Forza 2

BaronVonSnakPak

Forza Motorsport 2
release date: May 29th U.S.
developer: Turn 10 studios
publisher: Microsoft

what is it?: What began as microsofts answer to gran turismo (forza 1) has become a beast of its own. a "real life driving simulator" with an INSANE amount of customization.

how many cars?: over 300 heres the official car list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forza_2_Car_List

how many tracks?: 13, with a total of 65 different variations.
real world tracks: laguna seca, mugello, nurburgring, road atlanta, sebring, silverstone, suzuka, tsukuba circuit, and nissan speedway.
fictional tracks: maple valley, new york circuit, sunset peninsula, test track

hows the game engine?: sounds too good to be true. it runs at 60 fps, with 360 fps on the physics. this supposedly creates the most realistic driving experience yet in a videogame.

notables?: well, if youve got 4 xboxes, and 4 tvs, you can link them all together and create a full 360 degree driving view. also, the collectors edition of the game will come with 3 extra cars, and a 157 page booklet. the game will also fully utilize the 360 steering wheel, force feedback, rumble, etc. basically the only reason right now to buy a $150 peripheral.

pretties?: yes. below are screenshots.

edit: changed thread title, since its no longer april.

http://xboxyde.com/news_4286_en.html
a whole slew of screenshots from the latest preview build.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/785/785649p1.html
ign australia's newest hands-on preview.

bruin

So bought. I just hope I'm not still playing Pokemon for 7 hours per day when it comes out though.

Sci-Fi Wasabi

I am so excited for this game. I haven't played a Forza before but this looks so shit hot. They have to get this fucking demo out like now.

Dulath

The depth of field blurring is cool, but why are we still seeing jaggies? You'd think that anti-aliasing would have been a built-in hardware feature by now.

Anyways, all my dicks or cumming for PGR4 and this game. Who needs GT5?

bruin

Dulath wrote: »

The depth of field blurring is cool, but why are we still seeing jaggies? You'd think that anti-aliasing would have been a built-in hardware feature by now.

Anyways, all my dicks or cumming for PGR4 and this game. Who needs GT5?

In motion the jaggies aren't nearly as bad from what I've seen.

Also, 60FPS and 360 physics updates/second for the win.

FightTest

I hope they don't put that stupid race line in it like in the first Forza. People can complain all they want about the license system in GT, but I had more replay fun in the end with GT because it actually made me learn to drive rather than just staring at a green->red line. Plus not being able to turn it off in multiplayer just kind of ruined it. (Don't know if they later patched that, I got bored with my xbox and cancelled my Live sub a long time ago.)


Good game, stupid easy mode driving line epic fail.

Lezta

Jaggies

Cript

FightTest wrote: »

I hope they don't put that stupid race line in it like in the first Forza. People can complain all they want about the license system in GT, but I had more replay fun in the end with GT because it actually made me learn to drive rather than just staring at a green->red line. Plus not being able to turn it off in multiplayer just kind of ruined it. (Don't know if they later patched that, I got bored with my xbox and cancelled my Live sub a long time ago.)


Good game, stupid easy mode driving line epic fail.

Turn it off?

OtakuD00D

FightTest wrote: »

I hope they don't put that stupid race line in it like in the first Forza. People can complain all they want about the license system in GT, but I had more replay fun in the end with GT because it actually made me learn to drive rather than just staring at a green->red line. Plus not being able to turn it off in multiplayer just kind of ruined it. (Don't know if they later patched that, I got bored with my xbox and cancelled my Live sub a long time ago.)


Good game, stupid easy mode driving line epic fail.

Really? Weird. I never saw the line online .

Recoil42

found this video today that made me..... well.... you know..



http://www.media.allerinternett.no/km_fil/0/2343090.wmv



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FightTest wrote: »

I hope they don't put that stupid race line in it like in the first Forza. People can complain all they want about the license system in GT, but I had more replay fun in the end with GT because it actually made me learn to drive rather than just staring at a green->red line. Plus not being able to turn it off in multiplayer just kind of ruined it. (Don't know if they later patched that, I got bored with my xbox and cancelled my Live sub a long time ago.)


Good game, stupid easy mode driving line epic fail.

Uhh.... you COULD turn it off. So... you're nuts.

Also, they've added a new version of it to Forza2. It'll only show red arrows in corners, and only then when you're really going too fast.. it's apparently a lot less intrusive. So... :^:

fragglefart

I'm torn, it looks great, and the physics and customisation look shit hot, but then, I want PGR4, maybe Colin McRae DiRT, maybe SEGA Rally... I can't own that many racing games, there is no point.

knigge

I haven't been this excited about a racing game since GT3. Ohhh, I can't wait to mess around with the painting.

PS. mor pix plz

Recoil42

fragglefart wrote: »

I'm torn, it looks great, and the physics and customisation look shit hot, but then, I want PGR4, maybe Colin McRae DiRT, maybe SEGA Rally... I can't own that many racing games, there is no point.

Forza2 > McRae DiRT > SEGA Rally.


For the love of god, you CANNOT put McRae or Sega Rally in front of Forza2. That's just... blasphemy.

fragglefart

Recoil42 wrote: »

fragglefart wrote: »

I'm torn, it looks great, and the physics and customisation look shit hot, but then, I want PGR4, maybe Colin McRae DiRT, maybe SEGA Rally... I can't own that many racing games, there is no point.

Forza2 > McRae DiRT > SEGA Rally.


For the love of god, you CANNOT put McRae or Sega Rally in front of Forza2. That's just... blasphemy.

Yessir!!

Just have to wait for reviews I guess, or maybe more screens of the others. Don't get me wrong, Forza 2 looks damned awesome, and I'm sure there will be lots of online shenanigans. I'm just holding out on more PGR4 info, I guess.

Accualt

The LINE is what made my wife and I like Forza! We both enjoy racing games every now and then but are absolutely terrible at them. Forza helped teach us how to race instead of just giving me a car to crash into a wall. Plus, you know, turning it off. I did like their difficulty setting, you could tweak all kinds of things but the easier you made it on yourself the less rewards you would get. :^:

Dulath

I'm really quite surprised by DiRT. I played Colin McRae Rally 3 on the PC several years ago, graphics were great, physics fluid and dynamic... I may end up owning three racing games this summer

mausmalone

Accualt wrote: »

The LINE is what made my wife and I like Forza! We both enjoy racing games every now and then but are absolutely terrible at them. Forza helped teach us how to race instead of just giving me a car to crash into a wall. Plus, you know, turning it off. I did like their difficulty setting, you could tweak all kinds of things but the easier you made it on yourself the less rewards you would get. :^:

If you really want to learn how to drive well, get yourself a copy of Gran Turismo 1 with both manuals. The 2nd manual is a small guidebook on how to corner effectively and find the racing line. It's extremely in-depth and worth tracking down.

Failing that, pick up a copy of GT3 for $4 used. While the driving tips section of the manual is much smaller (1/2 a manual instead of a full separate manual), it's top-notch stuff written by the instructors from the Skip Barber School of Racing.

FightTest

The problem with just "turning it off" was that I played pretty much exclusively online. And like I said, they may have patched it so hosts could turn it off, but when I was playing it (for a little while after release) you couldn't. So you could either leave it on, or be at a giant handicap trying to play for real while everyone else stared at a line on the road.

Plus when I stopped playing the game had degenerated into everyone using Enzos all the time.

If they patched it so you could turn the line off, great. But when I was playing you couldn't and it just made multiplayer get boring quickly.

knigge

Alright, I preordered it off Amazon, so I can get that car (I fell for it, I know, but I saved a few bucks). Has anyone else done this?

Also, has anyone heard of where to buy the limited edition? It's supposed to come with what, 2 or 3 cars? I don't know man. 10 bucks for a couple cars? Seems kinda outrageous to me.

BaronVonSnakPak

3 cars and a 157 page booklet.

knigge

Meh, I say.

bruin

BaronVonSnakPak wrote: »

3 cars and a 157 page booklet.

What is this booklet you speak of?

BaronVonSnakPak

other than the fact that its a booklet, and it has 157 pages, i have no idea.

i can speculate that itll either talk about:
a- driving techniques
b- the making of the game
c- tuning the cars for the best performance
d- combination of any of the prior 3 mentioned

freshmasterfresh

Shit. Hearing about these collector's edition cars makes me pissed off. At least I got a $49.99 pre-order through amazon with free shipping. I'll probably just do what I did with crackdown and buy it from bestbuy upon release and then return the one I get from amazon. Yeah, it's kinda shady, but they won't mind.

How come in the video linked above the cars still make asphalt skidding sounds when sliding through dirt?

freshmasterfresh

Man I hope that's a really early build or something. The damage displayed in the aforementioned video was bullshit. I want sweet wrecks but who am I kidding I'm going to play the shit out of this game.

Smilingoat

this is by far the game im most excited over this year. more than halo, more than bioshock, more than spore. i NEED this game.

although i still play forza 1 almost daily, however im not very good at it, its just fun to pick up and play. (i have the lines on most the time, only because im not that serious about it, learning the tracks is the hardest part, if you do that and you know what corners are coming up you really dont need the lines. until then though you're just driving blind.)

coffin joe

Just driving along, having some fun.

knigge

I don't get it.

Dusda

This will be my next 360 purchase. Then I'll finally be able to show my roommates what I mean when I call their Need For Speed infatuation shite.

davidbarry

I've never owned a racing wheel before, but this game looks like it might push me over the edge and force me to by one. Does the wheel work for PC as well?

mausmalone

Dusda wrote: »

This will be my next 360 purchase. Then I'll finally be able to show my roommates what I mean when I call their Need For Speed infatuation shite.

This was going to be possibly my first 360 purchase ... but PGR3 took that spot today thanks to the compusa closeouts. It was a whopping $10 or so.

Funny thing is that I don't have a 360. It's going to be a pseudo gift for my roommate, but he doesn't play racing games at all.

BaronVonSnakPak

coffin, is that nurburgring?

mausmalone

BaronVonSnakPak wrote: »

coffin, is that nurburgring?

That certainly is. (and coffin appears MIA)

OtakuD00D

Took a look at the car list.

WOO AE86

BaronVonSnakPak

davidbarry wrote: »

I've never owned a racing wheel before, but this game looks like it might push me over the edge and force me to by one. Does the wheel work for PC as well?

im not sure about the pc, but ive got the wheel and its a solid peripheral.

i downloaded a couple demos to see if it works with other games aswell and so far it works with:

pgr3 (takes some time to get used to)
nfs: most wanted (this and carbon are both REALLY hard to play with the wheel, but its possible)
nfs: carbon
burnout (challenging, but better than the nfs')

honestly, though, i bought the wheel for forza, dirt, and sega rally. not only because all 3 look like 31 flavors of awesome, but also because the wheel came out before them and hopefully will be utilized the best.

davidbarry

BaronVonSnakPak wrote: »

davidbarry wrote: »

I've never owned a racing wheel before, but this game looks like it might push me over the edge and force me to by one. Does the wheel work for PC as well?

im not sure about the pc, but ive got the wheel and its a solid peripheral.

If I can use the wheel for both Forza 2 and Live For Speed on PC, I'll be a very happy man. Perhaps it will require that USB adapter for the Wireless 360 controllers?

mausmalone

BaronVonSnakPak wrote: »

edit: changed thread title, since its no longer april.

Damn you! For a second I thought you changed the title because the demo had come out.

BaronVonSnakPak

mausmalone wrote: »

BaronVonSnakPak wrote: »

edit: changed thread title, since its no longer april.

Damn you! For a second I thought you changed the title because the demo had come out.

sorry, once the demo comes out i'll change the title again.

i dont even care that its not the full game, i just want to play it that bad, and im really getting tired of pgr3. i dont know whos bright idea it was to make a racing game chalk full of shitty little mini game-esque events instead of, you know, actual races....

Polago

Baron, I had the privilage of trying Forza 2 about 2 months ago on the super sexy 4 screen setup at turn 10 (wheel, pedals, seat, surround sound, all that jazz).

All the stuff about the absolutely insane physics system, the 60fps constant, the functionality with the wheel and pedals, perfect scale recreation of the real world tracks and damage models that leave debris on the track for the entire race, ALL of it was dead on accurate, even in the older build 2 months ago (and that build was 1 month old at the time). I can't claim to be a fan of sim style titles like Gran Turismo since the genre has NEVER appealed to me terribly much, plunging the console back towards mario kart, fzero, wipeout, and other bizarre pure fun racing games. Forza 2 however COMPLETELY got me hooked. Everything in that game works so incredibly well together that the fun, speed, and accurate representation of the cars and race just flow through to you.

I'm not worried at ALL about turn 10's efforts, and expect this to be a fantastic title all around. The only thing i'm unsure about is controller play since that's pretty much completely less immersive than the wheel and pedals, but that just remains to be seen.

The car customization and realtime stats like tire heat and wear, shock load bearing percentages, and all the other really high tech figures during races is awesome. Like have a personal trainer/machinery or something for your racing style and car.

tl;dr: Forza 2 is rad.

darleysam

PolaGo wrote: »

Baron, I had the privilage of trying Forza 2 about 2 months ago on the super sexy 4 screen setup at turn 10 (wheel, pedals, seat, surround sound, all that jazz).

All the stuff about the absolutely insane physics system, the 60fps constant, the functionality with the wheel and pedals, perfect scale recreation of the real world tracks and damage models that leave debris on the track for the entire race, ALL of it was dead on accurate, even in the older build 2 months ago (and that build was 1 month old at the time). I can't claim to be a fan of sim style titles like Gran Turismo since the genre has NEVER appealed to me terribly much, plunging the console back towards mario kart, fzero, wipeout, and other bizarre pure fun racing games. Forza 2 however COMPLETELY got me hooked. Everything in that game works so incredibly well together that the fun, speed, and accurate representation of the cars and race just flow through to you.

I'm not worried at ALL about turn 10's efforts, and expect this to be a fantastic title all around. The only thing i'm unsure about is controller play since that's pretty much completely less immersive than the wheel and pedals, but that just remains to be seen.

The car customization and realtime stats like tire heat and wear, shock load bearing percentages, and all the other really high tech figures during races is awesome. Like have a personal trainer/machinery or something for your racing style and car.

tl;dr: Forza 2 is rad.

i was hoping i could delay purchasing this until its price came down, but dammit sir you are not helping.

Dashui

I've never played Forza 1, nor have I payed attention to Forza 2, but does this game have an in-car view? It doesn't make or break the purchase for me, but God damn do I love that view in Project Gotham Racing 3.

Edit: And dammit, PolaGo. You're going to make me buy a wheel controller now.