I was just able to buy the Master efficiency on one of my Jagers without completely Eliting the three variants first.
Anyone else see this before?
To get Master, you have to Elite three variants of the same WEIGHT CLASS. It's not like Basic-ing to get to Elite.
If you have two Elite Catapults and one Elite Dragon, you can master them
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NipsHe/HimLuxuriating in existential crisis.Registered Userregular
Wow, that's...man, what?
Add that to the pile of weird design decisions in this game. The fact that Elite>Master unlocks are different from Basic>Elite unlocks makes no frigging sense.
Well that way if you only like one variant of a chassis you only have to basic them and elite a couple other chassis you do like. As soon as you basic out a chassis you can get rid of unwanted variants (though that's a separate debate)
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It doesn't even matter. No matter what, you need to get three variants and basic them out whenever a new mech drops. The only savings is that you can skip eliting those extra variants if you've already done it for a weight class and you only care about one.
You can do, for example, master in heavies (according to the text) if you elite out two DRGs and a CPLT, but you'd still have had to have basiced out 3 DRGs and 3 CPLTs to get to that point.
I was playing with Pill and he was kicking ass in his PPC armed SDR-5D. Being that we were playing conquest, I decided to jump in my 5D and join him. Having seen him succeed with his build, I ask for tips.
He says:
"Remove all but one Jump Jet. Also all the armor off the left arm and the head. The left arm is useless and the head will never get shot."
I take his advice and build something similar.
The very next match, I get one shotted by a PPC boat... in the head.
I was so glad to have been a part of that match.
(A laughing at my now-dead teammate from the other side of the map part.)
It doesn't even matter. No matter what, you need to get three variants and basic them out whenever a new mech drops. The only savings is that you can skip eliting those extra variants if you've already done it for a weight class and you only care about one.
You can do, for example, master in heavies (according to the text) if you elite out two DRGs and a CPLT, but you'd still have had to have basiced out 3 DRGs and 3 CPLTs to get to that point.
Yeah, but skipping earning 43,000 skill points is nothing to scoff at
Well that wasn't fun at all... frozen city, we are all heavies/mediums... and maybe? an assault... enemy team. Five fucking lights, two assaults and maybe one medium... we couldn't even kill one of the lights... then their assaults show up and finish us all off.
So he's got a hexaPPC Stalker. So do lots of other people. I don't get the big deal? No reflection on whether he's good at the game or bad at it. One could wish he'd be more creative, but one can't blame him for using what works, especially if he's trying to make a lot of cash.
This Jenner pilot was a lot of fun to watch. Down to 2v2, he neutered two Atlases who were hellbent on capping. Lots of surgical weapon removal via medium laser.
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A: We have some plans in the works to limit the amount of tonnage on the battlefield and encourage balance through rewarding will structured teams.
So he's got a hexaPPC Stalker. So do lots of other people. I don't get the big deal? No reflection on whether he's good at the game or bad at it. One could wish he'd be more creative, but one can't blame him for using what works, especially if he's trying to make a lot of cash.
LBXs are, seriously, terribad. I mean, come on. The idea is to kill mechs, not turn off their PPCs. Jagerbombs are so much better than Kamblajagers.
You seem to be missing the point of the LBX.
Let me explain it:
1.)KA
2.)BLAM
3.)!!!!
You left out Step 4
...giggle when people think you just cored them with AC20s
EDIT - seriously...this happened to me a few matches ago. Little Blackjack rounded a corner and ate 20 pellets to his CT a couple times, crumpled, and griped about all the AC20s
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So he's got a hexaPPC Stalker. So do lots of other people. I don't get the big deal? No reflection on whether he's good at the game or bad at it. One could wish he'd be more creative, but one can't blame him for using what works, especially if he's trying to make a lot of cash.
I'm kinda drunk but I'm hoping this is satire...
I may hate the ever-loving shit out of the build, but if the guy is grinding for money or XP, I really can't hold it against him. And as we all know well, my hatred for the unbalanced is on par with that of Ye Olde Gods. It seriously really is a failure of the metagame that it's a reasonable build; people who would suicide-run mechs before they fixed that grinding oversight weren't being the most sporting, but they were simply exercising the greatest effort-to-profit routine available in the game.
Alpha-strike balance can't come fast enough for my tastes, because I remember when 4-5 PPCs in an Awesome was asking for 30 seconds of shutdown and that's exactly the sort of the thing we need right now.
So he's got a hexaPPC Stalker. So do lots of other people. I don't get the big deal? No reflection on whether he's good at the game or bad at it. One could wish he'd be more creative, but one can't blame him for using what works, especially if he's trying to make a lot of cash.
I'm kinda drunk but I'm hoping this is satire...
I may hate the ever-loving shit out of the build, but if the guy is grinding for money or XP, I really can't hold it against him. And as we all know well, my hatred for the unbalanced is on par with that of Ye Olde Gods. It seriously really is a failure of the metagame that it's a reasonable build; people who would suicide-run mechs before they fixed that grinding oversight weren't being the most sporting, but they were simply exercising the greatest effort-to-profit routine available in the game.
Alpha-strike balance can't come fast enough for my tastes, because I remember when 4-5 PPCs in an Awesome was asking for 30 seconds of shutdown and that's exactly the sort of the thing we need right now.
No...you use those builds, you are just bad. Full stop. There is no excuse for using those kind of builds.
So he's got a hexaPPC Stalker. So do lots of other people. I don't get the big deal? No reflection on whether he's good at the game or bad at it. One could wish he'd be more creative, but one can't blame him for using what works, especially if he's trying to make a lot of cash.
I'm kinda drunk but I'm hoping this is satire...
I may hate the ever-loving shit out of the build, but if the guy is grinding for money or XP, I really can't hold it against him. And as we all know well, my hatred for the unbalanced is on par with that of Ye Olde Gods. It seriously really is a failure of the metagame that it's a reasonable build; people who would suicide-run mechs before they fixed that grinding oversight weren't being the most sporting, but they were simply exercising the greatest effort-to-profit routine available in the game.
Alpha-strike balance can't come fast enough for my tastes, because I remember when 4-5 PPCs in an Awesome was asking for 30 seconds of shutdown and that's exactly the sort of the thing we need right now.
No...you use those builds, you are just bad. Full stop. There is no excuse for using those kind of builds.
Thanks for reminded me that playing a game how I want to play it makes me a bad person.
You are such a goose.
Edit: Just to expound on this a little, since you might not understand: I don't play a 6 PPC stalker, but if I thought it was an interesting build, I would USE it, and to hell with you or anyone else for calling me "bad at the game" or "a bad person" because of it. Call it a cheese build. Call it unbalanced because of it's pin-point alpha( admittedly with a huge drawback of a refire rate I couldn't POSSIBLY keep up with). But the minute you insinuate I'm a bad person for using a perfectly viable, non TOS breaking build, you can go right back to the vat, as far as I'm concerned.
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Yeah, I don't want to use such a build as I don't think I'd find it fun but its definitely not because I don't want to be seen as bad by people on the Internet. That is a very low priority for me.
LBXs aren't great, that's for damn sure, but I've used an LBX Jager and what can I say, it's FUN. I regularly do 750+ damage and get kills with it. sure, if You want to min-max they are not good. So why don't you go play a hexaPPC stalker?
Digging on the 2PPC, 1 Gauss, 2 MLAS K2 build. Need to play conservatively and support your team, as well as manage your heat. 3 Tons of ammo seems fairly sufficient, might be able to drop one ton for an extra DHS, but I usually end a match with about 3-7 gauss rounds left.
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I was just able to buy the Master efficiency on one of my Jagers without completely Eliting the three variants first.
Anyone else see this before?
Nope. Never been a canon Quickdraw with a ballistic weapon that didn't use Level 3 rules.
To get Master, you have to Elite three variants of the same WEIGHT CLASS. It's not like Basic-ing to get to Elite.
If you have two Elite Catapults and one Elite Dragon, you can master them
Add that to the pile of weird design decisions in this game. The fact that Elite>Master unlocks are different from Basic>Elite unlocks makes no frigging sense.
You can do, for example, master in heavies (according to the text) if you elite out two DRGs and a CPLT, but you'd still have had to have basiced out 3 DRGs and 3 CPLTs to get to that point.
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I was so glad to have been a part of that match.
(A laughing at my now-dead teammate from the other side of the map part.)
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Yeah, but skipping earning 43,000 skill points is nothing to scoff at
We actually saw that same guy and build in a game tonight. He proffered "Farming, what can you do?" as an insufficient apology.
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This Jenner pilot was a lot of fun to watch. Down to 2v2, he neutered two Atlases who were hellbent on capping. Lots of surgical weapon removal via medium laser.
http://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/122703-ask-the-devs-40-answered/page__pid__2452822
Awesome :>
I'm kinda drunk but I'm hoping this is satire...
Let me explain it:
1.)KA
2.)BLAM
3.)!!!!
You left out Step 4
...giggle when people think you just cored them with AC20s
EDIT - seriously...this happened to me a few matches ago. Little Blackjack rounded a corner and ate 20 pellets to his CT a couple times, crumpled, and griped about all the AC20s
I may hate the ever-loving shit out of the build, but if the guy is grinding for money or XP, I really can't hold it against him. And as we all know well, my hatred for the unbalanced is on par with that of Ye Olde Gods. It seriously really is a failure of the metagame that it's a reasonable build; people who would suicide-run mechs before they fixed that grinding oversight weren't being the most sporting, but they were simply exercising the greatest effort-to-profit routine available in the game.
Alpha-strike balance can't come fast enough for my tastes, because I remember when 4-5 PPCs in an Awesome was asking for 30 seconds of shutdown and that's exactly the sort of the thing we need right now.
Step 4, kill a guy. Which LBXs don't do.
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Yeah, when they get in a penalty for extreme overheating besides just shutting down, balance will start getting really nice.
Well, until "SUPRISE, CLAN TECH".
No...you use those builds, you are just bad. Full stop. There is no excuse for using those kind of builds.
Also, the fact that that build is a thing is bogus.
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(Also LB10X is like one of the best ballistics for hunting lights, if you're in something that moves more than 80kph. For real.)
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Seems unlikely for awhile. Right now there are four heavy Heroes plus one champion
Thanks for reminded me that playing a game how I want to play it makes me a bad person.
You are such a goose.
Edit: Just to expound on this a little, since you might not understand: I don't play a 6 PPC stalker, but if I thought it was an interesting build, I would USE it, and to hell with you or anyone else for calling me "bad at the game" or "a bad person" because of it. Call it a cheese build. Call it unbalanced because of it's pin-point alpha( admittedly with a huge drawback of a refire rate I couldn't POSSIBLY keep up with). But the minute you insinuate I'm a bad person for using a perfectly viable, non TOS breaking build, you can go right back to the vat, as far as I'm concerned.
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