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    Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    That sounds like Man of Steel-levels of misunderstanding a character

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    edited November 2015
    Mr. G wrote: »
    That sounds like Man of Steel-levels of misunderstanding a character
    Turning Kamala into a creepy obsessive stalker is so much worse

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    OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    Marvel's done some really good stories with realistic and relatable damaged heroes, particularly in the Netflix space. Ms. Marvel really needs to be a hero first and foremost. Like, don't get me wrong, she should definitely be a complex character, but if the focus is, yet again, on her issues over general heroics, well, that lends some major ammo to the whole "MCU has problems with female characters" argument.

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Marvel's done some really good stories with realistic and relatable damaged heroes, particularly in the Netflix space. Ms. Marvel really needs to be a hero first and foremost. Like, don't get me wrong, she should definitely be a complex character, but if the focus is, yet again, on her issues over general heroics, well, that lends some major ammo to the whole "MCU has problems with female characters" argument.
    In her defense, she is referencing stories from Carol's history, namely her alcohol abuse and her memory loss, but seems to think they are what define her and make her a damaged hero when in reality they're just dark patches on an otherwise pretty sterling, heroic career

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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Apparently Reed Moreno, director of Meadowland, did a big interview about how she'd wanna direct Captain Marvel with Olivia Wilde in the role, emphasizing how she wants Carol to be really fucked up and flawed and still be a hero but be a damaged one and then dropped this piece at the end.
    “Maybe Kamala Khan because of her idolizing Carol Danvers and her taking on the Ms. Marvel name after Danvers drops it,” she said. “There could be a scary, obsessive Single White Female or even Black Swan type vibe, which could make for a very dark relationship between the two of them, further complicating Danvers’ journey.”

    Please do not hire this lady, Marvel

    Jesus

    That sounds like something you'd pitch as a joke. As a friggin' parody of dark-n-gritty interpretations.

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    OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Marvel's done some really good stories with realistic and relatable damaged heroes, particularly in the Netflix space. Ms. Marvel really needs to be a hero first and foremost. Like, don't get me wrong, she should definitely be a complex character, but if the focus is, yet again, on her issues over general heroics, well, that lends some major ammo to the whole "MCU has problems with female characters" argument.
    In her defense, she is referencing stories from Carol's history, namely her alcohol abuse and her memory loss, but seems to think they are what define her and make her a damaged hero when in reality they're just dark patches on an otherwise pretty sterling, heroic career

    Oh yeah, of course. Like I said, she still needs to be complex and should have a history. But it would be nice if those things are part of her background. Elements that inform her character and her decisions without being a focal point. Let's see someone who's mostly moved past that stuff (as much as a person can, at least).

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    RainfallRainfall Registered User regular
    Holy shit that's the worst possible interpretation of the character ever, short of her being abducted and married by her future-son or whatever the fuck happened there.

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    Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    Finished Jessica Jones last night. I liked it. I want more of it

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
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    Jesus god he looks so bad

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    Lash looks pretty goddamn dumb but this dude takes the stupid cake

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    OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
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    Jesus god he looks so bad

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    Lash looks pretty goddamn dumb but this dude takes the stupid cake

    He looks like he was hanging out in a paint booth for some reason.

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    He looks like he should be in Times Square posing for pictures as either The Vision or Iron Man depending on which you think he looks more like

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    DedwrekkaDedwrekka Metal Hell adjacentRegistered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Marvel's done some really good stories with realistic and relatable damaged heroes, particularly in the Netflix space. Ms. Marvel really needs to be a hero first and foremost. Like, don't get me wrong, she should definitely be a complex character, but if the focus is, yet again, on her issues over general heroics, well, that lends some major ammo to the whole "MCU has problems with female characters" argument.
    In her defense, she is referencing stories from Carol's history, namely her alcohol abuse and her memory loss, but seems to think they are what define her and make her a damaged hero when in reality they're just dark patches on an otherwise pretty sterling, heroic career

    All of that had to do with the really bad stuff from the event that most fans, and not fans, won't even talk about. It's not a great defense, it's like deciding that communist puncher Cap was the defining Captain America.

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Dedwrekka wrote: »
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Marvel's done some really good stories with realistic and relatable damaged heroes, particularly in the Netflix space. Ms. Marvel really needs to be a hero first and foremost. Like, don't get me wrong, she should definitely be a complex character, but if the focus is, yet again, on her issues over general heroics, well, that lends some major ammo to the whole "MCU has problems with female characters" argument.
    In her defense, she is referencing stories from Carol's history, namely her alcohol abuse and her memory loss, but seems to think they are what define her and make her a damaged hero when in reality they're just dark patches on an otherwise pretty sterling, heroic career

    All of that had to do with the really bad stuff from the event that most fans, and not fans, won't even talk about. It's not a great defense, it's like deciding that communist puncher Cap was the defining Captain America.
    Well I mean that dude isn't Steve Rogers so it isn't really the same thing but I get your point

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    JayKaosJayKaos Registered User regular
    edited November 2015
    They put absolutely no effort into disguising the fact he's just wearing a big rubber hood thing.

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    hailtothekalehailtothekale Registered User regular
    Tonight's the Red Tornado episode of Supergirl, right? I can't wait!

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    joshgotrojoshgotro Deviled Egg The Land of REAL CHILIRegistered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
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    Jesus god he looks so bad

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    Lash looks pretty goddamn dumb but this dude takes the stupid cake
    JayKaos wrote: »
    They put absolutely no effort into disguising the fact he's just wearing a big rubber hood thing.

    Maybe it's gonna look amazing when they CGI him spinning around? Probably not.

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    JayKaosJayKaos Registered User regular
    I went to find pictures of terrible CGI tornadoes and just kept finding that guy instead.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
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    Jesus god he looks so bad

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    Lash looks pretty goddamn dumb but this dude takes the stupid cake

    That is some bad Vision cosplay.

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    Face looks fine, but it looks like he's wearing a warm sweater instead of...being made out of metal, or whatever

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    He looks like a crappy sentai villain and it's kind of great

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    NogsNogs Crap, crap, mega crap. Crap, crap, mega crap.Registered User regular
    only thing i can think of that might save it is

    maybe hes suppose to look like crap?

    like red tornado is literally torn the shreds and broken apart pretty much always. could be explained off as modular cheap parts that reassemble easily?

    i dunno im reaching here.

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Apparently Reed Moreno, director of Meadowland, did a big interview about how she'd wanna direct Captain Marvel with Olivia Wilde in the role, emphasizing how she wants Carol to be really fucked up and flawed and still be a hero but be a damaged one and then dropped this piece at the end.
    “Maybe Kamala Khan because of her idolizing Carol Danvers and her taking on the Ms. Marvel name after Danvers drops it,” she said. “There could be a scary, obsessive Single White Female or even Black Swan type vibe, which could make for a very dark relationship between the two of them, further complicating Danvers’ journey.”

    Please do not hire this lady, Marvel

    Man, pitching this right after Jessica Jones is pretty bad, too.

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    WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    i googled "bad sentai villain" to see if I could pick out which one red tornado looks like and I got a picture of apocalypse from the next x-men movie

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    NeoTomaNeoToma Registered User regular
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    StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    I keep seeing that and it's a great point

    Except

    Malcolm is the best

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    FuruFuru Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Apparently Reed Moreno, director of Meadowland, did a big interview about how she'd wanna direct Captain Marvel with Olivia Wilde in the role, emphasizing how she wants Carol to be really fucked up and flawed and still be a hero but be a damaged one and then dropped this piece at the end.
    “Maybe Kamala Khan because of her idolizing Carol Danvers and her taking on the Ms. Marvel name after Danvers drops it,” she said. “There could be a scary, obsessive Single White Female or even Black Swan type vibe, which could make for a very dark relationship between the two of them, further complicating Danvers’ journey.”

    Please do not hire this lady, Marvel

    aaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    but no seriously fuck off

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    i googled "bad sentai villain" to see if I could pick out which one red tornado looks like and I got a picture of apocalypse from the next x-men movie

    It's the "facepaint with surrounding headgear" thing that's giving me that impression, mostly

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    Except they didn't have budget for the rest of a costume, so he's wearing a sweater they dipped in paint and some work gloves.

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    ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    Straightzi wrote: »
    I keep seeing that and it's a great point

    Except

    Malcolm is the best

    Also Simpson is a cool character?
    like hes not a good PERSON, but yeah

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    StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    Straightzi wrote: »
    I keep seeing that and it's a great point

    Except

    Malcolm is the best

    Also Simpson is a cool character?
    like hes not a good PERSON, but yeah

    I uhh

    I mean he's something

    Spoilers through episode 10
    That something is a supervillain

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    OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    Straightzi wrote: »
    I keep seeing that and it's a great point

    Except

    Malcolm is the best

    Also Simpson is a cool character?
    like hes not a good PERSON, but yeah
    He's a bad guy origin story.

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    FCDFCD Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Apparently Reed Moreno, director of Meadowland, did a big interview about how she'd wanna direct Captain Marvel with Olivia Wilde in the role, emphasizing how she wants Carol to be really fucked up and flawed and still be a hero but be a damaged one and then dropped this piece at the end.
    “Maybe Kamala Khan because of her idolizing Carol Danvers and her taking on the Ms. Marvel name after Danvers drops it,” she said. “There could be a scary, obsessive Single White Female or even Black Swan type vibe, which could make for a very dark relationship between the two of them, further complicating Danvers’ journey.”

    Please do not hire this lady, Marvel

    It's amazing to me how tone deaf this is. Yes, let's take a beloved, bright, positive Muslim-American hero, which is so important during this time when racism and xenophobia against anyone like that is rampant, and make them a villain! Brilliant! Jesus fucking wept.

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    OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    i googled "bad sentai villain" to see if I could pick out which one red tornado looks like and I got a picture of apocalypse from the next x-men movie

    Sure, if an American-made movie about an American TV show that used Sentai footage counts as Sentai.

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    ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    Straightzi wrote: »
    Straightzi wrote: »
    I keep seeing that and it's a great point

    Except

    Malcolm is the best

    Also Simpson is a cool character?
    like hes not a good PERSON, but yeah

    I uhh

    I mean he's something

    Spoilers through episode 10
    That something is a supervillain

    Yes?

    He's a cool character

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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    Straightzi wrote: »
    I keep seeing that and it's a great point

    Except

    Malcolm is the best

    Malcolm's dope, Luke's dope, Simpson is a really interesting spin on a Reilly-type character (to make some Buffy comparisons).

    Haha, I'm making a post defending the male characters of a superhero show we live in the goddamn future

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Malcolm is probably the single most "positive" character in the entire show

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    ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    Like its great that there are a lot of cool women in JJ

    thats a silly tweet though

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    Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    Man I didn't even think about the idea of Marvel's most prominent (only?) Muslim character being adapted into a dangerously unstable extremist villain

    Fuck that

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    KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    Like its great that there are a lot of cool women in JJ

    thats a silly tweet though

    I think it's supposed to be a silly tweet

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    DedwrekkaDedwrekka Metal Hell adjacentRegistered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Apparently Reed Moreno, director of Meadowland, did a big interview about how she'd wanna direct Captain Marvel with Olivia Wilde in the role, emphasizing how she wants Carol to be really fucked up and flawed and still be a hero but be a damaged one and then dropped this piece at the end.
    “Maybe Kamala Khan because of her idolizing Carol Danvers and her taking on the Ms. Marvel name after Danvers drops it,” she said. “There could be a scary, obsessive Single White Female or even Black Swan type vibe, which could make for a very dark relationship between the two of them, further complicating Danvers’ journey.”

    Please do not hire this lady, Marvel

    So, rereading this I think the thing I hate the most is the idea that Kamala is a character who's around just to inform Carol's character rather than a fully realized character on her own. Like, no. Carol informs Kamala's character, not the other way around.

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    ToxTox I kill threads he/himRegistered User regular
    FCD wrote: »
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Apparently Reed Moreno, director of Meadowland, did a big interview about how she'd wanna direct Captain Marvel with Olivia Wilde in the role, emphasizing how she wants Carol to be really fucked up and flawed and still be a hero but be a damaged one and then dropped this piece at the end.
    “Maybe Kamala Khan because of her idolizing Carol Danvers and her taking on the Ms. Marvel name after Danvers drops it,” she said. “There could be a scary, obsessive Single White Female or even Black Swan type vibe, which could make for a very dark relationship between the two of them, further complicating Danvers’ journey.”

    Please do not hire this lady, Marvel

    It's amazing to me how tone deaf this is. Yes, let's take a beloved, bright, positive Muslim-American hero, which is so important during this time when racism and xenophobia against anyone like that is rampant, and make them a villain! Brilliant! Jesus fucking wept.

    If anything they should take a cue from Iron Man 2. Have Carol be like Tony in a "kid, you don't want to be like me. I don't even want to be like me!" kinda way and then Kamala is all "Nah, see, you're a hero and an inspiration and I'm gonna prove it."

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