The bountyhunters remain seemingly mercenary in nature. And Nintendo never offer a real alternative beyond "it's some space-thing". I think they just don't want to talk about it.
The bountyhunters remain seemingly mercenary in nature. And Nintendo never offer a real alternative beyond "it's some space-thing". I think they just don't want to talk about it.
I think Samus is more of a special operative on retainer. They pay her because she knows Federation protocol for working with soldiers but can work alone.
They hire thr bounty hunters in Prime 3 in Similar manner they all seem to be galactic super heroes who can perform missions grunts cant
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That's still just a mercenary. She's not in the military or in any kind of chain of command, but is paid to perform military actions with combat-oriented hardware and training.
Even if the original "bounty hunter" thing was just an accident of translation, Samus is pretty definitely at least a mercenary.
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Does she get paid though? If she doesn't get actually paid, if she just helps out because she's cool like that, then she'd be just... a super hero I guess. Are the Avengers mercenaries?
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“For certain games, games that will be in development for, let’s call it a decent amount of time, like Metroid Prime 4 -- also, given that it’s a franchise that we know people have been very eager to get some news -- that’s when, fine, we’ll share it. We’ll share it early,” Fils-Aime added. “Others, we want to hold closer in and reveal it when the gameplay is going to be available. It literally is game by game, title by title, how we make that decision.”
Ironically, they never had to show the MP4 teaser at all; Samus Returns would have done the trick on its own, and it wasn't even featured on the showcase.
That's still just a mercenary. She's not in the military or in any kind of chain of command, but is paid to perform military actions with combat-oriented hardware and training.
Even if the original "bounty hunter" thing was just an accident of translation, Samus is pretty definitely at least a mercenary.
Im thinking more like James bond. I doubt theyd let Samus take private contracts or anything. To me its very much Aran you work for us and only us but youre free to approach it however you need to
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Does she get paid though? If she doesn't get actually paid, if she just helps out because she's cool like that, then she'd be just... a super hero I guess. Are the Avengers mercenaries?
She gets paid. Wiping out the Metroids was a paid job, for example.
She probably worked a lot of unpaid overtime in Prime 2, though.
I'm reminded of Team Star Fox. They're heroes who'll risk their hides to save yours. But you better believe they'll keep the meter running.
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Does she get paid though? If she doesn't get actually paid, if she just helps out because she's cool like that, then she'd be just... a super hero I guess. Are the Avengers mercenaries?
She gets paid. Wiping out the Metroids was a paid job, for example.
She probably worked a lot of unpaid overtime in Prime 2, though.
I'm reminded of Team Star Fox. They're heroes who'll risk their hides to save yours. But you better believe they'll keep the meter running.
It was a revelation when I realized at 12yo that the dog general guy was freaking out at a bill for services rendered and not a high score at the end of SF64. Team Star Fox charges by the kill.
Does she get paid though? If she doesn't get actually paid, if she just helps out because she's cool like that, then she'd be just... a super hero I guess. Are the Avengers mercenaries?
She gets paid. Wiping out the Metroids was a paid job, for example.
She probably worked a lot of unpaid overtime in Prime 2, though.
I'm reminded of Team Star Fox. They're heroes who'll risk their hides to save yours. But you better believe they'll keep the meter running.
It was a revelation when I realized at 12yo that the dog general guy was freaking out at a bill for services rendered and a not high score at the end of SF64. Team Star Fox charges by the kill.
The real difference is how she gets recruited to a job
Is a reward plastered all over space stations for turning in metroid teeth in a manner that anyone may claim it? Bounty Hunter
Is she specifically sought out to wipe out all metroids? Mercenary
There's probably a junior Federation officer who stands around the spaceport with a giant yellow exclamation point above his head, asking anyone who talks to him to bring him 13 Metroid tongues.
Yeah, Samus is actually a mercenary, she's hired to complete missions, not to hunt specific people for bounties. But Bounty Hunter just sounded cooler to the Nintendo people, I guess.
Course, then she often goes way beyond the mission because, you know, Chozo hero and stuff, but techncially she's basically a space troubleshooter. As in, she shoots trouble until it stops being trouble.
"Some years ago, a crack Federation operative was fired over an insubordination she most definitely did commit. Now, she survives as a soldier of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find her, maybe you can hire... Samus Aran"
For Prime 3, Retro needed a new gimmick and there was a great divide between the studio and Tanabe about what that should be. What they could agree on was Aran's character -- at least, for the most part. "Samus could best be summarized, at least in my mind, as Boba-Fett with a sense of honor. Everybody hears bounty hunter and, of course, Boba-Fett is synonymous with that for good reason: he's a very compelling character," says Walker. "But Samus has a sense of compassion and honor where she's not in it for the money. She does it to protect humanity. And her upbringing and being raised by the Chozo gave her that sense of nobility that I think many characters lack."
Samus really isn't about the money, a truth that confused the developer -- and me, upon hearing this story -- when it presented Nintendo a gameplay design that appealed to Aran's chosen occupation. "We were looking for something more along the lines of a mission-based game where Samus collected bounties. And for the life of us we couldn't understand why [Nintendo was] being so resistive to that concept. And then over the period of days we came to understand that their definition of a bounty hunter is not a bounty hunter. It is not someone who brings in bad guys for money. That concept was completely outside of their definition," says Walker. Nintendo told Retro that Samus does not actually take bounties for those she hunts. (Someone should tell Nintendo that Aran has officially been labeled a bounty hunter for two decades now, a slight inconsistency.) "So we started joking that Samus was actually a pro-bono hunter. And occasionally we'll run into those nuances of translation and culture that can sometimes derail us for days."
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For Prime 3, Retro needed a new gimmick and there was a great divide between the studio and Tanabe about what that should be. What they could agree on was Aran's character -- at least, for the most part. "Samus could best be summarized, at least in my mind, as Boba-Fett with a sense of honor. Everybody hears bounty hunter and, of course, Boba-Fett is synonymous with that for good reason: he's a very compelling character," says Walker. "But Samus has a sense of compassion and honor where she's not in it for the money. She does it to protect humanity. And her upbringing and being raised by the Chozo gave her that sense of nobility that I think many characters lack."
Samus really isn't about the money, a truth that confused the developer -- and me, upon hearing this story -- when it presented Nintendo a gameplay design that appealed to Aran's chosen occupation. "We were looking for something more along the lines of a mission-based game where Samus collected bounties. And for the life of us we couldn't understand why [Nintendo was] being so resistive to that concept. And then over the period of days we came to understand that their definition of a bounty hunter is not a bounty hunter. It is not someone who brings in bad guys for money. That concept was completely outside of their definition," says Walker. Nintendo told Retro that Samus does not actually take bounties for those she hunts. (Someone should tell Nintendo that Aran has officially been labeled a bounty hunter for two decades now, a slight inconsistency.) "So we started joking that Samus was actually a pro-bono hunter. And occasionally we'll run into those nuances of translation and culture that can sometimes derail us for days."
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So what title/profession did the Japanese give her originally?
I can't tell you all how disappointed I am that I finally recently changed the thread title ("Bounty Hunter? No, Samus is ... uh...") and NOW people are talking about that!
Actually, I'm disappointed because that is 100% the style of game I have wanted since Super Metroid: you take missions based on hunting bounties, where there is a tied-in story with Metroids.
I can't tell you all how disappointed I am that I finally recently changed the thread title ("Bounty Hunter? No, Samus is ... uh...") and NOW people are talking about that!
Actually, I'm disappointed because that is 100% the style of game I have wanted since Super Metroid: you take missions based on hunting bounties, where there is a tied-in story with Metroids.
I was surprised it was so quickly forgotten after that.
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uh, no?
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"hey y'know how a Metroid has a really neat line of metamorphosis and with each stage of mutation it makes some sense how it got there and it is still distinctly a Metroid?
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I remember Samus Aran being described as a 'Space Hunter' somewhere...
The Space Pirates throughout the Prime games do only refer to her as the Hunter in their communication.
Probably because Samus never leaves any one of them alive for long enough to learn her name and pass it on to the other Pirates.
I don't think they're particularly afraid of her because she kills them. This is a race which, after all, looks at things like experimenting with (potentially) compressing living bodies into a tiny ball, life-sucking space parasites, and horrifically mutagenic cosmic goo and goes "oh yeah, give me some of that, inject it right into my veins".
Self-preservation and fear of death don't seem to rate particularly highly with them.
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I think Samus is more of a special operative on retainer. They pay her because she knows Federation protocol for working with soldiers but can work alone.
They hire thr bounty hunters in Prime 3 in Similar manner they all seem to be galactic super heroes who can perform missions grunts cant
Even if the original "bounty hunter" thing was just an accident of translation, Samus is pretty definitely at least a mercenary.
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Ironically, they never had to show the MP4 teaser at all; Samus Returns would have done the trick on its own, and it wasn't even featured on the showcase.
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Im thinking more like James bond. I doubt theyd let Samus take private contracts or anything. To me its very much Aran you work for us and only us but youre free to approach it however you need to
She gets paid. Wiping out the Metroids was a paid job, for example.
She probably worked a lot of unpaid overtime in Prime 2, though.
I'm reminded of Team Star Fox. They're heroes who'll risk their hides to save yours. But you better believe they'll keep the meter running.
It was a revelation when I realized at 12yo that the dog general guy was freaking out at a bill for services rendered and not a high score at the end of SF64. Team Star Fox charges by the kill.
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Is a reward plastered all over space stations for turning in metroid teeth in a manner that anyone may claim it? Bounty Hunter
Is she specifically sought out to wipe out all metroids? Mercenary
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Yeah, she's probably more the mercenary side of thinks. Possibly closer to the knight errant / ronin tropes.
She's on the federation's shortlist of problem solvers.
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There's probably a junior Federation officer who stands around the spaceport with a giant yellow exclamation point above his head, asking anyone who talks to him to bring him 13 Metroid tongues.
Course, then she often goes way beyond the mission because, you know, Chozo hero and stuff, but techncially she's basically a space troubleshooter. As in, she shoots trouble until it stops being trouble.
"Some years ago, a crack Federation operative was fired over an insubordination she most definitely did commit. Now, she survives as a soldier of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find her, maybe you can hire... Samus Aran"
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So what title/profession did the Japanese give her originally?
Actually, I'm disappointed because that is 100% the style of game I have wanted since Super Metroid: you take missions based on hunting bounties, where there is a tied-in story with Metroids.
I mean, Space Knight Errant does kind of describe Samus pretty well.
But I don't think that's incompatible with taking money necessarily. Samus can just be very particular about the missions she takes.
I was surprised it was so quickly forgotten after that.
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Valiant comics, I'm pretty sure, and maybe that came from the NES manual?
Edit: Yes and no, apparently.
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When all the hotels in the area are used up, Samus will find you space somewhere.
She's like an alternative to Airbnb. Or works in conjunction with them.
The Space Pirates throughout the Prime games do only refer to her as the Hunter in their communication.
Probably because Samus never leaves any one of them alive for long enough to learn her name and pass it on to the other Pirates.
EDIT: Oh fuck, i just remembered that absolutely batshit lifecycle for Ridley's species that they added to Other M. What the fuck were they thinking?
uh, no?
"Let's not do that at all with Ridley!"
I don't think they're particularly afraid of her because she kills them. This is a race which, after all, looks at things like experimenting with (potentially) compressing living bodies into a tiny ball, life-sucking space parasites, and horrifically mutagenic cosmic goo and goes "oh yeah, give me some of that, inject it right into my veins".
Self-preservation and fear of death don't seem to rate particularly highly with them.