Man, I was looking forward to the Mr. Terrific series until you all made me doubt that. I'd never heard of Wallace, but now it sounds like it'll be awful I might pick up the first issue anyways, because he was one of my favorites from JSA, always wanted to see more of him.
Also looking at Wonder Woman (although not sure how Azzarello will write her), JLI, and maybe Firestorm.
At the very least he signed a DC non disclosure agreement, meaning he's writing something for the company.
See now, that's awesome. That guy can write great neo-noir, and he killed it on The Immortal Iron Fist.
I kind of want to make a big wishlist of books I'd like to see DC make, and the creative teams I'd like to see on them. #1 would be a Martian Manhunter book, written by John Layman.
Also, I'd somehow forgotten that Azzarello and Chiang had done Doctor 13: Architecture and Morality together, which has me more excited for Wonder Woman.
Paul Cornell's tweets seem to suggest a full reboot:
Best things about the DC relaunch 1: 'Where do I start with DC?' 'Anywhere.'
Best things about the DC relaunch 2: comic conversations will now be about story, not continuity. 'Good twist? Great plot?' That's back.
Best things about the DC relaunch 3: it gives the general public a chance and a reason to buy comics, at the same time.
The only way Point 2 works is if the old continuity doesn't matter anymore. If they do the whole "well this might be in, and that might be out, and we don't know about this" shit like from Crisis, then the conversation will only be about continuity.
If they lost the silly shoulder points it would be fine
Especially if they are keeping the whole "we are going to explode and kill everyone soon" and that is the dangerous Pure Firestorm that Ronnie and Jason use in tandem.
On Wednesday, August 31st, DC Comics will make publishing history again with their first-ever comic book combo pack. Each issue of JUSTICE LEAGUE, by New York Times bestselling writer and DC Entertainment Chief Creative Officer Geoff Johns and bestselling artist and DC Comics Co-Publisher Jim Lee, will be available in a convenient combo pack including a print edition and digital version of the comic book.
Those who want a physical copy of JUSTICE LEAGUE to read and collect, as well as the ability to download it onto their favorite device for easy transport, get ready. Each print edition of the comic book and an individual code for digital download will be wrapped in a poly bag and available for $4.99. Separately, the standard version will retail for $3.99 and the digital version will retail for $3.99.
“As we continue to expand our readership and make our titles more accessible to readers everywhere, we’re excited to provide our comic shop retail partners and their consumers with multiple formats of JUSTICE LEAGUE in one convenient place,” said John Rood, EVP Sales, Marketing and Business Development.
Not only will Johns and Lee be collaborating for the first time, but their contemporary take on the origin of the comic book industry’s premier superhero team will be available in DC Comics’ historic first comic book combo pack.
Both digital and print editions of DC’s comics will have parity pricing for the first four weeks of release; thereafter, the digital titles drop in price down to our standard 1.99 digital price point. Oversized issues, including JUSTICE LEAGUE #1, will start at $3.99 and drop to $2.99 after four weeks.
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yeah, I like the idea of the two Firestorms and the combo
Some of these solicits just reek of throwing something, anything, against the wall and hoping it sticks. I don't understand the need to just toss something like Mr. Terrific out there when the best thing it has going is a JG Jones cover.
By the way, I like almost all of these covers, so at least the line will look good on the racks.
I also really wish they would stop making artists become writers. It makes it seem like their philosophy is that anyone can write, it's easy! It is almost as if that in order to deal with their poverty of mid level talent, they turn an artist into a writer since that has some small buzz and mystery to it.
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well, some writers can be good artists, and vice versa
and then you have people who can write and draw their comics at the same time, which is no mean feat
On Wednesday, August 31st, DC Comics will make publishing history again with their first-ever comic book combo pack. Each issue of JUSTICE LEAGUE, by New York Times bestselling writer and DC Entertainment Chief Creative Officer Geoff Johns and bestselling artist and DC Comics Co-Publisher Jim Lee, will be available in a convenient combo pack including a print edition and digital version of the comic book.
Those who want a physical copy of JUSTICE LEAGUE to read and collect, as well as the ability to download it onto their favorite device for easy transport, get ready. Each print edition of the comic book and an individual code for digital download will be wrapped in a poly bag and available for $4.99. Separately, the standard version will retail for $3.99 and the digital version will retail for $3.99.
“As we continue to expand our readership and make our titles more accessible to readers everywhere, we’re excited to provide our comic shop retail partners and their consumers with multiple formats of JUSTICE LEAGUE in one convenient place,” said John Rood, EVP Sales, Marketing and Business Development.
Not only will Johns and Lee be collaborating for the first time, but their contemporary take on the origin of the comic book industry’s premier superhero team will be available in DC Comics’ historic first comic book combo pack.
Both digital and print editions of DC’s comics will have parity pricing for the first four weeks of release; thereafter, the digital titles drop in price down to our standard 1.99 digital price point. Oversized issues, including JUSTICE LEAGUE #1, will start at $3.99 and drop to $2.99 after four weeks.
That poly bag sounds like a really dumb idea. Really dumb.
well, some writers can be good artists, and vice versa
and then you have people who can write and draw their comics at the same time, which is no mean feat
we'll see how it goes
But that's exactly it. It's like instead of developing or signing people who have a proven track record and will have a buzz around their book, they choose a known name with a big question mark because "Francis Manapul? I wonder if he can write," is better (neutral) hype than "JT Krul? Okay, I'm skipping that."
It's just such an unfortunate way to deal with their small talent pool.
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Cornell's tweets keep making me wonder just how many new readers is DC really expecting with this threeboot. Everyone keeps talking like the floodgates are going to open because the dam of continuity has been crushed, killing the Transformer inside of it.
And with the whole artist becoming writers, it doesn't bother me when the artist works his way up the ladder to get a top spot. Jurgens started as an artist, worked on a c-list character in Booster to develop his skills, and ultimately got bumped up to Superman and DC architect of the 90's. That's a completely fair way to go about it. The same thing with Phil Hester using the indy scene to get the WW gig. But just throwing Dave Finch and Tony Daniel a big name Bat book, what the hell.
I'm pretty unhappy with all of this. I would have chanced a James Robinson Hawkman picking up from Brightest Day, but an enritely rebooted one by Tony Daniel and Philip Tan sounds utterly terrible. Why would they build the profile of these characters and then smash them with horrible creative teams and a complete reboot?
Mr. Terrific and Captain Atom also could be good books under writers who have used them before, but Eric Wallace and JT Krul? Nope.
I hope Manipal on the Flash is good, because his art is wonderful, but I've got a bad hunch. I'll wait until this hits trade to even give it a chance.
Here's what I'm interested in so far:
JLA
Aquaman
Firestorm (If Gail wasn't involved, I would not even bother)
JLI
If my wallet can handle it, Wonder Woman.
Let's hope the other 41 titles aren't awful. DC has really dropped the ball here. I don't mind a reboot, but their biggest problem these last few years have been horrible creative team choices. It seems like they're assigning writers out of a hat now; at this rate we'll have another full reboot in 12 months, and it will end up being Heroes Return.
Needless to say, most of my excitement for this has dissapated.
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Munch. I'm sorry but you will be getting the bill from my ophthalmologist for that spoiler.
Please don't ever post that image again.
It will stay with you forever.
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Also looking at Wonder Woman (although not sure how Azzarello will write her), JLI, and maybe Firestorm.
I think it's because he doesn't make her look so waifish, with her breasts almost popping out of her top.
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At the very least he signed a DC non disclosure agreement, meaning he's writing something for the company.
He is a pretty good writer, his Iron Fist was fantastic.
thinking about that I hope there is a Dr. Fate series somewhere in this relaunch
I kind of want to make a big wishlist of books I'd like to see DC make, and the creative teams I'd like to see on them. #1 would be a Martian Manhunter book, written by John Layman.
Also, I'd somehow forgotten that Azzarello and Chiang had done Doctor 13: Architecture and Morality together, which has me more excited for Wonder Woman.
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Hell, I'm buying it and I am incredibly indifferent to Wonder Woman.
It's like someone's grabbed me by the shoulders and shouted into my face, "'90s!"
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Best things about the DC relaunch 1: 'Where do I start with DC?' 'Anywhere.'
Best things about the DC relaunch 2: comic conversations will now be about story, not continuity. 'Good twist? Great plot?' That's back.
Best things about the DC relaunch 3: it gives the general public a chance and a reason to buy comics, at the same time.
The only way Point 2 works is if the old continuity doesn't matter anymore. If they do the whole "well this might be in, and that might be out, and we don't know about this" shit like from Crisis, then the conversation will only be about continuity.
Starting from a blank slate would help that.
If they lost the silly shoulder points it would be fine
Especially if they are keeping the whole "we are going to explode and kill everyone soon" and that is the dangerous Pure Firestorm that Ronnie and Jason use in tandem.
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Age of Apocalypse- holocaust much?
I actually think that looks pretty cool
please don't hurt me
We can go make a clubhouse
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no haters allowed
primary colours mandatory
By the way, I like almost all of these covers, so at least the line will look good on the racks.
I also really wish they would stop making artists become writers. It makes it seem like their philosophy is that anyone can write, it's easy! It is almost as if that in order to deal with their poverty of mid level talent, they turn an artist into a writer since that has some small buzz and mystery to it.
and then you have people who can write and draw their comics at the same time, which is no mean feat
we'll see how it goes
That poly bag sounds like a really dumb idea. Really dumb.
What the fuck happened. Where is James Robinson Hawkman? Why is Manipal writing the flash?
What the fucking fuck?
But that's exactly it. It's like instead of developing or signing people who have a proven track record and will have a buzz around their book, they choose a known name with a big question mark because "Francis Manapul? I wonder if he can write," is better (neutral) hype than "JT Krul? Okay, I'm skipping that."
It's just such an unfortunate way to deal with their small talent pool.
And with the whole artist becoming writers, it doesn't bother me when the artist works his way up the ladder to get a top spot. Jurgens started as an artist, worked on a c-list character in Booster to develop his skills, and ultimately got bumped up to Superman and DC architect of the 90's. That's a completely fair way to go about it. The same thing with Phil Hester using the indy scene to get the WW gig. But just throwing Dave Finch and Tony Daniel a big name Bat book, what the hell.
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To be fair, Tony Daniel has written before on his own creator-owned work with The Tenth and F5.
But yes, it does seem like "I've draw his stuff, I think I get how it works. Words come out of their mouths right?"
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His run on Iron Fist was some of the best stuff I've read in years. I'd love to see what he could do with Batman.
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
Mr. Terrific and Captain Atom also could be good books under writers who have used them before, but Eric Wallace and JT Krul? Nope.
I hope Manipal on the Flash is good, because his art is wonderful, but I've got a bad hunch. I'll wait until this hits trade to even give it a chance.
Here's what I'm interested in so far:
JLA
Aquaman
Firestorm (If Gail wasn't involved, I would not even bother)
JLI
If my wallet can handle it, Wonder Woman.
Let's hope the other 41 titles aren't awful. DC has really dropped the ball here. I don't mind a reboot, but their biggest problem these last few years have been horrible creative team choices. It seems like they're assigning writers out of a hat now; at this rate we'll have another full reboot in 12 months, and it will end up being Heroes Return.
Needless to say, most of my excitement for this has dissapated.