i really want to figure out a better format for prose online. browser-based prose sucks right now. this was as far as my latest plaything got - i thought i'd given up on it but maybe i had a spark or two today. maybe.
edit: html is just so bad for readable prose, particularly when dialogue's involved. designing it is one thing, actually rendering it cleanly can be impossible
pipe must have been reading from my diary when he made this thread.
I think I'll be persuing a career in web design. There are a lot of things I enjoy about print but there is so much about it that I absolutely hate. Been working on some flash stuff lately. One of these days I'll be a pro at it and make all of the money.
I always really like the ways you layout things with birdville, Bsjezz.
And I understand the problem you're talking about. But I would say that the problem lies much more with the accepted ratio of width that computer screens have come upon.
I have learned that Graphic Design is something in which an actual university degree is more hindrance than help.
this is only correct if you wait until you get your degree to get a job
the designers i know without degrees are morons
but some of the designers i know with degrees are also morons
maybe some people are just morons
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edited February 2011
oh my goodness this thread
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I always really like the ways you layout things with birdville, Bsjezz.
And I understand the problem you're talking about. But I would say that the problem lies much more with the accepted ratio of width that computer screens have come upon.
thanks, man! i appreciate the compliment, especially since i'm having a bit of a crisis of what the hell i'm doing with myself right now. it's a bit [livejournal] but i'm in that little ebb where the things i've spent a lot of time on feel like they are inconsequential and i just want to forget about everything and live in the woods for a while. but i know i can't do that. you tough it out.
you've given me the extra ounce of power to zone out and finish importing all of birdville's content over to wordpress tonight. layout's the same, it's just going to make it a hell of a lot easier for future issues, and in case the prospect of a redesign comes up
I have learned that Graphic Design is something in which an actual university degree is more hindrance than help.
I disagree, but only if you realise the degree itself is pretty much useless and instead focus on making contacts with the Right People and building a portfolio.
That said, I'm still at uni so maybe I'll learn otherwise.
I know it's only circumstantial evidence, but I know about half a dozen designers with a degree and none of them have a design job, although not for lack of searching
In my experience, the guys who do short, intense, up-to-date, practical courses have a much easier time finding work, partly because they know how to deal with realistic deadlines, they know how to be diverse and they're taught very practically instead of theoretically
but also because 3 or 4 years is a damn long time to be studying an industry that moves so fast. By the time people earn a degree, they've decided they want to specialise in something so they either don't look for or have a hard time getting work in any other speciality.
It's dangerous to be a specialist without any actual real-world experience in that field.
In my mind a better way to spend those three years is 6 months studying and 2 and a half years earning on-the-job experience.
agree.
its like any other vocational skill.
I know a lot of unemployed artists with a mountain of school debt. Not that I think the degree itself is a hinderance, although the debt certainly is, but degrees rarely help more than self education would.
i'm reading this thread in a weird order but this post tree fills me with white hot rage
oh my god
A couple of friends who've done degrees have sent me their portfolios to look over
and there's a page showing a four page folded flyer or whatever
and at the bottom it's like "Flyer - Photoshop and InDesign - completed in 3 weeks"
and I tell them to maybe not include that bolded part
We usually just had those types of projects during the first year sequence. Second year the teacher would throw random 30 minute and 2 hour projects at us. I preferred those. Right now we're doing corporate design and creating entire design sets over about 2-3 weeks.
it's funny the number of design and marketing places around here who will order foamboard or whatever at 4pm and i'll be like "the courier might not be there until 6, is that okay? will anyone be there?" and they're like "ahahaha. yes."
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Blake TDo you have enemies then?Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered Userregular
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Man, if shit has got to be done, I don't mind doing it.
But when I mentioned I need to spend some time on it his response was a "why didn't you do this at home, I did mine there"
Firstly you are the boss. You get to do as much or as little as you wish.
Secondly. I have just seen yours. It looks like crap. It's solid text without a unifying font size, has no background or even any pictures and isn't so much of a PowerPoint presentation as a small essay on every slide.
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edited February 2011
I do love how every engineer hates my profession, and 95% of the time its not my fault for any design change, but the fault of codes/mechanical/clients/the city. In the end it sucks for everyone whenever the design gets changed, we hate it too.
Right now I hate the interior designers, as those bitches got the intention that they needed to move around the entire interior of a 300000sf building for pretty much no reason. But because they have the ear of the client right now i have to accommodate them. Thus tomorrow i have to tell structures to move some beams and columns, so they will hate and blame me. They will move those columns and piss off the mechanical, who will piss off electrical, yadda yadda yadda we are all fucked.
At least i dont dress up in black like some douchebags i work with.
For some reason that begs the question to me, what do game designers dress like?
I don't know. I think game designers can come from a pretty diverse background.
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Blake TDo you have enemies then?Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered Userregular
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Baccardi just call up the engineers and curse out the interior decorators for a bit then tell them the bad news and how your not happy either and it will effect you too because blah blah they won't really care why it effects you but they at least won't be angry at you.
BarcardiAll the WizardsUnder A Rock: AfganistanRegistered Userregular
edited February 2011
In the end its really just the clients fault for wanting so much but paying so little. I hate being on projects that someone else started.
I would not want to piss off interiors, they are the only office with 100% boobs. I dont want to anger the boobs contingent. But then again they are all on vacation now (with a deadline in 2 weeks) so whatever.
if you want to see boobs, work in the web marketing branch of a major womens clothing line
this has multiple levels of meaning
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BarcardiAll the WizardsUnder A Rock: AfganistanRegistered Userregular
edited February 2011
I design schools. Is sad just how much stuff gets value engineered into "well we want to save even more money, so let's jet cancel everything and put up all relocatable classrooms"
Say goodbye to that new theatre and cafeteria we promised. Your school superintendent wants that money for the football team n
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but its for an architectural firm (do not recommend this path)
edit: html is just so bad for readable prose, particularly when dialogue's involved. designing it is one thing, actually rendering it cleanly can be impossible
I think I'll be persuing a career in web design. There are a lot of things I enjoy about print but there is so much about it that I absolutely hate. Been working on some flash stuff lately. One of these days I'll be a pro at it and make all of the money.
And I understand the problem you're talking about. But I would say that the problem lies much more with the accepted ratio of width that computer screens have come upon.
and also purple 527
this is only correct if you wait until you get your degree to get a job
the designers i know without degrees are morons
but some of the designers i know with degrees are also morons
maybe some people are just morons
best described as Darkish Greyish Greenish Blue
Need some stuff designed or printed? I can help with that.
a good thread
thanks, man! i appreciate the compliment, especially since i'm having a bit of a crisis of what the hell i'm doing with myself right now. it's a bit [livejournal] but i'm in that little ebb where the things i've spent a lot of time on feel like they are inconsequential and i just want to forget about everything and live in the woods for a while. but i know i can't do that. you tough it out.
you've given me the extra ounce of power to zone out and finish importing all of birdville's content over to wordpress tonight. layout's the same, it's just going to make it a hell of a lot easier for future issues, and in case the prospect of a redesign comes up
oh my god
We usually just had those types of projects during the first year sequence. Second year the teacher would throw random 30 minute and 2 hour projects at us. I preferred those. Right now we're doing corporate design and creating entire design sets over about 2-3 weeks.
This is hardly viable! There are so many flaws I am puking. In my butt.
Heeere's what you should build Blake.
To be fair, that concept doesn't apply in Texas.
It would be an art/design blog essentially
Things that i find cool plus a mix of stuff I'm working on, maybe a link to a storefront
I started diving into it but my lack of CSS knowledge is making it difficult to get a nice looking design built
A properly designed belt buckle can hold an infinite amount of belly fat.
My boss thinks it is easy and should be done in my spare time.
I am unimpressed.
Satans..... hints.....
but it is the absolute worst if you're giving a speech and not a presentation
I am so glad I've never had a job in which I was expected to do work on my off time.
If I can't do it by five, no problem, it'll still be there tomorrow.
Need some stuff designed or printed? I can help with that.
But when I mentioned I need to spend some time on it his response was a "why didn't you do this at home, I did mine there"
Firstly you are the boss. You get to do as much or as little as you wish.
Secondly. I have just seen yours. It looks like crap. It's solid text without a unifying font size, has no background or even any pictures and isn't so much of a PowerPoint presentation as a small essay on every slide.
So angry.
Satans..... hints.....
Right now I hate the interior designers, as those bitches got the intention that they needed to move around the entire interior of a 300000sf building for pretty much no reason. But because they have the ear of the client right now i have to accommodate them. Thus tomorrow i have to tell structures to move some beams and columns, so they will hate and blame me. They will move those columns and piss off the mechanical, who will piss off electrical, yadda yadda yadda we are all fucked.
At least i dont dress up in black like some douchebags i work with.
Black is out.
Now it's skinny jeans, blazers, and shitty alt rock t-shirts.
Get with the times my man!
okay, dad.
I don't know. I think game designers can come from a pretty diverse background.
Satans..... hints.....
I would not want to piss off interiors, they are the only office with 100% boobs. I dont want to anger the boobs contingent. But then again they are all on vacation now (with a deadline in 2 weeks) so whatever.
Wait is this the work thread or a design thread?
this has multiple levels of meaning
Say goodbye to that new theatre and cafeteria we promised. Your school superintendent wants that money for the football team n
the aristocratic assholes that run every university in the country do it because they're super nice guys