miranda's death was for me pretty morbidly hilarious
she sends me an email all "we should meet up next time you're on the citadel!"
I say okay this is a thing I am interested in doing
I forget
a few missions later, she sends me another
"we missed each other last time but I'll be on the citadel again, we should talk"
and I say okay I am going to actually meet her this time
whoops, forget again
see her on horizon
I imagine shepard waving eagerly all "hey miranda!!"
I'm still working on ME2 and I'm doing the loyalty missions.
In Jack's loyalty mission I stopped her from shooting Aresh.
So I said I need to step it up a bit with this renegade thing and just did Garrus's.
Despite everything and having already played it through in my paragon run back when ME2 came out (thus knowing how it turned out)... I just clicked the options and let him go through with it.
I felt dirty afterward.
So basically I am the Worst. Renegade. Ever.
And having already beaten ME3 boy howdy that certainly lends a new perspective on Mordin's loyalty mission. I think I'm saving that one for last.
I'm still working on ME2 and I'm doing the loyalty missions.
In Jack's loyalty mission I stopped her from shooting Aresh.
So I said I need to step it up a bit with this renegade thing and just did Garrus's.
Despite everything and having already played it through in my paragon run back when ME2 came out (thus knowing how it turned out)... I just clicked the options and let him go through with it.
I felt dirty afterward.
So basically I am the Worst. Renegade. Ever.
And having already beaten ME3 boy howdy that certainly lends a new perspective on Mordin's loyalty mission. I think I'm saving that one for last.
There were dots to connect to Joker's sister being dead? Last I remember he was hopeful because she was a teenager and the survivors from Tiptree didn't include adults
ambient dialogue spoiler
the PTSD asari in the hospital killed his sister
the asari only names her once or twice and it may have been deep in the conversation line but i dont remember
Oh fuck.
I went all the way through that ambient dialogue because a friend pointed out how good it was, but I had long forgotten the details of the farm girl.
Goddamn.
She also almost definitely killed his dad. Everyone but Gunny at the farm was indoctrinated, and she ripped them to shreds with her biotics.
Man, for the only guy guaranteed to live through the series, Joker really goes through the ringer.
La la la la, not listening.
PTSD Asari fairly major minor spoilers
yeah
I caught Joker's side of the story before the Asari's
so I knew as soon as I heard Tiptree it was going to be bad
but I didn't think it would be
that bad
and then I checked into the Specter office and was like what the fuck, game?!
So has the trailer shown at the BioWare panel been discussed yet?
(Also, 80 pages late, but sorry about my break down in the last thread. you guys.)
yeah they released it online at the same time, so we ended up seeing the trailer before we saw anything about it showing up in the panel
A trap is for fish: when you've got the fish, you can forget the trap. A snare is for rabbits: when you've got the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words are for meaning: when you've got the meaning, you can forget the words.
There were dots to connect to Joker's sister being dead? Last I remember he was hopeful because she was a teenager and the survivors from Tiptree didn't include adults
ambient dialogue spoiler
the PTSD asari in the hospital killed his sister
the asari only names her once or twice and it may have been deep in the conversation line but i dont remember
Oh fuck.
I went all the way through that ambient dialogue because a friend pointed out how good it was, but I had long forgotten the details of the farm girl.
Goddamn.
She also almost definitely killed his dad. Everyone but Gunny at the farm was indoctrinated, and she ripped them to shreds with her biotics.
Man, for the only guy guaranteed to live through the series, Joker really goes through the ringer.
La la la la, not listening.
PTSD Asari fairly major minor spoilers
yeah
I caught Joker's side of the story before the Asari's
so I knew as soon as I heard Tiptree it was going to be bad
but I didn't think it would be
that bad
and then I checked into the Specter office and was like what the fuck, game?!
According to one of the BioWare writers...
They wanted to include an option for the people who wanted to "punish" her for killing Joker's sister.
They also claimed these people were may have been jerks.
So has the trailer shown at the BioWare panel been discussed yet?
(Also, 80 pages late, but sorry about my break down in the last thread. you guys.)
The new multi stuff?
Yes. We're really excited. Also, there's been more talk of what's going down with the modified ending on Weeke's twitter and in the ether of forum chatter. It's looking better already.
but you can take some small solace in the knowledge that your conscience has been sacrificed for the greater good
I think one reason the renegade path is so totally terrible is
(ending)
You never get to see that the vicious decisions you had to make as a renegade ended up helping the cause at all. If anything it tends to make things worse. And with the ending so vague and the same basically no matter what you do, it just ends up feeling like cruelty to no purpose, instead of being the guy that had to make the hard decisions.
Your paragon choices might make shit bad in the future, but that's all speculation on the part of the player.
Whereas you see every damn consequence of going renegade.
Which sort of makes sense thematically, since 3 is all about friendship, trust, and cooperation, but as far as gameplay goes it does just end up seeming like the bad route.
A trap is for fish: when you've got the fish, you can forget the trap. A snare is for rabbits: when you've got the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words are for meaning: when you've got the meaning, you can forget the words.
There were dots to connect to Joker's sister being dead? Last I remember he was hopeful because she was a teenager and the survivors from Tiptree didn't include adults
ambient dialogue spoiler
the PTSD asari in the hospital killed his sister
the asari only names her once or twice and it may have been deep in the conversation line but i dont remember
Oh fuck.
I went all the way through that ambient dialogue because a friend pointed out how good it was, but I had long forgotten the details of the farm girl.
Goddamn.
She also almost definitely killed his dad. Everyone but Gunny at the farm was indoctrinated, and she ripped them to shreds with her biotics.
Man, for the only guy guaranteed to live through the series, Joker really goes through the ringer.
La la la la, not listening.
PTSD Asari fairly major minor spoilers
yeah
I caught Joker's side of the story before the Asari's
so I knew as soon as I heard Tiptree it was going to be bad
but I didn't think it would be
that bad
and then I checked into the Specter office and was like what the fuck, game?!
According to one of the BioWare writers...
They wanted to include an option for the people who wanted to "punish" her for killing Joker's sister.
They also claimed these people were may have been jerks.
but you can take some small solace in the knowledge that your conscience has been sacrificed for the greater good
I think one reason the renegade path is so totally terrible is
(ending)
You never get to see that the vicious decisions you had to make as a renegade ended up helping the cause at all. If anything it tends to make things worse. And with the ending so vague and the same basically no matter what you do, it just ends up feeling like cruelty to no purpose, instead of being the guy that had to make the hard decisions.
Your paragon choices might make shit bad in the future, but that's all speculation on the part of the player.
Whereas you see every damn consequence of going renegade.
Which sort of makes sense thematically, since 3 is all about friendship, trust, and cooperation, but as far as gameplay goes it does just end up seeming like the bad route.
tuchanka
at least in the case of the genophage, the only way to get maximum war assets is to go hardline renegade in all three games. Without Wrex and Eve around the krogan fall for your trick and support you, and the salarians also pitch in full support. And as a bonus you don't have to kill Mordin.
but you can take some small solace in the knowledge that your conscience has been sacrificed for the greater good
I think one reason the renegade path is so totally terrible is
(ending)
You never get to see that the vicious decisions you had to make as a renegade ended up helping the cause at all. If anything it tends to make things worse. And with the ending so vague and the same basically no matter what you do, it just ends up feeling like cruelty to no purpose, instead of being the guy that had to make the hard decisions.
Your paragon choices might make shit bad in the future, but that's all speculation on the part of the player.
Whereas you see every damn consequence of going renegade.
Which sort of makes sense thematically, since 3 is all about friendship, trust, and cooperation, but as far as gameplay goes it does just end up seeming like the bad route.
tuchanka
at least in the case of the genophage, the only way to get maximum war assets is to go hardline renegade in all three games. Without Wrex and Eve around the krogan fall for your trick and support you, and the salarians also pitch in full support. And as a bonus you don't have to kill Mordin.
AND the renegade option makes Rannoch much easier to settle.
Kill the heretics, less Quarians died so far and peace is easier. Let them live, and missing any other points for peace will ensure a bloodbath.
Renegade sometimes pays off in this one without making you feel like shit.
but you can take some small solace in the knowledge that your conscience has been sacrificed for the greater good
actually no doing garrus's loyalty mission the renegade way doesn't really serve any greater good, you are literally a dracula
I know right?
Though in some ways I think doing Jack's mission renegade is worse since (as paragon Shep points out) Aresh likely can't do anything and is harmless. Sidonis is, at least, guilty.
I actually read that last week as I was resuming my renegade run. I definitely know what you're getting at.
What I'm finding as I do this run is that to make up for things that I think are horrible I go around and do the renengade options for the sidequests. I call it, "well, I stopped Jack from murdering that guy, time to go kick some puppies".
I could've sworn that on my renegade shep I saved the queen and told mordin to work on the genophage cure because hell yes I wanted an army of bugs and dinosaurs
but evidently I killed the queen and destroyed the cure
I'm doing a kind of renegade run now. And I forgot how when you get enough Renegade points your shepard starts to look like Evilguy McScars
I actually figured it was more evil to get them fixed up, so I did that as soon as they started showing (which was after I used the intimidate options during Tali's loyalty mission).
Actually Tali's loyalty mission is about the same either way as long as you don't actually present the evidence. Watching Shep bullshit in front of the admirals is hilarious either way.
Edit: The Charm option is "I don't need evidence" and I just always hear that in my head as "Evidence? Where we're going we don't need evidence."
I just don't buy into the "eye for an eye" philosophy I guess. In my paragon run it sort of felt like the last chance to get Garrus to see that as well. (Which, as I recall, is something you work on in ME1.)
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This is the real truth.
she sends me an email all "we should meet up next time you're on the citadel!"
I say okay this is a thing I am interested in doing
I forget
a few missions later, she sends me another
"we missed each other last time but I'll be on the citadel again, we should talk"
and I say okay I am going to actually meet her this time
whoops, forget again
see her on horizon
I imagine shepard waving eagerly all "hey miranda!!"
then she dies
possibly because I kept forgetting about her
@horseshoe you still on??
My friend and I are gonna do some multi. Feel free to join us.
My Origin is StiltsTheGM if you don't have it yet.
Though you probably do, 'cuz holy damn I have a big friends list.
I'm still working on ME2 and I'm doing the loyalty missions.
In Jack's loyalty mission I stopped her from shooting Aresh.
So I said I need to step it up a bit with this renegade thing and just did Garrus's.
Despite everything and having already played it through in my paragon run back when ME2 came out (thus knowing how it turned out)... I just clicked the options and let him go through with it.
I felt dirty afterward.
So basically I am the Worst. Renegade. Ever.
And having already beaten ME3 boy howdy that certainly lends a new perspective on Mordin's loyalty mission. I think I'm saving that one for last.
(Also, 80 pages late, but sorry about my break down in the last thread.
Yeah, I know how that is.
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PTSD Asari fairly major minor spoilers
I caught Joker's side of the story before the Asari's
so I knew as soon as I heard Tiptree it was going to be bad
but I didn't think it would be
that bad
and then I checked into the Specter office and was like what the fuck, game?!
(Several critical spoilers.)
5/1000 people killed Mordin.
Damn near everybody saved both the geth and quarians.
yeah they released it online at the same time, so we ended up seeing the trailer before we saw anything about it showing up in the panel
that feeling never really goes away
but you can take some small solace in the knowledge that your conscience has been sacrificed for the greater good
According to one of the BioWare writers...
They also claimed these people were may have been jerks.
actually no doing garrus's loyalty mission the renegade way doesn't really serve any greater good, you are literally a dracula
The new multi stuff?
Yes. We're really excited. Also, there's been more talk of what's going down with the modified ending on Weeke's twitter and in the ether of forum chatter. It's looking better already.
Why I fear the ocean.
that dude is a pathetic sad sack
I cheered for Batarian Engineer.
I screamed for Geth Infiltrator.
I shit my pants at Krogan Vanguard.
I exploded at the mention of "free content."
no statistic shall dampen my conviction
even by this reasoning, it's only been like 2 weeks since it happened
dude can get some therapy and get over it if you don't murder him just because your bro wants to
like, to the extent that the vast majority of players would be locked out of it on their first playthrough
http://www.audioentropy.com/
I feel this way about basically every choice
punish me, Bioware
on one hand there isn't all that much to be gained by killing him
but on the other hand you mow down entire armies every day, just because sidonis has a sob story doesn't really elevate him in my eyes
http://www.audioentropy.com/
I think one reason the renegade path is so totally terrible is
(ending)
Your paragon choices might make shit bad in the future, but that's all speculation on the part of the player.
Whereas you see every damn consequence of going renegade.
Which sort of makes sense thematically, since 3 is all about friendship, trust, and cooperation, but as far as gameplay goes it does just end up seeming like the bad route.
http://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/comment/22440436#Comment_22440436
tuchanka
http://www.audioentropy.com/
I got 2 friends with me, we'll send an invitewhen we're donethis match
Kill the heretics, less Quarians died so far and peace is easier. Let them live, and missing any other points for peace will ensure a bloodbath.
Renegade sometimes pays off in this one without making you feel like shit.
Why I fear the ocean.
I know right?
Though in some ways I think doing Jack's mission renegade is worse since (as paragon Shep points out) Aresh likely can't do anything and is harmless. Sidonis is, at least, guilty.
I actually read that last week as I was resuming my renegade run. I definitely know what you're getting at.
What I'm finding as I do this run is that to make up for things that I think are horrible I go around and do the renengade options for the sidequests. I call it, "well, I stopped Jack from murdering that guy, time to go kick some puppies".
but evidently I killed the queen and destroyed the cure
whoooooooooops
http://www.audioentropy.com/
I actually figured it was more evil to get them fixed up, so I did that as soon as they started showing (which was after I used the intimidate options during Tali's loyalty mission).
Actually Tali's loyalty mission is about the same either way as long as you don't actually present the evidence. Watching Shep bullshit in front of the admirals is hilarious either way.
Edit: The Charm option is "I don't need evidence" and I just always hear that in my head as "Evidence? Where we're going we don't need evidence."
Twitch (I stream most days of the week)
Twitter (mean leftist discourse)
everyone's always on my case for my decisions and nobody bats an eye at this "yeah I let garrus kill sidonis for wasting my time" talk
There are levels of evil.