The Post US Presidential Election 2016 Thread

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The election is over! Trump won! No one has the energy for a long OP today!

Keep it cool guys. I know everyone is hurting but let's try to be excellent to each other.

Maddoc

Since it got cut off by the death of the last thread

Mandate is a purely theoretical construct that assumes elected representatives actually represent the will of their constituents

Which is a really quaint and optimistic idea

Jedoc

#pipe

I still just can't believe it

Somestickguy

https://twitter.com/FunPunditry/status/796276884157976578

Oh boy

I look forward to dealing with this in the classic British way, by watching a very clever person complain about it in a funny way

Bucketman

Appearently there is a non zero number of Trump supporters who seem to think that if they kill Obama now then Trump can move into the White House earlier. Thankfully it seems to just be some crazies on 4chan but really people? Fuck off.

WeedLordVegeta

Contract your local Democratic Office, ask what you can do.
Look for volunteer opportunities.
Look after your own, especially the marginalized.
Grieve how you need to, for how long you need to, but the work is waiting for you.

bowen

#pipe wrote: »

I still just can't believe it

It's rough.

This is rough.

Brolo

well

fuck

autono-wally, erotibot300

http://www.the-postillon.com/2016/11/nuclear-codes-lost.html

Wednesday, 9 November 2016
Oops! Obama lost all nuclear codes overnight

I wish

A Dabble Of Thelonius

I really like the purple & black combo she's rocking.

Talking about peaceful transfer of of power and we owe the president a chance to lead. Then straight to come out in 2 years. Goddammit, she would have been great. Fuck

Just over here being teary eyed at work.

Death of Rats

I feel like this speech is a eulogy for our country.

Zombie Hero

A Dabble Of Thelonius wrote: »

I really like the purple & black combo she's rocking.

Talking about peaceful transfer of of power and we owe the president a chance to lead. Then straight to come out in 2 years. Goddammit, she would have been great. Fuck

Just over here being teary eyed at work.

I didn't even have the resolve to watch. I will probably get around to watching it tomorrow or the day after.

WeedLordVegeta

gonna use this thread to dump whatever I can find that could aid people in the coming weeks

https://twitter.com/Chemzes/status/796386114491809792

autono-wally, erotibot300

Clinton would've been perfect after Obama, to cement some of the progress he made socially.

DarkPrimus

http://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2016/11/emotional-highs-and-lows-from-a-historic-election-night/507080/

This picture from there sums it up, I think.

Brovid Hasselsmof

I think I'm going to join a political party for the first time. It won't help America and it might not even make any difference in the UK, but I've got a nephew being born today and I need to feel like I'm doing something to try and slow the ruin of his future.

autono-wally, erotibot300

Death of Rats wrote: »

I feel like this speech is a eulogy for our country.

You had a good run and even a somewhat high note at the end there with Obama.

OmnipotentBagel

Also something that got cut off in the last thread: Don't push Jon Stewart for summer slam 2020. The dude retired from The Daily Show because he couldn't take the political bullshit anymore and he just wants to live a peaceful life. He deserves it, don't take that from him. (I know no one's legitimately pushing him, but I feel bad for the guy every time that comes up, as that's the last thing he must want).

-Tal

The republic will survive, I'm sure

A lot of individuals along the way won't though

Jephery

Any French? Frexit is the next global battleground.

Frexit is the last domino left. If it falls, the EU is done, the west is done. Everyone go home.

Mr. G

Krieghund

How do you fail an IQ test, America?

Oghulk

Don't stay silent.

Pony

America elected an actual dictator, and is now in a slow slide towards a dictatorship.

The only resistance towards it is internal, how much of the system itself resists the man.

Given that the Republicans control the entire government, I'm gonna go with "not much"

I am so afraid right now.

Oghulk

I hope the courts are ready for some real constitutional tests in the coming years.

A Dabble Of Thelonius

Zombie Hero wrote: »

A Dabble Of Thelonius wrote: »

I really like the purple & black combo she's rocking.

Talking about peaceful transfer of of power and we owe the president a chance to lead. Then straight to come out in 2 years. Goddammit, she would have been great. Fuck

Just over here being teary eyed at work.

I didn't even have the resolve to watch. I will probably get around to watching it tomorrow or the day after.

It was quite beautiful. And painful.

RawrBear

Welp, at least stock markets didn't crash this morning, despite all the freaking out international markets did last night.

SyphonBlue

Oghulk wrote: »

I hope the courts are ready for some real constitutional tests in the coming years.

They're going to be helmed by Trump's SC Justice

So....they aren't

autono-wally, erotibot300

Jephery wrote: »

Any French? Frexit is the next global battleground.

Frexit is the last domino left. If it falls, the EU is done, the west is done. Everyone go home.

France has a real problem because they have absolutely not done enough to integrate minorities.

They would have to straight up elect elect the "national front" TotallyNotNazis for a Frexit though, I think? France are still not fans of Nazis as a whole for some reason

DrDinosaur

From early exit polls it seems like the end result was driven by a handful of factors:
Trump's inflammatory rhetoric not reducing his support or boosting opposition as much as expected
Low voter turnout overall, but particularly among minorities when compared to their support for Obama
Trump's populist, "everything is broken and I am the only one who can fix it," message strongly resonated with older, whiter, and richer demographics

How do the Democrats get together and combat this in the next two to four years? Because it seems like one of the strongest options is to find a charismatic individual who can channel the energy of Obama into another "Hope and Change" message. I don't know if strong policy can help a candidate anymore; the only thing that matters is how strongly they can sell their message.

mcp

So I guess in 2019 there's a referendum in California to secede from the union.

Narbus

Jephery wrote: »

Any French? Frexit is the next global battleground.

Frexit is the last domino left. If it falls, the EU is done, the west is done. Everyone go home.

It's called adiEU.

A Dabble Of Thelonius

With the way media works now, showmanship as electability is the natural evolution.

wirehead26

My friend gave a compelling argument on Oprah eventually running.

nightmarenny

SyphonBlue wrote: »

Oghulk wrote: »

I hope the courts are ready for some real constitutional tests in the coming years.

They're going to be helmed by Trump's SC Justice

So....they aren't

Maybe I'm wrong in this but it seems to me that puts us pretty much where we were when Scalia died.

I know Scalia may have reached across the ail once or twice but he wasn't the only one.

And also forgive me if I'm wrong but I know that there are Republicans in the house who are more moderate. Maybe not as many as we'd like because of the tea party but some. There have been congressmen who won't vote down Obamacare unless it can be replaced by something the deem good enough. Maybe none of thats good enough but I don't see the point in throwing in the towel.

Wyvern

autono-wally, erotibot300 wrote: »

Jephery wrote: »

Any French? Frexit is the next global battleground.

Frexit is the last domino left. If it falls, the EU is done, the west is done. Everyone go home.

France has a real problem because they have absolutely not done enough to integrate minorities.

Well. I'm sure they THINK they have. But their idea of integration seems to be "abandon every last shred of your disgusting so-called 'culture' or get out of my fucking sight."

FF

mcp wrote: »

So I guess in 2019 there's a referendum in California to secede from the union.

No way it actually passes, but...I'd be ok with giving a large swath of the US (including most of my in-laws) the middle finger. Also, I'd totally let ya'll crash at my place.

rhylith

Rankenphile wrote:

Look - if we're just going to start electing loudmouth celebrities with no history of public service, if that's just a thing we can do now, when do I get to vote for John Stewart?

I know this was probably a joke but I bet he could win.

Maximum

wirehead26 wrote: »

My friend gave a compelling argument on Oprah eventually running.

Man, if you thought the attacks on Hillary were bad...

I cannot even begin to imagine.

-Tal

mcp wrote: »

So I guess in 2019 there's a referendum in California to secede from the union.

This feels relevant to marco rogers' twitter thread about how white liberals form enclaves

https://twitter.com/polotek/status/796354824983842816