every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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knitdanIn ur baseKillin ur guysRegistered Userregular
Nah, there's plenty of streamers who don't have boobs. But I also think there's so many people out there doing it that it would be really tough to break in as a new person trying to build a following.
“I was quick when I came in here, I’m twice as quick now”
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@OnTheLastCastle I knew this was being made but their page went months and months without updating and I had kind of given up hope on it ever coming out. And then suddenly it shows up in my Steam inbox as a gift from a bro. I am over the moon right now.
totally unrelated I decided to watch it before going to bed
I find it charming and fun if a but hamfisted about being a metaphor for depression
will continue to watch
@Chanus continue to keep me apprised of izombie-ing pls
It's a hugely fun show that just builds and builds. it shows that mystery of the week procedural type storytelling can be totally fine if it's done with verve and charm and used a bit of social satire, but at the same time the overall plot that they (very gradually) build up is good stuff, well-planned-out, and occasionally turns the show's fun tone on its ear with moments of genuinely WTF horror
I love it and I am very cold on zombie stuff normally
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ElldrenIs a woman dammitceterum censeoRegistered Userregular
It's ok, it's the fault of reddit for having an incredibly shitty interface that does huge damage to readability.
Basically imagine any thread on this forum, then imagine the posts were ordered not by when they were posted, but by how many agrees and awesomes they got. That's what you are trying to read.
I feel vindicated in my decision never to watch a Cinema Sins video, on the assumption it was garbage fire nit-picking fit only for people who would be better off as Soylent Green.
reddit's interface made sense to me very quickly, tho some other huge, popular services still confound me
reddit is essentially: here's a popular comment. if you'd like, you can see responses (and responses to those responses). if instead you are bored with that comment or its children, collapse it. in this way you can say 'ok i clicked on a thread about a mass shooting. instead of reading everyone sequentially not understanding things at the same rate, i can pursue the thread about 'any suspects yet?' or 'do we know how many dead?'
i find it very natural, tho the actual colors/content placement can be kinda offputting. the scheme clicks for me, anyway.
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I knew Cinema Sins was irredeemable garbage when they counted a Wilhelm scream as a sin
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It's ok, it's the fault of reddit for having an incredibly shitty interface that does huge damage to readability.
Basically imagine any thread on this forum, then imagine the posts were ordered not by when they were posted, but by how many agrees and awesomes they got. That's what you are trying to read.
So basically a catalog of my posts?
maybe i'm streaming terrible dj right now if i am its here
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knitdanIn ur baseKillin ur guysRegistered Userregular
Now imagine if a bunch of people disagreed with your posts so much they pretty much just disappeared.
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@Jacobkosh do you think fresh inspired the famous d'angelo barksdale speech
maybe i'm streaming terrible dj right now if i am its here
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ElldrenIs a woman dammitceterum censeoRegistered Userregular
reddit's interface made sense to me very quickly, tho some other huge, popular services still confound me
reddit is essentially: here's a popular comment. if you'd like, you can see responses (and responses to those responses). if instead you are bored with that comment or its children, collapse it. in this way you can say 'ok i clicked on a thread about a mass shooting. instead of reading everyone sequentially not understanding things at the same rate, i can pursue the thread about 'any suspects yet?' or 'do we know how many dead?'
i find it very natural, tho the actual colors/content placement can be kinda offputting. the scheme clicks for me, anyway.
It's just completely counterintuitive for me
fuck gendered marketing
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y2jake215certified Flat Birther theoristthe Last Good Boy onlineRegistered Userregular
reddit's interface made sense to me very quickly, tho some other huge, popular services still confound me
reddit is essentially: here's a popular comment. if you'd like, you can see responses (and responses to those responses). if instead you are bored with that comment or its children, collapse it. in this way you can say 'ok i clicked on a thread about a mass shooting. instead of reading everyone sequentially not understanding things at the same rate, i can pursue the thread about 'any suspects yet?' or 'do we know how many dead?'
i find it very natural, tho the actual colors/content placement can be kinda offputting. the scheme clicks for me, anyway.
But everything devolves into increasingly chained replies that end up hidden behind collapsed sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-trees or downvoted out of place and lost. You see this actually in AMAs all the time where it's incredibly difficult to extract the actual information because it's not clear where the answers are and they don't appear in any sort of order. It's all just jumbled and shifted around by people replying and up/down voting, moving content into odd places. You also end up, in my experience, with tons of repeated questions because of that.
There's no way to hold or follow a conversation when comments get hidden or moved around because of up/downvoting. Ranking things by rating is good for information you want to see, when you just want to know X and X floats to the top, not for a back and forth you want to follow or participate in.
Frankly, the most disconcerting thing I find whenever I have to use Reddit is that it's difficult to read a ... thread? a second time because it's not immediately obvious where the new content that was posted after I left is within it. It's built to accomodate a one-and-done style browse of a conversation that already happened and ended.
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ElldrenIs a woman dammitceterum censeoRegistered Userregular
Trying to hold an asynchronous conversation is difficult even when you are incredibly close to the other party
Trying to have one with a massed group of strangers feels impossible
There is probably a neuro paper in there somewhere
reddit's interface made sense to me very quickly, tho some other huge, popular services still confound me
reddit is essentially: here's a popular comment. if you'd like, you can see responses (and responses to those responses). if instead you are bored with that comment or its children, collapse it. in this way you can say 'ok i clicked on a thread about a mass shooting. instead of reading everyone sequentially not understanding things at the same rate, i can pursue the thread about 'any suspects yet?' or 'do we know how many dead?'
i find it very natural, tho the actual colors/content placement can be kinda offputting. the scheme clicks for me, anyway.
But everything devolves into increasingly chained replies that end up hidden behind collapsed sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-trees or downvoted out of place and lost. You see this actually in AMAs all the time where it's incredibly difficult to extract the actual information because it's not clear where the answers are and they don't appear in any sort of order. It's all just jumbled and shifted around by people replying and up/down voting, moving content into odd places. You also end up, in my experience, with tons of repeated questions because of that.
There's no way to hold or follow a conversation when comments get hidden or moved around because of up/downvoting. Ranking things by rating is good for information you want to see, when you just want to know X and X floats to the top, not for a back and forth you want to follow or participate in.
maybe i am just conversant in the system but the voting apparatus is self-correcting. except for the occasional vote-fuckery for a joke (like r/sweden trashing trump all day today), this sorts itself out. even for non-AMAs, voters typically have the courtesy to upvote the two people engaged in the primary conversation- or i should say, the conversation that was spawned from a high-voted comment by one of the two people having the conversation.
i don't mean to dismiss the problem you have but it's not hard at all for me to bite into almost any conversation i want to follow. i will of course miss some posts, as is the nature of a site where everything on the front page has hundreds and hundreds of comments. but reddiquette allows for (well-regarded) conversations to have plenty of continuity.
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knitdanIn ur baseKillin ur guysRegistered Userregular
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its the same problem with PornHub. You search for something and get the most popular hits. But you wanted something new, you've seen all those before. So then you search for highly rated and it's some weird fetish stuff that like 5 people watched and rated 100%. Next up is new stuff and it's mostly dreck or sometimes it's one of the popular videos with a new name. Seriously who the hell does that?
But at least with PornHub the comments are sometimes pretty good.
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“I was quick when I came in here, I’m twice as quick now”
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
the staying power of some top threads is pretty annoying. i find that when i have thoroughly picked over the first few pages of the front page, i just take a break. it's probably a sign i've been doing the same thing for too long anyways.
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ElldrenIs a woman dammitceterum censeoRegistered Userregular
It's really not whether or not there is vote fuckery as you put it
It's that there is voting, and this affects where things are
It's like someone coming in and moving everything in your room around every time you leave. It is disorienting to say the least
@OnTheLastCastle I knew this was being made but their page went months and months without updating and I had kind of given up hope on it ever coming out. And then suddenly it shows up in my Steam inbox as a gift from a bro. I am over the moon right now.
Bought and played immediately.
Lemme tell you, the AI is p hilar. It does stuff like play Destalinization for the event and then only move two influence (???). It also spends a lot of time playing into your controlled countries with no follow up plan aside from "obviously, lose IPs every time we make this exchange."
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I had to write it down cause it was hard to explain why its next level irresponsible.
just tell her it's like acting or the music biz in which 99% of aspirants don't make it big or something i guess?
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
@simonwolf this sent chills of pleasure up my spine.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
@OnTheLastCastle I knew this was being made but their page went months and months without updating and I had kind of given up hope on it ever coming out. And then suddenly it shows up in my Steam inbox as a gift from a bro. I am over the moon right now.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
@Chanus continue to keep me apprised of izombie-ing pls
It's a hugely fun show that just builds and builds. it shows that mystery of the week procedural type storytelling can be totally fine if it's done with verve and charm and used a bit of social satire, but at the same time the overall plot that they (very gradually) build up is good stuff, well-planned-out, and occasionally turns the show's fun tone on its ear with moments of genuinely WTF horror
I love it and I am very cold on zombie stuff normally
Omg a skullet!
I haven't seen one in the wild in over a decade
I just checked out a couple random videos on the channel, seems p legit
I'll be fucked if I can read Reddit comments
The entire thing is just opaque to me
This here is some inspired shit:
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
i still can't read twitter comments, is k, no shame
Let Shesellssheshells hire voice actors to read them to you
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
I got a little excited when I saw your ship.
I like this very much
It's ok, it's the fault of reddit for having an incredibly shitty interface that does huge damage to readability.
Basically imagine any thread on this forum, then imagine the posts were ordered not by when they were posted, but by how many agrees and awesomes they got. That's what you are trying to read.
I approve of any attack on internet nitpicking.
It’s not a very important country most of the time
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reddit is essentially: here's a popular comment. if you'd like, you can see responses (and responses to those responses). if instead you are bored with that comment or its children, collapse it. in this way you can say 'ok i clicked on a thread about a mass shooting. instead of reading everyone sequentially not understanding things at the same rate, i can pursue the thread about 'any suspects yet?' or 'do we know how many dead?'
i find it very natural, tho the actual colors/content placement can be kinda offputting. the scheme clicks for me, anyway.
So basically a catalog of my posts?
maybe i'm streaming terrible dj right now if i am its here
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
maybe i'm streaming terrible dj right now if i am its here
It's just completely counterintuitive for me
So, a catalog of any conversation I attempt in real life
maybe i'm streaming terrible dj right now if i am its here
But everything devolves into increasingly chained replies that end up hidden behind collapsed sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-trees or downvoted out of place and lost. You see this actually in AMAs all the time where it's incredibly difficult to extract the actual information because it's not clear where the answers are and they don't appear in any sort of order. It's all just jumbled and shifted around by people replying and up/down voting, moving content into odd places. You also end up, in my experience, with tons of repeated questions because of that.
There's no way to hold or follow a conversation when comments get hidden or moved around because of up/downvoting. Ranking things by rating is good for information you want to see, when you just want to know X and X floats to the top, not for a back and forth you want to follow or participate in.
Frankly, the most disconcerting thing I find whenever I have to use Reddit is that it's difficult to read a ... thread? a second time because it's not immediately obvious where the new content that was posted after I left is within it. It's built to accomodate a one-and-done style browse of a conversation that already happened and ended.
Trying to have one with a massed group of strangers feels impossible
There is probably a neuro paper in there somewhere
maybe i am just conversant in the system but the voting apparatus is self-correcting. except for the occasional vote-fuckery for a joke (like r/sweden trashing trump all day today), this sorts itself out. even for non-AMAs, voters typically have the courtesy to upvote the two people engaged in the primary conversation- or i should say, the conversation that was spawned from a high-voted comment by one of the two people having the conversation.
i don't mean to dismiss the problem you have but it's not hard at all for me to bite into almost any conversation i want to follow. i will of course miss some posts, as is the nature of a site where everything on the front page has hundreds and hundreds of comments. but reddiquette allows for (well-regarded) conversations to have plenty of continuity.
But at least with PornHub the comments are sometimes pretty good.
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
It's that there is voting, and this affects where things are
It's like someone coming in and moving everything in your room around every time you leave. It is disorienting to say the least
Bought and played immediately.
Lemme tell you, the AI is p hilar. It does stuff like play Destalinization for the event and then only move two influence (???). It also spends a lot of time playing into your controlled countries with no follow up plan aside from "obviously, lose IPs every time we make this exchange."
It's a highly disorienting thing for me that affects my ability to parse the thread at all. I need the structure that time provides
I need to have time stamps on pretty much everything
Without knowing when in an absolute sense something was written I have difficulty integrating it
It's one thing I hate about vanilla: it truncates the post date stamps relative to the current day/time and I find that kind of disorienting too
30 seconds not enough. I await my betamax copy of the episode that simonwolf promised me.
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that stinks