I don't remember anyone having a beam fight at all in Legion
At the end of s1 they kind run at each other and explode at the end of a big climactic fight that the protagonist wins because he believes in himself or something? It's basically a beam fight
Uh
Doesn't
Sid kiss David to do a body swap and get Farouk to transfer and then Farouk basically body hops around between each person until ending up in the flight of the concords guy?
I don't remember what you're describing at all but maybe all of these things happen
I don't remember anyone having a beam fight at all in Legion
At the end of s1 they kind run at each other and explode at the end of a big climactic fight that the protagonist wins because he believes in himself or something? It's basically a beam fight
Uh
Doesn't
Sid kiss David to do a body swap and get Farouk to transfer and then Farouk basically body hops around between each person until ending up in the flight of the concords guy?
I don't remember what you're describing at all but maybe all of these things happen
Reasonably. The story ended up having very few sword fights and mostly the trials were arbitrary things the person running the contest chose to rig the outcome, and the swords were more of an entry ticket.
It's the protagonist and villain confronting each other with their powers, clashing directly, and the protagonist winning because he has the more powerful powers / the "stronger will" / true love / etc
This reads exactly the same to me as the end of Rise of Skywalker or the climax in Captain Marvel or whenever Ryu hadokens someone else's hadoken
I never finished the House of X stuff but I liked what I read. I am still a bit cranking at Secret War killing off Wolverine and the X-Men and New X-Men which were having some excellent runs. But that was years ago and I should let it go.
I don't remember anyone having a beam fight at all in Legion
At the end of s1 they kind run at each other and explode at the end of a big climactic fight that the protagonist wins because he believes in himself or something? It's basically a beam fight
Uh
Doesn't
Sid kiss David to do a body swap and get Farouk to transfer and then Farouk basically body hops around between each person until ending up in the flight of the concords guy?
I don't remember what you're describing at all but maybe all of these things happen
They're not using projectiles, but it's exactly the same trope, and it's super goofy and jarring in a show like this
A beam fight would be them hitting each other and then grunting and yelling for a while and then one triumphs, ie a dumb and stupid trope that is never interesting
This is a superior force banishing a hostile intruder, he’s just immediately stronger. The end. Shadow king is a weakened parasite. He later gets his groove back and so can force a fight like that.
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So a bunch of white guys are going to write a film about how non-white people couldn't have done what they did?
I hope it never gets made
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I never finished the House of X stuff but I liked what I read. I am still a bit cranking at Secret War killing off Wolverine and the X-Men and New X-Men which were having some excellent runs. But that was years ago and I should let it go.
Civil War is obviously designed to pit heroes against each other no matter what, but also debating the merits of the accords is kinda missing the point.
Captain America had previously been a good soldier who followed orders and worked for the powers that be, and that ended up helping out the baddies, and just generally resulting in stuff that Cap wasn't morally OK with. He's opposed to the accords because he's previously erred too far on the side of following authority.
Iron Man had previously been all like, "Fuck you it's my property and you can't tell me what I do with it." and now he's feeling guilt over the lives lost because of his suit. He doesn't trust himself and feels like he needs to be put under tighter controls.
The actual nitty gritty details of the accords don't matter, which is why the movie mostly just blows right past providing any details. it's about these two characters and their internal motivations colliding with each other. Each feels the need to atone for their previous errors by reversing how they've acted in the past. That brings them into conflict with each other. The story doesn't care about "who's right," the story doesn't care about the merits of the accords overall, it's about the characters emotions and attempts to fix what they see as previous mistakes.
Debating over "who's right" kinda just seems like missing the forest for the trees.
A trap is for fish: when you've got the fish, you can forget the trap. A snare is for rabbits: when you've got the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words are for meaning: when you've got the meaning, you can forget the words.
I don't remember anyone having a beam fight at all in Legion
At the end of s1 they kind run at each other and explode at the end of a big climactic fight that the protagonist wins because he believes in himself or something? It's basically a beam fight
Uh
Doesn't
Sid kiss David to do a body swap and get Farouk to transfer and then Farouk basically body hops around between each person until ending up in the flight of the concords guy?
I don't remember what you're describing at all but maybe all of these things happen
They're not using projectiles, but it's exactly the same trope, and it's super goofy and jarring in a show like this
A beam fight would be them hitting each other and then grunting and yelling for a while and then one triumphs, ie a dumb and stupid trope that is never interesting
This is a superior force banishing a hostile intruder, he’s just immediately stronger. The end. Shadow king is a weakened parasite. He later gets his groove back and so can force a fight like that.
The protagonist just flatly winning because he's stronger is the trope of a beam fight. It's not as drawn out, but the dramatic (and very goofy) slowmo charge as their powers build up around them serves the exact same function. That's pretty boring, and it's boring here, I think.
I didn't enjoy how much the big climactic battle in Endgame was 100% an arbitrary plot contrivance
Everything in entertainment is an arbitrary plot contrivance.
Yeah but this was more arbitrary than most
It was a big punchup at the end of a comic book movie.
Arbitrary is directly the opposite of what it was.
It was total happenstance that Thanos would end up showing up at the end, he was mostly there because of bad luck, and what he wanted to do and why didn't really make any sense he was just angry that guys from a different timeline did time travel about the plan he otherwise had? And his new plan makes how dumb his original plan is even way more obvious!
If Tony Stark's iron man suit had durability would he still be wrong about the events of Civil War the movie though?
I'm on Captain America's side in that movie but holy shit is his argument so bad. It's like the screenwriters phoned in that whole philosophical discussion with the laziest dialogue possible because they were impatient to get back to banging action figures against each other.
I'm vaguely on iron man's side on it - that these super powerful vigilantes should have some sort of legal framework or oversight to operate within - but he's such an unsympathetic shit of a character and the actual sovokia accord proposition is so cartoonishly bad that you're kind of shunted into siding against him.
i mean i know it's by design but come on marvel. is there some reason why you have to make your movies dumb and boring?
That's exactly it, yeah. There was ample room for Captain America to make the argument that the Avengers had no say in the law's creation, that it's entirely one-sided, something something democracy the people get a say in the laws that govern them somethingmumble consent of the governed.
Instead, Cap's entire argument is basically 'laws suck!'
Of course that only holds so long as you only ever think about the Avengers viewpoint, and not the viewpoint of the people living in the places they go blow stuff up in. The accords is those people saying "nobody gets to decide to go avenging in our country unless the UN approves" - which is nominally their right to do so, choosing the laws that govern them (and everybody else in their country)
Cap's position is literally "we should decide where and when we go and damn what the people who live there think about it"
It's the protagonist and villain confronting each other with their powers, clashing directly, and the protagonist winning because he has the more powerful powers / the "stronger will" / true love / etc
This reads exactly the same to me as the end of Rise of Skywalker or the climax in Captain Marvel or whenever Ryu hadokens someone else's hadoken
The protagonist isn't winning.
Farouk leaves and goes into that guy at the end of the hallway. He's trying to escape because he's been found out and he succeeds in doing so, which sets up season 2 quite nicely.
It's more actiony than cerebral but that's, I think, kind of the point in that it is a misdirect. David thinks he's winning and is now in control, but he's not.
I don't remember anyone having a beam fight at all in Legion
At the end of s1 they kind run at each other and explode at the end of a big climactic fight that the protagonist wins because he believes in himself or something? It's basically a beam fight
Uh
Doesn't
Sid kiss David to do a body swap and get Farouk to transfer and then Farouk basically body hops around between each person until ending up in the flight of the concords guy?
I don't remember what you're describing at all but maybe all of these things happen
They're not using projectiles, but it's exactly the same trope, and it's super goofy and jarring in a show like this
A beam fight would be them hitting each other and then grunting and yelling for a while and then one triumphs, ie a dumb and stupid trope that is never interesting
This is a superior force banishing a hostile intruder, he’s just immediately stronger. The end. Shadow king is a weakened parasite. He later gets his groove back and so can force a fight like that.
The protagonist just flatly winning because he's stronger is the trope of a beam fight. It's not as drawn out, but the dramatic (and very goofy) slowmo charge as their powers build up around them serves the exact same function. That's pretty boring, and it's boring here, I think.
He doesnt win though. He thinks he wins because he's all strength that he doesnt understand. Its a running theme for David. You're stretching beam fight past usefulness.
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It's the protagonist and villain confronting each other with their powers, clashing directly, and the protagonist winning because he has the more powerful powers / the "stronger will" / true love / etc
This reads exactly the same to me as the end of Rise of Skywalker or the climax in Captain Marvel or whenever Ryu hadokens someone else's hadoken
This isn't like the end of Rise of Skywalker because it didn't give me the confusion of one lone guy yelling "WHOO!!!" and applauding after the credits while everyone else was like "what the fuck is going on in that poor man's head?"
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Zavianuniversal peace sounds better than forever warRegistered Userregular
What’s the general chat opinion on how unsexy Marvel films and are, and if they need to more erotic(italicized)?
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Sony had the XMen license for a long time and did not have nearly the sort of discipline that marvel studios had.
the first xmen movie was groundbreaking and the second one i remember as also being pretty good. of course they also put out some really bad movies.
but Logan is among the best the genre has to offer, and I liked a whole lot about XMen First Class
some of the failures - like the unfortunate New Mutants - were at least kind of interesting in what they seemed like they were trying to do
some of the failures - like xmen 3 - were just regular failures.
i guess what i'm saying is that i'd rather have ambitious failures and occasional interesting successes than reliably pretty-good-but-samey genre staples
of course the people spending and collecting the money want exactly the opposite thing!
It's the protagonist and villain confronting each other with their powers, clashing directly, and the protagonist winning because he has the more powerful powers / the "stronger will" / true love / etc
This reads exactly the same to me as the end of Rise of Skywalker or the climax in Captain Marvel or whenever Ryu hadokens someone else's hadoken
EM it's thematically appropriate, Legion won because he had achieved the power of Super Saiyan 2
It's the protagonist and villain confronting each other with their powers, clashing directly, and the protagonist winning because he has the more powerful powers / the "stronger will" / true love / etc
This reads exactly the same to me as the end of Rise of Skywalker or the climax in Captain Marvel or whenever Ryu hadokens someone else's hadoken
This isn't like the end of Rise of Skywalker because it didn't give me the confusion of one lone guy yelling "WHOO!!!" and applauding after the credits while everyone else was like "what the fuck is going on in that poor man's head?"
I would watch a movie or show about Thanos and how he's just kind of a big crazy idiot who's really, really, really strong and confident, and how that 100% plausibly led to a position of intergalactic leadership and power even though his policies are very bad
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This is totally a beam fight
They're not using projectiles, but it's exactly the same trope, and it's super goofy and jarring in a show like this
boy howdy that one took a sharp turn in the first episode
Its not a beam fight though.
Maybe?
I guess it depends on who you are.
It was a big punchup at the end of a comic book movie.
Arbitrary is directly the opposite of what it was.
Yeah that was a level of surprising violence that stayed with me a while
Reasonably. The story ended up having very few sword fights and mostly the trials were arbitrary things the person running the contest chose to rig the outcome, and the swords were more of an entry ticket.
One of the contests was a spelling contest.
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The Anniversary Party, specifically.
Bruce, Clint, and Natasha in a cuddlepile.
Shuri and Tony, their eyes a little too wide, talking a little too fast, having a little too energetic of a discussion about technology
Thor on his seventh bump, wiping his nose and yelling "more!"
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
Its cleverly done on the whole
This reads exactly the same to me as the end of Rise of Skywalker or the climax in Captain Marvel or whenever Ryu hadokens someone else's hadoken
*throws mirror on ground, it smashing into a million pieces*
I'LL HAVE ANOTHER
A beam fight would be them hitting each other and then grunting and yelling for a while and then one triumphs, ie a dumb and stupid trope that is never interesting
I were 12 I would lose my shit
As the X-men ought to be
I hope it never gets made
There were moments of brilliant choreography in the closing fight of endgame.
On the whole, a weaker showing than winter soldier, sure... but what cap did with hammer and shield was just *chef kiss*
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
Never let go of a comics grudge
Captain America had previously been a good soldier who followed orders and worked for the powers that be, and that ended up helping out the baddies, and just generally resulting in stuff that Cap wasn't morally OK with. He's opposed to the accords because he's previously erred too far on the side of following authority.
Iron Man had previously been all like, "Fuck you it's my property and you can't tell me what I do with it." and now he's feeling guilt over the lives lost because of his suit. He doesn't trust himself and feels like he needs to be put under tighter controls.
The actual nitty gritty details of the accords don't matter, which is why the movie mostly just blows right past providing any details. it's about these two characters and their internal motivations colliding with each other. Each feels the need to atone for their previous errors by reversing how they've acted in the past. That brings them into conflict with each other. The story doesn't care about "who's right," the story doesn't care about the merits of the accords overall, it's about the characters emotions and attempts to fix what they see as previous mistakes.
Debating over "who's right" kinda just seems like missing the forest for the trees.
The protagonist just flatly winning because he's stronger is the trope of a beam fight. It's not as drawn out, but the dramatic (and very goofy) slowmo charge as their powers build up around them serves the exact same function. That's pretty boring, and it's boring here, I think.
It was total happenstance that Thanos would end up showing up at the end, he was mostly there because of bad luck, and what he wanted to do and why didn't really make any sense he was just angry that guys from a different timeline did time travel about the plan he otherwise had? And his new plan makes how dumb his original plan is even way more obvious!
Of course that only holds so long as you only ever think about the Avengers viewpoint, and not the viewpoint of the people living in the places they go blow stuff up in. The accords is those people saying "nobody gets to decide to go avenging in our country unless the UN approves" - which is nominally their right to do so, choosing the laws that govern them (and everybody else in their country)
Cap's position is literally "we should decide where and when we go and damn what the people who live there think about it"
The protagonist isn't winning.
It's more actiony than cerebral but that's, I think, kind of the point in that it is a misdirect. David thinks he's winning and is now in control, but he's not.
America is terrified of sexuality more than it craves it
He doesnt win though. He thinks he wins because he's all strength that he doesnt understand. Its a running theme for David. You're stretching beam fight past usefulness.
This isn't like the end of Rise of Skywalker because it didn't give me the confusion of one lone guy yelling "WHOO!!!" and applauding after the credits while everyone else was like "what the fuck is going on in that poor man's head?"
the first xmen movie was groundbreaking and the second one i remember as also being pretty good. of course they also put out some really bad movies.
but Logan is among the best the genre has to offer, and I liked a whole lot about XMen First Class
some of the failures - like the unfortunate New Mutants - were at least kind of interesting in what they seemed like they were trying to do
some of the failures - like xmen 3 - were just regular failures.
i guess what i'm saying is that i'd rather have ambitious failures and occasional interesting successes than reliably pretty-good-but-samey genre staples
of course the people spending and collecting the money want exactly the opposite thing!
EM it's thematically appropriate, Legion won because he had achieved the power of Super Saiyan 2
They’re astonishingly chaste, I think. You can probably count the number of passionate kisses on one hand.
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