Sure, I agree. Again, if the coast split weren't there, even a garage/basement space would be something to get the people together without having to rent, but again, geographically it is impossible, no reason to seriously consider it. Another issue seems to be content, tbh. Other streamers, especially popular ones, crank out multiple hours per day. Nextlander does not keep up with that I don't think. That and the lack of social media engagement beyond their existing fanbase...idk how it is supposed to grow like that.
Nextlander isn't barely scraping by; its doing quite well, but its just not stabalizing yet. They're still like the 4th most successful gaming patron, despite losing thousands of patrons.
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I’m not sure if Vinny and Alex have any side gigs, but Brad does the Tech Pod with Will Smith, so that lets him diversify a bit income wise.
Nextlander probably needs at least 20k a month income to be stable if thats a persons only gig. How do they have their tiers set up? Techpod is bringing in somewhere between 5-7.5k a month I’d guess, which isn’t too bad for a weekly hour long podcast (not counting topic research) and a discord.
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I looked at it and if you put the lowest level $ x #patrons for Nextlander that’s still a loooooot of money.
I don’t know what rate Patreon takes and cost toward business etc. But I don’t think they’re in any proximity of hurting. I do hope they stabilize high though regardless.
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It is sad to think about that in-studio stuff if probably a thing of the past. Thinking back how fun UPF and those shows were.
**Is** Nextlander scraping by? Or are the overhead costs for 3 dudes much cheaper than an entire company?
Also I am intrigued by Jeff saying he wouldn't mind getting some of the GB people who just lost their jobs (so Jess and Jason, I guess) on his show just to chat and hang out. I don't know if Jeff pays them but I wouldn't be surprised if he did, and also it would let them promote themselves, I guess.
As for social media, that well was poisoned long ago for most of them. Seems like Discord is the way they choose to engage with people these days.
Edit: we've seen Giant Bomb get on Instagram and TikTok and become a sassy Twitter account over the past year or so and what has that gotten them? I think social media engagement isn't as big of a deal as we've been led to believe it is, just like Facebook wasn't really that important and websites shouldn't have pivoted to video.
Nextlander doesn't need the line to keep going up forever to justify their existence to some guys in suits. Neither does JGS.
**Is** Nextlander scraping by? Or are the overhead costs for 3 dudes much cheaper than an entire company?
Also I am intrigued by Jeff saying he wouldn't mind getting some of the GB people who just lost their jobs (so Jess and Jason, I guess) on his show just to chat and hang out. I don't know if Jeff pays them but I wouldn't be surprised if he did, and also it would let them promote themselves, I guess.
Nextlander is making at minimum $40,000 a month (at 8,000 subscribers at the minimum $5 tier, not including Patreon's cut - and 8,000 is a conservative estimate, last I saw they were above 10,000, but that was 6 months ago, I have no idea what they're at now). They're doing just fine.
I think some people mistook my comments about Nextlander needing to stabilize their patron numbers as an indication that they're not doing well, which is probably my fault for not being clearer.
They're doing well now. Not as well as six months ago and not as well as when they started, but well none-the-less.
It's just a question of if they can get their numbers to even out so they have a concrete idea of how much money will be available month to month.
It's one thing when you have three equal partners who are all aware of how ride or die the whole enterprise is. It's quite another when you have employees to worry about.
Jess still on track to show more Choo-Choo Charles, not letting recent events derail her. I suspect that she will go full speed ahead conducting streams and most people will be all about being onboard. Train puns.
Nextlander isn't barely scraping by; its doing quite well, but its just not stabalizing yet. They're still like the 4th most successful gaming patron, despite losing thousands of patrons.
That's good then, I misread what was being said before. Still, I think the things I mentioned could be improved. We'll see!
Looking at Graphtreon, what they need to do is simple:
Make a porn game. Wow. Look at all that dough. People love to watch people fuck apparently, who knew!
Best part of making a porn game is you can rake in that sweet Patreon money and never actually finish it, just keeping putting out small updates over like a decade.
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I'm downloading some things now just in case.
The download speed is not fast huh. I made a list beforehand and was concerned about the storage space it would take up but really I should have worried that it's going to be taking an insane amount of time to actually get the material down, it's like 15 minutes per video so far.
ya there's a program someone made that will just go through and download entire shows, gb video grabber. it's much better than the old program i used to use. it's still not fast but i usually run it at 3 concurrent downloads and it'll just keep going until it's done with whatever you told it to get so doesn't require you to babysit it.
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ya there's a program someone made that will just go through and download entire shows, gb video grabber. it's much better than the old program i used to use. it's still not fast but i usually run it at 3 concurrent downloads and it'll just keep going until it's done with whatever you told it to get so doesn't require you to babysit it.
I just had a flashback to the late 90s/early 2000s' useful program called GetRight.
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It is for sure their server that’s feeding a 2MB/s download speed because I can sustain it for quite a few simultaneous downloads. I’ll try to stretch that concurrent downloads until it says no :P
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AFAIK every Giant Bomb video ever made is on archive dot org so there’s no big hurry to get everything.
True, however that relies on the content being publicly accessible for their crawler, which Premium content is not. Someone must've personally gone out of their way to provide a login to nab those (and good on them).
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True, however that relies on the content being publicly accessible for their crawler, which Premium content is not. Someone must've personally gone out of their way to provide a login to nab those (and good on them).
I mean the Venn Diagram overlap between “tech weirdo active archive dot org contributor” and “obsessive Giant Bomb fan” is very large. It’s where I got my local copy of the Nintendownload X-press.
I may spend the next week or so downloading the series I want to save and then consider setting up a batch process to re-encode them to h265 to save some space. This would also give me a good excuse to buy one last 8TB drive to fill out my 4-bay NAS.
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Obviously I could check this myself but I'm on a slow VPN. Does Archive.org work well for video?
Because loading old (lightweight) websites on it for me can often take several minutes. I can't imagine watching videos work if the browsing is that slow. But maybe they have another method for delivering that stuff?
I don't listen to the Bombcast anymore but it sounds like they just did the "we're gonna keep on trucking" thing for the show today.
There's really nothing they can say, really. This is only the 2nd or 3rd time where someone left the site and it wasn't by their own accord: Ryan dying suddenly, and then Jeff being unceremoniously fired. And now Jess and Jason are just gone.
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Everyone with an opinion on Giant Bomb wasn't going to suddenly change their opinion after the recent events, anyway. We heard pretty much the exact same noise after Gerstmann left
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They said they spent the last few days talking about the layoffs already, there's not much else to say besides "shit sucks, we gotta keep moving."
Abby came by for the most recent Voicemail Dumptruck. That seems like the main place they like to bring in guests and old crew and whatnot, which fair enough, it's a fun show.
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Cleaning my super cluttered desk area and found this experiment - I wanted to make my own lino-printed business cards (cuz I didn't have any) for the VGAs
Didn't end up going thanks to budget cuts 😕 didn't stay employed either lol oh well
At a family function, my cousin's boyfriend pointed out the GB hoodie I was wearing, and he told me about how he "is, or well, I guess I mean was" a big fan of the site. Lamented the state of the site, we talked about how Nextlander and JGS is where it's at now, etc.
Mr Gerstmann has lauded the Ghost energy drinks in a recent video and trying the Tropical Manjo (Ranked #19) now I can see why! Got the Orange Cream (Ranked #2!) too for later but he hasn't lead me astray with his rankings yet. The Rockstar Recovery Fruit Punch was indeed very tasty so I'm thankful for his service and expertise in energy drink matters.
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I enjoy Jeff's energy drink content, but I find them of limited utility because he drinks sugar free / diet iterations exclusively, and if I'm gonna go I'm gonna go all the way. It's good that Jeff is smarter than me and is taking the healthier option though.
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tbh I haven't found much use for them personally mostly because I'm just a luddite who hasn't moved past the rinky-dink Thai Red Bull cans
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Nextlander probably needs at least 20k a month income to be stable if thats a persons only gig. How do they have their tiers set up? Techpod is bringing in somewhere between 5-7.5k a month I’d guess, which isn’t too bad for a weekly hour long podcast (not counting topic research) and a discord.
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I don’t know what rate Patreon takes and cost toward business etc. But I don’t think they’re in any proximity of hurting. I do hope they stabilize high though regardless.
Also I am intrigued by Jeff saying he wouldn't mind getting some of the GB people who just lost their jobs (so Jess and Jason, I guess) on his show just to chat and hang out. I don't know if Jeff pays them but I wouldn't be surprised if he did, and also it would let them promote themselves, I guess.
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Edit: we've seen Giant Bomb get on Instagram and TikTok and become a sassy Twitter account over the past year or so and what has that gotten them? I think social media engagement isn't as big of a deal as we've been led to believe it is, just like Facebook wasn't really that important and websites shouldn't have pivoted to video.
Nextlander doesn't need the line to keep going up forever to justify their existence to some guys in suits. Neither does JGS.
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Nextlander is making at minimum $40,000 a month (at 8,000 subscribers at the minimum $5 tier, not including Patreon's cut - and 8,000 is a conservative estimate, last I saw they were above 10,000, but that was 6 months ago, I have no idea what they're at now). They're doing just fine.
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They're doing well now. Not as well as six months ago and not as well as when they started, but well none-the-less.
It's just a question of if they can get their numbers to even out so they have a concrete idea of how much money will be available month to month.
It's one thing when you have three equal partners who are all aware of how ride or die the whole enterprise is. It's quite another when you have employees to worry about.
Jess still on track to show more Choo-Choo Charles, not letting recent events derail her. I suspect that she will go full speed ahead conducting streams and most people will be all about being onboard. Train puns.
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Make a porn game. Wow. Look at all that dough. People love to watch people fuck apparently, who knew!
Finally, the Brad Doujinshi we all were waiting for
Best part of making a porn game is you can rake in that sweet Patreon money and never actually finish it, just keeping putting out small updates over like a decade.
The download speed is not fast huh. I made a list beforehand and was concerned about the storage space it would take up but really I should have worried that it's going to be taking an insane amount of time to actually get the material down, it's like 15 minutes per video so far.
I just had a flashback to the late 90s/early 2000s' useful program called GetRight.
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Check this perhaps, there's more people trying to DL stuff and they set up a discord for it.
I searched for multiple Premium shows and they all seem to be up there. Archive dot org generally doesn't care about copyright.
I mean the Venn Diagram overlap between “tech weirdo active archive dot org contributor” and “obsessive Giant Bomb fan” is very large. It’s where I got my local copy of the Nintendownload X-press.
Because loading old (lightweight) websites on it for me can often take several minutes. I can't imagine watching videos work if the browsing is that slow. But maybe they have another method for delivering that stuff?
There's really nothing they can say, really. This is only the 2nd or 3rd time where someone left the site and it wasn't by their own accord: Ryan dying suddenly, and then Jeff being unceremoniously fired. And now Jess and Jason are just gone.
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It cuts off the last bit in the thumbnail I see but its titled "Games Journalism Support Group" in full.