speaking of edgy RPGs Varg Vikernes has released his shitty generic fantasy RPG and setting that is very thinly veiled Nazi propaganda (with Muslim and Jewish fantasy stand-in cultures that worship awful evil gods. . .)
releasing an RPG is the least black metal thing I can think of doing
in scandinavia at least the overlap between metal fans and rpg fans is pretty big
Indeed, it just ins't in keeping with the whatever the BM equivalent of kayfabe is
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speaking of edgy RPGs Varg Vikernes has released his shitty generic fantasy RPG and setting that is very thinly veiled Nazi propaganda (with Muslim and Jewish fantasy stand-in cultures that worship awful evil gods. . .)
releasing an RPG is the least black metal thing I can think of doing
in scandinavia at least the overlap between metal fans and rpg fans is pretty big
Indeed, it just ins't in keeping with the whatever the BM equivalent of kayfabe is
It's entirely possible that leading a charmed life free of hardship is exactly the thing that would deprive you of the ability to empathize with the struggles of others. The point is not that something unjust happened to them to make them the way they are, the point is that something at all makes them the way they are, and our concern is with what that is and how we address it. You are molded by something, be it genes or experience or random chance, and unless you posit some sort of supernatural element to the concept of choice then you have to acknowledge that every decision a person makes is because of factors that ultimately originated from a source external to them.
No argument from me on this front; I just don't find it very useful to point out.
'[X] aggravates violence & crime, and we so we should address [X] as best we are able,' is something I agree with & something I think has been demonstrated repeatedly in egalitarian judicial systems (so long as [X] encompasses actual causes of crime, anyway).
'[X] is the cause of aggressive / anti-social / unwanted behavior, so we should solely focus on [X] until everyone stops being bad' is a utopian outlook that I feel doesn't square with reality, not because of some supernatural agent but because some of what we define as anti-social behavior cannot be corrected against without leveraging another tool from the anti-social behavior bucket and we cannot realistically (IMHO) operate a large society while attempting to exclude every little bit of aggravating factors (at least, certainly not a society I think most of us would want to live in).
world of darkness edition wars are the stupidest shit
i got into this stuff late so I'm not really invested in how it ought to be the way some are
I think Old Mage gets the edge in terms of like, really clear visual iconography? "this guy is a voodoo, this guy is a catholic priest, this lady is wiccan, and they're all on the run from the men in black" is a very visual, attention-getting way to describe a game and it sounds like fun
but I see some of the fucking lunacy that diehard oldskool fans post on websites and I am fine not playing with those dudes
I think old mage's connection to at least the outer trappings of actual existing magical traditions was pretty cool and I find the atlantis stuff maybe a bit goofy
but gnosticism is great and that long play report I don't remember the name of with a PC named Kali made me really want to try Awakening
people really love to harp on atlantis and a) i don't have a problem with it, perhaps because I wasn't conditioned to have a problem with it but also b) it is 100% in line with all the reading i've done about the theosophical society, Mu enthusiasts, and a certain very specific history of real-life occult thought that maybe a lot of gamers have not been exposed to
Don't get me wrong I haven't actually played either game and am in no way a committed edition warrior, as a Dane I will try to claim neutrality and sell pork and dairy products to both sides.
also, as someone who's read a bunch about weird religious stuff and whose siblings and some friends went to Steiner schools and kindergartens (anthroposophy) I have been exposed to at least some of that stuff and also irl found it silly in a way I do not with eg shamanism or voodoo. I don't pretend this is a fair or rational distinction.
But tbh I think the Atlantis bit in the game mostly sounded silly when I first heard of it without really having read much of or about the game myself. The actual play session you got me reading really made me like the way they've done the setting a lot more.
speaking of edgy RPGs Varg Vikernes has released his shitty generic fantasy RPG and setting that is very thinly veiled Nazi propaganda (with Muslim and Jewish fantasy stand-in cultures that worship awful evil gods. . .)
releasing an RPG is the least black metal thing I can think of doing
in scandinavia at least the overlap between metal fans and rpg fans is pretty big
Indeed, it just ins't in keeping with the whatever the BM equivalent of kayfabe is
Or non-Kayfabe in the case of Vikernes.
I AM GOING TO BLOW UP THE ANARCHISTS
once I finish stat balancing my rpg system
world of darkness edition wars are the stupidest shit
i got into this stuff late so I'm not really invested in how it ought to be the way some are
I think Old Mage gets the edge in terms of like, really clear visual iconography? "this guy is a voodoo, this guy is a catholic priest, this lady is wiccan, and they're all on the run from the men in black" is a very visual, attention-getting way to describe a game and it sounds like fun
but I see some of the fucking lunacy that diehard oldskool fans post on websites and I am fine not playing with those dudes
I think old mage's connection to at least the outer trappings of actual existing magical traditions was pretty cool and I find the atlantis stuff maybe a bit goofy
but gnosticism is great and that long play report I don't remember the name of with a PC named Kali made me really want to try Awakening
people really love to harp on atlantis and a) i don't have a problem with it, perhaps because I wasn't conditioned to have a problem with it but also b) it is 100% in line with all the reading i've done about the theosophical society, Mu enthusiasts, and a certain very specific history of real-life occult thought that maybe a lot of gamers have not been exposed to
I love it when people put down the Atlantis aspect of Mage: the Awakening.
Especially when it's like...one of the first things they write in the ST section is about how you can pretend all the Atlantis stuff is actually part of The Lie and could potentially be what's holding people back from the Supernal Realms.
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I don't really think much of the WoD games (not that they are bad but because they fall outside my indie storygaming sensibilities) but when I heard that an established part of the WoD canon is that someone blew up the underworld with the ghost of the first nuclear bomb, I was all in
world of darkness edition wars are the stupidest shit
i got into this stuff late so I'm not really invested in how it ought to be the way some are
I think Old Mage gets the edge in terms of like, really clear visual iconography? "this guy is a voodoo, this guy is a catholic priest, this lady is wiccan, and they're all on the run from the men in black" is a very visual, attention-getting way to describe a game and it sounds like fun
but I see some of the fucking lunacy that diehard oldskool fans post on websites and I am fine not playing with those dudes
I believe there 2-way are translation guides that let you use the old lore with the newer/ cleaner mechanics.
I can't even imagine the kind of iron grip an oMage GM would need to keep on their players to prevent them cracking the planet in half or something.
But tbh I think the Atlantis bit in the game mostly sounded silly when I first heard of it without really having read much of or about the game myself. The actual play session you got me reading really made me like the way they've done the setting a lot more.
Oh, I meant to link you to that again btw - it's called The Broken Diamond. (Anyone here who thought my OP sounded interesting or who just likes reading cool stories should click. this. link.)
Just got out of review for the final. Heh. I'm not going to bathe in self loathing (publicly) but I really don't understand my brain. Been trying for a while but my behaviors and outlooks are at times totally mystifying to me. Almost more bemused than upset.
I guess he really did just buy the full fascism package from the 1930s
When he was arrested for killing Euronymous he was found with a large amount of explosives and ammunition, apparently planning to blow up Blitz House, an anti-fascist punk anarchist collective at some time in the future.
But tbh I think the Atlantis bit in the game mostly sounded silly when I first heard of it without really having read much of or about the game myself. The actual play session you got me reading really made me like the way they've done the setting a lot more.
Oh, I meant to link you to that again btw - it's called The Broken Diamond. (Anyone here who thought my OP sounded interesting or who just likes reading cool stories should click. this. link.)
oh yeah I heard about that I think, him being hired
that's awesome
loved the broken diamond enough to endure reading much of it on a tiny shitty phone, will probably read the sequels sometime soon once I'm not busy being cripplingly lethargic
I'm playing dark souls 3 and playing a claymore wielding paladin guy who is like SUPER HOLY MR GOODMAN
but then I found this miracle
Dark miracle taught in the Cathedral of the Deep.
Summons insect swarm to feast on foes.
These insects which lurk in the Deep have tiny jaws lined with fangs to tear open the skin and burrow into the flesh in the blink of an eye, causing intense bleeding.
and im mightily tempted to suddenly be a fallen paladin..........
According to Steam I've played that lesbian anime game I bought 40 minutes so far. I don't really know what I think of it yet. I guess the writing seems kinda middling and I'm a little put off by the lack of interactivity - so far the game has literally just consisted of clicking through text, not a single dialogue option or anything. which is cool I guess - I don't really believe there's such a thing as an objectively correct level of interactivity. But lately what I really really crave is Telltale-style interactivity - games that are story heavy and 'on rails' and gameplay-lite but that still, like, ask you to do stuff
I guess he really did just buy the full fascism package from the 1930s
has he ever struck you as someone who would be fond of leftists
I mean no of course, I was just surprised if he had specifically talked about blowing up anarchists
there aren't that many of them!
seems like the main targets of the modern radical right is usually muslims (/'immigrants'/'terrorists') and 'cultural marxists'. Sometimes jews, for the specific kind of right wing Vikernes is down with.
world of darkness edition wars are the stupidest shit
i got into this stuff late so I'm not really invested in how it ought to be the way some are
I think Old Mage gets the edge in terms of like, really clear visual iconography? "this guy is a voodoo, this guy is a catholic priest, this lady is wiccan, and they're all on the run from the men in black" is a very visual, attention-getting way to describe a game and it sounds like fun
but I see some of the fucking lunacy that diehard oldskool fans post on websites and I am fine not playing with those dudes
I believe there 2-way are translation guides that let you use the old lore with the newer/ cleaner mechanics.
I can't even imagine the kind of iron grip an oMage GM would need to keep on their players to prevent them cracking the planet in half or something.
I definitely strongly recommend using the conversion guides for anyone who wants to run Masquerade, Ascension, Apocalypse, etc. I totally get people who prefer the old settings, but the old mechanics are just drenched in 90's-isms and you don't lose anything by porting them to a modern system, especially since the NWoD games are about 80% the same anyway. Pony has run a couple of Masquerade games with the Requiem rules and it worked great.
According to Steam I've played that lesbian anime game I bought 40 minutes so far. I don't really know what I think of it yet. I guess the writing seems kinda middling and I'm a little put off by the lack of interactivity - so far the game has literally just consisted of clicking through text, not a single dialogue option or anything. which is cool I guess - I don't really believe there's such a thing as an objectively correct level of interactivity. But lately what I really really crave is Telltale-style interactivity - games that are story heavy and 'on rails' and gameplay-lite but that still, like, ask you to do stuff
I think a bunch of the anime games on Steam are VNs which offer few to no choices.
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Indeed, it just ins't in keeping with the whatever the BM equivalent of kayfabe is
heh heh "BM equivalent"
No argument from me on this front; I just don't find it very useful to point out.
'[X] aggravates violence & crime, and we so we should address [X] as best we are able,' is something I agree with & something I think has been demonstrated repeatedly in egalitarian judicial systems (so long as [X] encompasses actual causes of crime, anyway).
'[X] is the cause of aggressive / anti-social / unwanted behavior, so we should solely focus on [X] until everyone stops being bad' is a utopian outlook that I feel doesn't square with reality, not because of some supernatural agent but because some of what we define as anti-social behavior cannot be corrected against without leveraging another tool from the anti-social behavior bucket and we cannot realistically (IMHO) operate a large society while attempting to exclude every little bit of aggravating factors (at least, certainly not a society I think most of us would want to live in).
gg
i cannot help you fake it you must embrace it
Don't get me wrong I haven't actually played either game and am in no way a committed edition warrior, as a Dane I will try to claim neutrality and sell pork and dairy products to both sides.
also, as someone who's read a bunch about weird religious stuff and whose siblings and some friends went to Steiner schools and kindergartens (anthroposophy) I have been exposed to at least some of that stuff and also irl found it silly in a way I do not with eg shamanism or voodoo. I don't pretend this is a fair or rational distinction.
But tbh I think the Atlantis bit in the game mostly sounded silly when I first heard of it without really having read much of or about the game myself. The actual play session you got me reading really made me like the way they've done the setting a lot more.
Or non-Kayfabe in the case of Vikernes.
I AM GOING TO BLOW UP THE ANARCHISTS
once I finish stat balancing my rpg system
i mean i can guess i just want to be sure
I guess he really did just buy the full fascism package from the 1930s
I love it when people put down the Atlantis aspect of Mage: the Awakening.
Especially when it's like...one of the first things they write in the ST section is about how you can pretend all the Atlantis stuff is actually part of The Lie and could potentially be what's holding people back from the Supernal Realms.
has he ever struck you as someone who would be fond of leftists
Honestly I really do need to.
I need more experience with writing female-oriented romance so I can start bringing in the lady-dollars.
I believe there 2-way are translation guides that let you use the old lore with the newer/ cleaner mechanics.
I can't even imagine the kind of iron grip an oMage GM would need to keep on their players to prevent them cracking the planet in half or something.
Oh, I meant to link you to that again btw - it's called The Broken Diamond. (Anyone here who thought my OP sounded interesting or who just likes reading cool stories should click. this. link.)
And it got two sequels! The Soul Cage and The Man Comes Around (currently ongoing)
But here's the cool part: that dude? The GM of that game? He's now the Head Developer and writer of the new edition
@jakobagger
Uh...
Welcome to Mage: the Awakening.
When he was arrested for killing Euronymous he was found with a large amount of explosives and ammunition, apparently planning to blow up Blitz House, an anti-fascist punk anarchist collective at some time in the future.
More like Unknown Armies.
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oh yeah I heard about that I think, him being hired
that's awesome
loved the broken diamond enough to endure reading much of it on a tiny shitty phone, will probably read the sequels sometime soon once I'm not busy being cripplingly lethargic
not being fucking Java would be enough sequel for me
you could have stuff like
A. a horizon
B. mountains
but then I found this miracle
and im mightily tempted to suddenly be a fallen paladin..........
@desc
I will do this thing.
I mean no of course, I was just surprised if he had specifically talked about blowing up anarchists
there aren't that many of them!
seems like the main targets of the modern radical right is usually muslims (/'immigrants'/'terrorists') and 'cultural marxists'. Sometimes jews, for the specific kind of right wing Vikernes is down with.
I definitely strongly recommend using the conversion guides for anyone who wants to run Masquerade, Ascension, Apocalypse, etc. I totally get people who prefer the old settings, but the old mechanics are just drenched in 90's-isms and you don't lose anything by porting them to a modern system, especially since the NWoD games are about 80% the same anyway. Pony has run a couple of Masquerade games with the Requiem rules and it worked great.
I think a bunch of the anime games on Steam are VNs which offer few to no choices.
A boy and his porp
maybe i'm streaming terrible dj right now if i am its here
most places though, anarchists are a small fraction of a general leftist movement dominated by democratic socialists and greens