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[25 years of 真・女神転生/Persona] SMTIV out! Gaians wanted, see Lucy for details.

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    Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    The new opening is leagues ahead of the old one, no need to change it.

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    cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    It is a neat opening, but I love the original's music.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kATVGVLqfo8

    Admittedly most if not all the clips are from the game, that might be why it's gone.

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    DrezDrez Registered User regular
    Oh and another issue I had with Strange Journey. I only went one route, but as far as I know, there were three endings:

    Bad Ending, Bad Ending, and Bad Ending.

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    heenatoheenato Alice Leywind Registered User regular
    Drez wrote: »
    Oh and another issue I had with Strange Journey. I only went one route, but as far as I know, there were three endings:

    Bad Ending, Bad Ending, and Bad Ending.
    Welcome to shin megami tensei.

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    Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    Eh, Nocturne and most of the Persona games have good endings.

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    ErlecErlec Registered User regular
    I am currently playing Devil survivor and there's good things and bad things about it:

    Good:
    Interesting system with death clocks giving the characters more of a urgent need for the characters
    Overall combat is good with mixture of different skills in a tactical map and close encounters - like fft and dragon quest in one!
    ..saves fast?

    Bad:
    Bit easier stat system then other games
    Horrible escort missions. Just horrible.
    Old fashioned exploring with menus!
    Very repetitive combat,
    Loads of grinding, grind that demon baby

    After playing a bit yesterday I got stuck on a escort mission (it was the one for the 4h character) After trying it four times. Ai can really be dense, and since there are loads of escort missions it isn't really fun. Good news though, I got past and now I have bad-ass king frost. He-ho!

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    cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    Both SMT 1 & 2 do as well.

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    heenatoheenato Alice Leywind Registered User regular
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Both SMT 1 & 2 do as well.
    Really? If I recall, SMT 1's endings were law,chaos, and "Hey. You know how the apocalypse just happened a SECOND time basically...well...good luck with that!"

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    Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited December 2012
    1's good ending is sort of like SJ's best ending. Things still went to shit.

    2's good ending I'll give you. Things were shit and got a bit less shit with the neutral ending.

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    Twenty SidedTwenty Sided Registered User regular
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    Funny, my impression of the protagonist is that, yes, he's a dork. But he's an unusually unassuming badass alpha-male sort of dork. Ergo, why the girls keep hanging off of him and why all these adults choose to confide in him.

    I'm not sure this is a thing that exists.

    He's a socially awkward Mary Sue! Does everything well. Balances a rich and varied social life with good grades, part-time jobs and dealing with magic murder shit. Also: His soul is a metaphorical sea of demons.

    Huuurrrm. Yeah, I'm not sure this is a thing that exists.

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    cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    So you want Soul Hackers fan art? Of course you do!

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    Just forget about me.

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    GilderGilder Aw snap Macaroni PartyRegistered User regular
    Ugggggggh the culture festival in P4 is the worst thing. The worst thing. All of it is dreadful, and even worse is that it happens right after the tests so you haven't been able to take advantage of the S. Link boosts you just got from that. You're also probably starting Fortune at this point, which means all the points get wasted.

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    cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    Please tell me I can go fight Elizabeth once I give Ryoji his stupid choice.

    Ooh, Hamaon, pretty scary huh.

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    PMAversPMAvers Registered User regular
    Oh my god.
    (P4G Class Trip)
    "Drunk" Rise is best Rise. Why can't you be drunk all the time?

    Like Roxy. wonk.

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    Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
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    If only Soul Hackers was as good as this.

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    GilderGilder Aw snap Macaroni PartyRegistered User regular
    Someone please remind me about something with the last months of P4
    What's up with social links, there's a bunch you can no longer do right? It's 11/1 now and Chie just hit Rank 9. I thought I remembered that you can only really do school links in the last months? Or was it just teammates? I just need to know if I should be focusing on maxing out the clubs, Moon, Temperance, and Hanged right now. They're 8, 6, 6, 6, 4 if I remember right. They can all level up next session as well. I'm not going to mention nighttime links because I'm focusing on Tower every night I can as I've already maxed Devil and the only stat not 5 is diligence so any nights I don't tutor I just talk to someone or go to the shrine. Should I do those remaining school/daytime links, or should I focus on getting Chie, Yosuke, and Yukiko to rank 10 since they're the closest before I do the next dungeon because I can do the others well into next month? I remember the next boss is kind of a jerk and having teammates with no weaknesses helps.

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    DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    edited December 2012
    Gilder wrote: »
    Someone please remind me about something with the last months of P4
    What's up with social links, there's a bunch you can no longer do right? It's 11/1 now and Chie just hit Rank 9. I thought I remembered that you can only really do school links in the last months? Or was it just teammates? I just need to know if I should be focusing on maxing out the clubs, Moon, Temperance, and Hanged right now. They're 8, 6, 6, 6, 4 if I remember right. They can all level up next session as well. I'm not going to mention nighttime links because I'm focusing on Tower every night I can as I've already maxed Devil and the only stat not 5 is diligence so any nights I don't tutor I just talk to someone or go to the shrine. Should I do those remaining school/daytime links, or should I focus on getting Chie, Yosuke, and Yukiko to rank 10 since they're the closest before I do the next dungeon because I can do the others well into next month? I remember the next boss is kind of a jerk and having teammates with no weaknesses helps.

    This is for P4 vanilla (from the strategy guide). In P4 Golden you get like an additional month of time (January) to work on your social links beyond what vanilla offers.
    You've got a pretty decent amount of opportunity to get any given S.Link that you're pretty far along on in the last two months, aside from the ones that end early. You miss out on some Strength, if I recall, due to a lot of bad weather, but everything else is relatively close to normal.

    Final S.Link opportunities

    Hierophant - 11/2
    Justice - 11/3
    Lovers - 12/18
    Chariot - 12/19
    Priestess - 12/20
    Magician - 12/21
    Fortune - 12/21 (? The guide doesn't print a final opportunity for this one)
    Tower - 12/22
    Emperor - 12/22
    Strength - 12/22
    Hanged Man - 12/22
    Moon - 12/22
    Sun - 12/22
    Temperance - 12/23
    Death - 12/23
    Devil - 12/23
    Hermit - 12/24

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    PrjctD_CaptainPrjctD_Captain iFizzRegistered User regular
    I belevie for fortune you have to hang out with them at every possible chance to even come close to maxing it.

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    GilderGilder Aw snap Macaroni PartyRegistered User regular
    Gilder wrote: »
    Someone please remind me about something with the last months of P4
    What's up with social links, there's a bunch you can no longer do right? It's 11/1 now and Chie just hit Rank 9. I thought I remembered that you can only really do school links in the last months? Or was it just teammates? I just need to know if I should be focusing on maxing out the clubs, Moon, Temperance, and Hanged right now. They're 8, 6, 6, 6, 4 if I remember right. They can all level up next session as well. I'm not going to mention nighttime links because I'm focusing on Tower every night I can as I've already maxed Devil and the only stat not 5 is diligence so any nights I don't tutor I just talk to someone or go to the shrine. Should I do those remaining school/daytime links, or should I focus on getting Chie, Yosuke, and Yukiko to rank 10 since they're the closest before I do the next dungeon because I can do the others well into next month? I remember the next boss is kind of a jerk and having teammates with no weaknesses helps.

    This is for P4 vanilla (from the strategy guide). In P4 Golden you get like an additional month of time (January) to work on your social links beyond what vanilla offers.
    Final S.Link opportunities

    Hierophant - 11/2
    Justice - 11/3
    Lovers - 12/18
    Chariot - 12/19
    Priestess - 12/20
    Magician - 12/21
    Tower - 12/22
    Emperor - 12/22
    Strength - 12/22
    Hanged Man - 12/22
    Moon - 12/22
    Sun - 12/22
    Temperance - 12/23
    Death - 12/23
    Devil - 12/23
    Hermit - 12/24

    Wait, those are all December. Is that a misprint or something, because that's pretty conflicting when I see those and I'm told I have January. Or are those the last Vanilla dates?

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    DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    edited December 2012
    Gilder wrote: »
    Gilder wrote: »
    Someone please remind me about something with the last months of P4
    What's up with social links, there's a bunch you can no longer do right? It's 11/1 now and Chie just hit Rank 9. I thought I remembered that you can only really do school links in the last months? Or was it just teammates? I just need to know if I should be focusing on maxing out the clubs, Moon, Temperance, and Hanged right now. They're 8, 6, 6, 6, 4 if I remember right. They can all level up next session as well. I'm not going to mention nighttime links because I'm focusing on Tower every night I can as I've already maxed Devil and the only stat not 5 is diligence so any nights I don't tutor I just talk to someone or go to the shrine. Should I do those remaining school/daytime links, or should I focus on getting Chie, Yosuke, and Yukiko to rank 10 since they're the closest before I do the next dungeon because I can do the others well into next month? I remember the next boss is kind of a jerk and having teammates with no weaknesses helps.

    This is for P4 vanilla (from the strategy guide). In P4 Golden you get like an additional month of time (January) to work on your social links beyond what vanilla offers.
    Final S.Link opportunities

    Hierophant - 11/2
    Justice - 11/3
    Lovers - 12/18
    Chariot - 12/19
    Priestess - 12/20
    Magician - 12/21
    Tower - 12/22
    Emperor - 12/22
    Strength - 12/22
    Hanged Man - 12/22
    Moon - 12/22
    Sun - 12/22
    Temperance - 12/23
    Death - 12/23
    Devil - 12/23
    Hermit - 12/24

    Wait, those are all December. Is that a misprint or something, because that's pretty conflicting when I see those and I'm told I have January. Or are those the last Vanilla dates?

    As the first sentence of my post states, this is P4 vanilla dates. The final day for S.Links in P4 Golden is February 5.

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    RaziaRazia Sword and Shield Registered User regular
    God dammit, Yumi. Max S. Link spoilers.
    The way her confession plays out.... It really makes me feel like a dick for walking out.

    Sorry, Yumi, but I'm aiming for a certain lady that dresses like a dude.

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    DonnictonDonnicton Registered User regular
    Razia wrote: »
    God dammit, Yumi. Max S. Link spoilers.
    The way her confession plays out.... It really makes me feel like a dick for walking out.

    Sorry, Yumi, but I'm aiming for a certain lady that dresses like a dude.

    Kanji?

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    RaziaRazia Sword and Shield Registered User regular
    ...Kanji is a lady that dresses like a dude?

    But for real, if Kanji was available I'd totally go for it.

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    GilderGilder Aw snap Macaroni PartyRegistered User regular
    edited December 2012
    Gilder wrote: »
    Gilder wrote: »
    Someone please remind me about something with the last months of P4
    What's up with social links, there's a bunch you can no longer do right? It's 11/1 now and Chie just hit Rank 9. I thought I remembered that you can only really do school links in the last months? Or was it just teammates? I just need to know if I should be focusing on maxing out the clubs, Moon, Temperance, and Hanged right now. They're 8, 6, 6, 6, 4 if I remember right. They can all level up next session as well. I'm not going to mention nighttime links because I'm focusing on Tower every night I can as I've already maxed Devil and the only stat not 5 is diligence so any nights I don't tutor I just talk to someone or go to the shrine. Should I do those remaining school/daytime links, or should I focus on getting Chie, Yosuke, and Yukiko to rank 10 since they're the closest before I do the next dungeon because I can do the others well into next month? I remember the next boss is kind of a jerk and having teammates with no weaknesses helps.

    This is for P4 vanilla (from the strategy guide). In P4 Golden you get like an additional month of time (January) to work on your social links beyond what vanilla offers.
    Final S.Link opportunities

    Hierophant - 11/2
    Justice - 11/3
    Lovers - 12/18
    Chariot - 12/19
    Priestess - 12/20
    Magician - 12/21
    Tower - 12/22
    Emperor - 12/22
    Strength - 12/22
    Hanged Man - 12/22
    Moon - 12/22
    Sun - 12/22
    Temperance - 12/23
    Death - 12/23
    Devil - 12/23
    Hermit - 12/24

    Wait, those are all December. Is that a misprint or something, because that's pretty conflicting when I see those and I'm told I have January. Or are those the last Vanilla dates?

    As the first sentence of my post states, this is P4 vanilla dates.

    Oh, I thought the first sentence was in regards to my whole post in a general, as in everything I said was in regards to P4 Vanilla. Well this just changes everything.
    Razia wrote: »
    God dammit, Yumi. Max S. Link spoilers.
    The way her confession plays out.... It really makes me feel like a dick for walking out.

    Sorry, Yumi, but I'm aiming for a certain lady that dresses like a dude.

    You've made sure to do the flags for that right? Because that character you want and Ai I think are the only two who have flags for relationships before the rank you actually choose them, and I think Ai's link tries to trick you by giving you the prompt and everything.

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    chocoboliciouschocobolicious Registered User regular
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    Funny, my impression of the protagonist is that, yes, he's a dork. But he's an unusually unassuming badass alpha-male sort of dork. Ergo, why the girls keep hanging off of him and why all these adults choose to confide in him.

    I'm not sure this is a thing that exists.

    He's a socially awkward Mary Sue! Does everything well. Balances a rich and varied social life with good grades, part-time jobs and dealing with magic murder shit. Also: His soul is a metaphorical sea of demons.

    Huuurrrm. Yeah, I'm not sure this is a thing that exists.

    There is literally nothing he does in the game or anime that is above average in execution. I mean really, did you just not go to highschool? Did you never notice there are plenty of popular kids who do all this? 4.3 GPA, work, do band, go to various volunteer things, have significant others, etc, etc?

    I think someone just had a cripplingly terrible highschool life and hates Yu because of it. :(

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    BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    The only one that made me feel like a dick for not starting the romance path was Rise's. I really think that could have been handled better.

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    cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    Just took my first shot at Lizzie.

    [Attack for ~90 damage]
    -Two attacks, 900+ each
    [saved by Idol]
    [Armageddon]
    [Diarahan, Megidolaon - 9999]
    Dead.

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    BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    If she does the 9999, you're doing something wrong.

    Specifically, in this case, you used Armageddon.

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    heenatoheenato Alice Leywind Registered User regular
    Isn't it actually the diarahan that signifies he did something wrong? Cause I thought she used megidolaon in her rotation. Or was it something else That just did alot of damage?

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    The AnonymousThe Anonymous Uh, uh, uhhhhhh... Uh, uh.Registered User regular
    edited December 2012
    Yeah, Armageddon triggers her "berserk mode" where she casts Diarahan->Megidolaon every round. Megidolaon is a normal part of the rotation though, and you have to use Infinity to survive it.

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    NintenNinten Registered User regular
    Is it worth fighting Liz?

    Also, found this on SMTG, this comment was actually posted under the Soul Hackers trailer.

    "Suprisingly 3Ds accually gets a good game for once. Because Shin Megami made it. The same company that made persona"

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    FrozenzenFrozenzen Registered User regular
    I wish atlus would pick one handheld and go for that.

    But once soul hackers and EO4 are out I can justify importing an american 3ds and those games I guess.

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    cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    That was just a test run at her, and the strategy I read entailed hitting her with Armageddon, surviving with Idol, then hitting her again. Didn't expect her standard attack to be so brutal though.

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    mere_immortalmere_immortal So tasty!Registered User regular
    Welp, bit the bullet on DDS 1+2 as well as Nocture, now I just need a working PS2, to ebay!

    Do PS3 component cables work with PS2?

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    DonnictonDonnicton Registered User regular
    P4G made #6 on Brody Brock Brodgman's "10 Chillest Bro Videogames of the Year".

    http://www.dorkly.com/article/47671/the-10-chillest-bro-videogames-of-the-year
    shin megami tensei: persona 4 was released for the ps2 – maybe the most bombass of all playstations (other than hte ps3) – way back in 2008, and it has held up spectacularly. its still da bomb! but the makers decided to release an expanded version for the Vita – and gotdamn, was it worth the effin wait. the game is vast, beautiful, and perhaps most excitedly, incredibly engaging. the story sucks you in and does NOT let you go (much like Max Payne starring the guy from Boogie Nights with the huge dong). there are some slick HD graphics and the mechanics are vastly more user-friendly than its ps2 counterpart. but really, the greatest thing about this game is the small details – like sound and voice acting – are just as stellar as the bigger parts of the game. overall, a fantastic package that will keep you busy for weeks on end, and a must buy.

    Bros:

    effin gorgeous
    good as shit graphics
    hella good story

    Bcons:

    don’t have time to play it again!
    no mark wahlburg

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    DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited December 2012
    My interpretation of Kanji is that...

    (fairly large spoilers)
    He's not homosexual, but he questions his own sexuality for a couple of reasons: (1) his interests don't align with society's definition of masculinity - which is reinforced with the taunting and bullying e received in younger years, and (2) he finds himself attracted to Naoto while under the assumption Naoto is male. This leads to the hidden feelings he has that emerge in the Bathhouse dungeon. He is relieved when he learns that Naoto is a girl and you make him feel more comfortable with his "feminine" hobbies (sewing/crafting) over the course of his S.Link.

    Is my interpretation off the mark? I haven't finished his S.Link yet.

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    DrezDrez Registered User regular
    I can't believe my P4G save is at 85 hours already.

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    NintenNinten Registered User regular
    Welp, bit the bullet on DDS 1+2 as well as Nocture, now I just need a working PS2, to ebay!

    Fellow Devil Buster, you made a wise choice!

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    ArtereisArtereis Registered User regular
    Drez wrote: »
    My interpretation of Kanji is that...

    (fairly large spoilers)
    He's not homosexual, but he questions his own sexuality for a couple of reasons: (1) his interests don't align with society's definition of masculinity - which is reinforced with the taunting and bullying e received in younger years, and (2) he finds himself attracted to Naoto while under the assumption Naoto is male. This leads to the hidden feelings he has that emerge in the Bathhouse dungeon. He is relieved when he learns that Naoto is a girl and you make him feel more comfortable with his "feminine" hobbies (sewing/crafting) over the course of his S.Link.

    Is my interpretation off the mark? I haven't finished his S.Link yet.

    That's pretty much exactly it. The whole point of a character's dungeon is
    to make them accept the parts of their personality they're uncomfortable with.
    Kanji's development is handled really well, which made the few reviews by people who just didn't understand what the TV world is actually doing difficult to read.

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    RainbowDespairRainbowDespair Registered User regular
    Drez wrote: »
    My interpretation of Kanji is that...

    (fairly large spoilers)
    He's not homosexual, but he questions his own sexuality for a couple of reasons: (1) his interests don't align with society's definition of masculinity - which is reinforced with the taunting and bullying e received in younger years, and (2) he finds himself attracted to Naoto while under the assumption Naoto is male. This leads to the hidden feelings he has that emerge in the Bathhouse dungeon. He is relieved when he learns that Naoto is a girl and you make him feel more comfortable with his "feminine" hobbies (sewing/crafting) over the course of his S.Link.

    Is my interpretation off the mark? I haven't finished his S.Link yet.

    That was my interpretation as well.

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