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Overkill and Starbreeze are prototyping this now, I know it.
That's fine, but in all the times I've seen people get spun up in the terms of any software, operating system, etc, it's ended up amounting to nothing. Could this be the time that the T&Cs say "We might take your first born" and they actually do it? Sure. But in the past for all the news stories I've seen with similar topics, my day to day use of my PC has never been impacted.
This is why I don't see the trend reversing itself. 10 is a good OS. Very few people are going to turn down a basically free and good OS just because of T&C. And hopefully even if Microsoft manages to do a good job with "(companies') Property Rights Management" and creating a closed ecosystem, it'll continue to exist beside a healthy open ecosystem.
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I can't find the "I think you've lost your marbles" button. :razz:
This would be why I don't like Adobe's subscription based Photoshop and friends (Creative Cloud Bullshit). In fact, beyond Everquest I struggle to think of any software with a subscription that I've ever used.
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That's not really it. Testing is (or was) done with first party gear only so there is no guarantee that third party will work properly (due to programming issues beyond my ken). The warning about breaking the system is that since third party stuff isn't fully tested, they will not accept liability if it does break something.
Now, a dev (or even a system designer, I suppose) could block the use of third party hardware in the code. Activision even famously did not support the Rock Band guitar in GH3 even though Rock Band supported (or tried to) everything.
As far as unauthorised hardware for PCs? Probably things that could or is used for software piracy. Anybody remember when Alcohol programs would sometimes prevent games from running?
Anyway, I wouldn't read too much into that wording.
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That's because my wife keeps it on her person at all times.
So uh, if you've reserved a copy, but not gone any farther - that doesn't change your license right away does it? Like - I could just not ever install the reserved copy and be fine?
I knew I should have paid more attention and/or annoyed my MS friend first.
EDIT: Just looked at the email and saw I can un-reserve my copy. I do believe I'll do that tonight when I get home from work.
EXTRA EDIT: Just read Pixie's comment about holding out. Maybe I won't un-reserve, but will continually harass my MS friend if it messes me up in any way, shape or form. (Including unwarranted complaints because I can get away with it.)
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Conversely, I think Adobe's service is fantastic. I can pay a few bucks a month and get a product I otherwise would have had to pay $TEXAS for every couple years, and it stays updated with no fuss. Before they introduced the subscription model, I was still stuck using Photoshop 6.0 (so old it took voodoo and blood magic to get it to install and run on Win7) because upgrading was prohibitively expensive.
What's not to love? So I don't "own" it? Previous versions weren't "owned" either.
I have an MSDN license, so I have the luxury of waiting it out. They'll release some game I want that's DirectX whatever, and then I'll cave and download it. Then I won't really play the game and I'll be disappointed with myself. Windows 8 and Skulls of the Shogun, I'm looking at you.
edit: Speaking of no Win11, I was always holding out hope that MS would fix their file system. Corrupted ACLs and file metadata will continue to be my bane for life, I guess.
Everyone needs to stop this immediately.
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Don't worry, you can cancel the "reservation" and still "reserve" the free upgrade again in the future. Just remember you will need to perform it before 29th July next year. After that day the free upgrade will be no more.
BTW, I posted this in the Windows 10 thread related to the Windows 10 free-upgrade licence transfer, but I thing it may be interesting for many of you here too:
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My wife purchased the Creative Suite 6 package. It was around $2000. I don't need it to be updated. It is the first and possibly only version of these things that I need. It does the functions I want it to do, works with my Wacom tablet, and thus far, works just fine with my OS.
The thing is, that 2000 could pay for 8 and 1/3rd years of their service. The last time I got any Adobe products was about 10 years prior to purchasing the "new" software (and that old one was $500 because I bought it when I was going to school). Also, I don't have $20 a month every month to use something that is arguably one of the key components of me making art right now.
Creative Cloud is great, all but for the fact that I am not the target demographic. Which is odd, since I am an artist.
Though I had student discount edition Photoshop so that's my experience.
As someone who has been using OEM versions of Windows (bought from Newegg or Amazon) because they tend to be cheaper than "full retail" versions for 10+ years across multiple computers, I can safely say this is not an issue.
Change your mobo? No biggie - Windows will activate. Rebuild the whole damn rig? Doesn't matter - Windows will activate. And if, by some chance, it won't activate automatically you can call MS and do it by phone. This has literally never been an issue for me, anyone in my family, or any person I know IRL. And I've built/rebuilt/modified a metric shit-ton of computers.
Heck, there's a Win10 FAQ somewhere (I can't dig up link where I am) that specifically addresses this and says it will work fine.
The first creative suite I got was around 500 with a student discount. We got it because just Photoshop was like 400 with the discount.
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I did a couple of months of customer service for Adobe during the tech crash in the early 2000s. The justification for the price on the full Creative Suite is that the intended customer for Photoshop is the graphic artist professional who is using it to, presumably, make many times their purchase price back in revenue. It's not intended for people who want to slap a funny caption on a cat photo; those customers would be just as happy with Photoshop Elements (Which is pretty good! And a lot less cumbersome than the full CS, and about 80 bucks on Amazon usually)
Yeah, but you made yourself a target by being all...British and gift-y with those copies of Her Story, or whatever it was you were gifting to people a while back.
If there's one thing this thread loves, it's gift piling on the British and the generous.
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So this happened.
It's not enough to have every VN on Steam thrown at me. Now I'm getting the tools to make my own VNs.
Hm. This has potential...
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So far I'm still giving it a qualified 'yes', but that could change if stuff suddenly stops working, or Microsoft starts sending SWAT teams after people with torrent software.
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Bargain bin pricing for a port of a few years old WiiU title that used the WiiU hardware in a specific, non reproduceable way, and they have done little to no press for it or even told people how the game will run without a 2nd screen.
Huh.
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We'll see. I like ZombiU, but really the whole looking down at my gamepad screen was what made it scary.
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I had Photoshop Elements. It sucked, because all my classes used actual Photoshop.
To be honest I used a cracked copy of Photoshop for the entirety of my AA degree so I could get homework done. Then things happened and whoops it was a bad idea to choose a "cushy" AA to focus on because my career path just went kerput. So I stopped using Photoshop and the rest of the CS because no more reason.
They have actually. The main thing they didn't release was price or technical specs, but they detailed how it will deal without the gamepad a few days after the port announcement.
I think people kind of oversell the Gamepad stuff in ZombiU. It created some tension with like unlocking stuff, but the majority of its' uses weren't all that compelling. Yeah, you need to look away from the screen to view your inventory but anyone that's ever played a game without a pause function like Dark Souls is going to just manage their inventory in a safe and secure spot. They will probably reproduce the scanning mechanic just like Resident Evil Revelations did, and really, it's a shitty mechanic in both games anyway that was needlessly gimmicky. Sniping is obvious. Radar will be a minimap or map function.
The only thing that will be really lost are the few moments like using keypads and whatnot, which can still be reproduced, just not as well. And the multiplayer, which was nuked.
Then again I've always found most new console control gimmicks pretty insufferable and often overcomplicating things. I just finished Everyone's Gone to the Rapture on PS4 and they mapped shit to the fucking Sixaxis that surprise, was awkward and fiddly as shit, like every other game that's tried to use it.
Photoshop is a weird thing because it's a professional software suite but unlike most professional software often gets sold to individuals as opposed to businesses. Not sure I can think of any other software tools that do that. The others I know of that can be used to make things that can generate the user money also are aimed at hobbyists so the price is lower and there's not as much support. For example, the VN maker Pixie just got gifted.
I mean, I'm sure that professional DJ and audio editing software that cost a pretty penny exist as well but I've known people who worked freelance doing that stuff that were able to make do with less expensive stuff.
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I'll add that my Win10 upgrade experience was mostly painless as well. I upgraded my desktop, primary game rig, from Win7, and my laptop/mobile desktop replacement from Win8.1. Getting rid of Win8 was phenomenal, I'm never going back on that machine.
On my desktop, the upgrade was pretty painless, however, a few old legacy titles (X-Wing/TIE Fighter remastered editions, XWvT) simply don't work on Win10. Neither does my CH Products control software, likely because the manufacturer only does joysticks as a side business and will get around to updating the drivers... eventually.
So I ended up setting up a new Win7 boot side for those games and systems that need it. Setting up the dual boot was also pretty painless, and now everything works, one way or the other.
I'm not going to get into the privacy argument stuff, other than to say that I think the naysayers are generally blowing this well out of proportion, and it feels like we get this same set of "Well, they COULD potentially do this, maybe!!! OMG EVIL!!!" toothnashing with every new OS, dating back to at least XP.
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I'll play Night of the Rabbit later tonight.
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