I don't think the movie division ever had any intention of making it a two-way street. The TV shows acknowledge the movies but the movies are the flagship and they only do what they want to do.
It made total sense for Agents of SHIELD to want to get as much of that selling power as they could from the movies, but after Cap 2 they were cut off from the ongoing plot by virtue of, well, SHIELD being blown up, and also Agents of SHIELD's declining ratings made guest starring on it the sort of thing the movie stars likely couldn't be bothered with. Also logistically it must have been a nightmare. After the first season's terrific payoff of SHIELD/Hydra every bit of crossover was cursory or incidental. And honestly the later seasons of the show were better for hiving themselves off.
The Netflix stuff was always, I thought, supposed to be its own thing. Street level heroes that would have great crossover with each other but little to none with the other elements of the MCU. Tonally they were consistent with each other, not the movies.
The Netflix stuff made sense there too because (for various reasons including budgetary) they went with a very low-level, low-stakes approach which makes it actually fairly easy to avoid the necessity of any sort of cross-pollination with the films. Nobody in the films would now or even give a shit about anything that is going on in the Netflix shows and none of the characters involved in the Netflix shows is gonna be rolling with the Avengers.
They feel separate because there are things going on that heavily impact the world of the MCU, but which are never mentioned. There are a good dozen films which had profound, earth shattering events that people would at least sometimes mention in passing, but which just aren't.
Which is fine and all, but it just basically takes place in an alternate universe where the MCU films never happened, aside from the first Avengers.
I'm not sure there's been much of anything that went on in the MCU that would be all that relevant to the Netflix shows after the first Avengers movie. (up until Avengers 3 obviously)
Not directly relevant, but still things that happen that people would talk about. Think about how things like the Berlin wall falling, or Nixon, or Vietnam, or Trump, or the Challenger explosion, or Forrest Gump, or a thousand other things don't directly affect anyone, but are part of our collective consciousness and get referenced in every day conversation. Or how people occasionally talk about current events, what wars are going on, current political happenings.
In the MCU, there has been an explosion of aliens, superheroes, and wizards. The MCU equivalent of the NSA was found to be a front for secret Nazis. An entire city in Africa was lifted out of the ground, sent halfway to space, and almost blew up the world. The world governments made it illegal to be a superhero without registering.
These sorts of things would come up in conversation occasionally, at least in passing. But they don't.
wait, are you talking about sokovia, the city in eastern europe?
I don't think the movie division ever had any intention of making it a two-way street. The TV shows acknowledge the movies but the movies are the flagship and they only do what they want to do.
It made total sense for Agents of SHIELD to want to get as much of that selling power as they could from the movies, but after Cap 2 they were cut off from the ongoing plot by virtue of, well, SHIELD being blown up, and also Agents of SHIELD's declining ratings made guest starring on it the sort of thing the movie stars likely couldn't be bothered with. Also logistically it must have been a nightmare. After the first season's terrific payoff of SHIELD/Hydra every bit of crossover was cursory or incidental. And honestly the later seasons of the show were better for hiving themselves off.
The Netflix stuff was always, I thought, supposed to be its own thing. Street level heroes that would have great crossover with each other but little to none with the other elements of the MCU. Tonally they were consistent with each other, not the movies.
The Netflix stuff made sense there too because (for various reasons including budgetary) they went with a very low-level, low-stakes approach which makes it actually fairly easy to avoid the necessity of any sort of cross-pollination with the films. Nobody in the films would now or even give a shit about anything that is going on in the Netflix shows and none of the characters involved in the Netflix shows is gonna be rolling with the Avengers.
They feel separate because there are things going on that heavily impact the world of the MCU, but which are never mentioned. There are a good dozen films which had profound, earth shattering events that people would at least sometimes mention in passing, but which just aren't.
Which is fine and all, but it just basically takes place in an alternate universe where the MCU films never happened, aside from the first Avengers.
I'm not sure there's been much of anything that went on in the MCU that would be all that relevant to the Netflix shows after the first Avengers movie. (up until Avengers 3 obviously)
Not directly relevant, but still things that happen that people would talk about. Think about how things like the Berlin wall falling, or Nixon, or Vietnam, or Trump, or the Challenger explosion, or Forrest Gump, or a thousand other things don't directly affect anyone, but are part of our collective consciousness and get referenced in every day conversation. Or how people occasionally talk about current events, what wars are going on, current political happenings.
In the MCU, there has been an explosion of aliens, superheroes, and wizards. The MCU equivalent of the NSA was found to be a front for secret Nazis. An entire city in Africa was lifted out of the ground, sent halfway to space, and almost blew up the world. The world governments made it illegal to be a superhero without registering.
These sorts of things would come up in conversation occasionally, at least in passing. But they don't.
I mean, I guess. But they would ultimately just be throw away references. Which I think would be better but it wouldn't like fundamentally alter anything going on in the Netflix shows.
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I enjoy the Seven Deadly Sins, it's not great but it's ok. However, while I'm not prudish at all and love cheesecake as much as anyone, the second season seems even more problematic than the first regarding Melonidas' actions towards Elizabeth. He's just flat out openly groping or group groping her in front of others when she's not comfortable with it.
Yeah, I didn't watch far into season 2 for just this reason. I really enjoyed the first season, had some real The Slayers vibes going on. But no thanks.
I don't think the movie division ever had any intention of making it a two-way street. The TV shows acknowledge the movies but the movies are the flagship and they only do what they want to do.
It made total sense for Agents of SHIELD to want to get as much of that selling power as they could from the movies, but after Cap 2 they were cut off from the ongoing plot by virtue of, well, SHIELD being blown up, and also Agents of SHIELD's declining ratings made guest starring on it the sort of thing the movie stars likely couldn't be bothered with. Also logistically it must have been a nightmare. After the first season's terrific payoff of SHIELD/Hydra every bit of crossover was cursory or incidental. And honestly the later seasons of the show were better for hiving themselves off.
The Netflix stuff was always, I thought, supposed to be its own thing. Street level heroes that would have great crossover with each other but little to none with the other elements of the MCU. Tonally they were consistent with each other, not the movies.
The Netflix stuff made sense there too because (for various reasons including budgetary) they went with a very low-level, low-stakes approach which makes it actually fairly easy to avoid the necessity of any sort of cross-pollination with the films. Nobody in the films would now or even give a shit about anything that is going on in the Netflix shows and none of the characters involved in the Netflix shows is gonna be rolling with the Avengers.
They feel separate because there are things going on that heavily impact the world of the MCU, but which are never mentioned. There are a good dozen films which had profound, earth shattering events that people would at least sometimes mention in passing, but which just aren't.
Which is fine and all, but it just basically takes place in an alternate universe where the MCU films never happened, aside from the first Avengers.
I'm not sure there's been much of anything that went on in the MCU that would be all that relevant to the Netflix shows after the first Avengers movie. (up until Avengers 3 obviously)
Not directly relevant, but still things that happen that people would talk about. Think about how things like the Berlin wall falling, or Nixon, or Vietnam, or Trump, or the Challenger explosion, or Forrest Gump, or a thousand other things don't directly affect anyone, but are part of our collective consciousness and get referenced in every day conversation. Or how people occasionally talk about current events, what wars are going on, current political happenings.
In the MCU, there has been an explosion of aliens, superheroes, and wizards. The MCU equivalent of the NSA was found to be a front for secret Nazis. An entire city in Africa was lifted out of the ground, sent halfway to space, and almost blew up the world. The world governments made it illegal to be a superhero without registering.
These sorts of things would come up in conversation occasionally, at least in passing. But they don't.
I mean, I guess. But they would ultimately just be throw away references. Which I think would be better but it wouldn't like fundamentally alter anything going on in the Netflix shows.
Yeah, I don't think it makes the experience tangibly worse, it just feels separate.
(Also, yeah, I was thinking of Wakanda when I said it was in Africa.)
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In non Marvel news, I finally caught the first episode of Kingdom and it was pretty fantastic. Can't wait to watch more.
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I enjoy the Seven Deadly Sins, it's not great but it's ok. However, while I'm not prudish at all and love cheesecake as much as anyone, the second season seems even more problematic than the first regarding Melonidas' actions towards Elizabeth. He's just flat out openly groping or group groping her in front of others when she's not comfortable with it.
I could recommend the show as a casual watch if they knocked that the fuck out. It can be a pretty fun show when they knock it the fuck out
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should have got out instead of...everything else. That goes for like a number of characters too. Up until those points you could be on their side to some degree. Everyone digs themselves deeper instead just about.
Sometimes people find it hard to get past protagonist-centered morality. Seeing the story from Walt’s perspective almost enforces that for those people. If the show had centered around Hank people would have fucking hated Walter White when it was revealed that he was the big bad.
I want to like it, but Season 2 really needs to pick up the pace.
I enjoyed it, but honestly, the main characters are irritating in how often simply making a phone call would solve issues. I did love
Hazel and Cha Cha's portrayal, even if it's never really clarified exactly how dangerous they are.
Yeah I never really fully understood what Hazel and Cha Cha's deal is.
I mean do they have super powers? I guess they must, since Hazel was basically able to go toe-to-toe with Lucas but it's really kinda ambiguous.
On an unrelated note: Does Amazon Prime Video not have subtitled foreign movies?
Every time I crank up something in another language I have to enable the subtitles under options, where they're overlaid like closed captions and don't bother translating things like signs or letters presented on-screen. It's very annoying.
Sometimes people find it hard to get past protagonist-centered morality. Seeing the story from Walt’s perspective almost enforces that for those people. If the show had centered around Hank people would have fucking hated Walter White when it was revealed that he was the big bad.
Part of it is also that everyone they pit him against aside from Hank has the outward appearance of being much more monstrous than he is, that Walter doesn't look to bad by comparison. So you've got poor bullied Walter over here against some murderous gangster or whatever, it all but flat tells the audience to root for Walter.
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We finished Umbrella Academy. It was enjoyable but I agree, the constant withholding of vital information for characters is incredibly dumb. We don't even learn about Ben. He's just gone from episode 1 and we're supposed to accept that for the entire season.
Umbrella Academy end spoilers
"I liked you better before you got laid!"
Then Allison gets made that Luther didn't sleep with his freaking sister first what a gross plot line wtf.
Time travel and all caused a ton of plot holes. I dunno. I guess S2 could fix a ton of weird writing.
How did the dad know about the apocalypse? Let alone that Vanya would cause it? Ugh. Why not just include her originally so she doesn't go psycho and murder everyone?
So many weird things for the sake of being dysfunctional without a strong motive. I dunno.
I figured they were augmented somehow. Given that the Commission was able to make time machines, they were probably able to go backward and forward to get the tech they needed. The comics version of the Commission had an incredible level of medical technology, including genetic modification.
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Sometimes people find it hard to get past protagonist-centered morality. Seeing the story from Walt’s perspective almost enforces that for those people. If the show had centered around Hank people would have fucking hated Walter White when it was revealed that he was the big bad.
Part of it is also that everyone they pit him against aside from Hank has the outward appearance of being much more monstrous than he is, that Walter doesn't look to bad by comparison. So you've got poor bullied Walter over here against some murderous gangster or whatever, it all but flat tells the audience to root for Walter.
I think it makes it very clear that Walter is hurting all of the people around him, ranging from the completely innocent (eg his wife and kid) to the more morally gray (eg Jesse).
And by the end,
the show completely spells it out by having Walter himself realize he's a fucking monster, so even the slow folks should be able to get it.
If you come out of that show thinking that Walter is a good guy, you're probably as much of a sociopath as Walter is.
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I haven't finished Breaking Bad yet but I was both surprised and pleased that early on they do a good job of establishing that this whole road he goes down is more about ego then desperation. His cancer is the impetus but it's not what drives Walter to be who he is and do what he does.
We finished Umbrella Academy. It was enjoyable but I agree, the constant withholding of vital information for characters is incredibly dumb. We don't even learn about Ben. He's just gone from episode 1 and we're supposed to accept that for the entire season.
Umbrella Academy end spoilers
"I liked you better before you got laid!"
Then Allison gets made that Luther didn't sleep with his freaking sister first what a gross plot line wtf.
Time travel and all caused a ton of plot holes. I dunno. I guess S2 could fix a ton of weird writing.
How did the dad know about the apocalypse? Let alone that Vanya would cause it? Ugh. Why not just include her originally so she doesn't go psycho and murder everyone?
So many weird things for the sake of being dysfunctional without a strong motive. I dunno.
Klaus MVP.
Er... the beginning of the show pretty explicitly lays out
none of these super powered children/adults are related by blood. They aren't actually siblings. They just went to the same weird boarding school ... where their "dad" bought them from their actual parent? Don't know why you would imply incest armed with that knowledge, you would get all weird about two students dating ... unless you think the super natural births make them all blood related?
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We finished Umbrella Academy. It was enjoyable but I agree, the constant withholding of vital information for characters is incredibly dumb. We don't even learn about Ben. He's just gone from episode 1 and we're supposed to accept that for the entire season.
Umbrella Academy end spoilers
"I liked you better before you got laid!"
Then Allison gets made that Luther didn't sleep with his freaking sister first what a gross plot line wtf.
Time travel and all caused a ton of plot holes. I dunno. I guess S2 could fix a ton of weird writing.
How did the dad know about the apocalypse? Let alone that Vanya would cause it? Ugh. Why not just include her originally so she doesn't go psycho and murder everyone?
So many weird things for the sake of being dysfunctional without a strong motive. I dunno.
Klaus MVP.
Er... the beginning of the show pretty explicitly lays out
none of these super powered children/adults are related by blood. They aren't actually siblings. They just went to the same weird boarding school ... where their "dad" bought them from their actual parent? Don't know why you would imply incest armed with that knowledge, you would get all weird about two students dating ... unless you think the super natural births make them all blood related?
I mean,
they were raised as brothers and sisters in a similar manner to step-brothers and sisters. And step-siblings getting together, especially ones who have been raised together for most of their lives, is taboo and would probably be considered gross by most.
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Sometimes people find it hard to get past protagonist-centered morality. Seeing the story from Walt’s perspective almost enforces that for those people. If the show had centered around Hank people would have fucking hated Walter White when it was revealed that he was the big bad.
People were like this with The Shield and Vic Mackey, a character who (pilot spoiler)
murders a fellow cop
in the pilot
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La Mante is one of those confusing Netflix originals that I'm pretty sure actually has nothing to do with Netflix (Given the TF1 logo at the start) but regardless it's a French crime drama that I watched and sort of enjoyed but it wasn't good at all.
It all comes down to terrible policing and investigative work. I think getting this right is what makes the really good series stand out. This did not. It was a team of morons never asking the obvious questions and taking massive risks for the sake of drama
Also there's some trans stuff that struck me as massively unhelpful but maybe I'm reading too much into it
The killer is killing people that reject her in bed because of her botched reassignment surgery.
Would I watch a second series? Definitely maybe.
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My only opinions of umbrella academy is that Klause is best boy and that I could never take Luther seriously because he looked like that strangler puppet from OG Puppet Master.
We finished Umbrella Academy. It was enjoyable but I agree, the constant withholding of vital information for characters is incredibly dumb. We don't even learn about Ben. He's just gone from episode 1 and we're supposed to accept that for the entire season.
Umbrella Academy end spoilers
"I liked you better before you got laid!"
Then Allison gets made that Luther didn't sleep with his freaking sister first what a gross plot line wtf.
Time travel and all caused a ton of plot holes. I dunno. I guess S2 could fix a ton of weird writing.
How did the dad know about the apocalypse? Let alone that Vanya would cause it? Ugh. Why not just include her originally so she doesn't go psycho and murder everyone?
So many weird things for the sake of being dysfunctional without a strong motive. I dunno.
Klaus MVP.
So some comic spoilers in relation to this.
As mentioned the commission has access to advanced medial tech. Hazel and Cha-Cha are supposed to enhanced. See also how the handler survived a grenade point blank.
Reginald is an alien. That’s how he knew about the apocalypse. He has tech to predict the future. The show has exactly one scene in the final episode where you are supposed to infer this.
We finished Umbrella Academy. It was enjoyable but I agree, the constant withholding of vital information for characters is incredibly dumb. We don't even learn about Ben. He's just gone from episode 1 and we're supposed to accept that for the entire season.
Umbrella Academy end spoilers
"I liked you better before you got laid!"
Then Allison gets mad that Luther didn't sleep with his freaking sister first what a gross plot line wtf.
Time travel and all caused a ton of plot holes. I dunno. I guess S2 could fix a ton of weird writing.
How did the dad know about the apocalypse? Let alone that Vanya would cause it? Ugh. Why not just include her originally so she doesn't go psycho and murder everyone?
So many weird things for the sake of being dysfunctional without a strong motive. I dunno.
Klaus MVP.
So some comic spoilers in relation to this.
As mentioned the commission has access to advanced medial tech. Hazel and Cha-Cha are supposed to enhanced. See also how the handler survived a grenade point blank.
Reginald is an alien. That’s how he knew about the apocalypse. He has tech to predict the future. The show has exactly one scene in the final episode where you are supposed to infer this.
Yeah, my partner told me about the thing about the dad thing afterwards. She went digging around for more answers. Weird.
Any more knowledge on what the
fireflies from his wife were that he released into the world? Are they supposed to be the 42 kids?
We finished Umbrella Academy. It was enjoyable but I agree, the constant withholding of vital information for characters is incredibly dumb. We don't even learn about Ben. He's just gone from episode 1 and we're supposed to accept that for the entire season.
Umbrella Academy end spoilers
"I liked you better before you got laid!"
Then Allison gets mad that Luther didn't sleep with his freaking sister first what a gross plot line wtf.
Time travel and all caused a ton of plot holes. I dunno. I guess S2 could fix a ton of weird writing.
How did the dad know about the apocalypse? Let alone that Vanya would cause it? Ugh. Why not just include her originally so she doesn't go psycho and murder everyone?
So many weird things for the sake of being dysfunctional without a strong motive. I dunno.
Klaus MVP.
So some comic spoilers in relation to this.
As mentioned the commission has access to advanced medial tech. Hazel and Cha-Cha are supposed to enhanced. See also how the handler survived a grenade point blank.
Reginald is an alien. That’s how he knew about the apocalypse. He has tech to predict the future. The show has exactly one scene in the final episode where you are supposed to infer this.
Yeah, my partner told me about the thing about the dad thing afterwards. She went digging around for more answers. Weird.
Any more knowledge on what the
fireflies from his wife were that he released into the world? Are they supposed to be the 42 kids?
If I understood it correctly...
His wife dies and it causes an alien exodus - all of those rockets firing in the background - likely because they knew about the eventual apocalypse. Not sure if his wife releasing that gas is what caused Vanya to come into being, else it would be a self fulfilling prophecy.
Umbrella Academy question for those who watched the whole show:
One of the episodes the camera pans up through Harold/Lenoard's attic and it looks like there is a body on the floor. Was that Ben's body? It didn't seem like that would make any sense if that was the case.
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Umbrella Academy question for those who watched the whole show:
One of the episodes the camera pans up through Harold/Lenoard's attic and it looks like there is a body on the floor. Was that Ben's body? It didn't seem like that would make any sense if that was the case.
La Mante is one of those confusing Netflix originals that I'm pretty sure actually has nothing to do with Netflix (Given the TF1 logo at the start) but regardless it's a French crime drama that I watched and sort of enjoyed but it wasn't good at all.
It all comes down to terrible policing and investigative work. I think getting this right is what makes the really good series stand out. This did not. It was a team of morons never asking the obvious questions and taking massive risks for the sake of drama
Also there's some trans stuff that struck me as massively unhelpful but maybe I'm reading too much into it
The killer is killing people that reject her in bed because of her botched reassignment surgery.
Would I watch a second series? Definitely maybe.
If you're looking for interesting French crime dramas, have you seen Spiral? It's really good. Hella bleak, though.
Umbrella Academy question for those who watched the whole show:
One of the episodes the camera pans up through Harold/Lenoard's attic and it looks like there is a body on the floor. Was that Ben's body? It didn't seem like that would make any sense if that was the case.
As far as I know, Bens been dead since well before the show. I think probably whatever caused them to split up.
In the very beginning they show the group portraits and he's missing from one.
Edit also his statue at the funeral.
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Sometimes people find it hard to get past protagonist-centered morality. Seeing the story from Walt’s perspective almost enforces that for those people. If the show had centered around Hank people would have fucking hated Walter White when it was revealed that he was the big bad.
People were like this with The Shield and Vic Mackey, a character who (pilot spoiler)
murders a fellow cop
in the pilot
More The Shield
"I've done worse" might be the most horrifyingly chilling sentence I've heard spoken in a fictional tv show.
We finished Umbrella Academy. It was enjoyable but I agree, the constant withholding of vital information for characters is incredibly dumb. We don't even learn about Ben. He's just gone from episode 1 and we're supposed to accept that for the entire season.
Umbrella Academy end spoilers
"I liked you better before you got laid!"
Then Allison gets made that Luther didn't sleep with his freaking sister first what a gross plot line wtf.
Time travel and all caused a ton of plot holes. I dunno. I guess S2 could fix a ton of weird writing.
How did the dad know about the apocalypse? Let alone that Vanya would cause it? Ugh. Why not just include her originally so she doesn't go psycho and murder everyone?
So many weird things for the sake of being dysfunctional without a strong motive. I dunno.
Klaus MVP.
Yeah, I think the show suffered a little bit from Lost syndrome. They focused a little too much on the mysteries and then failed to deliver interesting results with it. To the point of just abandoning plot lines sometimes, which is my biggest pet peeve.
Like what happened to Ben, or does Klaus every get to say goodbye to dave
But around the edges, when they weren't trying to lay groundwork for another twist, the characters were really cool and I think very interesting.
Could I have made edits I would have pushed the big reveals to earlier in (like middle of the season) and spent more time on the fallout of the reveals leading to the final twist (that wasn't really).
full season spoilers:
Like have the whole vanya has powers thing start way earlier and have her spend more time learning/becoming adept but still thinking howard/leopold or whatever is a good guy, and hiding everything from her family. Spend more time her on her decent into madness where she learns all these things about her childhood without anyone else catching on. Which would in turn really highlight Luther's point about her being dangerous, and make it seem less dickish that they just straight lock her up.
Revelations about the council or whatever it's called should have been super early on so they could have more shenanigans with five and the councilwoman.
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I've heard such good things about Homecoming but the first episode didn't really do it for me at all. Does it get better after that or is it all of that same pace/style?
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We finished Umbrella Academy. It was enjoyable but I agree, the constant withholding of vital information for characters is incredibly dumb. We don't even learn about Ben. He's just gone from episode 1 and we're supposed to accept that for the entire season.
Umbrella Academy end spoilers
"I liked you better before you got laid!"
Then Allison gets made that Luther didn't sleep with his freaking sister first what a gross plot line wtf.
Time travel and all caused a ton of plot holes. I dunno. I guess S2 could fix a ton of weird writing.
How did the dad know about the apocalypse? Let alone that Vanya would cause it? Ugh. Why not just include her originally so she doesn't go psycho and murder everyone?
So many weird things for the sake of being dysfunctional without a strong motive. I dunno.
Klaus MVP.
Yeah, I think the show suffered a little bit from Lost syndrome. They focused a little too much on the mysteries and then failed to deliver interesting results with it. To the point of just abandoning plot lines sometimes, which is my biggest pet peeve.
Like what happened to Ben, or does Klaus every get to say goodbye to dave
Re: The spoiler:
The comics don't spell out what happened to Ben either, and the writer has stated in interviews that he hasn't decided yet on how he died.
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wait, are you talking about sokovia, the city in eastern europe?
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I mean, I guess. But they would ultimately just be throw away references. Which I think would be better but it wouldn't like fundamentally alter anything going on in the Netflix shows.
Yeah, I didn't watch far into season 2 for just this reason. I really enjoyed the first season, had some real The Slayers vibes going on. But no thanks.
Yeah, I don't think it makes the experience tangibly worse, it just feels separate.
(Also, yeah, I was thinking of Wakanda when I said it was in Africa.)
Just replace one of the kids with Sammy Hagar.
The most disturbing thing about that show is the number of viewers who viewed him as a hero.
I could recommend the show as a casual watch if they knocked that the fuck out. It can be a pretty fun show when they knock it the fuck out
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Like he's Willy fucking Lowman with an entrepreneurial bent. By the end of season two it's pretty inarguable that he's a monster.
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I enjoyed it, but honestly, the main characters are irritating in how often simply making a phone call would solve issues. I did love
Yeah I never really fully understood what Hazel and Cha Cha's deal is.
On an unrelated note: Does Amazon Prime Video not have subtitled foreign movies?
Every time I crank up something in another language I have to enable the subtitles under options, where they're overlaid like closed captions and don't bother translating things like signs or letters presented on-screen. It's very annoying.
Part of it is also that everyone they pit him against aside from Hank has the outward appearance of being much more monstrous than he is, that Walter doesn't look to bad by comparison. So you've got poor bullied Walter over here against some murderous gangster or whatever, it all but flat tells the audience to root for Walter.
Umbrella Academy end spoilers
Then Allison gets made that Luther didn't sleep with his freaking sister first what a gross plot line wtf.
Time travel and all caused a ton of plot holes. I dunno. I guess S2 could fix a ton of weird writing.
How did the dad know about the apocalypse? Let alone that Vanya would cause it? Ugh. Why not just include her originally so she doesn't go psycho and murder everyone?
So many weird things for the sake of being dysfunctional without a strong motive. I dunno.
Klaus MVP.
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I think it makes it very clear that Walter is hurting all of the people around him, ranging from the completely innocent (eg his wife and kid) to the more morally gray (eg Jesse).
And by the end,
If you come out of that show thinking that Walter is a good guy, you're probably as much of a sociopath as Walter is.
Er... the beginning of the show pretty explicitly lays out
I mean,
People were like this with The Shield and Vic Mackey, a character who (pilot spoiler)
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
It all comes down to terrible policing and investigative work. I think getting this right is what makes the really good series stand out. This did not. It was a team of morons never asking the obvious questions and taking massive risks for the sake of drama
Also there's some trans stuff that struck me as massively unhelpful but maybe I'm reading too much into it
Would I watch a second series? Definitely maybe.
"...only mights and maybes."
So some comic spoilers in relation to this.
Reginald is an alien. That’s how he knew about the apocalypse. He has tech to predict the future. The show has exactly one scene in the final episode where you are supposed to infer this.
Yeah, my partner told me about the thing about the dad thing afterwards. She went digging around for more answers. Weird.
Any more knowledge on what the
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Episoe 4 and 5 were my favourite part of the season with episode 6
If I understood it correctly...
eh, Walter had an out all he had to do was swallow his pride. The show is about male ego and the midlife crisis.
If I remember right it's
If you're looking for interesting French crime dramas, have you seen Spiral? It's really good. Hella bleak, though.
In the very beginning they show the group portraits and he's missing from one.
Edit also his statue at the funeral.
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Yeah, I think the show suffered a little bit from Lost syndrome. They focused a little too much on the mysteries and then failed to deliver interesting results with it. To the point of just abandoning plot lines sometimes, which is my biggest pet peeve.
But around the edges, when they weren't trying to lay groundwork for another twist, the characters were really cool and I think very interesting.
Could I have made edits I would have pushed the big reveals to earlier in (like middle of the season) and spent more time on the fallout of the reveals leading to the final twist (that wasn't really).
full season spoilers:
Revelations about the council or whatever it's called should have been super early on so they could have more shenanigans with five and the councilwoman.
Re: The spoiler: