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  • CelloCello Registered User regular
    In terms of cold calling, I've actually had a lot of success sending resumes to companies that didn't have postings up. Maybe....half my jobs have been that? A quarter referrals, a quarter actual postings. One came from explicitly showing up and doing a resume drop with a secretary. Rarely have I worked somewhere with a staff larger than 150-250 though.

    Cold calling a random employee though with a resume? Haha, nope. I'd usually go for an HR e-mail, and if none existed, reach out to the general inbox instead.

    Follow-ups are something I usually do after the given response time (e.g. being told I'd hear back in two weeks, then not hearing back at all) to try and nudge HR along. Which worked! ........and should have been a red flag in both occasions when I had to do a couple of them, joined the companies, and surprise surprise - both were serially mismanaged.

    Also resumes, cover letters and interviews become a thing that you can pull off ridiculously easily once you've done them enough. Turns out after you hit your 60th or 70th interview it becomes incredibly hard to give a fuck about your replies to any of the questions, which just makes you seem infinitely more confident and cool.

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  • NebulousQNebulousQ Registered User regular
    edited February 4
    NebulousQ wrote: »
    We're probably still more than a year out from when my wife will start applying for jobs again but she's expressed anxiety about how difficult it might be to get back in to the job market after having taken a roughly 8-year hiatus as a stay-at-home-mom.

    Anyone here have any experience or advice in that area?

    What field of work is she thinking about working in?

    Her professional background is in office management. She last ran the administrative side of an academic department of a university, primarily dealing with budget, schedule, and university policy compliance.

    That said, I don't think she'll be super picky. She'd embrace the dream of being able to Work From Home! if it were possible. She's a fantastic writer.

    One of her concerns is that her best references are going to be professors that have since retired. Does that have a significant impact on the value of the reference?

    Hmm, I don't have any experience in office management or being a stay-at-home-mom.

    Two pieces of advice that I can give are:

    1) A friend told me about Informational Interviews, in which he asked friends, acquaintances, and professional contacts for a more informal meeting where he could learn about the company and the demands of jobs within the company and where the company could learn about him. This seems like a more low key way that your wife could get her self out there; framing it, and using it, as a way to get up to date to on the current job market and demands of different positions. He was able to land jobs twice using informational interviews.

    2) I had a work gap, though much briefer, that I had to overcome when I was recently looking for a job. Something that I encountered, was that during the period I was not working none of my self worth was wrapped up in being employed. I was enjoying myself doing other things. However, when I had difficulty getting back into the job market my self worth began to drop and that kinda blindsided me. Even though I didn't think I drew much self worth from a job, our society and culture values work a lot and, as much as I like to think I am counter cultural in ways, it is still very much my culture and its values still affect me . Even though one might be doing valuable things, like say raising kids and building a family, I think that the struggle to find a job, especially after a hiatus, can be depressing, and even crushing.

    I don't know if your wife will have the same struggle I did, but if so, she should remember to remind herself of what she is, or was, doing that is/was worthwhile, enjoyable, or gave her self worth and confidence during her 8-year stint as a superhero, err... I mean stay at home mom.

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  • JedocJedoc Take a look. It's in a book. It was always in a book, you fool.Registered User regular
  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    schuss wrote: »
    Also, tomorrow is technically my 2nd day on my new job and I'm already straight to meeting one on one with c suiters. Oddly enough it's the same one that laid me off. Well, let's hear it for professional adventure.

    Are you back at the same company or is this some Twilight Zone shenanigans where they'll always be one step ahead of you?

    Ha! Same company. They ended up creating the group I had been advocating for, so I applied and got the job.

    Also, informational interviews are magic and easiest way to bypass bs HR practices. Two reasons:
    1. Managers hate those practices more than you do.
    2. No one ever asks you about what you do, so someone willing to sit and listen that then wants to do it with you goes a long way in the Goodwill Dept. Even if it doesn't sound good, you leave knowing something you didn't and neither of you waste time on a bad fit.
    It also saved me from my first layoff as I was just ok on paper but had an instant connection with the manager.
    In large companies it's the best way to expand your network and jump business units.

  • JansonJanson Registered User regular
    Sooo we have about four inches of snow.

    @Moriveth drove my car to Wendy’s (a mile from us) and he drove at about 15 mph and my car was still skidding all over the place.

    I do actually want to do work this week! And I can do *some* from home but I’d prefer to be in the office. But unless this snow melts by tomorrow (unlikely, it’s already dropping to a low of 15 Fahrenheit/-9.5 degrees Celsius) I’m not going to be able to go in tomorrow and more snow is forecast for Thursday and Friday...

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  • ToxTox I kill threads Punch DimensionRegistered User regular
    Ah I love this time of year. This is the time of year where I get to use my scripted email that says, "Yeah the reason you're not able to log in and get your W-2 is that you don't work here anymore. You'll have to call Payroll."

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  • L Ron HowardL Ron Howard Registered User regular
    Sleep wrote: »
    honovere wrote: »
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    Liiya wrote: »
    I see, thanks guys!

    In other news, my practice now has more women than men.

    Not in the highest position though, don't be daft.


    But in a few years who knows.

    That's one of the shitty things in architecture. University, like 60% women, offices, maybe a 50-50 split, but as soon as you look at positions above maybe team lead it feels like 90% men. The whole field is at least partially stuck in the middle of the last century.

    It's waiting on the current era of presidency and c-level positions within the architecture and engineering firms to finally fuckin retire or die. Seemingly the folks just below that layer get that changes absolutely need to happen. But the top layer is still insisting their world view is correct and its holding back the promotion of women beyond a certain level almost across the board. It's pretty fuckin infuriating to watch sometimes.

    Holy crap I agree!
    As a consultant, change cannot come from the ground up. Once you try to change things and your manager/director/veep/whatever doesn't care, the change stops.
    Great business for a consultant to basically take all the complaints that everyone tells you about the process or whatever, and give it to the managers paying you. Where they then completely disregard it because reasons.

    But since they're determined to stick around and strip mine their company for all the value it has, the company just flounders and fails, but still inexplicably pays them a good salary.

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  • StragintStragint Do Not Gift Always DeclinesRegistered User regular
    So I've been pretty much just using Indeed and applying to random businesses that come to mind. Is Monster any good to use? Figure I could expand a bit. I do get emails from time to time from Monster but it is always some really random job that I have no business in like the medical field.

    I've applied for some call center customer service positions and after thinking about it I felt some very serious dread about doing more call center work and dealing with humans.

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  • JansonJanson Registered User regular
    edited February 5
    I also wouldn’t discount Craigslist. I had better luck with getting responses through Craigslist than Indeed and both @Moriveth and I got our current jobs through Craigslist!

    Edit: We both found more businesses advertising directly through CL, whereas Indeed is more of a base for recruiters.

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  • Sir PlatypusSir Platypus Registered User regular
    I really hope I can grab our district manager next time he rolls through.

    Our area absolutely was out of order. Things out of place, behind on schedule, and sharp hazards not properly disposed of.

    The GM made the excuse of one of us was on vacation, rather than the fact that we are understaffed already, with one of us (me) working multiple departments because no one else can take on those duties, due to shit staffing.

  • SporkAndrewSporkAndrew Registered User, ClubPA regular
    oh no

    we moved desks

    i shoulda asked to stay sitting next to person i was sitting with before

    new person next to me has um hm
    some BO issues hm

    and there is no polite way to handle this tbh
    i'm not gonna say anything i'm too scared

    oh no

    I'm playing catch up, but this is something to bring to HR and Management.

    Yep. Back at a previous workplace there was a guy that was essentially a social pariah because he had pretty bad BO.

    I raised it with HR once I'd been there a couple of weeks and was told that no-one had ever actually raised it as an issue with them. I'd spent the weeks hearing about how smelly this guy was and how I shouldn't go near him or to hold my breath whilst walking through a section of the office and no-one had ever done anything about it, just bitched about it behind his back.

    Turned out that it was a medical thing and he had just gone nose-blind to the fact that the antiperspirant he was using wasn't working anymore, so pretty much the day after he had a chat with the HR guy he was an entirely different person as people would then go over to talk to him, ask questions that would've previously been done over IM / email, etc.

    It's a tough conversation to have but that's why you pawn it off to HR/ management.

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  • KarlKarl Registered User regular
    Just got back from a long weekend.

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  • Al_watAl_wat Registered User regular
    I am so god damned burned out

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  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    Janson wrote: »
    I also wouldn’t discount Craigslist. I had better luck with getting responses through Craigslist than Indeed and both @Moriveth and I got our current jobs through Craigslist!

    Edit: We both found more businesses advertising directly through CL, whereas Indeed is more of a base for recruiters.

    I do discount CL for various reasons
    NM is really well grasping at straws anymore

  • CelloCello Registered User regular
    Stragint wrote: »
    So I've been pretty much just using Indeed and applying to random businesses that come to mind. Is Monster any good to use? Figure I could expand a bit. I do get emails from time to time from Monster but it is always some really random job that I have no business in like the medical field.

    I've applied for some call center customer service positions and after thinking about it I felt some very serious dread about doing more call center work and dealing with humans.

    It really depends on your area; different cities tend to rely on different systems

    Monster in my town has always been the place to go if you want a gig in software and not much else. Eluta, Indeed or the government jobs site tend to be much more effective

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  • furlionfurlion Riskbreaker Lea MondeRegistered User regular
    Wife and son have the flu, so she is missing work. They closed the plant Sunday night for the Superbowl but didn't pay us. So now I have to work an extra shift just to hit 40 hours and then try and pick up another one to make up for my wife. At least I don't feel sick yet. Oh and we all got the flu shot which seems to have helped with my son at least. He is getting over it pretty quickly. Really wish we would have worked Sunday night. Fucking sports.

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  • DynagripDynagrip destroy everything you touch Registered User, ClubPA regular
    I need a different reason for why I want to leave my current job than the one about the whole toxic mold trashing my body and causing autoimmune encephalitis. I'm thinking about going with it wasn't challenging enough as they had just finished one major project and that a new one was indefinitely delayed. It has some elements of truthiness to it...

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  • CelloCello Registered User regular
    edited February 5
    Dynagrip wrote: »
    I need a different reason for why I want to leave my current job than the one about the whole toxic mold trashing my body and causing autoimmune encephalitis. I'm thinking about going with it wasn't challenging enough as they had just finished one major project and that a new one was indefinitely delayed. It has some elements of truthiness to it...

    You've appreciated the job and everything you've learned from it but feel like you're ready for a new challenge.

    (Try not to dunk, but if you do, try to frame it as positively about your engagement/growth as possible, and not fault the company for it.)

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  • Brovid HasselsmofBrovid Hasselsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    Heard an old guy at work today say "Yeah I have an immunity to the flu. It's cos I never get that flu vaccination." and my eye twitched so hard I pulled a muscle.

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  • TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    edited February 5
    Javen wrote: »
    Tube wrote: »
    I'm curious as to everyone's opinions on direct employer contact by jobseekers. I get these a ton, emails saying "Hi I'm Barry Pibblesworth and I'm a Voggo Specialist and I'd like to come and work at Penny Arcade even though you have no open positions for Voggo Specialists."

    I've actually seen this as a recommended practise for jobseekers, which honestly kind of befuddles me, because I will, 100% of the time, assume this person is a schmuck who doesn't know how things happen. Could it be that I am the schmuck who doesn't know how things happen? Perhaps it's an American thing?

    It's an older generation thing that I still see a lot where people above a certain age think 'just walking into a business and handing the manager your resume' is a good way to get an interview. You don't see it as much now, but it's still advice given by people over a certain age who thinks milennials not getting work is entirely due to laziness on their part.



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  • DynagripDynagrip destroy everything you touch Registered User, ClubPA regular
    I'm using the phrase 'galaxy class engineer' in my cover letters.

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  • SleepSleep Registered User regular
    Holy shit my train is just impossible this morning there's giant crowds headed in for the parade today, someone on the platform is blaring house music, bad house music, like top 40 remix house music at 8:30 in the morning.

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  • sarukunsarukun Mr. Bulldopps Get SchwiftyRegistered User regular
    “I dare you not to give me this job, motherfucker.

    I.

    Dare.

    You.”

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  • LiiyaLiiya Registered User regular
    "Are there clouds at night?" - colleague who has never look up at night.

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  • SleepSleep Registered User regular
    Whelp that's the second train I couldn't hit because of patriots fans the kid with the PA is still here, but that cadre of drunk college kids seems to be realizing the grueling realities of waiting for the train and why no one on a train platform is super excited at 830 am.

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Air con is broken again

    Big glass building on a hill with the sun shining on it

    Over 30 degrees in here

    I'm going to kill soon

  • DisruptedCapitalistDisruptedCapitalist rugged, weathered Registered User regular
    Sleep wrote: »
    Whelp that's the second train I couldn't hit because of patriots fans the kid with the PA is still here, but that cadre of drunk college kids seems to be realizing the grueling realities of waiting for the train and why no one on a train platform is super excited at 830 am.

    Yeah, my wife gave up on her train and now I'm giving her a ride in to town. Two trains passed that were so crowded they weren't letting anyone on.

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  • DynagripDynagrip destroy everything you touch Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Liiya wrote: »
    "Are there clouds at night?" - colleague who has never look up at night.

    i had a colleague that didn't realize that water expanded when frozen, she ended up in a Forbes 30 under 30 thing...

    Had another that had Stress = Force / Area on his dry erase board, which for an engineer is like having to have your name tattooed on your forehead.

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  • SleepSleep Registered User regular
    Sleep wrote: »
    Whelp that's the second train I couldn't hit because of patriots fans the kid with the PA is still here, but that cadre of drunk college kids seems to be realizing the grueling realities of waiting for the train and why no one on a train platform is super excited at 830 am.

    Yeah, my wife gave up on her train and now I'm giving her a ride in to town. Two trains passed that were so crowded they weren't letting anyone on.

    Fuckin lol the next one through the station didn't even stop! FmL

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Dynagrip wrote: »
    Liiya wrote: »
    "Are there clouds at night?" - colleague who has never look up at night.

    i had a colleague that didn't realize that water expanded when frozen, she ended up in a Forbes 30 under 30 thing...

    Had another that had Stress = Force / Area on his dry erase board, which for an engineer is like having to have your name tattooed on your forehead.

    I expect that lots of people don't know water expands when it freezes

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    My brother's ex did not, thus the saga of the exploded wine cooler in my sister's freezer.

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  • Al_watAl_wat Registered User regular
    I get worried when people don't know stuff like that at my work.

    Or that heavy water freezes at 4c, not 0. Kind of important to know

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  • BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    My part of the office has started working on potential online accounts fraud. As the tech guy in my department it has fallen to me to teach everyone how the internet works, what a network is, and why a VPN isn't immediately a red flag for fraud.

    Yippie?

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  • El SkidEl Skid The frozen white northRegistered User regular
    Bucketman wrote: »
    My part of the office has started working on potential online accounts fraud. As the tech guy in my department it has fallen to me to teach everyone how the internet works, what a network is, and why a VPN isn't immediately a red flag for fraud.

    Yippie?

    I always find it nice when I have a shining example of how I am adding value to my employer, if nothing else for when year end comes and I have to talk about raises and such. This seems like a bit of a slam dunk in that respect!

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  • DynagripDynagrip destroy everything you touch Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Solar wrote: »
    Dynagrip wrote: »
    Liiya wrote: »
    "Are there clouds at night?" - colleague who has never look up at night.

    i had a colleague that didn't realize that water expanded when frozen, she ended up in a Forbes 30 under 30 thing...

    Had another that had Stress = Force / Area on his dry erase board, which for an engineer is like having to have your name tattooed on your forehead.

    I expect that lots of people don't know water expands when it freezes

    She was an engineer and a new homeowner, she shoulda known!

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  • CelloCello Registered User regular
    Dynagrip wrote: »
    Solar wrote: »
    Dynagrip wrote: »
    Liiya wrote: »
    "Are there clouds at night?" - colleague who has never look up at night.

    i had a colleague that didn't realize that water expanded when frozen, she ended up in a Forbes 30 under 30 thing...

    Had another that had Stress = Force / Area on his dry erase board, which for an engineer is like having to have your name tattooed on your forehead.

    I expect that lots of people don't know water expands when it freezes

    She was an engineer and a new homeowner, she shoulda known!

    If anything, being an engineer makes it more likely she wouldn't know

    Common sense is especially less common in our profession

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  • Drake ChambersDrake Chambers Lay out my formal shorts. Registered User regular
    Snow day for kids, work from home day for me. Woohoo! Really glad I'm lucky enough to have a supervisor who's okay with that.

    This one kind of surprised us. I thought it was done yesterday afternoon but woke up to the cancellation notifications at 5:30.

  • ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    Cello wrote: »
    Dynagrip wrote: »
    Solar wrote: »
    Dynagrip wrote: »
    Liiya wrote: »
    "Are there clouds at night?" - colleague who has never look up at night.

    i had a colleague that didn't realize that water expanded when frozen, she ended up in a Forbes 30 under 30 thing...

    Had another that had Stress = Force / Area on his dry erase board, which for an engineer is like having to have your name tattooed on your forehead.

    I expect that lots of people don't know water expands when it freezes

    She was an engineer and a new homeowner, she shoulda known!

    If anything, being an engineer makes it more likely she wouldn't know

    Common sense is especially less common in our profession

    ... because when you've filled your head with things like tensile strength of 10 gauge aluminum wire, how to manually assemble heptane from those little atom balls, and how many 2 ohm resistors you need to use to get ~1.5 ohms of total resistance across a 3-path parallel circuit, simple things tend to fall out.

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    Testing in the library today. I am kinda proud of this sign I drew.

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  • Anon the FelonAnon the Felon In bat country.Registered User regular
    Bucketman wrote: »
    My part of the office has started working on potential online accounts fraud. As the tech guy in my department it has fallen to me to teach everyone how the internet works, what a network is, and why a VPN isn't immediately a red flag for fraud.

    Yippie?

    I once started a meeting about "Explain the Internet" with "It's all pipes!"

    A joke that I thought was hilarious, but only two people in the room laughed at. The two who understood the complexities of the internet already.

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