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[Michael Cohen] Cohen cooperating conditionally, could connect POTUS

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    No-QuarterNo-Quarter Nothing To Fear But Fear ItselfRegistered User regular
    august wrote: »
    For some reason I don’t think Mike’s holding out for a pardon anymore.

    It's a wise decision, to be honest.

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    MolotovCockatooMolotovCockatoo Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    Where did Lanny Davis come from prior to Cohen association? I swear I've seen that name before.

    Clinton’s impeachment defense lawyer (not kidding)

    Killjoy wrote: »
    No jeez Orik why do you assume the worst about people?

    Because he moderates an internet forum

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    DedmanWalkinDedmanWalkin Registered User regular
    So, does this mean we can now start calling Trump, "alleged criminal President Trump" without any legal liability? Should we just have all the news outlets start referring to him as such?

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited August 2018

    Preacher wrote: »
    Where did Lanny Davis come from prior to Cohen association? I swear I've seen that name before.

    He was Bill Clinton's lawyer

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    Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    So It Goes wrote: »
    How have they not dropped this civil case yet

    Why would they drop it?

    I was under the (apparently mistaken) impression that the civil case was Trump suing for breach of NDA, and that there was a separate countersuit from Stormy that could be dropped if the NDA breach suit was dropped first.

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    Desktop HippieDesktop Hippie Registered User regular
    It would appear from the photo used in conjunction with this headline that CBS News is struggling to keep up with everything that’s been happening today.

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    MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    Oh god reality is imploding into itself isn't it.

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    AtomikaAtomika Live fast and get fucked or whatever Registered User regular
    It would appear from the photo used in conjunction with this headline that CBS News is struggling to keep up with everything that’s been happening today.


    The obvious conclusion is that Manafort is wearing a rubber mask and is actually either Cohen, Trump, or one of women.

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    Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    I feel like that’s some dark humor reference to how the Cohen plea eclipsed Manafort being found guilty on 44% of the charges against him

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    ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    I feel like with manafort now guilty in a court of law, it leads perfectly into this news. Cohen was facing so much time, on much more obvious and brazen charges is my feeling. And he knows way more about trump, and is more directly involved with trump.

    why does this feel so perfectly like a specific part of a movie genre. Like the montage where everyone starts turning on the wolf of wall street character

    does this only exempt him from certain crimes? Is he still on the hook for anything or is this a catchall immunity? Cos he must have something seriously big for them to wave all of his nonsense

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    MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    Prohass wrote: »
    I feel like with manafort now guilty in a court of law, it leads perfectly into this news. Cohen was facing so much time, on much more obvious and brazen charges is my feeling. And he knows way more about trump, and is more directly involved with trump.

    why does this feel so perfectly like a specific part of a movie genre. Like the montage where everyone starts turning on the wolf of wall street character

    does this only exempt him from certain crimes? Is he still on the hook for anything or is this a catchall immunity? Cos he must have something seriously big for them to wave all of his nonsense

    I feel like he may have realized Trump wasn't going to help him anymore, and figured he'd do less time if he accepted it.

    He might have been right.

    There's no plan, there's no race to be run
    The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
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    WACriminalWACriminal Dying Is Easy, Young Man Living Is HarderRegistered User regular
    The president's attorney just gave sworn testimony that he was directed to commit a felony by the president.

    ...sorry, I just had to type that out so I could check it for errors. Holy fuck.

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    shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    edited August 2018
    Prohass wrote: »
    I feel like with manafort now guilty in a court of law, it leads perfectly into this news. Cohen was facing so much time, on much more obvious and brazen charges is my feeling. And he knows way more about trump, and is more directly involved with trump.

    why does this feel so perfectly like a specific part of a movie genre. Like the montage where everyone starts turning on the wolf of wall street character

    does this only exempt him from certain crimes? Is he still on the hook for anything or is this a catchall immunity? Cos he must have something seriously big for them to wave all of his nonsense

    Manafort is pretty important in that he's directly connected to Trump's Russia involvement. It's just that not what the case of his that just finished was about.

    Cohen seems to be more related to Trump's general everyday criminal activity.

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    augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited August 2018
    Really wondering what Lindsey Graham and other Republicans who have been trying to walk the line on this shit will have to say tomorrow.

    august on
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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    august wrote: »
    Really wondering what Lindsey Graham and other Republicans who have been trying to walk the line on this shit will have to say tomorrow.

    Something cowardly, craven, and spineless, presumably.

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    CelestialBadgerCelestialBadger Registered User regular
    august wrote: »
    Really wondering what Lindsey Graham and other Republicans who have been trying to walk the line on this shit will have to say tomorrow.

    Very, very little, I’m assuming.

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    ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    august wrote: »
    Really wondering what Lindsey Graham and other Republicans who have been trying to walk the line on this shit will have to say tomorrow.

    Something cowardly, craven, and spineless, presumably.

    you win a prize

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    Monsieur TMonsieur T Registered User regular
    august wrote: »
    Really wondering what Lindsey Graham and other Republicans who have been trying to walk the line on this shit will have to say tomorrow.

    No offense, but I've never wondered what Lindsay Graham had to say about anything.

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    SeñorAmorSeñorAmor !!! Registered User regular
    august wrote: »
    Really wondering what Lindsey Graham and other Republicans who have been trying to walk the line on this shit will have to say tomorrow.

    "Eh. It's just locker room treason. No big."

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    Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    In a way I’m glad we’re all being honest that campaign finance violations don’t mean shit

    Of course there’s also some delicious irony in the “family values” party ignoring the reason for those violations

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    MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    Elendil wrote: »
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    august wrote: »
    Really wondering what Lindsey Graham and other Republicans who have been trying to walk the line on this shit will have to say tomorrow.

    Something cowardly, craven, and spineless, presumably.

    you win a prize


    Later, when collusion is proven: "Well, the campaign finance stuff didn't matter, why would this?"

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    ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    it's so exhausting. our expectations for this administration started so low, and have been getting lower and lower all along to the point where i'm no longer sure we have the capacity to be sufficiently shocked to do anything about it. the goalposts are gonna keep moving.

    at best all we can do is hope to grind down his approval rating enough to overcome the electoral disadvantage enough to eke out a narrow win

    yuck

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    ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    edited August 2018
    MuddBudd wrote: »
    Elendil wrote: »
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    august wrote: »
    Really wondering what Lindsey Graham and other Republicans who have been trying to walk the line on this shit will have to say tomorrow.

    Something cowardly, craven, and spineless, presumably.

    you win a prize


    Later, when collusion is proven: "Well, the campaign finance stuff didn't matter, why would this?"

    Breaking the law falls into partisan camps now

    "I don't know what will come from breaking campaign finance law" HOW ABOUT CHARGES FOR BREAKING CAMPAIGN FINANCE LAW

    Oh that will just fall into partisan camps. Because we're going to put it into partisan camps. It's not so much a fall as a controlled drop

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    SyphonBlueSyphonBlue The studying beaver That beaver sure loves studying!Registered User regular
    edited August 2018
    Elendil wrote: »
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    august wrote: »
    Really wondering what Lindsey Graham and other Republicans who have been trying to walk the line on this shit will have to say tomorrow.

    Something cowardly, craven, and spineless, presumably.

    you win a prize


    This one's even worse/more craven



    It's not Donald Trump's fault his campaign manager was a criminal! It's the government's!

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    Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    “Thanks Obama”

    -some asshole from South Carolina, probably

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    Mr KhanMr Khan Not Everyone WAHHHRegistered User regular
    august wrote: »
    For some reason I don’t think Mike’s holding out for a pardon anymore.

    Perhaps he's holding out for a pardon in true Trumpworld fashion: "pardon me or I'll spill more dirt."

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    joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    edited August 2018
    Moving this from the Mueller thread. Omarosa is dropping a video of Michael Cohen tonight, according to New York Times reporter Kenneth Vogel.


    God, this is fucking annoying.

    Either give your evidence to the special prosecutor and let him use it as he will, or just show us everything you’ve got all at once if you’re determined to make it public.

    The slow trickle of recordings is just 100% designed to keep all eyes on Omarosa for as long as possible.

    Fucking reality TV stars.

    http://www.imgur.com/8YkfcVt

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    CelestialBadgerCelestialBadger Registered User regular
    If Omarosa had anything, she’d have shown it first.

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    ZekZek Registered User regular
    edited August 2018
    This is really fascinating, Cohen's lawyer paints the picture of a man who is truly repentant, has realized how dangerous Trump truly is, and has determined to fix it by taking him down. Of course I don't quite believe all that, but from Cohen's perspective as a deeply corrupt man who is caught dead to rights, I can see some appeal of just confessing to everything to end all the stress and do something good for a change.

    Realistically? He's just in it for the best plea bargain and his lawyer is spinning bullshit for publicity. And of course Cohen is furious that Trump left him out to dry. But maybe, just maybe, the truth is somewhere in between. It's okay to feel some optimism now and then everybody.

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    SyphonBlueSyphonBlue The studying beaver That beaver sure loves studying!Registered User regular
    If Omarosa had anything, she’d have shown it first.

    It was literally just a five second video of Cohen getting on Trump's plane in September 2016. I don't think he even said anything.

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    If you wonder how the right wing news media is justifying this, Fox News has you covered:

    Let he who has not committed campaign finance violations cast the first stone.

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    joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    Break campaign finance law, bro

    All the cool kids are doing it

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    CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    "Everybody's doing it." How elementary school.

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    You know who didn't break campaign finance law? The other candidate.

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    HeirHeir Ausitn, TXRegistered User regular
    Cantido wrote: »
    "Everybody's doing it." How elementary school.

    Seriously this excuse doesn't fly with my toddler.

    Can I get off this ride now? I think I'm done.

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    Monsieur TMonsieur T Registered User regular
    I am so greatful that the "what about" defense does not yet hold up in a court of law.

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    joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    The main difference between Republican campaign finance law violations and Democratic ones is the former exists.

    The other difference is that the former are proven in actual courts instead of just being hollered about on TV.

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    OldSlackerOldSlacker Registered User regular
    I am still trying to understand what the fuck happened with Alan Dershowitz in these last few years that became such an aggressive defender of Trump.

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    CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    Couscous wrote: »
    If you wonder how the right wing news media is justifying this, Fox News has you covered:

    Let he who has not committed campaign finance violations cast the first stone.

    Can you believe these fucking people? Trying to elevate felonies into like, felonies! The fucking nerve!

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    Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    I am still trying to understand what the fuck happened with Alan Dershowitz in these last few years that became such an aggressive defender of Trump.

    Reality TV bros. They bonded over their pathological need for cable news coverage.

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