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    Capt HowdyCapt Howdy Registered User regular
    edited January 2015
    Without Rupees? A long time. I play certain levels that almost guarantee a level per completion, and an affordable ($1K-$30K) second level up in Training Dojo. Technically, 150 stages x 6-10 minutes (Depending on Rack Up KO Count Stage). So 25 hrs, unless I borked the math.

    Or cut that in half using training dojo.

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    MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    Remember that the level cap is going increasing above 150. Keep saving those rupees!

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    Capt HowdyCapt Howdy Registered User regular
    edited January 2015
    I know. I had to get another 420 so I could add EXP and Legendary to it again.

    Thank the Goddess you can transfer Legendary. That 25k is a bitch.

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    MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    Seriously though, this next DLC pack is going to add a bunch of stuff to make grinding easier. I'm finding it super hard to play the game right now because I've become so spoiled on the new stuff. :)

    Not much longer now though...

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    WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    So rounding down and being generous, about 12 hours

    Per character

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Heh.

    I just got a weapon for Volga that wound up having the Vs Dragon skill. Awkward.

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    ZilikZilik Registered User regular
    Capt Howdy wrote: »
    I know. I had to get another 420 so I could add EXP and Legendary to it again.

    Thank the Goddess you can transfer Legendary. That 25k is a bitch.

    The cap on weapon power is 450, so Legendary will only add 30 power to a 420 weapon which makes it incredibly underwhelming for the amount of effort it takes to get it. I guess its there to let you use the weaker weapons if you want, but man was I frustrated when I found out how little it did.

    On the note of leveling, you have two good options. (assuming you have the DLC)
    The bottom left corner of the Master Quest map will net you about six levels in EXP per run even at the highest levels.
    The "Enemy Divides" maps on the Twilight Map are also a good source of EXP. Split the enemy officer into as many copies as you can, go into Focus Mode to get the EXP Bonus, and kill them all.

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    Capt HowdyCapt Howdy Registered User regular
    I rotate levels for EXP depending on character/element.

    And that +30 is almost like 5 free level ups. I take every advantage the game allows.
    Wyborn wrote: »
    So rounding down and being generous, about 12 hours

    Per character

    Pretty much. Could be closer to 9.5 depending on how many rupees you have.
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    Seriously though, this next DLC pack is going to add a bunch of stuff to make grinding easier. I'm finding it super hard to play the game right now because I've become so spoiled on the new stuff. :)

    Not much longer now though...

    Please let there be a "Always drops Gold material" potion.

    Using focus spirit helps gold drop rate, but not as much as I'd like.

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    Maz-Maz- 飛べ Registered User regular
    Yaaaay

    http://nintendoeverything.com/hyrule-warriors-has-done-pretty-well-for-koei-tecmo/
    Hyrule Warriors has done quite well overseas – the United States in particular. Take a look at some data compiled by NeoGAF’s “ZhugeEX” that compares sales of Hyrule Warriors to other Warriors entries in the states:

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    Since Japan is important, here’s a look at how Hyrule Warriors stacks up to other Musou entries:

    Wii U

    Hyrule Warriors ~130k
    Warriors Orochi 3 Hyper ~35k
    Fist of the North Star 2 ~15k

    Wii

    Samurai Warriors Katana – 35k
    Samurai Warriors 3 – 320k
    Samurai Warriors 3XL – 80k

    New IP Musou – sales in Japan for first game
    340k – Dynasty Warriors 2
    1060k – Samurai Warriors
    670k – Warriors Orochi (excl PSP/PC)
    660k – Dynasty Warriors Gundam (inc PS2)
    660k – Fist of the North Star
    70k – Warriors Legends of Troy
    860k – One Piece Pirate Warriors

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    CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    I cant say I finished Hyrule Warriors, I lost interest. But it really is the best DW game I ever played.

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    The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    Wyborn wrote: »
    So rounding down and being generous, about 12 hours

    Per character

    Well technically you only gotta do the full grind with one character. After that, you'd have to be cucco not to use rupees since there doesn't seem to be any other use. Or rather, most everything requires tiny amounts of rupees, it's training that's the money sink.

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    Capt HowdyCapt Howdy Registered User regular
    I wonder how much it has to sell for Nintendo to consider it a hit?

    Clearly it doesn't require CoD sales. Probably more like Endless Ocean? A million is considered amazing?

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    Maz-Maz- 飛べ Registered User regular
    Capt Howdy wrote: »
    I wonder how much it has to sell for Nintendo to consider it a hit?

    Clearly it doesn't require CoD sales. Probably more like Endless Ocean? A million is considered amazing?

    Koei Tecmo's expectations were to sell 500k copies of it, so the game is definitely a success.

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    The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    Nintendo has always been weird with sales expectations. One might even say... realistic.

    Were this EA or Activision, 3 million or GTFO.

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    I hope they try this idea again with another franchise.

    Fingers crossed for Fire Emblem Warriors. Or Star Fox Warriors. Or Kid Icarus Warrors. Or Samusou.

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    Maz-Maz- 飛べ Registered User regular
    Animal Crossing Warriors.

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    skeldareskeldare Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    edited January 2015
    Metroid Warriors would be amazing

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    KoopahTroopahKoopahTroopah The koopas, the troopas. Philadelphia, PARegistered User regular
    skeldare wrote: »
    Metroid Warriors would be amazing

    I have no idea how you would do that considering the lack of characters, but yeah count me in.

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    MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    skeldare wrote: »
    Metroid Warriors would be amazing

    I have no idea how you would do that considering the lack of characters, but yeah count me in.

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    chiasaur11chiasaur11 Never doubt a raccoon. Do you think it's trademarked?Registered User regular
    skeldare wrote: »
    Metroid Warriors would be amazing

    I have no idea how you would do that considering the lack of characters, but yeah count me in.

    Samus, Ridley, the bounty hunters from Hunters, the bounty hunters from Corruption, Fleet Admiral CASTOR DANE (HERO OF THE FEDERATION!), and U-Mos. Not a complete list, maybe, but that's at minimum a solid start.

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    KoopahTroopahKoopahTroopah The koopas, the troopas. Philadelphia, PARegistered User regular
    I guess I need to play the other primes, I didn't realize there were so many characters.

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    HallowedFaithHallowedFaith Call me Cloud. Registered User regular
    Holy shit Maz-. Animal Crossing Warriors would be insanely awesome.

    They could take the missions right from the game and it would be hilarious.

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    The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    Any time a Metroid game has tried to add characters, it gets mixed results and cries that Samus should be alone. And mute.

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    I thought people liked Prime 3? I mean, the other hunters don't last, but I liked them.

    Alternatively, Samusou would have you with no army of your own, with you destroying everything. But that wouldn't lend itself to as much as the others, strategy wise.

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    Capt HowdyCapt Howdy Registered User regular
    I wouldn't mind a Castlevania Warriors. Seems pretty easy to do.

    Though I'd really like NES Warriors. Then you could have Link, Samus, Bionic Commando, Simon Belmont, etc.

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    HallowedFaithHallowedFaith Call me Cloud. Registered User regular
    Disney Warriors would be cool.

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Castlevania Warriors could just repurpose the "plot" of Harmony Of Despair.

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    MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    I'm not saying I have inside info but....

    ...CAPTAIN N WARRIORS!

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    Capt HowdyCapt Howdy Registered User regular
    I'd lose my mind if they put out a Captain N game. Still pissed its not on Netflix/Hulu. My wife has never seen it and I have a fierce urge to remedy that.

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    chiasaur11chiasaur11 Never doubt a raccoon. Do you think it's trademarked?Registered User regular
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    I'm not saying I have inside info but....

    ...CAPTAIN N WARRIORS!

    Comic version, right?

    With 6'3'' bounty hunter with a heart of gold Samus?

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    Warlock82Warlock82 Never pet a burning dog Registered User regular
    edited January 2015
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    There, all skulltulas in Master Quest done :D Also all maps done, tho some are still silver and/or with rewards I need to get.

    I have a feeling the Twilight Princess one is gonna take me forever tho. It's damn hard. I think most maps are geared to 100+ level characters. I hope the Majora's Mask one isn't even harder, tho I suspect it might be :( But I guess if they work it like Master Quest's where that was sort of a level up map for Cia/Volga/Wizzro, maybe they can make this a levelup map for Tingle/Young Link (and maybe retroactively Midna?)

    Edit: Also, easiest idea for another Warriors game would be Fire Emblem. It grafts in perfectly. Though they are already doing a lot of Fire Emblem right now (assuming SMTxFE isn't cancelled at this point...) and I doubt it would sell as well as Hyrule Warriors (since that sells almost purely on the Zelda IP... FE isn't nearly as popular).

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    klemmingklemming Registered User regular
    Mushroom Kingdom Warriors?
    Plenty of characters, especially if you include the rpgs.

    Or why not got whole hog and just have Smash Bros Warriors?

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    Level 50, 4-star lvl2 hammer, and it took me 31 minutes to finish, along with taking more than twice the damage for A-rank.
    Might try bringing my level 90 Link in with co-op, but I think the super-shield moblins would still mess me up, and I don't think I can find a safe place to park Darunia while I clean up as Link.

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    Warlock82Warlock82 Never pet a burning dog Registered User regular
    Whelp, got all the items in Master Quest now. Just need to get 3 more golds and I'll have all of those too :P Which then means I have to move on to Twilight Princess map :P Booooo :D

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    Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    I still want Final Fantasy Warriors

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    King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    I still want Final Fantasy Warriors

    Its called Kingdom hearts

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    Capt HowdyCapt Howdy Registered User regular
    Warlock82 wrote: »
    Whelp, got all the items in Master Quest now. Just need to get 3 more golds and I'll have all of those too :P Which then means I have to move on to Twilight Princess map :P Booooo :D

    There are a few levels on Twilight map that I'm having serious issues with. One is a 700 ko map that throws everything AND the kitchen sink at you.

    Which normally isn't a big deal, but its super conservative with the easy kill nobodies, and very liberal with named characters and giant bosses. You can't just ignore the big boys and focus on the grunts.

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    KupiKupi Registered User regular
    Mushroom Kingdom Warriors would probably be the most plausible one. Any time I think of Fire Emblem Warriors, it just doesn't feel wacky enough to work. That is to say, the whole reason why Hyrule Warriors worked for me was it was something so completely different from the usual situation for The Legend of Zelda, taking something that usually has plodding and methodical combat and emphasizes exploration and discovery and cross-breeding it with this massive-scale military combat game series*. Fire Emblem, by contrast, already involves a bunch of high-ranking swordfighters carving their way through piles of grunts to settle political disputes. And given how little tolerance I have left for Musou after Hyrule Warriors, you'd need a wackier premise than Fire Emblem's mid-to-high fantasy to raise my eyebrows.

    * It didn't hurt that Skyward Sword ended with a sequence very much like what you do in Hyrule Warriors.

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    klemmingklemming Registered User regular
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    The demon opens his mouth, and the survivors are chilled by his battle cry...
    "Yeah! A-ha-ha!"

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    Capt HowdyCapt Howdy Registered User regular
    Hyrule Warriors goal of the day: 150 Darunia. 17 lvls to go. Should be able to knock that out when the kiddo takes his nap.

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    Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    edited January 2015
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    I still want Final Fantasy Warriors

    Its called Kingdom hearts

    I'd rather the game actually be fun tho and actually be a Musou game.

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