Snyder makes some fun movies. I don't really follow the big hate boner people have for him. Man of Steel was entertaining, his zombie flick was fun, 300 was entertaining. He has a zombie heist flick coming out on Netflix this year with Tig Notaro and what's his face who played Drax, looks like it should be some fun.
I loathe him because he fundamentally fails to understand what he has to work with.
Like FFS, I was actually groaning when I realized I was going into another action sequence in Suckerpunch because I was so utterly bored and apathic to the plight of the girls.
Wait are you saying you don't like Snyder? I didn't get that vibe from your last ten posts on the subject
My contention is that his movies aren't fun or insightful or able to grasp the subject matter that he routinely handles.
Also I want him to refund the money I spent on suckerpunch.
Dude, you aint getting it. He TOLD you what you were getting with the title of the movie....a suckerpunch. You paid for EXACTLY what you received.
Listen, I went into that movie fully prepared for it to be bad and working on the assumption that if it was I could at least laugh at that.
But this... abomination sat perfectly in the gap between those two points that I simply couldn't give a shit and the big twist was telegraphed during the first meet up with old man.
Like this shit is just straight up incompetent.
Admittedly, it wasn't a good joke, but I think you missed the joke.
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At this point I'm not convinced the Flash movie will ever happen. It's going to be the Duke Nukem Forever of superhero movies (okay, it came out, but it's delays were due to constantly going back and starting over, which fits this).
Nobody remembers the singer. The song remains.
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"We're finishing right now the black and white version of Justice League. It's called the Justice Is Gray Edition. That's what I call it."
What is this? Does Snyder have some kind of infatuation with the Shiny and Chrome edition of Fury Road? Is he frustrated he didn’t come up with it first? Is this going to cycle back around to eventually a version of Justice League that’s a series of 75 silent movie chapters ala Flash Gordon?
"We're finishing right now the black and white version of Justice League. It's called the Justice Is Gray Edition. That's what I call it."
What is this? Does Snyder have some kind of infatuation with the Shiny and Chrome edition of Fury Road? Is he frustrated he didn’t come up with it first? Is this going to cycle back around to eventually a version of Justice League that’s a series of 75 silent movie chapters ala Flash Gordon?
"We're finishing right now the black and white version of Justice League. It's called the Justice Is Gray Edition. That's what I call it."
What is this? Does Snyder have some kind of infatuation with the Shiny and Chrome edition of Fury Road? Is he frustrated he didn’t come up with it first? Is this going to cycle back around to eventually a version of Justice League that’s a series of 75 silent movie chapters ala Flash Gordon?
I think we can make this happen.
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AtomikaLive fast and get fucked or whateverRegistered Userregular
Some breaking news:
- Supergirl is gonna be in The Flash movie with Ezra Klein!
- She’s already cast! And she’s Latina!
- Her suit matches Henry Cavill’s Superman suit!
PowerGirl has long been a favorite character of mine, so anything that brings her a step closer to life is a good thing, so let’s rejoice in positive news for the DCEU for once.
"We're finishing right now the black and white version of Justice League. It's called the Justice Is Gray Edition. That's what I call it."
What is this? Does Snyder have some kind of infatuation with the Shiny and Chrome edition of Fury Road? Is he frustrated he didn’t come up with it first? Is this going to cycle back around to eventually a version of Justice League that’s a series of 75 silent movie chapters ala Flash Gordon?
I think we can make this happen.
Shooting in black and white in the 21st century comes across as the kind of thing that you either do for artistic short films or because you're a film student that slept through the first month of photography and thus don't understand the importance of color.
Fortunately, as someone who was awake through film school, I can kind of explain why it's important.
Color tone is a form of mind control, in that our brain's are more stimulated by bright colors then we are by more muted ones and thus our eye will immediately be drawn to them first over and above anything else. This technique is also used to help establish the emotional tone of a scene; warmer color tones tend to denote more welcoming and happy environments while colder ones tend to have a greater focus on serious or somber ones.
Thus the idea that you would ever do a 4 hour long superhero movie that was shot in desaturated sepia tone and then reduced to black and white strikes me as being akin to a university study on the human brain; can you actually maintain focus when you are robbing people of the most basic stimulation?
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As someone relatively detached from all this and devoid of any real opinion on Zack Snyder, I was mildly intrigued by the idea of the Snyder Cut.
But putting it in 4:3 aspect ratio and insisting it's better in black and white lets me know upfront Snyder is so junior high capital-D "DEEP" that it's gonna be far worse than the original. And not just cause it's longer
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Black and white lets you easily paper over a lot of bad CG, and cutting down the aspect ratio clips out a ton of visual space that costs money to fill. Considering the original Justice League had the most shitty CG I've seen since, I dunno, the Star Wars Prequels, taking out all the color is about as much as they can do to turn the fuckawful clashing CG into something that looks semi-coherent. Maybe by doing that, everybody will look like they're in the setting they're acting like they're in, rather than it being glaringly obvious it's a handful of people on badly-done green screen.
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DCEU can't get Superman right, so I doubt they can get Supergirl right.
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They got the kindness of the character, but none of her energy or physicality. Wonder Woman is a woman of action and a bruiser, to boot. She doesn’t shrink away for years or wait pensively to solve problems. If anything, Diana is too impulsive and quick to use violence.
They got the kindness of the character, but none of her energy or physicality. Wonder Woman is a woman of action and a bruiser, to boot. She doesn’t shrink away for years or wait pensively to solve problems. If anything, Diana is too impulsive and quick to use violence.
Makes sense. They had to change something to make her different from Clark and Bruce.
They got the kindness of the character, but none of her energy or physicality. Wonder Woman is a woman of action and a bruiser, to boot. She doesn’t shrink away for years or wait pensively to solve problems. If anything, Diana is too impulsive and quick to use violence.
I mean, where was that shown to not be true? Yes her secret identity is an academic, but we see her kind of excessively kicking ass over a fairly minor thing (on the super hero scale) in the mall scene in WW2.
That being said, seeing as how each "verse" of each comic thing is it's own retelling, and we know the comics aren't afraid to be fairly divergent, why NOT have Diana be the rational one and Clark or someone else be the hotheaded one?
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They got the kindness of the character, but none of her energy or physicality. Wonder Woman is a woman of action and a bruiser, to boot. She doesn’t shrink away for years or wait pensively to solve problems. If anything, Diana is too impulsive and quick to use violence.
I mean, where was that shown to not be true? Yes her secret identity is an academic, but we see her kind of excessively kicking ass over a fairly minor thing (on the super hero scale) in the mall scene in WW2.
That being said, seeing as how each "verse" of each comic thing is it's own retelling, and we know the comics aren't afraid to be fairly divergent, why NOT have Diana be the rational one and Clark or someone else be the hotheaded one?
As someone relatively detached from all this and devoid of any real opinion on Zack Snyder, I was mildly intrigued by the idea of the Snyder Cut.
But putting it in 4:3 aspect ratio and insisting it's better in black and white lets me know upfront Snyder is so junior high capital-D "DEEP" that it's gonna be far worse than the original. And not just cause it's longer
All this time I thought 4:3 was some kind of meme mocking Snyder's love of IMAX aspect ratios and the like. I didn't realize it was an actual thing.
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As someone relatively detached from all this and devoid of any real opinion on Zack Snyder, I was mildly intrigued by the idea of the Snyder Cut.
But putting it in 4:3 aspect ratio and insisting it's better in black and white lets me know upfront Snyder is so junior high capital-D "DEEP" that it's gonna be far worse than the original. And not just cause it's longer
All this time I thought 4:3 was some kind of meme mocking Snyder's love of IMAX aspect ratios and the like. I didn't realize it was an actual thing.
It's also used as something to help set contrast between him and the other characters; like without ever saying a single word we know that SMN is a throwback to 1930's detective films and are thus already prepped mentally for the mannerisms and attitude the character will exhibit. Frankly it was brilliant as a decision to include him when the development team could have run with any of a dozen other iterations of the character.
The other good example of using black and white for effect is of course this:
It's also used as something to help set contrast between him and the other characters; like without ever saying a single word we know that SMN is a throwback to 1930's detective films and are thus already prepped mentally for the mannerisms and attitude the character will exhibit. Frankly it was brilliant as a decision to include him when the development team could have run with any of a dozen other iterations of the character.
The other good example of using black and white for effect is of course this:
Black & White is a very different medium than color. It can be great, if planned for! A big budget super hero film that is 4 hours long really isn't the place.
Snyder's Justice League sounds like the most pretentious film in a long time. Which... kinda tracks for Snyder.
Bolded for the part that really needs to be emphasized here; this fucker is going to be long and going by his previous works pretentious as fuck, so unless the goal is to try and cause the viewers attention span to atrophy I really can't see the point in robbing them of visual stimulation from color.
Black & White is a very different medium than color. It can be great, if planned for! A big budget super hero film that is 4 hours long really isn't the place.
Snyder's Justice League sounds like the most pretentious film in a long time. Which... kinda tracks for Snyder.
Bolded for the part that really needs to be emphasized here; this fucker is going to be long and going by his previous works pretentious as fuck, so unless the goal is to try and cause the viewers attention span to atrophy I really can't see the point in robbing them of visual stimulation from color.
Right, Batman v Superman was overly convoluted as it was. I can only imagine what kind of pointlessness he'll fill four hours with.
They got the kindness of the character, but none of her energy or physicality. Wonder Woman is a woman of action and a bruiser, to boot. She doesn’t shrink away for years or wait pensively to solve problems. If anything, Diana is too impulsive and quick to use violence.
I mean, where was that shown to not be true? Yes her secret identity is an academic, but we see her kind of excessively kicking ass over a fairly minor thing (on the super hero scale) in the mall scene in WW2.
That being said, seeing as how each "verse" of each comic thing is it's own retelling, and we know the comics aren't afraid to be fairly divergent, why NOT have Diana be the rational one and Clark or someone else be the hotheaded one?
You’re asking us to carry a lot of unearned water
Not really asking you to do anything? I simply said "here's what we've observed" then "comics can be different, why couldn't something be different". Not saying it is. It was entirely about your "wonder woman has to be this way" statement.
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This is a guy who thinks Rorshach is a hero to admire, so him seeing things in black and white isn't surprising.
Admittedly, it wasn't a good joke, but I think you missed the joke.
https://film.avclub.com/sasha-calle-is-your-new-supergirl-in-the-flash-movie-1846313817
What is this? Does Snyder have some kind of infatuation with the Shiny and Chrome edition of Fury Road? Is he frustrated he didn’t come up with it first? Is this going to cycle back around to eventually a version of Justice League that’s a series of 75 silent movie chapters ala Flash Gordon?
I think we can make this happen.
Radio play.
Sponsored by BOSE.
"You can hear the grimdark!"
- Supergirl is gonna be in The Flash movie with Ezra Klein!
- She’s already cast! And she’s Latina!
- Her suit matches Henry Cavill’s Superman suit!
PowerGirl has long been a favorite character of mine, so anything that brings her a step closer to life is a good thing, so let’s rejoice in positive news for the DCEU for once.
Shooting in black and white in the 21st century comes across as the kind of thing that you either do for artistic short films or because you're a film student that slept through the first month of photography and thus don't understand the importance of color.
Fortunately, as someone who was awake through film school, I can kind of explain why it's important.
Color tone is a form of mind control, in that our brain's are more stimulated by bright colors then we are by more muted ones and thus our eye will immediately be drawn to them first over and above anything else. This technique is also used to help establish the emotional tone of a scene; warmer color tones tend to denote more welcoming and happy environments while colder ones tend to have a greater focus on serious or somber ones.
Thus the idea that you would ever do a 4 hour long superhero movie that was shot in desaturated sepia tone and then reduced to black and white strikes me as being akin to a university study on the human brain; can you actually maintain focus when you are robbing people of the most basic stimulation?
:P
But putting it in 4:3 aspect ratio and insisting it's better in black and white lets me know upfront Snyder is so junior high capital-D "DEEP" that it's gonna be far worse than the original. And not just cause it's longer
They haven’t gotten anything right other than Harley and Aquaman
I thought the first Wonder Woman was fine, and while I haven't seen it yet, I thought the consensus was that Shazam was fun too.
Hey, JK Simmons as Gordon was inspired...
Most brilliant 15 seconds in the DCEU
I agree mostly. You only missed Shazam, which they got very right also.
They also got Wonder Woman right in the first movie but then completely botched her in the second.
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Makes sense. They had to change something to make her different from Clark and Bruce.
I mean, where was that shown to not be true? Yes her secret identity is an academic, but we see her kind of excessively kicking ass over a fairly minor thing (on the super hero scale) in the mall scene in WW2.
That being said, seeing as how each "verse" of each comic thing is it's own retelling, and we know the comics aren't afraid to be fairly divergent, why NOT have Diana be the rational one and Clark or someone else be the hotheaded one?
You’re asking us to carry a lot of unearned water
All this time I thought 4:3 was some kind of meme mocking Snyder's love of IMAX aspect ratios and the like. I didn't realize it was an actual thing.
Imax is 1.33:1 which is....yeah
Meanwhile, this is how Wonder Woman used color.
It's also used as something to help set contrast between him and the other characters; like without ever saying a single word we know that SMN is a throwback to 1930's detective films and are thus already prepped mentally for the mannerisms and attitude the character will exhibit. Frankly it was brilliant as a decision to include him when the development team could have run with any of a dozen other iterations of the character.
The other good example of using black and white for effect is of course this:
"I think this stuff just kicked in."
Snyder's Justice League sounds like the most pretentious film in a long time. Which... kinda tracks for Snyder.
Bolded for the part that really needs to be emphasized here; this fucker is going to be long and going by his previous works pretentious as fuck, so unless the goal is to try and cause the viewers attention span to atrophy I really can't see the point in robbing them of visual stimulation from color.
Right, Batman v Superman was overly convoluted as it was. I can only imagine what kind of pointlessness he'll fill four hours with.
People, people, no need to argue.
One of those hours is just Batman killing mooks in slow motion, set to John Galt's speech, spoken as lyrics to a backing soundtrack of Hallelujah.
But it has to be the "epic" "slow" version of the song.
Not really asking you to do anything? I simply said "here's what we've observed" then "comics can be different, why couldn't something be different". Not saying it is. It was entirely about your "wonder woman has to be this way" statement.