rangers can cast druid spells and clerics can cast cleric spells. ranger/clerics being able to cast both spells is something that just makes sense
I have no complaints about druid weapons because they can use belm and later spectral brand or club of detonations. dual wielding isn't that special unless you can use kundane/belm/scarlet ninja-to, all you get is one more attack per round and you are giving up 1/4 of your armor class.
rangers can cast druid spells and clerics can cast cleric spells. ranger/clerics being able to cast both spells is something that just makes sense
The issue is that rangers can cast very limited druid spells, clerics can cast no druid spells, and ranger/clerics can cast all druid spells. The multiclass gets something that isn't available to either of its constituent classes. Though whether it's a bug or not isn't that important, I suppose. The point is, ranger/clerics are crazy powerful -- I think we can all agree there.
Are skillbooks still in? Because they broke all kinds of things (especially ranger/clerics since you can get two wis books).
19 str 19 dex 19 con 20 wis (other stats not so good) ironskins melee and spellcasting rape machine? Yeah game gets boring preeeetty quickly...
Edit: As point of reference the proper way to powergame is also to dualclass your ranger/cleric. Tho I cant remeber if the sweetspot is 7 or 9 levels. This is because you can get a ton of xp early in bg2 so you will get full class very quickly but you lose less than a level of cleric (79k exp I belive) while you get a ton of weapon profencies, lots of extra thac0 and of course both spell trees on a dedicated caster. Clerics also have decent figthing progression so with the fighter base your just as capable as a warrior in melee (better because cleric has some amazing self buffs and ironskins are like stoneskin for your figthers).
Are skillbooks still in? Because they broke all kinds of things (especially ranger/clerics since you can get two wis books).
19 str 19 dex 19 con 20 wis (other stats not so good) ironskins melee and spellcasting rape machine? Yeah game gets boring preeeetty quickly...
Edit: As point of reference the proper way to powergame is also to dualclass your ranger/cleric. Tho I cant remeber if the sweetspot is 7 or 9 levels. This is because you can get a ton of xp early in bg2 so you will get full class very quickly but you lose less than a level of cleric (79k exp I belive) while you get a ton of weapon profencies, lots of extra thac0 and of course both spell trees on a dedicated caster. Clerics also have decent figthing progression so with the fighter base your just as capable as a warrior in melee (better because cleric has some amazing self buffs and ironskins are like stoneskin for your figthers).
While a dualclass is certainly strong for the reasons mentioned, I would argue that multi is better if you have access to ToB simply because of fighter HLAs. In my opinion, when powergaming, you should always multiclass if you have ToB simply because you get access to two classes' HLAs. The only exception I would make are very particular dual classes that take advantage of very strong kits, such as Wizard Slayer -> Thief.
I personally prefer multiclassing my Ranger/Clerics due not only to the aforementioned HLAs, but also because your Cleric levels will get high enough in BG2 to net you your Cleric alignment ring.
The extra weapon proficiencies with a dual-cleric tend to go to waste since you run out of meaningful places to put them and the extra THAC0 tends to not matter due to the Ranger's naturally good THAC0 as well as the myriad Cleric buffs, not to mention weapons like Crom Faeyr.
If I'm going to go the dual-class route, I'd rather just do Berserker->Cleric like I did in my previous playthrough.
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I remember in bg1 there was a trick you could use to get 5 stars in weapon proficiancy by dual classing, and this was back when you got +5 damage from it. I think if you started out a fighter then dual classed once you got your 4th star to either a cleric or a thief you would get your 5th star right as your fighter ones reactivated.
I dunno that I'd call that a trick, it worked that way in the PnP as well. You regained any previous proficiency points when your new class was higher level than your old class, and they stacked if you spent points in both classes on the same proficiencies.
They don't actually stack properly in BG1+2, unless BGEE changes/fixes it; if you had two stars in something as one class, then put two stars into it as a class you dualed over to, you'd only have two stars in that proficiency when you got your previous class' levels back.
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that said i noticed if i dropped my resolution to 1360x768 or some shit from 1080 and then launched the game, the hud wouldnt be as blurry, its still ugly and comic booky with clashing colours but at least most of the blurriness has gone.
gonna wait until its patched up/dlc/modding support before i switch from tutu.
They don't actually stack properly in BG1+2, unless BGEE changes/fixes it; if you had two stars in something as one class, then put two stars into it as a class you dualed over to, you'd only have two stars in that proficiency when you got your previous class' levels back.
Well that's because most classes were limited to two proficiency slot by default rules, which was almost always house ruled in my experience.
I can't dig up my Player's Handbook to actually check that though, so grain of salt and all that.
I still don't care how poorly it fits from a flavor point, I still love playing Kensai. I don't even care about dual-classing into ridonculousness. I just like the idea of a warrior that doesn't wear armor. Made early game tutu a little tricky though. One thing I did find out in dual classing. If you never hit the level up button until you get your fighter levels back, you can spend points as if you are a fighter.
kensai dualed to a mage gets stupid powerful too, and gives you an actual reason to use all those weapon-based mage spells. But it isn't something you'll get working properly until midway through SoA.
If you just want a relatively easy early-game playthrough of BG1, be a ranger. Ranger/cleric is strong but multiclassing slows you down a lot early on, and a ranger with four ranks of the longbow skill will do stupid damage throughout BG1 even with low-end weapons.
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regret buying this. framerate stutters and dies and sound cuts in and out. on the forums they attribute this to integrated cards which I do not have, I have a very good PC. the only support option i can find is to post on the forums, which does nothing. so I just get to have a broken game for 20 bucks.
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So I started playing a game of BGEE. Turns out your shit breaks? I bought a swank two handed sword for my half-orc kensai (19 STR 18 DEX 19 CON yes baby) and... it literally broke in my first fight. Is there any reason for me to keep the broken bits or what?
So I started playing a game of BGEE. Turns out your shit breaks? I bought a swank two handed sword for my half-orc kensai (19 STR 18 DEX 19 CON yes baby) and... it literally broke in my first fight. Is there any reason for me to keep the broken bits or what?
It's part of the plot.
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Okay then; also, how big is this game memory wise? Is it still about 4-5GB?
It's just under 2 GB.
Only that much? I remember it being a lot more space O_O
Well, I'm not worried about being able to run it; IIRC, they said if you could play BG2 on your computer, you can play the enhanced edition too.
You should be a little worried due to bugs. I have an awesome computer but it stutters and fucks up constantly for me. I'm sure it works fine for plenty of people, but, yeah.
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Sweet jesus my party of four has been ruined by this black bear three times now.
That's your own fault. If you hadn't realized that your star soldier would fail their will saves, well...You deserve to have the illithids eat your brains.
Sweet jesus my party of four has been ruined by this black bear three times now.
The real Baldur's Gate begins when you fight the mage assassin at Friendly Arms Inn. Fucker took me 3 tries first time I fought him.
really? vanilla bg mage at the FAI isnt scary. you just go up to him and punch him with your 4 dudes swords disrupting any spell and killing him before he can do anything. scs mage on the other hand, that fucker has your entire party asleep and confused the second he sees you while slaughtering the entire courtyard of npc's he's agro'd
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I have no complaints about druid weapons because they can use belm and later spectral brand or club of detonations. dual wielding isn't that special unless you can use kundane/belm/scarlet ninja-to, all you get is one more attack per round and you are giving up 1/4 of your armor class.
The issue is that rangers can cast very limited druid spells, clerics can cast no druid spells, and ranger/clerics can cast all druid spells. The multiclass gets something that isn't available to either of its constituent classes. Though whether it's a bug or not isn't that important, I suppose. The point is, ranger/clerics are crazy powerful -- I think we can all agree there.
19 str 19 dex 19 con 20 wis (other stats not so good) ironskins melee and spellcasting rape machine? Yeah game gets boring preeeetty quickly...
Edit: As point of reference the proper way to powergame is also to dualclass your ranger/cleric. Tho I cant remeber if the sweetspot is 7 or 9 levels. This is because you can get a ton of xp early in bg2 so you will get full class very quickly but you lose less than a level of cleric (79k exp I belive) while you get a ton of weapon profencies, lots of extra thac0 and of course both spell trees on a dedicated caster. Clerics also have decent figthing progression so with the fighter base your just as capable as a warrior in melee (better because cleric has some amazing self buffs and ironskins are like stoneskin for your figthers).
While a dualclass is certainly strong for the reasons mentioned, I would argue that multi is better if you have access to ToB simply because of fighter HLAs. In my opinion, when powergaming, you should always multiclass if you have ToB simply because you get access to two classes' HLAs. The only exception I would make are very particular dual classes that take advantage of very strong kits, such as Wizard Slayer -> Thief.
The extra weapon proficiencies with a dual-cleric tend to go to waste since you run out of meaningful places to put them and the extra THAC0 tends to not matter due to the Ranger's naturally good THAC0 as well as the myriad Cleric buffs, not to mention weapons like Crom Faeyr.
If I'm going to go the dual-class route, I'd rather just do Berserker->Cleric like I did in my previous playthrough.
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It's not like I'm not going to buy this anyway, but I'm curious.
There's this, but it's not really what you had in mind:
http://forum.baldursgate.com/discussion/7953/list-of-the-good-and-the-bad-constructive-reference-material/p1
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that said i noticed if i dropped my resolution to 1360x768 or some shit from 1080 and then launched the game, the hud wouldnt be as blurry, its still ugly and comic booky with clashing colours but at least most of the blurriness has gone.
gonna wait until its patched up/dlc/modding support before i switch from tutu.
Well that's because most classes were limited to two proficiency slot by default rules, which was almost always house ruled in my experience.
I can't dig up my Player's Handbook to actually check that though, so grain of salt and all that.
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It's just under 2 GB.
If you just want a relatively easy early-game playthrough of BG1, be a ranger. Ranger/cleric is strong but multiclassing slows you down a lot early on, and a ranger with four ranks of the longbow skill will do stupid damage throughout BG1 even with low-end weapons.
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Heck, giving everyone bows/slings was the only way I survived early game.
It's part of the plot.
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Only that much? I remember it being a lot more space O_O
Well, I'm not worried about being able to run it; IIRC, they said if you could play BG2 on your computer, you can play the enhanced edition too.
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You should be a little worried due to bugs. I have an awesome computer but it stutters and fucks up constantly for me. I'm sure it works fine for plenty of people, but, yeah.
That's X-Com baby!
.... wait.
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No, X-Com was having Commander Sigourney Weaver (75 TUS, 95 accuracy, power armor and a heavy plasma) mind-controlled. The fuckers.
I believe the extent to which ranged weaponry is overpowered will be revealed by the answer.
The real Baldur's Gate begins when you fight the mage assassin at Friendly Arms Inn. Fucker took me 3 tries first time I fought him.
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I would sacrifice Xzar and Montaron to that guy because I wasn't going to keep them around anyway. That'd take up 2-3 of his magic missiles.
five CDs seemed like a lot back in the day when you didn't have an external you could rip them all to without even eating 1% of it
SoA is bigger though, I think my SoA+ToB folder is like 7 gigs or something
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How much of that is mods? (Which I grant still will not be very large.)
yes, cross-platform too.
really? vanilla bg mage at the FAI isnt scary. you just go up to him and punch him with your 4 dudes swords disrupting any spell and killing him before he can do anything. scs mage on the other hand, that fucker has your entire party asleep and confused the second he sees you while slaughtering the entire courtyard of npc's he's agro'd
scs mages is true fear.