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    Cameron_TalleyCameron_Talley Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Frem wrote: »
    Kreutz wrote: »
    I'm a little afraid that, with all of the new things they're adding to the game, there's going to be too much to keep track of.

    Given the masterful rate at which they introduced new elements in the first game, I wouldn't worry too much. Didn't you go through like three or four puzzles before even getting the second part of the portal gun?

    Also, remember how the companion cube originated. When they first tested that level, it was just a normal cube, and people were trying all sorts of ridiculous things to try and circumvent the puzzles because they'd assumed the cube wasn't important and left it behind. Thus, the companion cube was born.

    Also remember how reflexes didn't actually matter much at all until the latter part of the game. I'm sure part of the reason the game is being delayed is so that they can smooth out the learning curve.

    Just replayed it last night; you don't get the second part of the gun until Chamber 10.

    The videos kind of remind me of the expert videos from New Super mario Bros. I'm sure normal people don't have to play it that crazily to succeed.

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    SorensonSorenson Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    gunwarrior wrote: »
    You can continue on like nothing happened. But you should get an achievement for doing an optional, ridiculously tough portal jump to save the cube mid-air before it falls into the pit. I would love that
    Something that could be quite mindfucking would be the idea of
    a battered and charred Companion Cube continually popping up in the test chambers, each time of which you have to use it as a sacrificial lamb of sorts in even worse and worse ways, and every time it retains all the unique decals it gets from being shot and battered around and shit. That it's not just a companion cube but the companion cube and that you're only able to survive by heaping loads and loads of horrible abuse upon the thing could lead to some mighty interesting reactions, not to mention dialogue if the game could detect certain specific instances of what you did to the poor thing.

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    NuzakNuzak Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Sorenson wrote: »
    gunwarrior wrote: »
    You can continue on like nothing happened. But you should get an achievement for doing an optional, ridiculously tough portal jump to save the cube mid-air before it falls into the pit. I would love that
    Something that could be quite mindfucking would be the idea of
    a battered and charred Companion Cube continually popping up in the test chambers, each time of which you have to use it as a sacrificial lamb of sorts in even worse and worse ways, and every time it retains all the unique decals it gets from being shot and battered around and shit. That it's not just a companion cube but the companion cube and that you're only able to survive by heaping loads and loads of horrible abuse upon the thing could lead to some mighty interesting reactions, not to mention dialogue if the game could detect certain specific instances of what you did to the poor thing.
    GLaDOS ties the companion cube to a railtrack, and if you don't free it, the train car bumps into it slightly with a soft *donk*

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    AydrAydr Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Kupi wrote: »
    subedii wrote: »
    reVerse wrote: »
    Who's Rat Man?
    It's sort of the name some fans gave to whoever it was that was leaving messages and blood-stained signals for you all over the facility.

    We never did find out who they were, or whether they managed to escape or what. We just knew that they had been a lot of the places you had gone, and they left messages in strategic place trying to help you (or maybe just anyone) in trying to escape.

    This individual may or may not have also been the one scrawling messages about companion cubes and otherwise going crazy with cabin fever in those hidden rooms with graffiti all over them. We don't exactly know how many test participants there have been before Chell.
    Or if Chell is just getting cycled through the test a billion times.

    Actually, (new video spoilers)
    GLaDOS seems to have settled that debate. In one one the videos she says she hasn't killed you yet, which implies that Chell clones have not been running the gauntlet and getting killed over and over.

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    NappuccinoNappuccino Surveyor of Things and Stuff Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Aydr wrote: »
    Kupi wrote: »
    subedii wrote: »
    reVerse wrote: »
    Who's Rat Man?
    It's sort of the name some fans gave to whoever it was that was leaving messages and blood-stained signals for you all over the facility.

    We never did find out who they were, or whether they managed to escape or what. We just knew that they had been a lot of the places you had gone, and they left messages in strategic place trying to help you (or maybe just anyone) in trying to escape.

    This individual may or may not have also been the one scrawling messages about companion cubes and otherwise going crazy with cabin fever in those hidden rooms with graffiti all over them. We don't exactly know how many test participants there have been before Chell.
    Or if Chell is just getting cycled through the test a billion times.

    Actually, (new video spoilers)
    GLaDOS seems to have settled that debate. In one one the videos she says she hasn't killed you yet, which implies that Chell clones have not been running the gauntlet and getting killed over and over.
    How does that imply clones exactly? It just implies that all the other test subjects died earlier and GLaDOS assumes that your fate is sealed as well. It is just taking longer to kill you.

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    mspencermspencer PAX [ENFORCER] Council Bluffs, IARegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    It's just one interpretation, I'd say.

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    AydrAydr Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Nappuccino wrote: »
    Aydr wrote: »
    Kupi wrote: »
    subedii wrote: »
    reVerse wrote: »
    Who's Rat Man?
    It's sort of the name some fans gave to whoever it was that was leaving messages and blood-stained signals for you all over the facility.

    We never did find out who they were, or whether they managed to escape or what. We just knew that they had been a lot of the places you had gone, and they left messages in strategic place trying to help you (or maybe just anyone) in trying to escape.

    This individual may or may not have also been the one scrawling messages about companion cubes and otherwise going crazy with cabin fever in those hidden rooms with graffiti all over them. We don't exactly know how many test participants there have been before Chell.
    Or if Chell is just getting cycled through the test a billion times.

    Actually, (new video spoilers)
    GLaDOS seems to have settled that debate. In one one the videos she says she hasn't killed you yet, which implies that Chell clones have not been running the gauntlet and getting killed over and over.
    How does that imply clones exactly? It just implies that all the other test subjects died earlier and GLaDOS assumes that your fate is sealed as well. It is just taking longer to kill you.
    That's what I'm saying... I said it implies that clones HAVEN'T been running the gauntlet, AKA they were other subjects that were killed rather than just Chell over and over.

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    mspencermspencer PAX [ENFORCER] Council Bluffs, IARegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Well, it's still debatable.
    Chamber 19's design suggests every test subject eventually falls into the fire. There have been test subject fatalities, unless Chell was the first person to occupy the test chamber in its current form. (It's still plausible the wall writings happened when the test chamber was in a different, non-lethal configuration.)

    These previous test subjects may have been other independent people, or they may have been Chell clones.

    If they were Chell clones, maybe the language Glados uses means she has never killed this specific Chell clone -- a weaker assertion -- or it means she has never killed any Chell clone -- a stronger assertion that lets us make inferences.

    So a better summary would be "either there are no Chell clones who have been test subjects, or Glados was saying "never killed you before" in the weaker sense that only refers to her current clone, not all clones.

    Also for some reason I feel like if Chell has clones, she should have exactly six clones. I don't know why. ;-)

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    KupiKupi Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Aydr wrote: »
    Nappuccino wrote: »
    Aydr wrote: »
    Kupi wrote: »
    subedii wrote: »
    reVerse wrote: »
    Who's Rat Man?
    It's sort of the name some fans gave to whoever it was that was leaving messages and blood-stained signals for you all over the facility.

    We never did find out who they were, or whether they managed to escape or what. We just knew that they had been a lot of the places you had gone, and they left messages in strategic place trying to help you (or maybe just anyone) in trying to escape.

    This individual may or may not have also been the one scrawling messages about companion cubes and otherwise going crazy with cabin fever in those hidden rooms with graffiti all over them. We don't exactly know how many test participants there have been before Chell.
    Or if Chell is just getting cycled through the test a billion times.

    Actually, (new video spoilers)
    GLaDOS seems to have settled that debate. In one one the videos she says she hasn't killed you yet, which implies that Chell clones have not been running the gauntlet and getting killed over and over.
    How does that imply clones exactly? It just implies that all the other test subjects died earlier and GLaDOS assumes that your fate is sealed as well. It is just taking longer to kill you.
    That's what I'm saying... I said it implies that clones HAVEN'T been running the gauntlet, AKA they were other subjects that were killed rather than just Chell over and over.
    I never said Chell died. Just that she's been doing this over and over and over. You've seen the new ending, right? Cehll gets dragged off by one of the drones that was waiting for her to "assume the party submission position" (or whatever). My pet theory is that Chell is the only test subject (left), and everything up to and including destroying GLaDOS's shell is part of the trial.

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    SmokeStacksSmokeStacks Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I would think that
    having clones run the tests over and over again would be a fairly poor way of getting data, unless the test chambers changed from clone to clone, and Chell was chosen or created for a very specific purpose due to her level of ability (similar to the guy from Idiocracy) and they are just taking massive amounts of data on one subject.

    I like to think of it more like in Cube, where it's just a bunch of really, really unlucky people who get chosen to go through the test chambers. It is sort of implied during the game that Chell is there because of something she did in the past.

    But I'm like 0/1 on Portal theories so far - I thought that the "Enrichment Center" was actually the ever-changing internal area of the Borealis (the areas outside of the test chambers with their rusty rails and metal stairways made me think "cargo freighter" much moreso than "scientific complex"), and that the destruction of GlaDos was the reason that the Borealis teleported mysteriously, and that the parking lot and trees that you see at the end of Portal were part of the drydock that was described to have teleported with the Borealis.

    But then Portal 2 shows screens of Jungles and stuff, so that pretty much shot my theory all to hell.

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    InigoInigo Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Just watched all the portal 2 trailers at http://www.gametrailers.com/game/portal-2/12821

    Im sooo psyched!

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    PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    There's a video of Portal 2 from gamescom.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRxafex-1Ec

    It contains both some new and some previously shown stuff. Also, it appears that the voice for Wheatley has changed.

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    RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I can get behind this Wheatley. If anything, his voice sounds more authentically English.

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    LaCabraLaCabra MelbourneRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Game looks super fuckin' rad.

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    FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2010
    I like the release date

    2/9/11

    2+9 = 11

    11 11
    ( ) ( )
    it's two portals
    if you squint really hard and have bad eyesight

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    RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    FyreWulff wrote: »
    I like the release date

    2/9/11

    2+9 = 11

    11 11
    ( ) ( )
    it's two portals
    if you squint really hard and have bad eyesight

    *Headasplode*

    Also, it will make a very nice late Birthday Present for me.

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    LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    New voice of Wheatley is Stephen Merchant (co-writer of The Office, and involved in most of Ricky Gervais's stuff). Also had a minor role in Hot Fuzz.

    Good call.

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    FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2010
    Well, considering that the original voice was placeholder done by a Valve employee...

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    subediisubedii Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Well, time to hit the media blackout button.

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    FawstFawst The road to awe.Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Wait, so I'm new to this whole Portal thing. I just bought Still Alive for 360 a couple weeks ago and have done every challenge except for trapping myself to the point where GLaDOS has to help.

    So... there's a different ending? How does that work?

    You have a name other than "Subject *unintelligible French-sounding stuff*," who must be the pride of "Subject *more unintelligible French-sounding stuff*?"

    WTF is the Borealis?

    Is there stuff in the PC version that the 360 version got gypped on, or is this all "you didn't read enough, brah," style not-an-uberfan failings on my part?

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    DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Fawst wrote: »
    Wait, so I'm new to this whole Portal thing. I just bought Still Alive for 360 a couple weeks ago and have done every challenge except for trapping myself to the point where GLaDOS has to help.

    So... there's a different ending? How does that work?

    You have a name other than "Subject *unintelligible French-sounding stuff*," who must be the pride of "Subject *more unintelligible French-sounding stuff*?"

    WTF is the Borealis?

    Is there stuff in the PC version that the 360 version got gypped on, or is this all "you didn't read enough, brah," style not-an-uberfan failings on my part?

    The Borealis is only talked about in Half Life 2: Episode 2 so if you haven't played it you wouldn't know about it. It's a big boat owned by Aperture Science that mysteriously disappeared, along with the docks it was anchored at. And as for how they know the main character's name is Chell, I don't have a clue.

    Also, I'm with subedii in that I think it's time I stopped reading anything about it until it gets released.

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    FawstFawst The road to awe.Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Gah, I guess I should actually play through The Orange Box version of HL2. My PC can't handle it. I played through HL2 when it launched at approximately 15fps or less. NEVER AGAIN!!!

    EDIT: And your avatar fucking rules.

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    subediisubedii Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Darmak wrote: »
    Fawst wrote: »
    Wait, so I'm new to this whole Portal thing. I just bought Still Alive for 360 a couple weeks ago and have done every challenge except for trapping myself to the point where GLaDOS has to help.

    So... there's a different ending? How does that work?

    You have a name other than "Subject *unintelligible French-sounding stuff*," who must be the pride of "Subject *more unintelligible French-sounding stuff*?"

    WTF is the Borealis?

    Is there stuff in the PC version that the 360 version got gypped on, or is this all "you didn't read enough, brah," style not-an-uberfan failings on my part?

    The Borealis is only talked about in Half Life 2: Episode 2 so if you haven't played it you wouldn't know about it. It's a big boat owned by Aperture Science that mysteriously disappeared, along with the docks it was anchored at. And as for how they know the main character's name is Chell, I don't have a clue.

    Also, I'm with subedii in that I think it's time I stopped reading anything about it until it gets released.

    - Different ending: In the lead up to the Portal 2 announcement, Valve issued an innocuous update to Portal that introduced some mysterious radios around the levels (this was only on the PC version, for obvious reasons it would've been difficult to achieve the same effect on the 360 / PS3 at the time). It was all part of a pretty awesome ARG they cooked up. The radios transmitted messages in morse code, as well as some other sound files. There were also some other new files in the directory that bore analysing. Translating the files led to a few discoveries, namely a some weird pictures (when the sound files were played back through a TV? Something along those lines), and eventually the telephone number to a BBS associated with Aperture science, which started spitting out ASCII art that looked suspiciously Portal related, and that people started analysing like crazy.

    - Eventually Portal 2 was announced, and the actual ending to Portal 2 was slightly modified. Not much, just a little, you can see the change on youtube if you want to look it up.

    - We know her name is Chell from the end credits. And also because the official Prima guide refers to her as Chell.

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    FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2010
    Also Chell = Shell, as in a shell for the player

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    LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    and the models filename if I am not mistaken.

    The common theory is that she's an android.

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    PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    FyreWulff wrote: »
    I like the release date

    2/9/11

    2+9 = 11

    11 11
    ( ) ( )
    it's two portals
    if you squint really hard and have bad eyesight

    I like how your random avatar showed me a blurry one along with this post.
    LewieP wrote: »
    and the models filename if I am not mistaken.

    The common theory is that she's an android.

    Please don't start that. People have argued about that before. It was stupid.

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    augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    LewieP wrote: »
    and the models filename if I am not mistaken.

    The common theory is that she's an android.

    That is a theory, and a theory with almost nothing to back it up.

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    LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Yeah, she's obviously a human.

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    BethrynBethryn Unhappiness is Mandatory Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    FyreWulff wrote: »
    I like the release date

    2/9/11

    2+9 = 11

    11 11
    ( ) ( )
    it's two portals
    if you squint really hard and have bad eyesight
    1111 is the code to the intelligence in TF2.

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    FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2010
    Bethryn wrote: »
    FyreWulff wrote: »
    I like the release date

    2/9/11

    2+9 = 11

    11 11
    ( ) ( )
    it's two portals
    if you squint really hard and have bad eyesight
    1111 is the code to the intelligence in TF2.

    Newellllllllllllllllllllll

    edit:

    1\1ewe11

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    El GuacoEl Guaco Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    LewieP wrote: »
    and the models filename if I am not mistaken.

    The common theory is that she's an android.

    OH NO YOU DI'N'T!!!!

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    AzadIsCoolAzadIsCool Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    LewieP wrote: »
    Yeah, she's obviously a human.

    How does she survive until Portal 2 then?

    Just sayin'.

    Actually the reason I came here was to say the thread title is wrong and stuff.

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    maximumzeromaximumzero I...wait, what? New Orleans, LARegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    AzadIsCool wrote: »
    LewieP wrote: »
    Yeah, she's obviously a human.

    How does she survive until Portal 2 then?

    Just sayin'.

    Actually the reason I came here was to say the thread title is wrong and stuff.

    Do we know with all certainty that it's the same main character?

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    LockeColeLockeCole Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    AzadIsCool wrote: »
    LewieP wrote: »
    Yeah, she's obviously a human.

    How does she survive until Portal 2 then?

    Just sayin'.

    Actually the reason I came here was to say the thread title is wrong and stuff.

    Do we know with all certainty that it's the same main character?

    Pretty sure, also she was put in status in the new ending of Portal 1. I swear to got I will personally track down and shoot anyone that starts the android thing again.

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    AzadIsCoolAzadIsCool Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    AzadIsCool wrote: »
    LewieP wrote: »
    Yeah, she's obviously a human.

    How does she survive until Portal 2 then?

    Just sayin'.

    Actually the reason I came here was to say the thread title is wrong and stuff.

    Do we know with all certainty that it's the same main character?

    "It's been a long time. How have you been? I've been really busy being dead. You know...after you murdered me? Okay look, we both said a lot of things that you are going to regret. But I think we should put our differences behind us. For science. You monster."

    How many people could this possibly be directed at?

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    KlorgnumKlorgnum Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    AzadIsCool wrote: »
    LewieP wrote: »
    Yeah, she's obviously a human.

    How does she survive until Portal 2 then?

    Magic.

    Alternatively: the game's writers decide that Aperture Science has cryogenic technology. Or time-warp stuff. Or whatever the G-Man uses.

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    KreutzKreutz Blackwater Park, IARegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Or it just took a long time for anyone to find Chell's charging station.

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    SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Klorgnum wrote: »
    AzadIsCool wrote: »
    LewieP wrote: »
    Yeah, she's obviously a human.

    How does she survive until Portal 2 then?

    Magic.

    Alternatively: the game's writers decide that Aperture Science has cryogenic technology. Or time-warp stuff. Or whatever the G-Man uses.

    Took a Sloooooooooow portal

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    JaramrJaramr Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Kreutz wrote: »
    Or it just took a long time for anyone to find Chell's charging station.

    Blacked for you wanting to bring chaos and anarchy to this thread.

    Or just making a joke.

    But seriously, do not bring up that android stuff Ever Again

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    PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Apparently Gametrailers TV is going to show some Portal 2 stuff, including a teaser for the co-op.
    http://www.gametrailers.com/video/episode-321-gametrailers-tv/703139

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