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[Wii U] The last hurrah before the NeXt generation arrives.

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    emnmnmeemnmnme Registered User regular
    Talith wrote: »
    When you consider inflation, wasn't the NES originally around $400 and the SNES around $330?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcyslT8U0Pw

    Google says $100 then is $208 now.

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    DirtyDirty Registered User regular
    That video says "1988" right in the title, which is 3 years after the NES debuted in the US. Wikipedia says the launch bundle's price was $299. That's like $671 today.

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    SwashbucklerXXSwashbucklerXX Swashbucklin' Canuck Registered User regular
    Which is why everybody I knew had a used NES. :)

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    MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    The Deluxe System was $249 and launched with a metric ton of accessories and games. 2 controllers, light gun, ROB, duck hunt, and gyromite. All that inflated would be like a bazillion dollars. The Control Deck was included an extra controller and Super Mario Bros.

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    Raybies666Raybies666 Registered User regular
    As someone who was buying SNES and games at launch, I always feel that the inflated costs over time feels strange. My SNES with Super Mario World cost 130 Irish pounds in 1992, about 240 euro now.

    I mean, the Wii launched for about 260 euro, which barely hits 270 in today's money, relatively more expensive than my SNES.

    That seems OK, but saying a NES costs 500 bucks in today's money seems way off. Something is up there. It reminds me of Australians who complain Nintendo screws them in price but when exchange rates are taken into account, they pay pretty much what I do.

    I had written more, but Wikipedia shows a NES with Super Mario Bros at launch for 100 US dollars so that says it all. I wish I'd done the research before I'd typed all that on a goddamn smartphone.

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    jothkijothki Registered User regular
    Basically, either every console generation before the current one and maybe the previous one was a massive ripoff, or the entire industry is engaged in a slow suicide pact.

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    Ivan HungerIvan Hunger Registered User regular
    edited October 2016
    The consumer technology industry is really weird. Inflation goes up, just like with everything else, but the actual value of the components goes down a lot faster than other products. The two sort of end up balancing each other out, so as other products seem to get more and more expensive all the time, the price of the latest tech ends up being remaining pretty constant.

    It won't be long before an apple costs as much as Apple. :P

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    KriegaffeKriegaffe Registered User regular
    After a bit of time with it, I'm completely fine with the card inventory system in Color Splash. There's actually a couple of subtle features to help reorganise that people probably aren't taking advantage of. Finding cards is actually a little mini-game in itself since shy guys will steal cards if you're too slow.

    I' also really enjoying the variety in level design. I just finished the haunted hotel, and even though I'm not yet halfway through the game, there's already been lots of funny and interesting scenarios.

    The only thing that has really annoyed me was the insta-death scenarios (i.e. "Princess").

    In general, this is rocketing up there to be amongst my favourite Wii U games. (... and to think I originally wrote it off as a rushed filler game to get through to the NX)

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    NightslyrNightslyr Registered User regular
    All I want is a Nintendo system I can plug into my TV that has an accessible controller. I miss Nintendo. I miss colorful, fun, happy games. I miss stomping on goombas. I want something I can play with my niece and nephew down the line, that will invoke the same kind of warm, happy memories in them that I have of my childhood.

    I mean, shit, most of what I watch on Twitch are retro games, or things like the new Paper Mario (which looks brilliant, BTW). I'm tired of headshots, and dreary drab super cereal slogs (totes cereal), and all the rest of modern gaming.

    Yeah, I'll play the new Dishonored when it comes out, and things like that, but I'm looking forward to something completely different. I remember playing hours of Pro Wrestling, Blades of Steel, and the various Marios when I was a kid. I remember the Christmas I got my SNES, and the handful of games I played over and over and over again (Hyperzone gets no love, and that's a legit shame). I want that again, those feelings. It's partly why I'm hoping they'll make a mini SNES box like the NES box that's supposed to be coming out this year, but it's also why I have all my fingers and toes crossed for the NX. I want to love Nintendo again, without waggle and touch (at least, without touch for anything but menus), etc. Just a pure gaming experience that's bright and happy and free.

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    DaveTheWaveDaveTheWave Registered User regular
    Actually, we here in Aus still get absolutely reamed on Tech costs and we were paying literally double when our dollar was at parity with the US dollar a few years ago.

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    CokomonCokomon Our butts are worth fighting for! Registered User regular
    edited October 2016
    After months of waiting, Nintendo finally comes out this week and announces the NX...



    ...and is immediately ignored when Rockstar announces the Red Dead sequel shortly after.

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    RidleySariaRidleySaria AnaheimRegistered User regular
    I guess that would be good incentive for Nintendo to do what they can to get Rockstar on board.....

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    CokomonCokomon Our butts are worth fighting for! Registered User regular
    I guess that would be good incentive for Nintendo to do what they can to get Rockstar on board.....

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    PMAversPMAvers Registered User regular
    Oh god, could you imagine the internet salt if Nintendo Bayo'd the next Red Dead and it was NX exclusive?

    It would be delicious.

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    TaramoorTaramoor Storyteller Registered User regular
    edited October 2016
    PMAvers wrote: »
    Oh god, could you imagine the internet salt if Nintendo Bayo'd the next Red Dead and it was NX exclusive?

    It would be delicious.

    The general response to Bayo 2 was "That sucks. I've waited years for this game, and sacrificed more than one goat, and swore I would pay as much as $500 for it, but if it's on a Nintendo system then I guess I'll never play it."

    I'm hoping Nintendo are funding BG&E2, just to see if the reaction is the same.

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    MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    I hope they money hat 4-5 long-dead/dormant franchises to exclusive NX status just to see if they can set a record for most blood vessels ruptured at a time. I think this will do:
    • BG&E 2
    • Eternal Darkness 2
    • Panzer Dragoon Saga 2
    • Grim Fandango 2
    • Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver 2
    • Valkyria Chronicles 4

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    RidleySariaRidleySaria AnaheimRegistered User regular
    PMAvers wrote: »
    Oh god, could you imagine the internet salt if Nintendo Bayo'd the next Red Dead and it was NX exclusive?

    It would be delicious.

    NX: It makes salt!

    That would be the new meme animated gif.

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    PMAversPMAvers Registered User regular
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    I hope they money hat 4-5 long-dead/dormant franchises to exclusive NX status just to see if they can set a record for most blood vessels ruptured at a time. I think this will do:
    • BG&E 2
    • Eternal Darkness 2
    • Panzer Dragoon Saga 2
    • Grim Fandango 2
    • Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver 2
    • Valkyria Chronicles 4

    Bonus points if they can keep Dyack away from Eternal Darkness 2.

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    cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    PMAvers wrote: »
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    I hope they money hat 4-5 long-dead/dormant franchises to exclusive NX status just to see if they can set a record for most blood vessels ruptured at a time. I think this will do:
    • BG&E 2
    • Eternal Darkness 2
    • Panzer Dragoon Saga 2
    • Grim Fandango 2
    • Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver 2
    • Valkyria Chronicles 4

    Bonus points if they can keep Dyack away from Eternal Darkness 2.

    Given that the dude has rendered himself unemployable by fucking around with other people's money, I doubt that will be a problem.

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    CokomonCokomon Our butts are worth fighting for! Registered User regular
    PMAvers wrote: »
    Oh god, could you imagine the internet salt if Nintendo Bayo'd the next Red Dead and it was NX exclusive?

    It would be delicious.

    This seems to imply an alternate universe version of Nintendo, one that cares about moneyhatting for western game support and actually pays attention to what's popular on competing platforms.

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    WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    I don't know if Nintendo could spend that much money

    Now a timed exclusive, on the other hand...

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    Ivan HungerIvan Hunger Registered User regular
    Nintendo moneyhatted three games for Wii U, Wonderful 101, Hyrule Warriors, and Tokyo Mirage Sessions. I'm not counting Bayonetta 2 and Devil's Third because those were already mostly developed before Nintendo stepped in and offered to help finish them off in exchange for exclusivity.

    So three games, all from Japanese developers, one of which is about a sentai hero team that takes place in Japan, another of which is a Musou game, and another of which is a JRPG about J-pop idols that takes place in Japan and never got an English dub.

    I think it's safe to conclude that Nintendo was not aggressively competing for the western market. They seem to be determined to remain relevant in their home nation, even if it means tanking the rest of their business. I often question if it's an actual strategy or just an extremely misguided sense of nationalism.

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    TalithTalith 変態という名の紳士 Miami, FLRegistered User regular
    edited October 2016
    Splatoon I'd say was a game trying to appeal to western gamers since we prefer FPS games a lot more than Japan. I kind of want to say Code Name STEAM was also just from setting and style but that might just be more of Japan and their love of using historical figures in funny ways.

    edit: Nevermind, we were talking money-hatted games here

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    CokomonCokomon Our butts are worth fighting for! Registered User regular
    Splatoon is the kind of cool I didn't think Nintendo was capable of, and a direction I was hoping they were going to continue exploring. Unfortunately, we only got this taste right before the year of silence happened, where we're left to guess what Nintendo's next direction is with the NX.

    Although both Zelda and Pokemon seem fresh and cool, so that's definitely a good sign for the future.

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    jothkijothki Registered User regular
    Cokomon wrote: »
    Splatoon is the kind of cool I didn't think Nintendo was capable of, and a direction I was hoping they were going to continue exploring. Unfortunately, we only got this taste right before the year of silence happened, where we're left to guess what Nintendo's next direction is with the NX.

    Although both Zelda and Pokemon seem fresh and cool, so that's definitely a good sign for the future.

    It's amazing how organically it managed to handle all of the memetics. I'd say that it could justify the existence of Miiverse entirely on its own.

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    TDawgTDawg Registered User regular
    To be fair, the Smash Bros. Miiverse stage is also pretty cool when it isn't just plastering vulgarities all over your screen.

    Like a lot of Nintendo ideas, Miiverse is a great idea that needed to be implemented just a bit more thoroughly to be really fucking great, and instead was just kind of...a thing???

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    DirtyDirty Registered User regular
    All I know is that I'd love it if my home menu wasn't littered with comments I don't care about from people I don't know.

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    DarmaniDarmani Registered User regular
    Cokomon wrote: »
    After months of waiting, Nintendo finally comes out this week and announces the NX...



    ...and is immediately ignored when Rockstar announces the Red Dead sequel shortly after.

    Huh this happened? Where? When?

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    edzeppedzepp Registered User regular
    Darmani wrote: »
    Cokomon wrote: »
    After months of waiting, Nintendo finally comes out this week and announces the NX...



    ...and is immediately ignored when Rockstar announces the Red Dead sequel shortly after.

    Huh this happened? Where? When?

    It's just a humorous 'could-happen' scenario. Rockstar posted an image that may or may not have anything to do with Red Dead earlier.

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    LBD_NytetraynLBD_Nytetrayn TorontoRegistered User regular
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    I hope they money hat 4-5 long-dead/dormant franchises to exclusive NX status just to see if they can set a record for most blood vessels ruptured at a time. I think this will do:
    • BG&E 2
    • Eternal Darkness 2
    • Panzer Dragoon Saga 2
    • Grim Fandango 2
    • Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver 2
    • Valkyria Chronicles 4

    Throw in exclusivity for new Mega Man and Konami titles for good measure.

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    DirtyDirty Registered User regular
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    I hope they money hat 4-5 long-dead/dormant franchises to exclusive NX status just to see if they can set a record for most blood vessels ruptured at a time. I think this will do:
    • BG&E 2
    • Eternal Darkness 2
    • Panzer Dragoon Saga 2
    • Grim Fandango 2
    • Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver 2
    • Valkyria Chronicles 4

    Throw in exclusivity for new Mega Man and Konami titles for good measure.

    Sounds like a monkey's paw scenario.

    "Metal Gear Survive 2: exclusive to NX!"

    "Capcom and Inafune bury the hatchet to bring Mega Man to the NX, running on the Mighty No.9 engine!"

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    Skull2185Skull2185 Registered User regular
    Wasn't there already a Soul Reaver 2? I think there was. What was the one where you played as both Kain and Raziel? Defiance, I think? I'd like another one of those.

    Everyone has a price. Throw enough gold around and someone will risk disintegration.
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    UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    I hope they money hat 4-5 long-dead/dormant franchises to exclusive NX status just to see if they can set a record for most blood vessels ruptured at a time. I think this will do:
    • BG&E 2
    • Eternal Darkness 2
    • Panzer Dragoon Saga 2
    • Grim Fandango 2
    • Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver 2
    • Valkyria Chronicles 4

    Throw in exclusivity for new Mega Man and Konami titles for good measure.

    The grand revival of Bomberman!

    :(

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    cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    I hope they money hat 4-5 long-dead/dormant franchises to exclusive NX status just to see if they can set a record for most blood vessels ruptured at a time. I think this will do:
    • BG&E 2
    • Eternal Darkness 2
    • Panzer Dragoon Saga 2
    • Grim Fandango 2
    • Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver 2
    • Valkyria Chronicles 4

    Throw in exclusivity for new Mega Man and Konami titles for good measure.

    The grand revival of Bomberman Act Zero!

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    IncindiumIncindium Registered User regular
    edited October 2016
    Oops I'm a dummy fake twitter account.

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    Dark Raven XDark Raven X Laugh hard, run fast, be kindRegistered User regular
    edited October 2016
    edit; people can lie on the internet!?

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    IncindiumIncindium Registered User regular
    Bogus twitter account... sorry about that... it took me a minute to notice.

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    PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    That's a fake twitter account.

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    AxenAxen My avatar is Excalibur. Yes, the sword.Registered User regular
    edited October 2016

    MNC Dover wrote: »
    I hope they money hat 4-5 long-dead/dormant franchises to exclusive NX status just to see if they can set a record for most blood vessels ruptured at a time. I think this will do:
    • BG&E 2
    • Eternal Darkness 2
    • Panzer Dragoon Saga 2
    • Grim Fandango 2
    • Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver 2
    • Valkyria Chronicles 4

    Throw in exclusivity for new Mega Man and Konami titles for good measure.

    But wait, there's more!

    Jet Force Gemini 2
    Quest 2
    F-Zero NX


    Basically just all the games from the N64 era. :razz:

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