I dunno, guys. I am really not sold on this event. It seems interchangeable with every other event since I stopped reading in the 90s. Gambit is mysterious and maybe a rouge but not really. Cable is mysterious and maybe a rouge but not really. Mister Sinister does mysterious shit for mysterious reasons. And big crowds of semi-entertaining-to-crappy mutants pound on each other for some reason and accomplish precisely dick. Maybe if there's a big awesome reveal at the end or character development or something I'll pick up the trade.
Have you been reading it at all?
The biggest difference is how well its written. And the fact than rather that just be "oh shit time for a crossover" it's a logical extension of storylines that have been building through the X-books for awhile. Thats what makes it stand out.
I dunno, guys. I am really not sold on this event. It seems interchangeable with every other event since I stopped reading in the 90s. Gambit is mysterious and maybe a rouge but not really. Cable is mysterious and maybe a rouge but not really. Mister Sinister does mysterious shit for mysterious reasons. And big crowds of semi-entertaining-to-crappy mutants pound on each other for some reason and accomplish precisely dick. Maybe if there's a big awesome reveal at the end or character development or something I'll pick up the trade.
Have you been reading it at all?
The biggest difference is how well its written. And the fact than rather that just be "oh shit time for a crossover" it's a logical extension of storylines that have been building through the X-books for awhile. Thats what makes it stand out.
Get out of here with your differing opinion. You're getting in the way of the all important bitching about the 90s.
I remember one comic mentioned it might be because he was 'strung together with hi-tech cybernetic cable'. But it's probably just because it sounds cool. I mean, Liefeld created the character all by himself...
From what Wikipedia says, it sounds like Sinister was supposed to be a little kid pretending to be an adult, originally. So putting Mister in front of his name would make him sound more grown up, I guess. Mister Sinister sounds like a name an eight-year-old would think up for himself. Like Ravenshadow.
It's odd to name someone after their disability, especially when it has nothing to do with their powers. You might as well refer to Spider-Man as "Everyone He Loves Dies" or Superman as "Mr. Exploding Planet".
I would have liked Mister Sinister more if he had been a kid, I think. I mean a mad scientist pretty much is described as a being with over-developed intelligence and under-developed maturity, what with the way they're always whining about people laughing at them and, "Who's laughing now?!"
How did Cable get the name Cable? Nothing about him suggests that moniker.
And isn't Mister Sinister a doctor? Why doesn't he go by Doctor Sinister?
Does Sinister even use the 'Mister' anymore? Everyone just calls him Sinister... I can't remember the last time someone said 'Mr. Sinister.'
I think it was the guy from Papa Johns.
It did not end well.
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When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
That's pretty much code for "Someone close to her bites it"
And seeing as how Jamie's still around after all this, that leaves....
Well, the crystals are gone, and he's been screwing with the bull.
That is one peculiar metaphor
Well, you've heard the saying "screw with the bull, you'll get the horns"?
The crystals are a separate thing.
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When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
The newer pic (first posted) is from Not Another Teen Movie, unless I'm mistaken.
(which is hilarious, btw)
Indeed. Same line, same actor, two different movies.
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When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
I simply can't keep up with Marvel. Having to read different X-Men magazines in order to follow a story it's nearly impossible with importing. I just read Messiah Complex #1 and I had no idea what was going on.
I haven't seen forge in a gazillion years, Xavier is back and walking and I don't even know why he was gone the first place, I kinda remember Maddox dying, why the hell is Gambit with Sinister. I gotta see if I get some list with the order of the comics or something.
Gambit has been a "bad guy" for like at least 2 years now. Xavier went missing after House of M, which was the big marvel event 2 years ago, he came back powerless but with the use of his legs during the Deadly Genesis miniseries, then regained his powers during the "Rise and Fall of the Shi'ar Empire" arc last year.
None of those things really are important for Messiah Complex.
Madrox has never died that I can recall (unless you count a few of his dupes in X-Factor)
I don't understand why they're so sure that a Madrox who dies in a potential future would be able to transfer his knowledge all the way to the past. Is there some sort of precedent for this?
Gambit has been a "bad guy" for like at least 2 years now. Xavier went missing after House of M, which was the big marvel event 2 years ago, he came back powerless but with the use of his legs during the Deadly Genesis miniseries, then regained his powers during the "Rise and Fall of the Shi'ar Empire" arc last year.
None of those things really are important for Messiah Complex.
Madrox has never died that I can recall (unless you count a few of his dupes in X-Factor)
Thanks, when the comics were sold here in Portugal we were WAAAY behind, so it's hard to keep up.
The last I heard of Gambit, they left him in Alaska because they found out what he did. I think.
I don't understand why they're so sure that a Madrox who dies in a potential future would be able to transfer his knowledge all the way to the past. Is there some sort of precedent for this?
I dunno, because recently, if a dupe died, the knowledge died with him.
Thanks, when the comics were sold here in Portugal we were WAAAY behind, so it's hard to keep up.
The last I heard of Gambit, they left him in Alaska because they found out what he did. I think.
That was a very long time ago, and is unrelated to Gambit going bad this time around.
Gambit was retconned into having led the Marauders into the Morlock tunnels during the Mutant Massacre, and this was the big secret he was always worrying about people finding out back in the day. It came out, the X-Men (ludicrously) dumped him in the Arctic as punishment. This time around he (for no good reason) joined up with Apocalypse as one of his horsemen, turned blue and started shooting poison gas out of his fingertips, then fell in with Sinister, but is possibly a double agent of some kind. He's basically a character badly in need of either death or a complete overhaul.
To be fair, the current writers had nothing to do with him becoming a Horseman, and the fact that they've already dropped that stupid blue skin poison gas shit is a good thing. Hopefully they keep it up and he's a useable character by the end of the crossover.
I liked the way his last solo book portrayed him - basically without scruples, but not actually evil, and pretty funny to boot. I don't think he ever really clicked as part of the team. About 90% of his X-Men screentime was endless moping and angst about Rogue (and vice versa, before Carey got his hands on her) that interested no-one outside of Rogue & Remy shippers. They might retool him and make him rejoin, but let's be honest, his heyday was fifteen years ago when he was first introduced and everyone loved the mysterious thief guy with the silly accent. Nowadays he's usually first choice in a 'Which X-Man would you push out of a plane first' quiz.
Also, drop the stupid cajun patois (hehehegumbomardigrascheredismystickbangyoudead) and his unbelievably annoying habit of saying things in French and then repeating the English translation (both of which his solo book wisely avoided).
I'm just saying that this is probably the best way he's been used since the Morlock Massacre stuff (which was a great idea in theory but poorly executed)
This Gambit hate pains me.... as the cajun patois is part of the character. It's like asking a Jamaican to not speak patois when they were raised there. But in any event, I agree, he's always been written better in his solo books. The cliched brooding type, pining for a girl he can't touch that he was written as for years has hurt the character immensely. Hopefully he does turn out to be a double agent, cause he needs something to do to redeem himself. Although I think Brubaker has openly admitted he strongly dislikes gambit, and may just kill him off if he gets his hands on him.
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This Gambit hate pains me.... as the cajun patois is part of the character. It's like asking a Jamaican to not speak patois when they were raised there. But in any event, I agree, he's always been written better in his solo books. The cliched brooding type, pining for a girl he can't touch that he was written as for years has hurt the character immensely. Hopefully he does turn out to be a double agent, cause he needs something to do to redeem himself. Although I think Brubaker has openly admitted he strongly dislikes gambit, and may just kill him off if he gets his hands on him.
Yeah, except they've almost universally written his crappy Cajun incorrectly. His language has just been a white, non-Cajun's stereotypical sense of what a Cajun would sound like.
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Have you been reading it at all?
The biggest difference is how well its written. And the fact than rather that just be "oh shit time for a crossover" it's a logical extension of storylines that have been building through the X-books for awhile. Thats what makes it stand out.
Get out of here with your differing opinion. You're getting in the way of the all important bitching about the 90s.
And isn't Mister Sinister a doctor? Why doesn't he go by Doctor Sinister?
From what Wikipedia says, it sounds like Sinister was supposed to be a little kid pretending to be an adult, originally. So putting Mister in front of his name would make him sound more grown up, I guess. Mister Sinister sounds like a name an eight-year-old would think up for himself. Like Ravenshadow.
I would have liked Mister Sinister more if he had been a kid, I think. I mean a mad scientist pretty much is described as a being with over-developed intelligence and under-developed maturity, what with the way they're always whining about people laughing at them and, "Who's laughing now?!"
It's because he's a link/cable from the future to the present. But mostly because it sounds cool.
"Hey guys? Next time, let's just build this place outta Lego."
Dragging this up from a few pages back because Newsarama has a interview with Yost and Kyle about X-force. Kyle says this:
The spoiler's not much of one, but better safe than sorry.
Here's a link to the interview.
And seeing as how Jamie's still around after all this, that leaves....
Does Sinister even use the 'Mister' anymore? Everyone just calls him Sinister... I can't remember the last time someone said 'Mr. Sinister.'
I think it was the guy from Papa Johns.
It did not end well.
That is one peculiar metaphor
The crystals are a separate thing.
(which is hilarious, btw)
Indeed. Same line, same actor, two different movies.
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I haven't seen forge in a gazillion years, Xavier is back and walking and I don't even know why he was gone the first place, I kinda remember Maddox dying, why the hell is Gambit with Sinister. I gotta see if I get some list with the order of the comics or something.
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He's mentioned in the March solicits, so he ain't gonna die for a while.
None of those things really are important for Messiah Complex.
Madrox has never died that I can recall (unless you count a few of his dupes in X-Factor)
The last I heard of Gambit, they left him in Alaska because they found out what he did. I think.
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That was a very long time ago, and is unrelated to Gambit going bad this time around.
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Also, drop the stupid cajun patois (hehehegumbomardigrascheredismystickbangyoudead) and his unbelievably annoying habit of saying things in French and then repeating the English translation (both of which his solo book wisely avoided).
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I'm just saying that this is probably the best way he's been used since the Morlock Massacre stuff (which was a great idea in theory but poorly executed)
" No, I'm eccentric... only poor people are called crazy."
Yeah, except they've almost universally written his crappy Cajun incorrectly. His language has just been a white, non-Cajun's stereotypical sense of what a Cajun would sound like.