You need this to use my catalogue I guess. I hope it is working. Let me know if you see major issues. I found one, lord was listed at 60 not 65 base. So go ahead and grab the newer catalog here.
Spotted the first wonky thing. Veterans of the Long War is spelt wrong ("Vetrans") for the Dark Apostle, Chaos Lord and Sorcerer. Also the Warpsmith can take it as many times as he wants where it should just be a check box.
You have Noise Marines being allowed to take one Blast Master (and only one) no matter what the size of the unit is. It should be 1 per 10, so 10+ is 1 Blastmaster and 20 is 2 Blastmasters.
Cultists are also broken. They throw up an error when you add Weapon Carriers no matter how big the unit is. The unit is also capped at 30 instead of 35. And for extra fun, the exchange of Autopistol for Autogun shouldn't be all or nothing, the squad can be half and half according to the codex.
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You need this to use my catalogue I guess. I hope it is working. Let me know if you see major issues. I found one, lord was listed at 60 not 65 base. So go ahead and grab the newer catalog here.
There we go, having the game system did the trick. I'll have a play around and see if I spot anything wonky.
Mazzyx
Spotted the first wonky thing. Veterans of the Long War is spelt wrong ("Vetrans") for the Dark Apostle, Chaos Lord and Sorcerer. Also the Warpsmith can take it as many times as he wants where it should just be a check box.
You have Noise Marines being allowed to take one Blast Master (and only one) no matter what the size of the unit is. It should be 1 per 10, so 10+ is 1 Blastmaster and 20 is 2 Blastmasters.
Cultists are also broken. They throw up an error when you add Weapon Carriers no matter how big the unit is. The unit is also capped at 30 instead of 35. And for extra fun, the exchange of Autopistol for Autogun shouldn't be all or nothing, the squad can be half and half according to the codex.
Alright, I will get around to fixing it when I get the chance. The blastmaster thing was me running off 5th in my head. But as I said it isn't idiot proofed so if you can take something illegal just don't at the moment.
But some of these are easy fixes. I might get them done today but school is kind of dumping on me this week(one major group project and a midterm+starting a final for the 6 week course that is due next Saturday).
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So, this thing?
Is in the book. The triple cannon is a S10 laser that gets D3 shots and has a chance to feedback and blow up the reactor if it fails to penetrate the target. Good job it's a 2SP super-heavy then. Damn thing is a beast, and the Typhon (same hull, but with a giant demolisher cannon instead) too.
Sorry if this is mentioned in a(ny) rulebook, I'm posting this away from home. But if a Superheavy Flyer is shot upon and successfully performs a Dive! action to avoid the hit, can it perform a Bombing Run in it's following turn?
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Looks like Maelstrom Games is going in the shitter.
It looks like there may be foul play afoot at Maelstrom Games.
Today they sent out the fourth (?) "moving warehouse sale" in three months or whatever it is. It doesn't take that long...
They have apparently stopped selling via Paypal, presumably thanks to a huge amount of non-delivery claims recently.
The have set up a mirror site at The Eye of the Storm.
There are claims that they have racked up a considerable debt.
Yeah, they transferred their successful mini lines to a new shell company (Mierce Miniatures) so they wouldn't get dragged into the shitter with Maelstrom proper. :P
Just out of curiosity, how does flying psykers work out? Can I still use multiple powers in combination with vector strikes etc?
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Vector Strikes count as using a shooting attack, as does using a Psychic Witchfire. MCs can fire two guns per turn, so you can Vector Strike and fire 1 Witchfire/Gun.
Of course Maledictions/Blessings don't count as shooting attacks so you could use those with impunity.
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Horus Heresy book in hand. This is every bit a $130 book.
I don't see how it would, as it can only snapfire yes? Snapfiring precludes all blast weapons. But then again, I'm using Jink rules not "dive" rules.
Whoops, "Dive" is for Flying Monsterous Creatures, "Jink" is for Flyers. Same effect, just different term. I know after a Jink save, you may only Snap Shoot. But was wondering if the rules were different for Bombing [as well as/or] being a Super Heavy Flyer.
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Looks like Maelstrom Games is going in the shitter.
It looks like there may be foul play afoot at Maelstrom Games.
Today they sent out the fourth (?) "moving warehouse sale" in three months or whatever it is. It doesn't take that long...
They have apparently stopped selling via Paypal, presumably thanks to a huge amount of non-delivery claims recently.
The have set up a mirror site at The Eye of the Storm.
There are claims that they have racked up a considerable debt.
Looks like Maelstrom Games is going in the shitter.
It looks like there may be foul play afoot at Maelstrom Games.
Today they sent out the fourth (?) "moving warehouse sale" in three months or whatever it is. It doesn't take that long...
They have apparently stopped selling via Paypal, presumably thanks to a huge amount of non-delivery claims recently.
The have set up a mirror site at The Eye of the Storm.
There are claims that they have racked up a considerable debt.
Has anyone blamed GW for putting them out of business yet?
While there's no doubt that the embargo put a hit on their income, the fact that they owe their suppliers a shit ton of money (someone on dakka mentioned it in the 500,000+ range) and still aren't fulfilling orders - GW or not - there's really no grounds to claim GW is the devil here. They fucked up badly, and that's about it, and now they're trying to save their Banelegions line of models through a shell company.
What's that? You like 6th Edition, and Grey Knights, and Flyers, and all sorts of awesome stuff? But you like it because it's awesome, not because nobody can defend against it yet? Yeah, that's it, we believe you... anyway, here's a list just for you! You'll love it because it's awesome and not because it's cheesy. Absolutely.
But seriously, this list has layers and layers of cheese.
This army was created on August 8th, 2012, and it is the cheesiest, most bullshit Grey Knights army yet. Basically, put at least two Henchmen Warbands on the field, give each HQ unit the Divination Primaris power (Prescience) which allows you to reroll all failed To Hit rolls, and place them on separate planes. Have them buff one plane apiece. Extra fun if your second power is the Scrier's Gaze (roll three Reserve dice and choose). It doesn't matter how much anti-air defense your opponent has, the gunships will wreck everyone's shit. This list isn't invincible, but the only possible way to beat it is to field an Imperial Guard army with as many Hydras as possible. That being said, you're still looking at getting around eighteen anti-aircraft vehicles just to counter six flyers.
Throw on the rerolls, Power of the Machine Spirit (extra target which can be different than the main), and Psychic Pilot's Fortitude (ignore Shaken and Stunned), and watch the carnage. Infantry get mowed down with Hurricane Bolters, Frag and Mindstrike Missiles, and Assault Cannons, and vehicles get blown up by Krak Missiles and Assault Cannons. With Psybolt Ammunition, not even a Land Raider can reliably soak 4 Twin-linked S7 rending shots without taking at least a glancing hit, if not a penetrating one. Even the Hurricane Bolters are 3 twin-linked S5 AP5 shots apiece (6 if within 12").
You have been warned: as of writing, fielding this army will result in your opponent leaping across the table, reaching down your throat, yanking out your intestines through your mouth, and strangling you with them. And you will deserve it.
I would not call it undefeatable, but not like Grey Knights need any more cheese....
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Uhhh, so you have two squads of 3 guardsmen on the board turn one. Alot lot of list I can come up with some way to kill that in one round, no matter how you try to hid them since you have no buildings to hid them in. If I can see you, I have enough shots to get you no matter the cover save. If your out of LoS, well thats what barrage is for.
Oh, and you auto loose to a drop pod list, or a list with say 3 pods, as whatever you have in there is going to kill those guys. And I can drop the pods where there is no hiding.
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Yeah, that wouldn't be too hard to just kill all the foot troops. Especially when you can flood the board with minis and deny their vehicles places to zoom to. And GK librarians, IIRC, can't take BRB powers. Only Inquisitors.
You need this to use my catalogue I guess. I hope it is working. Let me know if you see major issues. I found one, lord was listed at 60 not 65 base. So go ahead and grab the newer catalog here.
Well, there are those ten squishy meatbags in paper armour, and their three mechanical buddies, to do the job with. Pity they all die to frag missiles in short order.
I played a 5 flyer necron army. The only fucking reason I lost is because when necron flyers die, you don't lose the guys inside which, frankly, is complete bullshit.
I just realized I have no pictures of the various models I painted up for secret Santa Gifts.
I was looking for the Pedro I made for Tim and the Lamentor's Seth I painted for Nax... but no luck. Why didn't I take pictures before I sent them out!?
I played a 5 flyer necron army. The only fucking reason I lost is because when necron flyers die, you don't lose the guys inside which, frankly, is complete bullshit.
Did you have Hydras, or that AA terrain piece or something? That seems like an awful amount of only-hit-on-a-six targets to deal with.
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I played a 5 flyer necron army. The only fucking reason I lost is because when necron flyers die, you don't lose the guys inside which, frankly, is complete bullshit.
Did you have Hydras, or that AA terrain piece or something? That seems like an awful amount of only-hit-on-a-six targets to deal with.
I had a quad gun and 3 vendettas. I took down 4 of them before the game ended.
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I have a feeling if I ever play again, I'll hate flyers. I'm going to try to rely on my one Skytalon to help me thru. If that doesn't work, I'll redo the IG, and buy some Aegis defense lines and some Vendettas myself.
Actually I played something close to a guard version of that list in a 1500pt local tourny not too long ago. 5 flyers, about the same flying firepower but at fewer targets & slightly less durable, more infantry on the ground. Got 4th for two reasons.
#1, game two I played a mech guard army with 3 vendettas, I had to go first, so I got one turn of shooting before most of my flyers had to start jinking making them almost useless even with everything being twin linked. Deepstriking elysian vet squads were by far my most effective units that game. Might have tied or won it if I had been a little smarter on how to get some troops to objectives sooner, but that would probably just have gotten them gunned down instead of ignored.
#2, game one was vs flying circus deamons + three squads of flamers. So all my infantry was going to die rather quickly as it was low # foot guard vs flamers. The flyers did OK, but the flying MCs are more maneuverable for shots than I am even with a few vector dancer flyers. So between dodging the MCs and his troops coming in late, I could not kill his few troop squads to go for a tie. Also vector strikes at S6 will down av12 flyers, if he's a little lucky it will happen way faster than you would expect.
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I had a Disintegrator Ravager fire on a flying Daemon prince once. Scored like five, six hits. Brought it down to one wound.
Then a squad of kabalites unloaded on it, and only one hit. It wounded. Armor roll of 1. Needless to say I lucked the hell out.
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There we go, having the game system did the trick. I'll have a play around and see if I spot anything wonky.
@Mazzyx
Spotted the first wonky thing. Veterans of the Long War is spelt wrong ("Vetrans") for the Dark Apostle, Chaos Lord and Sorcerer. Also the Warpsmith can take it as many times as he wants where it should just be a check box.
You have Noise Marines being allowed to take one Blast Master (and only one) no matter what the size of the unit is. It should be 1 per 10, so 10+ is 1 Blastmaster and 20 is 2 Blastmasters.
Cultists are also broken. They throw up an error when you add Weapon Carriers no matter how big the unit is. The unit is also capped at 30 instead of 35. And for extra fun, the exchange of Autopistol for Autogun shouldn't be all or nothing, the squad can be half and half according to the codex.
Alright, I will get around to fixing it when I get the chance. The blastmaster thing was me running off 5th in my head. But as I said it isn't idiot proofed so if you can take something illegal just don't at the moment.
But some of these are easy fixes. I might get them done today but school is kind of dumping on me this week(one major group project and a midterm+starting a final for the 6 week course that is due next Saturday).
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Cool interview. My favorite picture of his is the Inquisitor, Ultramarine, IG guy and AM guy. It's very well done.
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Is in the book. The triple cannon is a S10 laser that gets D3 shots and has a chance to feedback and blow up the reactor if it fails to penetrate the target. Good job it's a 2SP super-heavy then. Damn thing is a beast, and the Typhon (same hull, but with a giant demolisher cannon instead) too.
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I don't see how it would, as it can only snapfire yes? Snapfiring precludes all blast weapons. But then again, I'm using Jink rules not "dive" rules.
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Debating how to kit out a flying demon prince for my first games.
Of course Maledictions/Blessings don't count as shooting attacks so you could use those with impunity.
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Whoops, "Dive" is for Flying Monsterous Creatures, "Jink" is for Flyers. Same effect, just different term. I know after a Jink save, you may only Snap Shoot. But was wondering if the rules were different for Bombing [as well as/or] being a Super Heavy Flyer.
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While there's no doubt that the embargo put a hit on their income, the fact that they owe their suppliers a shit ton of money (someone on dakka mentioned it in the 500,000+ range) and still aren't fulfilling orders - GW or not - there's really no grounds to claim GW is the devil here. They fucked up badly, and that's about it, and now they're trying to save their Banelegions line of models through a shell company.
http://1d4chan.org/wiki/The_Ultimate_Grey_Knight_Cheese_List
What's that? You like 6th Edition, and Grey Knights, and Flyers, and all sorts of awesome stuff? But you like it because it's awesome, not because nobody can defend against it yet? Yeah, that's it, we believe you... anyway, here's a list just for you! You'll love it because it's awesome and not because it's cheesy. Absolutely.
But seriously, this list has layers and layers of cheese.
omgwtf hax (2,000 points)
Inquisitor Coteaz (HQ) – 100 points
Librarian (HQ) – 150 points
Inquisitorial Henchmen Warband (Troops) – 34 points
3 Inquisitorial Servitors w/multi-meltas – 30 points
1 Warrior Acolyte – 4 points
2nd Inquisitorial Henchmen Warband (Troops) – 12 points
3 Warrior Acolytes – 12 points
3rd Inquisitorial Henchmen Warband (Troops) – 12 points
3 Warrior Acolytes – 12 points
4th Inquisitorial Henchmen Warband (Troops) – 12 points
3 Warrior Acolytes – 12 points
Now here come the particularly gooey bits:
Stormraven Gunship (Fast Attack) w/Typhoon Missile Launcher, Hurricane Bolters, and Psybolt Ammunition – 280 points
2nd Stormraven Gunship (Fast Attack) w/Typhoon Missile Launcher, Hurricane Bolters, and Psybolt Ammunition – 280 points
3rd Stormraven Gunship (Fast Attack) w/Typhoon Missile Launcher, Hurricane Bolters, and Psybolt Ammunition – 280 points
4th Stormraven Gunship (Fast Attack) w/Typhoon Missile Launcher, Hurricane Bolters, and Psybolt Ammunition – 280 points
5th Stormraven Gunship (Fast Attack) w/Typhoon Missile Launcher, Hurricane Bolters, and Psybolt Ammunition – 280 points
6th Stormraven Gunship (Fast Attack) w/Typhoon Missile Launcher, Hurricane Bolters, and Psybolt Ammunition – 280 points
2,000 POINTS TOTAL
This army was created on August 8th, 2012, and it is the cheesiest, most bullshit Grey Knights army yet. Basically, put at least two Henchmen Warbands on the field, give each HQ unit the Divination Primaris power (Prescience) which allows you to reroll all failed To Hit rolls, and place them on separate planes. Have them buff one plane apiece. Extra fun if your second power is the Scrier's Gaze (roll three Reserve dice and choose). It doesn't matter how much anti-air defense your opponent has, the gunships will wreck everyone's shit. This list isn't invincible, but the only possible way to beat it is to field an Imperial Guard army with as many Hydras as possible. That being said, you're still looking at getting around eighteen anti-aircraft vehicles just to counter six flyers.
Throw on the rerolls, Power of the Machine Spirit (extra target which can be different than the main), and Psychic Pilot's Fortitude (ignore Shaken and Stunned), and watch the carnage. Infantry get mowed down with Hurricane Bolters, Frag and Mindstrike Missiles, and Assault Cannons, and vehicles get blown up by Krak Missiles and Assault Cannons. With Psybolt Ammunition, not even a Land Raider can reliably soak 4 Twin-linked S7 rending shots without taking at least a glancing hit, if not a penetrating one. Even the Hurricane Bolters are 3 twin-linked S5 AP5 shots apiece (6 if within 12").
You have been warned: as of writing, fielding this army will result in your opponent leaping across the table, reaching down your throat, yanking out your intestines through your mouth, and strangling you with them. And you will deserve it.
I would not call it undefeatable, but not like Grey Knights need any more cheese....
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Oh, and you auto loose to a drop pod list, or a list with say 3 pods, as whatever you have in there is going to kill those guys. And I can drop the pods where there is no hiding.
Thanks for these.
Playing with my Slaaneshi list, will post some stuff later for critiques
Well, there are those ten squishy meatbags in paper armour, and their three mechanical buddies, to do the job with. Pity they all die to frag missiles in short order.
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I played a 5 flyer necron army. The only fucking reason I lost is because when necron flyers die, you don't lose the guys inside which, frankly, is complete bullshit.
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I was looking for the Pedro I made for Tim and the Lamentor's Seth I painted for Nax... but no luck. Why didn't I take pictures before I sent them out!?
Agreed.
Sorry GW, but you've been outdone by your subsidiary on pretty much every level now.
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Did you have Hydras, or that AA terrain piece or something? That seems like an awful amount of only-hit-on-a-six targets to deal with.
Even price gouging!
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I had a quad gun and 3 vendettas. I took down 4 of them before the game ended.
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#1, game two I played a mech guard army with 3 vendettas, I had to go first, so I got one turn of shooting before most of my flyers had to start jinking making them almost useless even with everything being twin linked. Deepstriking elysian vet squads were by far my most effective units that game. Might have tied or won it if I had been a little smarter on how to get some troops to objectives sooner, but that would probably just have gotten them gunned down instead of ignored.
#2, game one was vs flying circus deamons + three squads of flamers. So all my infantry was going to die rather quickly as it was low # foot guard vs flamers. The flyers did OK, but the flying MCs are more maneuverable for shots than I am even with a few vector dancer flyers. So between dodging the MCs and his troops coming in late, I could not kill his few troop squads to go for a tie. Also vector strikes at S6 will down av12 flyers, if he's a little lucky it will happen way faster than you would expect.
Then a squad of kabalites unloaded on it, and only one hit. It wounded. Armor roll of 1. Needless to say I lucked the hell out.