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    IsornIsorn Registered User regular
    I appreciate Symphogear just randomly inserting a song about beef stroganoff in the middle of an episode.

    I do sorta question the recipe but they are so enthusiastic about it I will let it pass.

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    GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    Is Tanya the evil good?

    i like it as like a kafka-esque comedy where the main character is an asshole but god is also an asshole and is fucking around with said main character.

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    StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    Continuing to catch up on Demon Slayer. Now on episodes 15-16.
    It's amazing how they took the concept of "puppet-master demon" and made it just interminably dull to actually watch. Between Zenitsu being a complete and utter waste of time every single time he shows up and the poorly paced "action" scenes where the puppet-ed slayers just stand around waiting for Tanjiro figure out a plan (that ends up being totally pointless anyway), this show has taken a pretty quick nosedive. Desperately hoping it gets better, because I like Tanjiro and Nezuko a lot. And Inosuke is...tolerable, and occasionally even well-written at times. But man, I am just not a fan of pretty much any of the decisions that have been made since Tanjiro left the city.

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    King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular


    They did another one piece Cup noodle High school su short.

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    miscellaneousinsanitymiscellaneousinsanity grass grows, birds fly, sun shines, and brother, i hurt peopleRegistered User regular
    oh hell yes Bump of Chicken

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    StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    Okay, I've been pretty down on this spider-demon arc of Demon Slayer so far

    But episode 19 fucking ruled

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    ZandraconZandracon Registered User regular

    huh, yeah, seeing it animated does make it more obvious to me that kubo designed the main characters

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    3DCG huh

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    IsornIsorn Registered User regular

    Smile at the Runway starts with the story of Fujito Chiyuki, an aspiring fashion model and daughter of a fledgling Modeling Agency, Mille neige. Ever since she was little, Chiyuki's dream was to be the star model of her dad's agency and perform at Paris Fashion Week. With great looks and a gifted environment, it seemed like she was on the right track to fulfill her dream, but she soon found herself faced with a seemingly insurmountable wall when her height stopped growing at 158cm (5'2" ), hopelessly too short to be a professional model.

    Although Chiyuki still kept on believing in herself for years despite everyone telling her it's impossible, Chiyuki's resolve starts to crumble as she enters her last year of high school. This is when she meets Tsumura Ikuto, a lame classmate with a surprising talent for designing clothes, who is also considering giving up his dream due to unfortunate circumstances. Together, they begin the journey of doing the impossible in order to realize their dreams.

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    azith28azith28 Registered User regular
    Is Tanya the evil good?

    Watching Tanya is kind of like watching Overlord where the person is obviously not a good guy. (Without the fanservice). Tanya however is doing what shes doing to survive, while still having a very cold logical (read: merciless) personality. It's kill or be killed in her view. And ignore the Nazi-loli claims. this is WW1 equivilent, not WW2.

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    crwthcrwth THAT'S IT Registered User regular
    Isorn wrote: »

    Smile at the Runway starts with the story of Fujito Chiyuki, an aspiring fashion model and daughter of a fledgling Modeling Agency, Mille neige. Ever since she was little, Chiyuki's dream was to be the star model of her dad's agency and perform at Paris Fashion Week. With great looks and a gifted environment, it seemed like she was on the right track to fulfill her dream, but she soon found herself faced with a seemingly insurmountable wall when her height stopped growing at 158cm (5'2" ), hopelessly too short to be a professional model.

    Although Chiyuki still kept on believing in herself for years despite everyone telling her it's impossible, Chiyuki's resolve starts to crumble as she enters her last year of high school. This is when she meets Tsumura Ikuto, a lame classmate with a surprising talent for designing clothes, who is also considering giving up his dream due to unfortunate circumstances. Together, they begin the journey of doing the impossible in order to realize their dreams.

    this is what kubo should have done!

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Ehhhh Overlord goes much deeper into the horror and the comedy bits.

    Tanya is just like, a very bad person put in a very bad situation by a very dickish god

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Jesus... Killua isn't that cool. It's not worth all of this shit just to hang out with him!

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    TetraTetra The Grumpiest Baby Registered User regular
    edited September 2019
    Me and my partner just watched the first episode of Carol and Tuesday on Netflix and I hope it's good overall because that first ep was "totes adorbs"

    I've heard very good things about it, although the general impression I got was that the plot drags between episodes 7-12, before picking back up again. I haven't actually watched it myself, I think I am going to wait until both halves are out on Netflix so I can watch it in all its dubbed glory. Hopefully that will be sometime around December so I can include it in any anime-of-the-year lists I come up with.

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    Jesus... Killua isn't that cool. It's not worth all of this shit just to hang out with him!

    so, there's a reason he is acting like he is and it is definitely not what you think

    let's just say his family is even more awful

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    azith28azith28 Registered User regular
    Ehhhh Overlord goes much deeper into the horror and the comedy bits.

    Tanya is just like, a very bad person put in a very bad situation by a very dickish god

    You seem to think that the same kind of person who is hired by a company to evaluate and cut unproductive employees is exactly as 'bad' as a ruthless general on a bloody battlefield.

    See, thats the comedy you are missing. the kind of comparison that he/she is completely equipped for the job simply because she had this previous profession is a joke in itself. It's dark comedy at least. It's on par with saying a guy who gets isekai'ed will be amazing at fighting just because he played a lot of video games.

    I really like both series. I just appriciate the dark humor of both more i think.

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    MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    One thing about Tanya the Evil is that she keeps trying to do everything in her power to get away from the battlefields but because of constant miscommunication with her higher ups keeps getting sent into more and more dangerous situations because they think that's what she wants.

    Not to say she's good, far from it, but she doesn't want to actually be fighting

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    King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    edited September 2019
    Tanya doesnt strike me as being bad initially. Maybe indifferent to a fault but not malicious. They were killed for being the guy told to fire somebody( for justifiable reasons to boot) then got fucked over by a petty being because they're an atheist

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Tanya:
    Dudes in her unit don’t want to fight, she assigns them to a pillbox assuming (correctly) that they will die there

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    Tanya:
    Dudes in her unit don’t want to fight, she assigns them to a pillbox assuming (correctly) that they will die there

    That doesn’t happen in the manga. She’s wayyy more malicious in the anime

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    StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    Tanya absolutely is a terrible person.

    Even in the real world, they thought they were superior to their coworkers and enjoyed firing them.

    Unfortunately, the anime often likes to portray Tanya as a cool battle genius.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Tanya:
    Dudes in her unit don’t want to fight, she assigns them to a pillbox assuming (correctly) that they will die there

    That doesn’t happen in the manga. She’s wayyy more malicious in the anime

    Yeah, but we are talking about the anime

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Stilts wrote: »
    Tanya absolutely is a terrible person.

    Even in the real world, they thought they were superior to their coworkers and enjoyed firing them.

    Unfortunately, the anime often likes to portray Tanya as a cool battle genius.
    The impression I got was that she was cheating by using her knowledge of WW1 history.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Stilts wrote: »
    Tanya absolutely is a terrible person.

    Even in the real world, they thought they were superior to their coworkers and enjoyed firing them.

    Unfortunately, the anime often likes to portray Tanya as a cool battle genius.
    The impression I got was that she was cheating by using her knowledge of WW1 history.

    She absolutely is. By recognizing aspects of the orders she's given she can pick out if it's a major battle and how it went down. In the manga she even was almost on the verge of defecting because she recognized that current orders would lead to an event with colossal loss if not addressed

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Hey, anyone remember this one Naruto-based browser game? It was a turn-based pvp thing where you’d build a team of 3, and gain random types of energy each turn that you could use for attacks, based on what energy requirements each character’s moves had. It had no real animations; it was static character portraits.

    I remember playing a bunch of it some years ago, and I kinda want to try it out if it still exists. But I can’t remember the name of it. Do any of you?

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    rhylithrhylith Death Rabbits HoustonRegistered User regular
    edited September 2019
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Tanya:
    Dudes in her unit don’t want to fight, she assigns them to a pillbox assuming (correctly) that they will die there

    That doesn’t happen in the manga. She’s wayyy more malicious in the anime

    Good thing this is the anime thread.

    On most shows my entire opinion is based on the anime because I don’t want to feel like I’m just rewatching something.

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    KamarKamar Registered User regular
    rhylith wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Tanya:
    Dudes in her unit don’t want to fight, she assigns them to a pillbox assuming (correctly) that they will die there

    That doesn’t happen in the manga. She’s wayyy more malicious in the anime

    Good thing this is the anime thread.

    On most shows my entire opinion is based on the anime because I don’t want to feel like I’m just rewatching something.

    This is why I mostly don't watch adaptations. Maybe catch the cool moments on YouTube.

    It helps that it takes way less time (outside of like, hypercompressed adaptations of denser light novels), and that it's way easier for me to sit and focus on a light novel or manga compared to a show.

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    IsornIsorn Registered User regular
    I kinda prefer watching anime over reading manga. While I like reading it because the art is usually better and you get better characterization/worldbuilding. It is just that the added voices/music and animation does a lot for me.

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    MorivethMoriveth BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWNRegistered User regular
    Sometimes I'll read the manga and watch the anime, because it's kinda neat to see what's changed/added/removed. MHA has a fair few parts that were expanded in the manga, which ended up being some of my favorite parts!

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    JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    I generally prefer original format.

    Manga -> anime is usually padded too much.
    Anime -> manga doesn't have the pacing issue, but tends to lose in translation.

    Also I just don't have the time for that many 30 minute shows.

    So I mostly read manga, and check out well animated fights.

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    DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    Vinland Saga is a manga without any padding and the anime seems to be a very faithful adaptation so far.

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Moriveth wrote: »
    Sometimes I'll read the manga and watch the anime, because it's kinda neat to see what's changed/added/removed. MHA has a fair few parts that were expanded in the manga, which ended up being some of my favorite parts!

    I liked Froppy’s smuggler adventure, and the smug tea lady.

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    AstharielAsthariel The Book Eater Registered User regular
    And I am extremely happy about that.

    And call me an arrogant snob, but it kinda breaks my heart that everyone talks about Demon Slayer, but there is not much hype around about Vinland Saga. It is pretty much the best series of the season!

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    DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    Asthariel wrote: »
    And I am extremely happy about that.

    And call me an arrogant snob, but it kinda breaks my heart that everyone talks about Demon Slayer, but there is not much hype around about Vinland Saga. It is pretty much the best series of the season!

    Amazon series never get as much discussion.

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    THESPOOKYTHESPOOKY papa! Registered User regular
    edited September 2019
    Tanya is worth at least watching a supercut of the combat scenes

    I have very mixed feelings about the story arc of the show but it's goddang purdy

    It also addresses the question of "Why doesn't anyone in the Harry Potter universe just pick up a gun" with "guns are magic wands, and the only spell they cast is bullets", which is hilarious to me

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    rhylithrhylith Death Rabbits HoustonRegistered User regular
    Asthariel wrote: »
    And I am extremely happy about that.

    And call me an arrogant snob, but it kinda breaks my heart that everyone talks about Demon Slayer, but there is not much hype around about Vinland Saga. It is pretty much the best series of the season!

    Vinland Saga is super, super good but I figured that most people here aren't watching it.

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    JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    Padded probably isn't the right word. Let's go with less concise? I actually like a ton of adaptations. Let me give an example of what I mean from one of them.

    This scene from mob psycho s2 is beautifully animated, and great:

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=kM3SVVSpghI


    But I feel like the original actually conveys the use of power in a more creative manner via panelling, and in like 1/10th the time to read:

    https://m.imgur.com/a/KqGqYZk

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    IsornIsorn Registered User regular
    I also probably prefer anime because I can't visualize things very well. I know some people can read books and scenes play out in their mind as a movie. Even if an author describes a character in detail I can't picture it at all. Just a vague idea of what the person would look like. In my mind it is more a group of words that I assign to a character rather than a visual image.

    It kinda sucks.

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    l_gl_g Registered User regular
    Isorn wrote: »
    I also probably prefer anime because I can't visualize things very well. I know some people can read books and scenes play out in their mind as a movie. Even if an author describes a character in detail I can't picture it at all. Just a vague idea of what the person would look like. In my mind it is more a group of words that I assign to a character rather than a visual image.

    It kinda sucks.

    There's definitely a wide spectrum of aphantasia, and though it is a very hard thing to study it's very much a thing that some powerful creatives attest to. One of the greatest artists in Disney history, Glen Keane, says he cannot actually "see" any of the characters he draws in his mind! Ed Catmull feels the same way, but he absolutely has a top-notch understanding of spatial relationships given the mathematics that he helped invent.
    One article on it: https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/shortcuts/2019/apr/10/aphantasia-why-a-disney-animator-draws-a-blank-on-his-own-creations

    One thing I'm really curious about is that for people who report aphantasiatic-ness, is how well do they get a sense of "motion" from still images that are designed to convey a sense of motion or moving action. Like, in that Mob Psycho page @Jragghen posted, what sense of motion do you get from what is happening in the panels?

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    IsornIsorn Registered User regular
    l_g wrote: »
    Isorn wrote: »
    I also probably prefer anime because I can't visualize things very well. I know some people can read books and scenes play out in their mind as a movie. Even if an author describes a character in detail I can't picture it at all. Just a vague idea of what the person would look like. In my mind it is more a group of words that I assign to a character rather than a visual image.

    It kinda sucks.

    There's definitely a wide spectrum of aphantasia, and though it is a very hard thing to study it's very much a thing that some powerful creatives attest to. One of the greatest artists in Disney history, Glen Keane, says he cannot actually "see" any of the characters he draws in his mind! Ed Catmull feels the same way, but he absolutely has a top-notch understanding of spatial relationships given the mathematics that he helped invent.
    One article on it: https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/shortcuts/2019/apr/10/aphantasia-why-a-disney-animator-draws-a-blank-on-his-own-creations

    One thing I'm really curious about is that for people who report aphantasiatic-ness, is how well do they get a sense of "motion" from still images that are designed to convey a sense of motion or moving action. Like, in that Mob Psycho page Jragghen posted, what sense of motion do you get from what is happening in the panels?


    Basically no sense of motion for me personally. I get what panels are trying to convey but it doesn't play out in my mind that way. It is just a set of still images.

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