more than I was expecting. I would recommend seeing it before hand if able.

Jazz · October 2017

Feriluce wrote: »

This references the first a lot more than I was expecting. I would recommend seeing it before hand if able.

Noted. Refresher viewing before I go and see it confirmed. (Which is still a few days away, which is contributing to my ambivalence on the spoilers issue.)

Space Pickle · October 2017

This is the one film I'm super excited for. New Star Trek was better than most of the old ST films, new Star Wars has been cool so far, but new Blade Runner...this is the one that tops them all. I just hope they don't turn it into a franchise.

Anyway, I'm going full blackout after this post. The reviews I've read have been excellent but also said that you really really don't want to spoil this one.

Jazz · October 2017

Right, I'm going to go with my gut here as regards spoilers, and assuming the mods are also okay with it.

Please TAG YOUR SPOILERS, at this point I'm going to say for the first week. I get the feeling there will be plenty to discuss about this movie outside of spoilers.

I may be wrong, in which case I might revisit this. But for now, please tag everything even slightly spoilerrific. If something is a tiny spoiler, or something outside of the usual realm, please note as such with your spoiler.

After that it'll be open season.

I know this is unusual for a dedicated movie thread. I hope everyone's okay with this. Thank you.

Feriluce · October 2017

I know a few reviews have said this, but it definitely feels like how Fury Road was compared to Road Warrior. A really good modern sequel that by all expectations you would assume to be a cheap cash in.

-Loki- · October 2017

Feriluce wrote: »

I know a few reviews have said this, but it definitely feels like how Fury Road was compared to Road Warrior. A really good modern sequel that by all expectations you would assume to be a cheap cash in.

With Denis Villeneuve at the helm I never expected a cheap cash in.

jungleroomx · October 2017

I say with no exaggeration that this movie is great, but the cinematography and sets are fucking astoundingly good.

jungleroomx · October 2017

And man, that audience was dead silent, even when standing up to leave.

This is a beautiful film.

Darlan · October 2017

They pretty much nailed it. It has one of those endings where it feels like they cut things a little too short at first (what about this and this, and that), but the more you sit with it the better stopping point it feels like.

Frozenzen · October 2017

This is such a good sequel. Also a great movie of course, but what struck me most was how it handled being a sequel. Explores the world anew with mostly new characters while not retreading the first movie, but exploring similar themes.

The Ender · October 2017

...Oh, this is actually good?

Well shit.

jungleroomx · October 2017

The Ender wrote: »

...Oh, this is actually good?

Well shit.

If you liked the first, yes. It's got a lot of quiet, introspective moments and some really, really beautiful moments. I've never seen a sex scene done so classy and artfully.

If you didn't, probably not.

I would do a review proper, but I think I need to see it again and I don't want to spoil a single thing accidentally. This damn movie plods a bit for the first act, and then there's this event that happens and then it's full speed ahead.

jungleroomx · October 2017

Also, best use of an animal in a movie.

Heartbreaking.

AlphaRomero · October 2017

Ok so why does this one particular replicant have her memories?

Other than that it was a great film.

ZeroCow · October 2017

AlphaRomero wrote: »

Ok so why does this one particular replicant have her memories?

Other than that it was a great film.

I think it's because she was born and not just "created."

BlackDragon480 · October 2017

Will be seeing it Sunday morning, and plan on doing a rewatch of the Final Cut tomorrow night in prep.

I wish I could find a locally available copy of the 4K Blu-Ray of the Final Cut released in the wild earlier this year, I'll just have to make due with 1080p and DTS 7.1 for now.

thatassemblyguy · October 2017

AlphaRomero wrote: »

Ok so why does this one particular replicant have her memories?

Other than that it was a great film.

From the scene after the casino in the sewers, I got the impression that every replicant had some of her memories. There was a line, "We all thought we were/we all hoped we were the one" or something along those lines. Maybe I misheard/interpreted, however.

e: Like, she would recreate one of her memories and bundle it with the fake memories in the packages she sold to Wallace.

thatassemblyguy · October 2017

The Ender wrote: »

...Oh, this is actually good?

Well shit.

It's not bad. It definitely made for a fun Thursday night.

AlphaRomero · October 2017

thatassemblyguy wrote: »

AlphaRomero wrote: »

Ok so why does this one particular replicant have her memories?

Other than that it was a great film.

From the scene after the casino in the sewers, I got the impression that every replicant had some of her memories. There was a line, "We all thought we were/we all hoped we were the one" or something along those lines. Maybe I misheard/interpreted, however.

e: Like, she would recreate one of her memories and bundle it with the fake memories in the packages she sold to Wallace.

But he's selling apparently new obedient Replicants, and the old ones are on the run. She wasn't creating memories until at least 2029, and the woman who says that was there at her birth. Eh I dunno, maybe it's just fluke, I expected there to be twins honestly given the identical male and female kids on record.

honovere · October 2017

AlphaRomero wrote: »

thatassemblyguy wrote: »

AlphaRomero wrote: »

Ok so why does this one particular replicant have her memories?

Other than that it was a great film.

From the scene after the casino in the sewers, I got the impression that every replicant had some of her memories. There was a line, "We all thought we were/we all hoped we were the one" or something along those lines. Maybe I misheard/interpreted, however.

e: Like, she would recreate one of her memories and bundle it with the fake memories in the packages she sold to Wallace.

But he's selling apparently new obedient Replicants, and the old ones are on the run. She wasn't creating memories until at least 2029, and the woman who says that was there at her birth. Eh I dunno, maybe it's just fluke, I expected there to be twins honestly given the identical male and female kids on record.

What I like about that is that it deconstructs the typical "Chosen One" plot. No K, you aren't special, it's not your "fate" to lead the replicant uprising, but that means you can make your own choice and decide what cause is important to you personally.

TychoCelchuuu · October 2017

Blade Runner is my favorite movie, so this definitely had a lot to live up. I watched a double feature - the theater showed the original Blade Runner (Final Cut) first, then this movie. I loved this movie, and upon further reflection I realized I was focusing too much on comparing it to the first movie, which doesn't do any favors, so I reappraised it in my head by thinking of it as its own film and it grew in my estimation. So what I'm saying is, now I really love this movie. We don't get enough blockbusters that are this slow and ponderous.

Jazz · October 2017

BlackDragon480 wrote: »

Will be seeing it Sunday morning, and plan on doing a rewatch of the Final Cut tomorrow night in prep.

I wish I could find a locally available copy of the 4K Blu-Ray of the Final Cut released in the wild earlier this year, I'll just have to make due with 1080p and DTS 7.1 for now.

How will you ever cope

honovere · October 2017

It takes a bit getting used to the pace of the movie. It's not very "modern" in that regard. Like a standard blockbuster editing would maybe cut the runtime by an hour. The only reason that was detrimental though, was because the cinema we were at has the most uncomfortable seats which was really exacerbated by the runtime.

BlackDragon480 · October 2017

Jazz wrote: »

BlackDragon480 wrote: »

Will be seeing it Sunday morning, and plan on doing a rewatch of the Final Cut tomorrow night in prep.

I wish I could find a locally available copy of the 4K Blu-Ray of the Final Cut released in the wild earlier this year, I'll just have to make due with 1080p and DTS 7.1 for now.

How will you ever cope

By making origami unicorns (or dudes with huge Rachel/Sean Young induced boners) out of foil.

AngelHedgie · October 2017

https://youtu.be/KzVwLQw-37o

Bogart · October 2017

Just saw it.

Magnificent.

jungleroomx · October 2017

Did anyone else catch the um...

Twist that it wasn't K but the memory designer

Because that one flew right over my head.

Bogart · October 2017

That caught me by surprise, but yeah, it’s a pretty clear moment.

Frozenzen · October 2017

jungleroomx wrote: »

Did anyone else catch the um...
Twist that it wasn't K but the memory designer
Because that one flew right over my head.

I was positively surprised when they said he was not it, and immidiately thought of the designer due to what he said in response.
The guy i watched the movie with did not however, it's pretty subtle if you arent paying attention.

Bogart · October 2017

That bit spoiler.

That reveal caught me totally by surprise, and I loved the movie for hiding it in plain sight.

Not quite as open-mouthed in shock as the moment when Rachel walked out of the shadows, though. That sent a genuine chill up my spine.

Burnage · October 2017

This is maybe the second film I've ever seen at the cinema where the audience left in complete silence.

It's an amazing film that genuinely needs some digestion afterwards.

Bogart · October 2017

I think a fair number of people will hate it. I saw two groups walk out and not come back in the first hour, and heard a few disgusted THAT WAS SHIT comments from a few people at the end, but honestly those people looked like morons and dog-beaters, so I am happy drawing a line between those who love and hate the movie and retiring the half that hated it.

The Ender · October 2017

Burnage wrote: »

This is maybe the second film I've ever seen at the cinema where the audience left in complete silence.

It's an amazing film that genuinely needs some digestion afterwards.

Okay, yes, this sounds like a thing I would like.

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