Anti-vaxxers are not aware of the harm they are causing
You seriously don't think an anti vaxxer doesn't have the cognitive ability to make the connection that "If my child doesn't get the measles vaccination, he will get the measles"?
If my child doesn't get the measles vaccination, he might get the measles
If my child gets the measles vaccination, he is having poison injected into him
They opt for the possible harm over the definite. It makes a certain sense, from their point of view.
You left out probably the most important part:
If my child doesn't get the measles vaccination, he might pass along that infection to any children he comes in contact with (even passively, measles is extraordinarly contagious) who are too young to have been vaccinated yet. Or elerly people, chemo patients, those with AIDS or anyone else with a compromized immune system.
That's important but it's not most important. Primary motivation of Anti-vaxxers is protecting themselves and their children. They attempt to protect others as well, but this is secondary. A parent's priorities are the safety of their children above all else. Do you have children? Would you put the possibility of someone else being exposed to harm over your own child absolutely being exposed to harm?
Again, I'm not trying to justify what they're doing. What they're doing is wrong. They are wrong. They are harmful. Not evil, though.
Since you ask, and it is a pathetic and feeble rhetorical dodge to try and warp the conversation into one where only parents have the "right" to speak out on this, I am indeed a parent. My son is 9 years old and, of course, fully vaccinated.
I would add to this little anecdote that my mother, though born after the invention of the vaccine, had polio as a child due to being from a poor family without access to proper medical care. She never grew beyond 4' 11" tall in a family where someone half a foot taller would be considered short. She also has a malformed right leg and has required a leg brace and cane to even walk her entire life (it's a damn lucky thing she wasn't in a wheelchair). She still has some chronic health problems caused by contracting polio during her adolescenent development.
Being a parent, and having gone through the calculus of harm as you suggested, has only made my conviction that anti-vaxxers are evil people even stronger.
Mars bars trigger airport security. That's what I learned today.
WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH THIS CHOCOLATE, SIR?
DON'T THEY HAVE CHOCOLATE IN GERMANY??
*narrows eyes*
WHAT'S YOUR ANGLE.
Haha, no! I brought them from Germany with me, for eventual bloodsugar fumbles, you see. Had no trouble at all bringing them in, but on the way out they triggered some kind of alert. The swiped all of the stuff in my hand baggage, till the security lady exclaimed "it was the Mars!", while nearly falling down laughing. Left me baffled.
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edited March 2011
I'd like to go back in time, meet the asshole that invented the necktie, and punch him/her in the taint...
you know... since we're talkin' bout taint punching
"Why did the chicken cross the road? To get to the other side." is a joke about subverting expectations. The expected answer is to provide some motivation or goal for the chicken that the chicken would have upon reaching the other side of the road. One is expecting to be given in the punchline a revelation of the chicken's ultimate intentions. One instead is given the trivially true outcome of the chicken's action.
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My cats have never really been that annoying. In fact they've mostly hung out on their own and if they needed something they'd come and the worst they'd do is rub their face into me and purr.
Oh sure if they were hungry enough then one would start jumping on me and get my attention by blocking my view but fuck when I was a kid I did that to my mother and I bet you did too.
I've never even met your mother.
oh his mother was incredibly easy to shake down for candy
didn't even have to throw a tantrum or turn on the charm
you just had to look at that bag of gummi bears and pow you were rolling in gummi goodness
"Why did the chicken cross the road? To get to the other side." is a joke about subverting expectations. The expected answer is to provide some motivation or goal for the chicken that the chicken would have upon reaching the other side of the road. One is expecting to be given in the punchline a revelation of the chicken's ultimate intentions. One instead is given the trivially true outcome of the chicken's action.
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Yeah well that's like your opinion man....
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If Charlie Sheen can look like the old drunk pervert from The Souf, wave machetes around, and routinely beat women, and still go to bed between two porn stars.
I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
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Whenever people discuss terrible jokes I always feel obligated to share the best joke ever.
There were two muffins sitting in an oven. The first muffin says "boy, it sure is hot in here!" and the second muffin turns and says "HOLY SHIT! A TALKING MUFFIN!"
If Charlie Sheen can look like the old drunk pervert from The Souf, wave machetes around, and routinely beat women, and still go to bed between two porn stars.
I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
Isn't it kind of a tautology that anyone with a camera and a couple grand can go to bed between two porn stars?
If Charlie Sheen can look like the old drunk pervert from The Souf, wave machetes around, and routinely beat women, and still go to bed between two porn stars.
I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
Replace 'Charlie Sheen' with 'random multi-millionaire celebrity'. It's good to be the king. Or the republican equivalent.
Whenever people discuss terrible jokes I always feel obligated to share the best joke ever.
There were two muffins sitting in an oven. The first muffin says "boy, it sure is hot in here!" and the second muffin turns and says "HOLY SHIT! A TALKING MUFFIN!"
My wife told me that on like our third or fourth date and it was one of the principal reasons I fell in love with her.
That and her boobs
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Whenever people discuss terrible jokes I always feel obligated to share the best joke ever.
There were two muffins sitting in an oven. The first muffin says "boy, it sure is hot in here!" and the second muffin turns and says "HOLY SHIT! A TALKING MUFFIN!"
Then the first muffin says "I'm not a muffin I'm a Jew and so are you!"
And that's the ending to "Life is Beautiful".
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this is obviously terrible but one thing in the article confused me
i thought legal and medical confidentiality bonds were severable in cases where a life is/was in danger. so if the law unfortunately says the fetus is a life, wouldn't the nurse's admission then be legally allowable
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edited March 2011
I wish I had more excuses to wear a tie and not look like a ponce
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Ties are pretty great. A friend of mine used to run a company that made ties, all handmade, all from her own designs. I still have about seven of hers in the wardrobe.
Whenever people discuss terrible jokes I always feel obligated to share the best joke ever.
There were two muffins sitting in an oven. The first muffin says "boy, it sure is hot in here!" and the second muffin turns and says "HOLY SHIT! A TALKING MUFFIN!"
Then the first muffin says "I'm not a muffin I'm a Jew and so are you!"
And that's the ending to "Life is Beautiful".
booooooooooooo
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Whenever people discuss terrible jokes I always feel obligated to share the best joke ever.
There were two muffins sitting in an oven. The first muffin says "boy, it sure is hot in here!" and the second muffin turns and says "HOLY SHIT! A TALKING MUFFIN!"
my brother has one of these that takes like twenty minutes to tell and is about horse brothers and ends with basically the same punchline
i tried it out on frankie and after like one minute she was no longer listening and started doing something else
Whenever people discuss terrible jokes I always feel obligated to share the best joke ever.
There were two muffins sitting in an oven. The first muffin says "boy, it sure is hot in here!" and the second muffin turns and says "HOLY SHIT! A TALKING MUFFIN!"
Then the first muffin says "I'm not a muffin I'm a Jew and so are you!"
And that's the ending to "Life is Beautiful".
herrs branstein und muffberg
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Whenever people discuss terrible jokes I always feel obligated to share the best joke ever.
There were two muffins sitting in an oven. The first muffin says "boy, it sure is hot in here!" and the second muffin turns and says "HOLY SHIT! A TALKING MUFFIN!"
my brother has one of these that takes like twenty minutes to tell and is about horse brothers and ends with basically the same punchline
i tried it out on frankie and after like one minute she was no longer listening and started doing something else
so the joke was on me
shaggy dog stories are one of those gags that let's people really ham it up ad-libbing. It's like The Aristocrats only people hate you afterward.
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Whenever people discuss terrible jokes I always feel obligated to share the best joke ever.
There were two muffins sitting in an oven. The first muffin says "boy, it sure is hot in here!" and the second muffin turns and says "HOLY SHIT! A TALKING MUFFIN!"
I was told that by a girlfriend once.
I should have known she was crazy. I dumped her, her and her mom begged me to reconsider, I did, and two weeks later she cheated on me because "it just wasn't working out".
Ooooookaaaaay.
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Whenever people discuss terrible jokes I always feel obligated to share the best joke ever.
There were two muffins sitting in an oven. The first muffin says "boy, it sure is hot in here!" and the second muffin turns and says "HOLY SHIT! A TALKING MUFFIN!"
my brother has one of these that takes like twenty minutes to tell and is about horse brothers and ends with basically the same punchline
i tried it out on frankie and after like one minute she was no longer listening and started doing something else
so the joke was on me
The best "slow build up" joke I've heard was over an hour long, involved lots of math and was told in a lecture I have the mp3 of by Richard Feynman. I tried to re-tell it a while back but its hard to capure his style: http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showpost.php?p=11348137&postcount=1084
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Since you ask, and it is a pathetic and feeble rhetorical dodge to try and warp the conversation into one where only parents have the "right" to speak out on this, I am indeed a parent. My son is 9 years old and, of course, fully vaccinated.
I would add to this little anecdote that my mother, though born after the invention of the vaccine, had polio as a child due to being from a poor family without access to proper medical care. She never grew beyond 4' 11" tall in a family where someone half a foot taller would be considered short. She also has a malformed right leg and has required a leg brace and cane to even walk her entire life (it's a damn lucky thing she wasn't in a wheelchair). She still has some chronic health problems caused by contracting polio during her adolescenent development.
Being a parent, and having gone through the calculus of harm as you suggested, has only made my conviction that anti-vaxxers are evil people even stronger.
Haha, no! I brought them from Germany with me, for eventual bloodsugar fumbles, you see. Had no trouble at all bringing them in, but on the way out they triggered some kind of alert. The swiped all of the stuff in my hand baggage, till the security lady exclaimed "it was the Mars!", while nearly falling down laughing. Left me baffled.
you know... since we're talkin' bout taint punching
What makes it the best joke is how everyone knows it but how many actually understand the punchline?
Whine is like 'wine' and whinge is like 'hinge'.
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oh his mother was incredibly easy to shake down for candy
didn't even have to throw a tantrum or turn on the charm
you just had to look at that bag of gummi bears and pow you were rolling in gummi goodness
ties are awesome
Kira learned that a long time ago. I gave her a little padded kitty bed on my desk so she has someplace to be when I'm on the computer.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Wow.
That is horrible.
Yeah well that's like your opinion man....
yes this exactly
they're whinging poms, not whining poms
I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
i like to ask frankie hypothetical questions
like
"do you think a cat would survive a 'delicate' cycle in the dishwasher?"
or
"do you think there's enough room in the fridge drawer to fit a medium-sized cat?"
There were two muffins sitting in an oven. The first muffin says "boy, it sure is hot in here!" and the second muffin turns and says "HOLY SHIT! A TALKING MUFFIN!"
Isn't it kind of a tautology that anyone with a camera and a couple grand can go to bed between two porn stars?
Replace 'Charlie Sheen' with 'random multi-millionaire celebrity'. It's good to be the king. Or the republican equivalent.
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My wife told me that on like our third or fourth date and it was one of the principal reasons I fell in love with her.
That and her boobs
make sure to switch arms and change up your wind-up so you don't burn out from tendonitis before you hit yorkshire
Then the first muffin says "I'm not a muffin I'm a Jew and so are you!"
And that's the ending to "Life is Beautiful".
ties are fantastic
for grown-ups i mean
this is obviously terrible but one thing in the article confused me
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I like suits, I just hate neckties
I kind of missing not wearing a tie for work.
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booooooooooooo
my brother has one of these that takes like twenty minutes to tell and is about horse brothers and ends with basically the same punchline
i tried it out on frankie and after like one minute she was no longer listening and started doing something else
so the joke was on me
herrs branstein und muffberg
See, I really like suits and neckties
I currently do not own a suit because my weight has fluctuated so much in the past few years, it has basically shut down the majority of my wardrobe
need to get a new suit, wear it, put on a tie
it's true!
someone might mistake you for a grown-up
I was told that by a girlfriend once.
I should have known she was crazy. I dumped her, her and her mom begged me to reconsider, I did, and two weeks later she cheated on me because "it just wasn't working out".
Ooooookaaaaay.
i don't know that it's possible to punish the croats any more than they've already been punished
and placing that level of trust in someone like me is an enormous hazard, yes
The best "slow build up" joke I've heard was over an hour long, involved lots of math and was told in a lecture I have the mp3 of by Richard Feynman. I tried to re-tell it a while back but its hard to capure his style: http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showpost.php?p=11348137&postcount=1084