On the other hand Harper is pretty as fuck and also the face of a number of MLBs various promotions. So paying extra for the association might have some value.
Glad opening day is finally here. Was getting tough to wait anymore. This off season felt much slower than usual. A lot of the big signings and extensions only happened in the last month (last week for extensions!)
More likely the East will be bunched up because they’ll beat up on each other.
13 years. And I believe...no opt-outs, full no-trade, no deferred money.
I don’t see any way that won’t be regrettable by year 9-10.
You have to remember that if baseball players were paid what they were truly worth on short-term contracts, they'd get way higher yearly salaries than what we're used to. Fangraphs' money value on player seasons isn't perfect, but it's a good quick-and-dirty kludge. It has Harper's last four seasons alone as worth $144m. Trout's already been worth almost $500m in his six+ years.
But there's a sort of mutual perverse incentive whereby players want the security of long-term deals, and GMs have every reason to stretch deals out over longer periods (heck, they probably won't be in the job in five years anyway), so they take way lower than their short-term value in order to stretch out the years. A player who takes a 10-year, $300m deal isn't really expected to be worth $30m every single year. It's more like they'll be worth $50m for five years, then the last five years are tacked on.
So yeah, almost every team will "regret" their big free agent signings a few years down the road. They should be getting enough surplus value in the early years to balance it out.
Opening with a nice win. Lots of good hitting. Rocks have a good line up. Starting pitching, if it stays healthy is decent. But man as always, the bullpen freaks me out.
Still ESPN is pretty bullish on us even. So here is to hoping for a great year.
Was he always overrated/a fraud or are we witnessing the most rapid and steep non-injury-related drop off ever?
Like most people that get bad quickly are old and retire before it even gets half as bad for half as long, but Davis is still getting $23 mill a year guaranteed to be the worst player in MLB history.
Was he always overrated/a fraud or are we witnessing the most rapid and steep non-injury-related drop off ever?
Like most people that get bad quickly are old and retire before it even gets half as bad for half as long, but Davis is still getting $23 mill a year guaranteed to be the worst player in MLB history.
He wasn't a fraud before, but I think age just hit him fast. I recall from a deadspin article before since Davis have been historic in his shittiness prior to the streak. He lost bat speed, and its really exposed him as a bad hitter.
I think its also that baltimore has no one else and is paying him a lot of money, so traditionally someone this putrid would be sent down, but they can't/wont.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
Was he always overrated/a fraud or are we witnessing the most rapid and steep non-injury-related drop off ever?
Like most people that get bad quickly are old and retire before it even gets half as bad for half as long, but Davis is still getting $23 mill a year guaranteed to be the worst player in MLB history.
When you're a 3 true outcome batter and you lose bat speed you quickly become a 1 true outcome batter. Davis has had trouble adapting to this fact.
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So Trevor Rosenthal is having a thing. I feel bad for him because pitchers sometimes never recover from surgery and their career is pretty much fucked forever. But still god damn dude.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
Excellent article on velocity and its effect on the game. I highly recommend reading it.
Also went to a Nats game on Saturday since my dad was in town. In person baseball, even if you are not a big fan of either team, is just a joy. But also, fucking hell people. Wait till a break to get up and go into your seats. We missed multiple hits and such because assholes kept standing up and leaving in the middle of at bats.
Folks, there are breaks between hitters and innings. Use those. Be patient.
The folks standing were all wearing Phillies gear so I can't say I should be surprised.
Nineteen-year-old pitcher Carter Stewart is in agreement with the Fukuoka SoftBank Hawks of the Japanese Pacific League on a six-year contract worth more than $7 million, a groundbreaking deal that could have long-term ramifications for Major League Baseball’s amateur and professional sides, sources told ESPN.
Stewart, who was chosen by the Atlanta Braves with the eighth pick in the 2018 draft out of a Florida high school but did not sign after they reduced their signing-bonus offer due to an alleged injury, was expected to be chosen in the early second round of this June’s draft. By signing with Fukuoka, which has won four of the past five Japan Series, Stewart would guarantee himself significantly more money than he would have made with a major league organization — and could theoretically join the major leagues as a 25-year-old free agent.
I don't blame the kid but much like signing with an NBA team out of high school (assuming they come to their senses and get rid of one and done again) it's only ever going to be an option for a handful of elite prospects.
I wonder if long term it hurts these players getting the fuck-you-pay-me mlb contracts since instead of coming up at 21 and being evaluated and compensated based on how you did vs mlb talent you'll have to face the bias that you were a 2.50 ERA pitcher.... In Japan that they always tack on.
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I don't blame the kid but much like signing with an NBA team out of high school (assuming they come to their senses and get rid of one and done again) it's only ever going to be an option for a handful of elite prospects.
I wonder if long term it hurts these players getting the fuck-you-pay-me mlb contracts since instead of coming up at 21 and being evaluated and compensated based on how you did vs mlb talent you'll have to face the bias that you were a 2.50 ERA pitcher.... In Japan that they always tack on.
but he wouldn't come up at 21. He's go to rookie ball at 21. Best case scenario he makes it to the majors in 2 yrs. That's only if he dominates at every level and the major league club is both competitive and needing his position. Most likely case is he never makes the majors and only gets paid his bonus (estimated at 2m). So he's already coming out ahead going to japan, and if he's an amazing talent can become an international free agent at 25. Traditional path at 25 he'd still be years away from free agency.
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Excellent article on velocity and its effect on the game. I highly recommend reading it.
Also went to a Nats game on Saturday since my dad was in town. In person baseball, even if you are not a big fan of either team, is just a joy. But also, fucking hell people. Wait till a break to get up and go into your seats. We missed multiple hits and such because assholes kept standing up and leaving in the middle of at bats.
Folks, there are breaks between hitters and innings. Use those. Be patient.
The folks standing were all wearing Phillies gear so I can't say I should be surprised.
That bit about precision hitters coming back as an organic solution... The 2014-15 Royals made it to the World Series twice and won the second time by being the team that would not die, clawing back from behind with single after single.
...but instead what everyone picked up on was that their starters almost never lasted more than six innings and had 3-4 relievers for each game at the minimum.
In a way, they were both the possible solution to today's pitchers, and the genesis of taking it to it's current extreme.
Houston with our semi-annual reminder that close seats at baseball games outside the netting are not appropriate for young children. Pretty ugly stuff and while there's initial unconfirmed reports that the girl is relatively OK, nothing is certain yet.
Interesting thought on the value of rookie contracts for whenever the players decide to renegotiate.
Edwin Encarnación, the current HR leader in the AL and one of the most productvie bats in the game at the moment, was traded to the Yankees from the Mariners.
Seattle gets a prospect and half of edwins (remaining?) salary back. Which is to say that a (goodish?) prospect is worth about 7.5 million dollars.
Interesting thought on the value of rookie contracts for whenever the players decide to renegotiate.
Edwin Encarnación, the current HR leader in the AL and one of the most productvie bats in the game at the moment, was traded to the Yankees from the Mariners.
Seattle gets a prospect and half of edwins (remaining?) salary back. Which is to say that a (goodish?) prospect is worth about 7.5 million dollars.
This was a clown shoes deal.
So the prospect that the Yankees sent over to the Mariners originally came to them via the Mariners themselves.
The Mariners had traded the prospect and another to the Yankees a couple years ago for one of the Yankees prospects.
The Mariners have since cut that prospect.
So in two trades the Mariners are less one prospect, Edwin and unloaded half of a salary.
The Yankees basically broke even on prospects and got a guy who is on pace for 40+ home runs and it cost them 7.5 mill in cap space.
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Well, you're disregarding that the trades that brought Encarnacion to Seattle also unloaded a bunch of payroll from the Mariners. And the original trade that sent Then away wasn't just trading prospects, it was for a bullpen addition when they thought they were gonna be a competitive team -- it's easy to mock that now but... okay, it was easy to mock that then too but that's just because it's the Mariners.
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You have to remember that if baseball players were paid what they were truly worth on short-term contracts, they'd get way higher yearly salaries than what we're used to. Fangraphs' money value on player seasons isn't perfect, but it's a good quick-and-dirty kludge. It has Harper's last four seasons alone as worth $144m. Trout's already been worth almost $500m in his six+ years.
But there's a sort of mutual perverse incentive whereby players want the security of long-term deals, and GMs have every reason to stretch deals out over longer periods (heck, they probably won't be in the job in five years anyway), so they take way lower than their short-term value in order to stretch out the years. A player who takes a 10-year, $300m deal isn't really expected to be worth $30m every single year. It's more like they'll be worth $50m for five years, then the last five years are tacked on.
So yeah, almost every team will "regret" their big free agent signings a few years down the road. They should be getting enough surplus value in the early years to balance it out.
Still ESPN is pretty bullish on us even. So here is to hoping for a great year.
Harper goes hitless, but Hoskins with a slam!
Chacin homers in every game he's in.
HISTORY MADE!
Soon to be honored with other Baltimore greats like uhhh The Wire and uhhh some regional food item that people in baltimore like.
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Like most people that get bad quickly are old and retire before it even gets half as bad for half as long, but Davis is still getting $23 mill a year guaranteed to be the worst player in MLB history.
He wasn't a fraud before, but I think age just hit him fast. I recall from a deadspin article before since Davis have been historic in his shittiness prior to the streak. He lost bat speed, and its really exposed him as a bad hitter.
I think its also that baltimore has no one else and is paying him a lot of money, so traditionally someone this putrid would be sent down, but they can't/wont.
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Crabcakes and old bay! C'mon man, it ain't that hard!
I'm a product of the american education system, you're lucky I know baltimore is in new hampshire.
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When you're a 3 true outcome batter and you lose bat speed you quickly become a 1 true outcome batter. Davis has had trouble adapting to this fact.
Eh, Pit Beef would fit better as a stadium eat.
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But hey, Tommy La Stella has 2 home runs today and had 1 last night. In 2018 he had all of one home run in 123 games with the Cubs.
Edit: apparently Trout is day to day with a right groin strain.
And here they go officially blowing the 6-0 lead they had after the 1st inning. Trailing 7-8 now.
Then the Brewers managed to find a way to suck more than the Angels. Hey, we're at .500 now.
So Trevor Rosenthal is having a thing. I feel bad for him because pitchers sometimes never recover from surgery and their career is pretty much fucked forever. But still god damn dude.
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Excellent article on velocity and its effect on the game. I highly recommend reading it.
Also went to a Nats game on Saturday since my dad was in town. In person baseball, even if you are not a big fan of either team, is just a joy. But also, fucking hell people. Wait till a break to get up and go into your seats. We missed multiple hits and such because assholes kept standing up and leaving in the middle of at bats.
Folks, there are breaks between hitters and innings. Use those. Be patient.
The folks standing were all wearing Phillies gear so I can't say I should be surprised.
I wonder if long term it hurts these players getting the fuck-you-pay-me mlb contracts since instead of coming up at 21 and being evaluated and compensated based on how you did vs mlb talent you'll have to face the bias that you were a 2.50 ERA pitcher.... In Japan that they always tack on.
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but he wouldn't come up at 21. He's go to rookie ball at 21. Best case scenario he makes it to the majors in 2 yrs. That's only if he dominates at every level and the major league club is both competitive and needing his position. Most likely case is he never makes the majors and only gets paid his bonus (estimated at 2m). So he's already coming out ahead going to japan, and if he's an amazing talent can become an international free agent at 25. Traditional path at 25 he'd still be years away from free agency.
10 HR against one team before Memorial Day?! The Os must be ecstatic that he's sitting out today.
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That bit about precision hitters coming back as an organic solution... The 2014-15 Royals made it to the World Series twice and won the second time by being the team that would not die, clawing back from behind with single after single.
...but instead what everyone picked up on was that their starters almost never lasted more than six innings and had 3-4 relievers for each game at the minimum.
In a way, they were both the possible solution to today's pitchers, and the genesis of taking it to it's current extreme.
It's been like watching Homer murder the Hamburglar.
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I am right there with you. I have to start my research into who the hell half these guys are...
Still have way too many injuries and pitching is a coin flip on a good night. At least the bats have woken up.
That’s like losing every game for a month. Mariners baseball. Feel the magic
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Hitting the dick off the ball gets a new meaning in Seattle
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The red sox are sending a plane to transport him to boston. I assume that's a good sign as he's safe to be transported.
Edwin Encarnación, the current HR leader in the AL and one of the most productvie bats in the game at the moment, was traded to the Yankees from the Mariners.
Seattle gets a prospect and half of edwins (remaining?) salary back. Which is to say that a (goodish?) prospect is worth about 7.5 million dollars.
This was a clown shoes deal.
So the prospect that the Yankees sent over to the Mariners originally came to them via the Mariners themselves.
The Mariners had traded the prospect and another to the Yankees a couple years ago for one of the Yankees prospects.
The Mariners have since cut that prospect.
So in two trades the Mariners are less one prospect, Edwin and unloaded half of a salary.
The Yankees basically broke even on prospects and got a guy who is on pace for 40+ home runs and it cost them 7.5 mill in cap space.
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