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eyes wide shut fucking sucks
just a boring, shitty movie that everyone goes on about because kubrick
The Ring messed me up for a good few days after I watched it and pretty much reset my taste in horror movies from that point on.
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I think it's more intense than The Ring, but only if you're the sort who really buys into it's style, which for many people was not the case.
The Ring is a much more well-crafted flick as a whole.
But lately I've been pleasantly surprised with movies like The Happening and the first couple of the Paranormal Activity movies
It's a meta look at the slash genre that takes it to a pretty crazy extreme.
It alternates between being funny and horrifying, and is generally pretty brilliant.
I've only seen the American remake of the Grudge, which I enjoyed enough but again not really scary. And I saw a similar kind of thing called Dark Water which also kind of passed me by. I guess that kind of horror doesn't click with me.
Aliens, nature, and people? All more than capable of scaring me.
I ain't 100% sure where my disconnect is.
I'm kind of sick of horror movies in general that end with a "and nobody survived" twist, ie, it was all for naught, you just watched a bunch of people suffer and die for no real reason. It's a staple of horror films, it would be more shocking if the horror was defeated forever. Exceptions are if you give the horror a middle finger and die fighting.
Another element of horror I can't stand is when a wise person is brought in or the "rules" are figured out, then it becomes a predictable matter of exorcism, ritual, or something abstract and disconnected from how humans experience fear and horror in the real world. I kind of realise that this clashes with my desire to see resolution from horror films, rather than the open "the killer lives" twist, but I feel like there's a middle ground. I hated the Conjuring for this reason, there was no sense of the unknown, just a checklist to tick off.
I like my horror otherworldly and with alien intent. I loved The Ring for how they went
I'm also weird in that I usually enjoy American remakes better than foreign originals, even when I saw and enjoyed the foreign version first. I felt like the American Quarantine was superior to the Spanish in pretty much every way, I enjoyed the American ring and grudge too, but I also appreciated their originals.
I have an affinity for roller coaster or "guided tour" kind of horror films too, like Grave Encounters (do not watch the sequel)
Also I enjoyed the Evil Dead remake better than the original. Heresy yes, but I just did, it felt like it had more to say and said it better. It was a film that kept getting better and had a solid ending. Had surprisingly great female characters too
Guessing that is mostly because the half you listed as scary is at least possible in real life and the supernatural stuff is less so. I mean, aliens are fictional constructs in these movies, but as living things, they have an element of plausibility that goats or demons don't have
Silent hill is an awful movie that I love, mainly for its art, it's story tried its darnedest to ruin it for me tho. There's a place for "beautiful" horror with fantastic imagery that unnerves rather than scares outright, like The Cell.
I'm still waiting for a proper rendition of Event Horizon, it was so terrifying in concept but it's execution isn't super great.
But generally traditional horror movies don't get to me very often, besides the odd jump scare. You want to show me a "real" horror story, put on The Day After or Threads.
When something spooky happens, my reaction is usually somewhere along the lines of, "Oh! That was neat."
It's the same thing with comedies. Never really a laugh, usually just a, "Mm. Yes, that was funny."
That's the depth of my reaction to most media.
A little nod and a brief internal acknowledgement that something interesting has indeed happened.
Satans..... hints.....
You're so counter-culture, shitting on Kubrick. Man I wish I were as cool as you.
This only happens very occasionally, often accidentally, in horror films. Jump scares, demon faces, don't do anything for me. But a face outside the window, barely visible, or like the slow realisation that something horrifying has been sitting in the shot, waiting for you to notice it, that gets me.
I hate when camera angles, cuts, music cues, or such, artificially build up to a jump. To me that's the director scaring me, when I want them to facilitate my imagination so that I feel like I'm in the film, like I'm the character. I hate when shots are too purposeful and obvious and played for the audience not the character, it's clumsy. Like having the camera show us something the character is facing away from, or having lots of sudden cuts
I think that's why found footage had such a boost initially, it gave a way for films to remove the contrivance of a "directed" horror, of sets and cuts and angles which show the audience one thing and the characters another, as if the characters are irrelevant. It initially made the horror more uncertain, immediate, immersive. Of course now it's just used basically the way a director would use a camera, and through general overuse the effect has worn off
Although I wouldn't describe P:A as a horror movie.
you're so edgy, shitting on someone for not liking a movie. Man I wish I were as cool as you.
Because the stereotypical use of it is "Oh it was just a cat. I guess we're s-OH SHIT"
This is literally the first scare of Ju-On, matter of fact.
Not liking a movie is fine, calling anything Kubrick has done "boring and shitty" is being intellectually dishonest, as is claiming the only people who like that movie like it just because of it's director.
there's a movie 'when a stranger calls' that was on tv one day,
the, maybe 40 or so minutes, that I saw was just these. It was ridiculous
This was the Purge: Anarchy with the Cat Scare button:
wow what a goose
It was a jump scare early in Phantasmagoria. (I was pretty young, don't judge me too harshly)
I feel like it's because primal horror often has nowhere to go thematically or in terms of character development or story, and has trouble with resolution or conclusion, so you end up unsatisfied even with the most finely crafted horror film. Great horror always feels visceral but ultimately kind of empty. Often the more simple and unexplained the horror is, the scarier it is, and it can come down to how the visuals are handled. If you fuck up the visual framing or direction of a horror, you ruin the atmosphere, and no matter how good the story is, it fails
I guess. He was just a roided out supervillain with none of what made him so interesting in Silent Hill 2, but visually he was pretty intimidating so I'll give the film that. I wasn't even that big a fan of the look of the film like some SH fans are - the CGI fog was distracting.
My mistake, I meant The Conjuring.
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The Triangle
Long Weekend (2008)
Was staying over at my uncle's place, for starters, house was weird to begin with. When they bought it, there was a pentagram made out of rocks arranged in three points on the property, there was a window on the outside of the house that wasn't on the inside, creaky-ass wooden floors at all hours. A bit unnerving.
So, we watch The Ring, neat movie. I sleep on the couch, but, before I do, start going through the bonus features.
"boring" and "shitty" are both valid opinions for a person to have, and your assertion that no one could apply them to anything Kubrick has done is exactly the sort of attitude he's talking about
I too have felt the horror of DVD features. I fell asleep once with the heater on, drunk of course. In the background I'd left a DVD on, with one of those looping musical build ups DVDs have on menus. It was like a build up of all this cacophonous sounds and screeches, that would crash, then repeat. It worked its way into my dream, as did the heat of the heater. I woke up trapped under blankets which were so heavy with sweat I couldn't move, I panicked as the DVD menu kept playing over and over, which was in on a tv in another room so I had no idea what the fuck it was, I thought satan had finally claimed me and I'd woken up in hell.
Took me a good 5 minutes to recover and get out of the bed, turn the heater off, and slowly figure out what the fuck the sound was.
Also I agree Geebs, horror has to do more than just murderise people for me to feel scared, and often I'll get hung up on deaths that movies blow past. That's why I love horrors with a small cast, like Long Weekend