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TexiKen
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Do you have some questions about comics? Well, so does the industry!
This is the new comic book questions thread, where you can come to ask and find answers to such questions as:
-What issues of Daredevil did Joe Kelly write? (#365-375)
-What issue of Ultimate Spider-Man introduced Ultimate Gwen Stacy? (#14)
-I just finished reading Sandman, what other titles are there that I may enjoy? (Hellblazer, Unwritten, Y: The Last Man, Fables)
-How awesome a writer is Kurt Busiek? (the most awesome writer ever)
So if you need advice on a new series to pick up, a question about a character or plotline, or simply wondering what your favorite creator is working on right now, this is the thread for you to find your answer.
This is the new comic book questions thread, where you can come to ask and find answers to such questions as:
-What issues of Daredevil did Joe Kelly write? (#365-375)
-What issue of Ultimate Spider-Man introduced Ultimate Gwen Stacy? (#14)
-I just finished reading Sandman, what other titles are there that I may enjoy? (Hellblazer, Unwritten, Y: The Last Man, Fables)
-How awesome a writer is Kurt Busiek? (the most awesome writer ever)
So if you need advice on a new series to pick up, a question about a character or plotline, or simply wondering what your favorite creator is working on right now, this is the thread for you to find your answer.
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Thunderbolts #144
Bob Harras was the group editor for collected editions (trades) at DC before he was promoted to EiC, and it seems that Ian Sattler is the current boss of the reprint department.
So send him a letter, and tell your LCS to ask DC for it the next time they ask shops for their opinions.
Also Thunderbolts was always awesome.
But yeah, Thunderbolts Classic comes out in April reprinting the first Busiek/Bagley issues, give it a read, it's very good stuff.
Has anyone reverse engineered Peter's web fluid, be they hero or villain? We get Reed and Tony saying he's smart but have they ever said "oh hey even I couldn't have come up with that, nice job."
yeah, he did, they came from a tank on his back
I really really really like this costume
the bottom one, I mean
Well
OK then
I dig it
Can anyone vouch for the rest of the series?
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Also, Trapster (Paste Pot Pete) has something like web-shooters. His adhesive doesn't dissipate after an hour, but that arguably makes it better.
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But, yes, it does seem like they keep jerking her (and the readers) around for a while. There was some good payoff around issue #10 or so, but then it went off on its own thing. I heard it was cancelled so I figure when I get around to it I need to pick up the issues I missed in trades and see if Wilson provided closure.
The delays really killed the momentum originally, and even now in trade form it still reads as scattered.
It would seem to me that pencils are half-finished art, and the inker finishes it. I've seen good inkers and bad inkers and the inking has a big effect on the final art. Why is the comic billing always Writer / Penciller when the inker has such a big impact?
Thanks!
I have no idea why professional comic book artists do it, but with my art it's a time issue more than anything. The big name artists seem have enough trouble getting 20-30 pages a month drawn of just pencils, and good inking can take just as long. If I have good breakdowns, I can get a book of decent looking pencils done in a month. No way I could do that if I was inking and coloring. But I'm a hobbyist, not a pro, so I may be way off the mark.
As far as the inker not getting as much credit, I know more comic writers than I do artists, but from what I understand, a lot of the time the penciler works directly with the writer and will be the only person that sees the breakdowns. An inker doesn't get the art until later on, when it's already almost complete, and works with the editor and colorist, oftentimes not having any real contact with either the writer or penciler. Plus there is the whole perception of inkers being seen as just tracers, as seen in Chasing Amy. It takes a while reading comics before you start to take notice of different inking styles and how important they are to the work.
I would say that you're incorrect in assuming pencils are "half-finished art," though. For instance, Kevin Maguire's work on the Defenders mini-series from a few years ago wasn't inked, and it still looked pretty fantastic. Likewise, Atomic Robo's Scott Wegener just pencils really tightly over blue pencil, and it's then adjusted digitally to look like inks.
As for why the penciller gets billing over the inker, I think it's because they're primarily responsible for the look of the book. Pencillers define the flow of a page, the panel arrangement, the shape of the characters, proportions, perspective, etc. The inker (and colorist) definitely do their part to make the finished product look better and complete, but they're kind of like house-painters, whereas the penciller is the construction crew that built the house.
I don't want to seem dismissive of what inkers do (just look at Guarding the Globe #3 to see how unattractive an inking clusterfuck can make a book), but I think it's fair to say they have less impact on the look of the book, than the penciller does.
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I want the finished chupacabra pages on my desk by Tuesday
And where's parker?
I need those pictures of spider-man on my desk ten minutes ago
I need that beat sheet two weeks ago
I ain't honor no contracts
None at all.
well, as long as we're on the same page then
Ahahahahahaha
I really don't know as this was a very bad time for me I remember just some random stuff from the comic
There's also JLA: Year One, which deals with his role in the newly formed Justice League.
And he's also a major character in Grant Morrison's JLA run, not to mention the Justice League International stuff that Munch loves so dearly.
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It is fantastic
Also the Showcase Presents: Martian Manhunter books are fun reads too, if you love you some Silver Age Wackiness