I barely played the original, clearing 1-1 and rage quitting from 1-2, and I’m just about back to that point. Relatively blind after that, so I’m very excited about it!
What’d everyone make this time?
I’d started off making a male with no particular class in mind, but after seeing the preset faces I just had to make an 80 year old female Barbarian.
I can see being disappointed in some choices that were made. I even agree with some of the disappointment.
But my overall sentiment is one of just...happiness that we got a remake at all. I even wish they had pushed the envelope further with changes in some areas. Like adding more events for pure white/pure black world tendency, lean harder into that, ya know. It's one of the most unique things about this game, I want more of that.
I did 3-1 today and I forgot how much fun it is to be summoned in for that boss fight. I got totally owned by someone using a Great Sword who was clearly a PvP pro from the old PS3 days.
I forgot how much of an absolute maze the Tower of Latria is. Oh also, there are new achievements for doing things the hard way. Spoiler for 2-1 boss and 3-1 level achievements:
I got a trophy for dodging all the way across the bridge in 3-1 instead of shutting it down the easy way.
I also saw there's a trophy for Tower Knight. Probably for killing him without killing any archers?
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I'm so mad at him for not giving us a standalone extended version:
I got my barb enough str to 1h the bastard sword and gave it a couple upgrades after 1-2. I’m not 100% in love with the move set, but the power of it feels very fitting. Barb smash.
I got my barb enough str to 1h the bastard sword and gave it a couple upgrades after 1-2. I’m not 100% in love with the move set, but the power of it feels very fitting. Barb smash.
Assuming they didn't move stuff around, might want to consider looking around 1-2 for the claymore.
Unless they changed it, its sold by the vendor at the very end of the tunnel under the bridge
Very slightly weaker but way longer, which matters even more in DeS with the lack of poise and limited hyperarmor.
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I got my barb enough str to 1h the bastard sword and gave it a couple upgrades after 1-2. I’m not 100% in love with the move set, but the power of it feels very fitting. Barb smash.
Assuming they didn't move stuff around, might want to consider looking around 1-2 for the claymore.
Unless they changed it, its sold by the vendor at the very end of the tunnel under the bridge
Very slightly weaker but way longer, which matters even more in DeS with the lack of poise and limited hyperarmor.
Does the Claymore in DeS have the same wide swing/long stab moveset it has in all the other Soulsborne games? (in BB it's Ludwig's Holy Blade, but still, the formchange weapon with the scabbard has the same Claymore moveset if I remember right).
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I got my barb enough str to 1h the bastard sword and gave it a couple upgrades after 1-2. I’m not 100% in love with the move set, but the power of it feels very fitting. Barb smash.
Assuming they didn't move stuff around, might want to consider looking around 1-2 for the claymore.
Unless they changed it, its sold by the vendor at the very end of the tunnel under the bridge
Very slightly weaker but way longer, which matters even more in DeS with the lack of poise and limited hyperarmor.
Does the Claymore in DeS have the same wide swing/long stab moveset it has in all the other Soulsborne games? (in BB it's Ludwig's Holy Blade, but still, the formchange weapon with the scabbard has the same Claymore moveset if I remember right).
I think it's wide swing light attack and a heavy overhead swing, but I wouldn't swear to it. edit: I looked it up and yeah, overhead for the heavy.
I've been slowly working my way through the game, doing 1 or 2 levels a night. Just beat Old Hero last night.
Making a standard quality build to start rocking a quality Uchigatana. Might switch to Meat Cleaver or Great Axe at some point, but I just like the katana movesets so much!
Do the DS3 dogs actually teleport? 🐶6:34 https://youtu.be/t4P82TRY_oY Time to finally test the rumors that these dogs have the power to bend time and space! Heh, nothing personal Miyazaki...
Do the DS3 dogs actually teleport? 🐶6:34 https://youtu.be/t4P82TRY_oY Time to finally test the rumors that these dogs have the power to bend time and space! Heh, nothing personal Miyazaki...
Without looking at the video, isn't the problem that enemies out of sight in Souls games don't have their height properly tracked which can cause weird shit to happen with something that moves like the dogs?
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How does Demon Souls actually compare to all the modern Miyazaki (Dark Souls and up) games? Lorewise and gameplay.
I played it waaaaaaay back in the day when it had a demo disc but don't remember much except burning to death over and over again.
I can't speak to the remake but the original was very much the first dark souls game in every way
dark souls 1 is "demon's souls 2 but sony owns the IP so we need to change the name for bandai-namco and to sell it on other platforms"
Rolling has been fixed, the weapon upgrade system seems to be identical in every way. The only changes they made were cosmetic. They also added some new armor sets in places and added a secret or two, but everything else seems to be identical to the original game, for better and worse.
I wish they would have taken this opportunity to add more things, but I can also see how they would be wary of messing with the original vision.
Gameplay-wise, it's very much a souls game. It was the pioneer, after all. Most of the bosses are closer to combat puzzles than anything else, where Dark Souls had more of a "git gud" mentality with the bosses. SOME of the bosses in Demon's Souls are like that, but they are the exception. Since there is no estus flask, you rely on healing grasses that you have to farm in order to heal. Some people hate this, it's a little annoying but there are farming spots that seem to be have been intentionally placed to get you lots of grasses quicker.
I can say it's an absolutely gorgeous remaster. Bluepoint has their own vision for the world and everything and they added a shitload of detail, even doing things like changing architectural styles of some of the levels. They succeed far more than they fail, you just hear more about the design failures.
If you can manage to get a PS5, you should play this game. It's real good.
I don't agree. The facial animations are universally amazing in this game, though I haven't done Satsuki's quest yet. Patches especially is hilarious how much he over-emotes.
Its hard to care about builds when all you want is a fast roll and a sword or a knife.
I've started Dark Souls Remastered, made a Thief with a Master Key, and realized I've done all this before.
Oh nice, I’d found that guy but wasn’t considering new weapons at the time. I’ll swing back and check it out.
I went back for the claymore and it was worth it. The extra length is nice, and didn’t take too much grinding to catch back up in dmg.
Thanks for the tip Kamar!
Claymore is great in literally every souls game isnt it?
You know...I love the claymore in every game, but greatswords tend to feel a bit weak in PvE in my opinion. Don't hit harder enough vs much slower they are, and don't have enough extra poise damage to make up for it. You're almost always better off using a straight sword for dps and speed, or an ultra greatsword to chain stagger and because of the way high AR bypasses defense disproportionately.
Halberds tend to be way better as a middle-weight weapon than greatswords.
Except maybe in DS3, since you can use the three enemy-type bonus damage greatswords and the 2h poise activation to good effect there.
Oh nice, I’d found that guy but wasn’t considering new weapons at the time. I’ll swing back and check it out.
I went back for the claymore and it was worth it. The extra length is nice, and didn’t take too much grinding to catch back up in dmg.
Thanks for the tip Kamar!
Claymore is great in literally every souls game isnt it?
You know...I love the claymore in every game, but greatswords tend to feel a bit weak in PvE in my opinion. Don't hit harder enough vs much slower they are, and don't have enough extra poise damage to make up for it. You're almost always better off using a straight sword for dps and speed, or an ultra greatsword to chain stagger and because of the way high AR bypasses defense disproportionately.
Halberds tend to be way better as a middle-weight weapon than greatswords.
Except maybe in DS3, since you can use the three enemy-type bonus damage greatswords and the 2h poise activation to good effect there.
Was gonna say
My latest run in DS3 is using a Sharp Lothric Knight GS and it's currently hitting for 500 on R1
THWOCK bzap
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Also, I found the secret to cheesing PVP in DS3
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Oh nice, I’d found that guy but wasn’t considering new weapons at the time. I’ll swing back and check it out.
I went back for the claymore and it was worth it. The extra length is nice, and didn’t take too much grinding to catch back up in dmg.
Thanks for the tip Kamar!
Claymore is great in literally every souls game isnt it?
For my usual build, which is "magic+ a little bit of everything else", I find the Claymore ideal both because of its requirements as well as its moveset, specifically, a nice wide arc in front with R1, and a long range stab for R2. Any weapon that has that moveset usually finds its way into at least being tried in the rotation; there's some katanas as well as longswords with the same thing but not the reach that the Claymore has. Enchant it to key off Int and tada, far-reaching magic sword for my Jack-of-all-Trades builds.
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What’d everyone make this time?
I’d started off making a male with no particular class in mind, but after seeing the preset faces I just had to make an 80 year old female Barbarian.
I can do that for sequels no problem. New game, new attitude.
I can do that for remakes that don't even try to be faithful but go their own way.
But when they have tried so obviously hard to be as faithful as possible, when there are clear missteps, it sticks out like a sore thumb.
I'll play it and enjoy it. But they wont ever stop being a niggle.
But my overall sentiment is one of just...happiness that we got a remake at all. I even wish they had pushed the envelope further with changes in some areas. Like adding more events for pure white/pure black world tendency, lean harder into that, ya know. It's one of the most unique things about this game, I want more of that.
obviously live instruments are better but i miss the focused, sparse instrumentation on the original
yeah changing the sparseness is a huge divergence in the tone it sets
I forgot how much of an absolute maze the Tower of Latria is. Oh also, there are new achievements for doing things the hard way. Spoiler for 2-1 boss and 3-1 level achievements:
I also saw there's a trophy for Tower Knight. Probably for killing him without killing any archers?
Give it to me....GIVE IT!
Assuming they didn't move stuff around, might want to consider looking around 1-2 for the claymore.
Very slightly weaker but way longer, which matters even more in DeS with the lack of poise and limited hyperarmor.
Does the Claymore in DeS have the same wide swing/long stab moveset it has in all the other Soulsborne games? (in BB it's Ludwig's Holy Blade, but still, the formchange weapon with the scabbard has the same Claymore moveset if I remember right).
I think it's wide swing light attack and a heavy overhead swing, but I wouldn't swear to it. edit: I looked it up and yeah, overhead for the heavy.
Making a standard quality build to start rocking a quality Uchigatana. Might switch to Meat Cleaver or Great Axe at some point, but I just like the katana movesets so much!
Time to finally test the rumors that these dogs have the power to bend time and space! Heh, nothing personal Miyazaki...
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They also made it dead-ass silent until you get to Garl Vinland.
There's no melancholy at all in the music they went with and it's the first thing I'm mad at the remake for doing.
Without looking at the video, isn't the problem that enemies out of sight in Souls games don't have their height properly tracked which can cause weird shit to happen with something that moves like the dogs?
I played it waaaaaaay back in the day when it had a demo disc but don't remember much except burning to death over and over again.
gameplay is somewhat jank but if rolling and the upgrade system are fixed in the remake those are my big complaints
it's up there with bloodborne in terms of atmosphere, which i think is the real draw
dark souls 1 is "demon's souls 2 but sony owns the IP so we need to change the name for bandai-namco and to sell it on other platforms"
I wish they would have taken this opportunity to add more things, but I can also see how they would be wary of messing with the original vision.
Gameplay-wise, it's very much a souls game. It was the pioneer, after all. Most of the bosses are closer to combat puzzles than anything else, where Dark Souls had more of a "git gud" mentality with the bosses. SOME of the bosses in Demon's Souls are like that, but they are the exception. Since there is no estus flask, you rely on healing grasses that you have to farm in order to heal. Some people hate this, it's a little annoying but there are farming spots that seem to be have been intentionally placed to get you lots of grasses quicker.
I can say it's an absolutely gorgeous remaster. Bluepoint has their own vision for the world and everything and they added a shitload of detail, even doing things like changing architectural styles of some of the levels. They succeed far more than they fail, you just hear more about the design failures.
If you can manage to get a PS5, you should play this game. It's real good.
certain amount + extra spawns per boss defeated in that region
Also, a lot of the new character facials expressions are kind of yikes, especially Satsuki.
I went back for the claymore and it was worth it. The extra length is nice, and didn’t take too much grinding to catch back up in dmg.
Thanks for the tip Kamar!
Fixed that for you
I've started Dark Souls Remastered, made a Thief with a Master Key, and realized I've done all this before.
Claymore is great in literally every souls game isnt it?
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You know...I love the claymore in every game, but greatswords tend to feel a bit weak in PvE in my opinion. Don't hit harder enough vs much slower they are, and don't have enough extra poise damage to make up for it. You're almost always better off using a straight sword for dps and speed, or an ultra greatsword to chain stagger and because of the way high AR bypasses defense disproportionately.
Halberds tend to be way better as a middle-weight weapon than greatswords.
Except maybe in DS3, since you can use the three enemy-type bonus damage greatswords and the 2h poise activation to good effect there.
Sweet spot mechanics are pretty punishing in DS2 iirc.
Was gonna say
My latest run in DS3 is using a Sharp Lothric Knight GS and it's currently hitting for 500 on R1
THWOCK bzap
Whips
For my usual build, which is "magic+ a little bit of everything else", I find the Claymore ideal both because of its requirements as well as its moveset, specifically, a nice wide arc in front with R1, and a long range stab for R2. Any weapon that has that moveset usually finds its way into at least being tried in the rotation; there's some katanas as well as longswords with the same thing but not the reach that the Claymore has. Enchant it to key off Int and tada, far-reaching magic sword for my Jack-of-all-Trades builds.