There are Lion King posters all over town right now and they're all just pictures of the animals' heads staring bored at you and it looks more like an advertisement for Steiff than anything. You can't even tell if the adult Lion on some of them is supposed to be Simba or Mufasa.
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Like, I could see it working if they tried to go a more serious, dramatic route 'in the spirit' of the original... like the play. But a shot-for-shot remake of the animated film just seems tonally wrong.
That's roughly what I thought. It's got some neat ideas and fun scenes, but I don't think Spielberg is a particularly good match for ideas-driven sci-fi. Ideas tend to turn into mush in view of his proclivity for setpieces and sentimentality. Though I also think that he was a mismatch for A.I., which others consider a masterpiece.
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I thought minority report missed the point of the story it was based on.
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
I thought minority report missed the point of the story it was based on.
Actually I think it's more of a counterpoint to the orignal story, sorta like how the Starship Troopers movie is as much a satire of the book as it is an adaptation of it.
Movie was definitely in the camp that the idea of Precrime was flawed, arresting people for something they've never done is wrong, and keeping teens drugged against their will to do so was awful. Short story wasn't sunshine-and-roses, but it was presented as a good enough thing that literary Anderton was willing to fight *for* it, rather than against it.
As for the Minority Report paradox in the film, I'm not suprised that they didn't go with the
Anderton is predicted to murder a man he's never met because one of the precogs saw that he would kill this man to cover up the paradoxical flaw of seeing the future because as head of Precrime he can see the individual report ls of each precog and see that one says he is going to kill this man to cover up the paradoxical flaw of seeing the future
and instead with
you can Bill-and-Ted the system by giving people a reason to murder someone so they get arrested for a future murder they would otherwise never consider doing
cause I had to read it about three times to understand what the fuck was going on, and I'm one of those that think at the movies. (Though it would have been a nice nod if it was explained that's why the Minority Report in the movie gets immediately buried.)
I thought minority report missed the point of the story it was based on.
Actually I think it's more of a counterpoint to the orignal story, sorta like how the Starship Troopers movie is as much a satire of the book as it is an adaptation of it.
Movie was definitely in the camp that the idea of Precrime was flawed, arresting people for something they've never done is wrong, and keeping teens drugged against their will to do so was awful. Short story wasn't sunshine-and-roses, but it was presented as a good enough thing that literary Anderton was willing to fight *for* it, rather than against it.
As for the Minority Report paradox in the film, I'm not suprised that they didn't go with the
Anderton is predicted to murder a man he's never met because one of the precogs saw that he would kill this man to cover up the paradoxical flaw of seeing the future because as head of Precrime he can see the individual report ls of each precog and see that one says he is going to kill this man to cover up the paradoxical flaw of seeing the future
and instead with
you can Bill-and-Ted the system by giving people a reason to murder someone so they get arrested for a future murder they would otherwise never consider doing
cause I had to read it about three times to understand what the fuck was going on, and I'm one of those that think at the movies. (Though it would have been a nice nod if it was explained that's why the Minority Report in the movie gets immediately buried.)
I think both the film and the book deal with the whole idea that the reports themselves change the future they see. They just have different takes on it.
CG Artist A: They want us to make photorealistic animals for the Lion King remake? That's a terrible idea! It's going to look terrible!
CG Artist B: Yea, but look at it this way. We're getting mouse money and state of the art tools to do this. Think of it as a really big practice exercise. Just focus on making the most realistic animals possible.
CG Artist A: Hey, you're right. This is going to be great! We're going to make the biggest, longest tech demo ever and get paid to do it.
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And what haunts me, is that in all the faces of all the lions that Favreau ever animated, I discover no kinship, no understanding, no mercy. I see only the overwhelming indifference of nature. To me, there is no such thing as a noble ‘circle of life’ of the animals. And this blank stare speaks only of a half-bored interest in eating the antelope.
And what haunts me, is that in all the faces of all the lions that Favreau ever animated, I discover no kinship, no understanding, no mercy. I see only the overwhelming indifference of nature. To me, there is no such thing as a noble ‘circle of life’ of the animals. And this blank stare speaks only of a half-bored interest in eating the antelope.
And what haunts me, is that in all the faces of all the lions that Favreau ever animated, I discover no kinship, no understanding, no mercy. I see only the overwhelming indifference of nature. To me, there is no such thing as a noble ‘circle of life’ of the animals. And this blank stare speaks only of a half-bored interest in eating the antelope.
That comment deserves an oscar.
Might as well hand over the editing award from Bohemian Rhapsody. Who has it right now anyway?
I will recommend The Farewell for a movie about family and whatnot that will pull at heartstrings
Also it is nice to have a movie that is that Chinese / Asian American but produced by American studios and not trying to cater to white audiences specifically etc (but in doing so, as has been proven, all people can enjoy)
I thought the Jungle Book live action was actually decent and better than expected
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I thought minority report missed the point of the story it was based on.
Actually I think it's more of a counterpoint to the orignal story, sorta like how the Starship Troopers movie is as much a satire of the book as it is an adaptation of it.
Movie was definitely in the camp that the idea of Precrime was flawed, arresting people for something they've never done is wrong, and keeping teens drugged against their will to do so was awful. Short story wasn't sunshine-and-roses, but it was presented as a good enough thing that literary Anderton was willing to fight *for* it, rather than against it.
As for the Minority Report paradox in the film, I'm not suprised that they didn't go with the
Anderton is predicted to murder a man he's never met because one of the precogs saw that he would kill this man to cover up the paradoxical flaw of seeing the future because as head of Precrime he can see the individual report ls of each precog and see that one says he is going to kill this man to cover up the paradoxical flaw of seeing the future
and instead with
you can Bill-and-Ted the system by giving people a reason to murder someone so they get arrested for a future murder they would otherwise never consider doing
cause I had to read it about three times to understand what the fuck was going on, and I'm one of those that think at the movies. (Though it would have been a nice nod if it was explained that's why the Minority Report in the movie gets immediately buried.)
I think both the film and the book deal with the whole idea that the reports themselves change the future they see. They just have different takes on it.
The short story kinda ends with a haunting viewpoint. That yes, these things are actually accurate and the only reason the 'minority report' exists is because of the dude's unique position in the organization.
The movie goes in the direction of 'no this is fucked these things aren't actually predicting the super accurate future there are many minority reports.'
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
I thought minority report missed the point of the story it was based on.
Actually I think it's more of a counterpoint to the orignal story, sorta like how the Starship Troopers movie is as much a satire of the book as it is an adaptation of it.
Movie was definitely in the camp that the idea of Precrime was flawed, arresting people for something they've never done is wrong, and keeping teens drugged against their will to do so was awful. Short story wasn't sunshine-and-roses, but it was presented as a good enough thing that literary Anderton was willing to fight *for* it, rather than against it.
As for the Minority Report paradox in the film, I'm not suprised that they didn't go with the
Anderton is predicted to murder a man he's never met because one of the precogs saw that he would kill this man to cover up the paradoxical flaw of seeing the future because as head of Precrime he can see the individual report ls of each precog and see that one says he is going to kill this man to cover up the paradoxical flaw of seeing the future
and instead with
you can Bill-and-Ted the system by giving people a reason to murder someone so they get arrested for a future murder they would otherwise never consider doing
cause I had to read it about three times to understand what the fuck was going on, and I'm one of those that think at the movies. (Though it would have been a nice nod if it was explained that's why the Minority Report in the movie gets immediately buried.)
I think both the film and the book deal with the whole idea that the reports themselves change the future they see. They just have different takes on it.
The short story kinda ends with a haunting viewpoint. That yes, these things are actually accurate and the only reason the 'minority report' exists is because of the dude's unique position in the organization.
The movie goes in the direction of 'no this is fucked these things aren't actually predicting the super accurate future there are many minority reports.'
It's been awhile but as I recall the final confrontation with the bad guy involves Cruise's character pointing out that once you read the report, you can change the future. Which is sorta the whole problem.
They story as far as I remember basically makes that same point but doesn't view it as an issue in the same way. The minority report in the story is a function of knowing the future via reading the reports. Just like in the film.
So I just watched Hereditary. It was kinda eh. It had a few creepy moments and the lead actress did a really good job, but overall I was left not feeling much.
Having dealt with mental illness in my personal life, I don't find it shocking or anything when I see it in media. Also, it felt really dumb that nobody attempted to acknowledge how fucked up the seance in the living room was. After that, they should have all freaked the fuck out and tried to get out of dodge, but they muddled about like it never happened. When clearly supernatural shit goes down and nobody acknowledges it as such, it kills any believability I have for the movie, and thus kills any tension or spookiness. It was slightly disturbing when the daughter was killed, but it did not seem to matter.
Toni Collette did a helluva job playing a woman left with scars after being mentally abused by her mother. Her screaming and nearly convulsing on the floor after finding her daughter's dead body felt viscerally real. She also did an excellent job showing the alternating vindictiveness, indifference, and manic excitement of a certain kind of mentally ill person.
Of the recent horror films I have seen, I like The autopsy of Jane Doe much better. I found the two leads far more believable and relatable, which made the creepiness far more effective.
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Midsommar is the closest thing yet to a Wes Anderson horror movie, from emotionally blunted relationships and deadpan physical comedy to pastel color schemes and planimetric/symmetrical cinematography (particularly along the z-axis).
Specifically, it’s the episode of Hannibal Season 3-1 Anderson never made
Also, it features a moment in which my jaw literally dropped
These are some things that might help encourage you to watch Midsommar
So I just watched Hereditary. It was kinda eh. It had a few creepy moments and the lead actress did a really good job, but overall I was left not feeling much.
That's pretty much how I felt about Midsommar. I didn't outright dislike any individual part of it but at the end I was just like, okay, that sure was a movie someone made, for some reason.
Taking the message of Minority Report away, their vision of day-to-day future society really impressed me. The automatic eye-scans, customised ads, etc.
Given that places are trying to do that sort of thing now with facial recognition, it felt believable.
So I just watched Hereditary. It was kinda eh. It had a few creepy moments and the lead actress did a really good job, but overall I was left not feeling much.
That's pretty much how I felt about Midsommar. I didn't outright dislike any individual part of it but at the end I was just like, okay, that sure was a movie someone made, for some reason.
I watched Midsommar last night because I overall liked Hereditary. I didn't hate it, but my impression (and the feeling I got from the audience) was "well, that was a thing." To me, there weren't any stand-out moments like there were in Hereditary.
Also the guy who plays Chidi on The Good Place is in it.
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CG Artist A: They want us to make photorealistic animals for the Lion King remake? That's a terrible idea! It's going to look terrible!
CG Artist B: Yea, but look at it this way. We're getting mouse money and state of the art tools to do this. Think of it as a really big practice exercise. Just focus on making the most realistic animals possible.
CG Artist A: Hey, you're right. This is going to be great! We're going to make the biggest, longest tech demo ever and get paid to do it.
As a general FYI, "mouse money" does not apply to cg artists. A Disney gig looks great on the resume, and you get free access to the parks, but otherwise the pay and employment terms aren't great.
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So I just watched Hereditary. It was kinda eh. It had a few creepy moments and the lead actress did a really good job, but overall I was left not feeling much.
Having dealt with mental illness in my personal life, I don't find it shocking or anything when I see it in media. Also, it felt really dumb that nobody attempted to acknowledge how fucked up the seance in the living room was. After that, they should have all freaked the fuck out and tried to get out of dodge, but they muddled about like it never happened. When clearly supernatural shit goes down and nobody acknowledges it as such, it kills any believability I have for the movie, and thus kills any tension or spookiness. It was slightly disturbing when the daughter was killed, but it did not seem to matter.
Toni Collette did a helluva job playing a woman left with scars after being mentally abused by her mother. Her screaming and nearly convulsing on the floor after finding her daughter's dead body felt viscerally real. She also did an excellent job showing the alternating vindictiveness, indifference, and manic excitement of a certain kind of mentally ill person.
Of the recent horror films I have seen, I like The autopsy of Jane Doe much better. I found the two leads far more believable and relatable, which made the creepiness far more effective.
"No one acknowledged how fucked up what was going on was" seems like the exact opposite of everything that went on in Hereditary. "Holy shit everything is falling apart" is like the entire mood of the film.
I thought minority report missed the point of the story it was based on.
Actually I think it's more of a counterpoint to the orignal story, sorta like how the Starship Troopers movie is as much a satire of the book as it is an adaptation of it.
Movie was definitely in the camp that the idea of Precrime was flawed, arresting people for something they've never done is wrong, and keeping teens drugged against their will to do so was awful. Short story wasn't sunshine-and-roses, but it was presented as a good enough thing that literary Anderton was willing to fight *for* it, rather than against it.
As for the Minority Report paradox in the film, I'm not suprised that they didn't go with the
Anderton is predicted to murder a man he's never met because one of the precogs saw that he would kill this man to cover up the paradoxical flaw of seeing the future because as head of Precrime he can see the individual report ls of each precog and see that one says he is going to kill this man to cover up the paradoxical flaw of seeing the future
and instead with
you can Bill-and-Ted the system by giving people a reason to murder someone so they get arrested for a future murder they would otherwise never consider doing
cause I had to read it about three times to understand what the fuck was going on, and I'm one of those that think at the movies. (Though it would have been a nice nod if it was explained that's why the Minority Report in the movie gets immediately buried.)
I think both the film and the book deal with the whole idea that the reports themselves change the future they see. They just have different takes on it.
The short story kinda ends with a haunting viewpoint. That yes, these things are actually accurate and the only reason the 'minority report' exists is because of the dude's unique position in the organization.
The movie goes in the direction of 'no this is fucked these things aren't actually predicting the super accurate future there are many minority reports.'
IIRC we only see one instance of a Minority Report in the movie, and both talked about there being others. Literary Anderton's was weird because they were all three Minority Reports.
And it is a case of seeing the future being wonky for the guy doing the seeing in the movie; the only way the setup by the bad guy works is because Anderton is the man who parses through the Precogs' images directly. How else would he know to go to a place he's never been to meet the man he's never met that he is suppose to kill?
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So I just watched Hereditary. It was kinda eh. It had a few creepy moments and the lead actress did a really good job, but overall I was left not feeling much.
That's pretty much how I felt about Midsommar. I didn't outright dislike any individual part of it but at the end I was just like, okay, that sure was a movie someone made, for some reason.
Hereditary and Midsommar (vague thematic spoilers for both):
Both movies strike me as being about a specific type of grief, one so shot through with guilt that the combination is not even comprehensible to the person feeling it. The horror (as expressed through extreme gore, religious cultism, genre tropes, and melodrama) acts as a kind of therapeutic working through of these complex, difficult emotions—particularly the feeling of wanting to hurt the people you love. The main characters in these movies have experienced something awful and traumatic which they feel responsible for on a deep, even illogical level. In Hereditary, this conflict proves horrifyingly insolvable; in Midsommar, it proves horrifyingly solvable. The purpose of the films is to draw some of these deep, shameful emotions out like a poison, by examining them safely within a fictional space. Admitting and confronting the very worst is its own kind of catharsis. By the end of both movies things are, in a sense, all downhill from here.
What's next for Disney live-action remakes? They've done Cinderella, Beauty and the Beast, Jungle Book, Dumbo, Aladdin, Lion King, and Mulan. I assume Pocahontas is on deck if they can figure out how to make it not hella racist. Hercules, Tarzan, and Hunchback are also possibilities but I don't think those films are as iconic as Lion King or Aladdin so I doubt they would perform as well. Live-action Pinocchio seems pointless and creepy but then again so did live-action Dumbo. Not sure what else is left?
What's next for Disney live-action remakes? They've done Cinderella, Beauty and the Beast, Jungle Book, Dumbo, Aladdin, Lion King, and Mulan. I assume Pocahontas is on deck if they can figure out how to make it not hella racist. Hercules, Tarzan, and Hunchback are also possibilities but I don't think those films are as iconic as Lion King or Aladdin so I doubt they would perform as well. Live-action Pinocchio seems pointless and creepy but then again so did live-action Dumbo. Not sure what else is left?
I can't wait for live-action Toy Story.
Well, they turned cartoon movies into live-action theater, then live action movies, so the next logical step would be for Disney to figure out how to bring actual cartoons to life and make them perform.
Look for the live-action Who Framed Roger Rabbit in 2023 where all the live actors are now cartoons and all the cartoon actors are now alive.
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What's next for Disney live-action remakes? They've done Cinderella, Beauty and the Beast, Jungle Book, Dumbo, Aladdin, Lion King, and Mulan. I assume Pocahontas is on deck if they can figure out how to make it not hella racist. Hercules, Tarzan, and Hunchback are also possibilities but I don't think those films are as iconic as Lion King or Aladdin so I doubt they would perform as well. Live-action Pinocchio seems pointless and creepy but then again so did live-action Dumbo. Not sure what else is left?
I can't wait for live-action Toy Story.
Pocahontas was already called The New World, and I hope Disney are not stupid enough to try and step up to Terrence Malick.
That said, I'm still waiting for Tale Spin done a la the Jungle Book. Say Baloo moved away from the jungle and became a pilot. Sign me the hell up for that adaptation.
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Next up - a live-action adaptation of the seminal Disney classic, Trader Mickey!
"Be Prepared" is the best song in that movie by a mile, booooooo for cutting anything from it.
As far as Pocahontas, the historical rewriting in that movie is problematic as fuck, and I can see Disney being smart enough to not get within 100 yards of a remake in the current environment.
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If you feel that the thread doesn't live up to your standards, maybe you could disagree with the guy without stuff like that?
Or try to elevate it to whatever those standards are with posts of your own, instead of doing stuff like that?
Totally fair thing to disagree with, but come on.
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Wouldn't be the first Philip K. Dick adaptation for that to happen with.
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I'm not sure it really missed the point so much as it was just telling it's own story.
Actually I think it's more of a counterpoint to the orignal story, sorta like how the Starship Troopers movie is as much a satire of the book as it is an adaptation of it.
Movie was definitely in the camp that the idea of Precrime was flawed, arresting people for something they've never done is wrong, and keeping teens drugged against their will to do so was awful. Short story wasn't sunshine-and-roses, but it was presented as a good enough thing that literary Anderton was willing to fight *for* it, rather than against it.
As for the Minority Report paradox in the film, I'm not suprised that they didn't go with the
no that's King, Dick's was "Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me"
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I think both the film and the book deal with the whole idea that the reports themselves change the future they see. They just have different takes on it.
CG Artist B: Yea, but look at it this way. We're getting mouse money and state of the art tools to do this. Think of it as a really big practice exercise. Just focus on making the most realistic animals possible.
CG Artist A: Hey, you're right. This is going to be great! We're going to make the biggest, longest tech demo ever and get paid to do it.
From a comment on that review:
That comment deserves an oscar.
Might as well hand over the editing award from Bohemian Rhapsody. Who has it right now anyway?
Also it is nice to have a movie that is that Chinese / Asian American but produced by American studios and not trying to cater to white audiences specifically etc (but in doing so, as has been proven, all people can enjoy)
I cried only a tiny bit
I thought the Jungle Book live action was actually decent and better than expected
The movie goes in the direction of 'no this is fucked these things aren't actually predicting the super accurate future there are many minority reports.'
I’m disappointed they didn’t go with the earlier concept, it definitely felt more alive.
They story as far as I remember basically makes that same point but doesn't view it as an issue in the same way. The minority report in the story is a function of knowing the future via reading the reports. Just like in the film.
Toni Collette did a helluva job playing a woman left with scars after being mentally abused by her mother. Her screaming and nearly convulsing on the floor after finding her daughter's dead body felt viscerally real. She also did an excellent job showing the alternating vindictiveness, indifference, and manic excitement of a certain kind of mentally ill person.
Of the recent horror films I have seen, I like The autopsy of Jane Doe much better. I found the two leads far more believable and relatable, which made the creepiness far more effective.
Specifically, it’s the episode of Hannibal Season 3-1 Anderson never made
Also, it features a moment in which my jaw literally dropped
These are some things that might help encourage you to watch Midsommar
Given that places are trying to do that sort of thing now with facial recognition, it felt believable.
I watched Midsommar last night because I overall liked Hereditary. I didn't hate it, but my impression (and the feeling I got from the audience) was "well, that was a thing." To me, there weren't any stand-out moments like there were in Hereditary.
Also the guy who plays Chidi on The Good Place is in it.
As a general FYI, "mouse money" does not apply to cg artists. A Disney gig looks great on the resume, and you get free access to the parks, but otherwise the pay and employment terms aren't great.
"No one acknowledged how fucked up what was going on was" seems like the exact opposite of everything that went on in Hereditary. "Holy shit everything is falling apart" is like the entire mood of the film.
That clip is flat out embarassing
And it is a case of seeing the future being wonky for the guy doing the seeing in the movie; the only way the setup by the bad guy works is because Anderton is the man who parses through the Precogs' images directly. How else would he know to go to a place he's never been to meet the man he's never met that he is suppose to kill?
Hereditary and Midsommar (vague thematic spoilers for both):
I can't wait for live-action Toy Story.
Well, they turned cartoon movies into live-action theater, then live action movies, so the next logical step would be for Disney to figure out how to bring actual cartoons to life and make them perform.
Look for the live-action Who Framed Roger Rabbit in 2023 where all the live actors are now cartoons and all the cartoon actors are now alive.
Pocahontas was already called The New World, and I hope Disney are not stupid enough to try and step up to Terrence Malick.
That said, I'm still waiting for Tale Spin done a la the Jungle Book. Say Baloo moved away from the jungle and became a pilot. Sign me the hell up for that adaptation.
Instant failure.
This has certainly deflated my interests. That's like my favorite Lion King song next to Circle of Life.
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As far as Pocahontas, the historical rewriting in that movie is problematic as fuck, and I can see Disney being smart enough to not get within 100 yards of a remake in the current environment.