Jeffrey Epstein Co-Conspirator Ghislaine Maxwell Finally Convicted

Hevach

electricitylikesme wrote: »

That touches on something I have been wondering in general? How is Epstein as rich as he is? Like, where did he get that much money considering that until Trump became a thing us outside the US had never heard of him about anything...

He was in investment banking much of his life, and born to wealth to begin with. Like most of the ultrarich he could have sat on his balls his whole life and with a good accountant be almost as rich as he is now.

As for Trump, the US is an immense economy. Trump has a global real estate empire, but plenty of billionaires operate entirely within the US, many in such limited sectors that they're even obscure here in he US. There's literally enough money in he US economy that we have a family of billionaires who do nothing but wholesale a wheat protein food additive used in most dog foods.

zepherin

iTunesIsEvil wrote: »

nexuscrawler wrote: »

He got rich as a hedge fund manager

This is something people are questioning, because he didn't seem to have a large enough base of clientele to be able to leverage into the billionaire-club.

Here's a couple tweets about it from Alan Cole (his bio says "Business Economics and Public Policy @Wharton&quot:

https://twitter.com/AlanMCole/status/1148427098773688320

https://twitter.com/AlanMCole/status/1148433057373970442

Text if you can't see tweets:

Look, I don't have any special knowledge (thank god), but I know some things about:

-distribution of high-end wealth
-billionaire family office structure
-fee structures for asset managers

and how those fit together mathematically. Epstein's self-told life story doesn't add up.

In popular Underpants Gnome form:
1. In a family office with few clients, you'll never be richer than the clients. You get 2-and-20 but they still get, um, 98-80.
2. Okay, so have many clients or big institutional investors.
3. He explicitly forgoes those.
4. ???
5. Billionaire!

If your Billionaire clients are quiet unassuming Cartel members who also engage in human trafficking... it makes a lot of sense.

Or what I've learned from knowing asset managers, is that they tend to double down on investments they think are hot. They generally offer them to their clients, but if they like them they go 4 to 1 leverage on them on their personal trading account...or insider trading.

ArbitraryDescriptor

AngelHedgie wrote: »

This is an interesting theory on Epstein's actions:

(1/13) Let's take as our starting points two givens.
(A.) You are a committed, unrepentant pedophile
(B.) Because of your old job in private banking, you are very connected to lots of very, very wealthy people
We'll also assume a goal:
(Z.) You want to become very rich
(2/13) The obvious route is, well, obvious: you could just be a pimp, offering underage prostitute services to very rich people. This has two problems: you're very disposable (see: DC madam), and it's also not super lucrative. You can't charge millions of dollars up front.
(3/13) The second level though follows instantly: You don't need to charge up front, just get them to have underage sex, and then blackmail them afterwards for hush money. Better ROI, but you're still a liability, and producing and receiving big bribe money raises big questions.
(4/13) So, what to do? Well, the second idea has some merits. First, you need to recruit people in. Have lots of massive parties at your spacious home (check), invite top academics, artists, politicians to encourage people to come (check), and supply lots of young women (check)
(5/13) You don't even have to do anything, and most people invited might even be totally unaware of the real purpose of the parties! But, sooner or later, some billionaire will get handsy, she'll escort him to a room with a hidden camera, things happen. Morning after, you strike.
(6/13) You inform him she was really 15, but you offer him a nice, neat way to buy your silence: a large allocation to your hedge fund, which charges 2/20 (check). To ensure nobody else asks questions, you also take the extraordinary step of demanding power of attorney (check)

Basically, everything that we've seen so far lines up with this.

I don't think you can blackmail enough billionaires to become a billionaire without getting murdered. You can do them "favors" and get critical tips and influence to snowball your existing wealth, but I don't think you get there via straight-up extortion.

zepherin

ArbitraryDescriptor wrote: »

AngelHedgie wrote: »

This is an interesting theory on Epstein's actions:

(1/13) Let's take as our starting points two givens.
(A.) You are a committed, unrepentant pedophile
(B.) Because of your old job in private banking, you are very connected to lots of very, very wealthy people
We'll also assume a goal:
(Z.) You want to become very rich
(2/13) The obvious route is, well, obvious: you could just be a pimp, offering underage prostitute services to very rich people. This has two problems: you're very disposable (see: DC madam), and it's also not super lucrative. You can't charge millions of dollars up front.
(3/13) The second level though follows instantly: You don't need to charge up front, just get them to have underage sex, and then blackmail them afterwards for hush money. Better ROI, but you're still a liability, and producing and receiving big bribe money raises big questions.
(4/13) So, what to do? Well, the second idea has some merits. First, you need to recruit people in. Have lots of massive parties at your spacious home (check), invite top academics, artists, politicians to encourage people to come (check), and supply lots of young women (check)
(5/13) You don't even have to do anything, and most people invited might even be totally unaware of the real purpose of the parties! But, sooner or later, some billionaire will get handsy, she'll escort him to a room with a hidden camera, things happen. Morning after, you strike.
(6/13) You inform him she was really 15, but you offer him a nice, neat way to buy your silence: a large allocation to your hedge fund, which charges 2/20 (check). To ensure nobody else asks questions, you also take the extraordinary step of demanding power of attorney (check)

Basically, everything that we've seen so far lines up with this.

I don't think you can blackmail enough billionaires to become a billionaire without getting murdered. You can do them "favors" and get critical tips and influence to snowball your existing wealth, but I don't think you get there via straight-up extortion.

You just end up fucking dead at that rate. Extortion has a terrible ROI. Because if it costs $10,000 to hire a hit person on the dark web, and they are asking 20 million dollars to keep your secret safe.

The sociopathic rich person is going to pick the less costly alternative.

Captain Inertia

So basically I’ve seen 25 different episodes of SVU based on Epstein huh

shryke

Captain Inertia wrote: »

So basically I’ve seen 25 different episodes of SVU based on Epstein huh

Law & Order: Jeffrey Epstein Unit

TryCatcher

On the Clinton thing, back on 2016 FoxNews was saying that Bill went to multiple flights with Epstein without his Secret Service detail:

Official flight logs filed with the Federal Aviation Administration show Clinton traveled on some of the trips with as many as 10 U.S. Secret Service agents. However, on a five-leg Asia trip between May 22 and May 25, 2002, not a single Secret Service agent is listed. The U.S. Secret Service has declined to answer multiple Freedom of Information Act requests filed by FoxNews.com seeking information on these trips. Clinton would have been required to file a form to dismiss the agent detail, a former Secret Service agent told FoxNews.com.

In response to a separate FOIA request from FoxNews.com, the U.S. Secret Service said it has no records showing agents were ever on the island with Clinton.

A Clinton spokesperson did not return emails requesting comment about the former president’s relationship and travels with Epstein. The Clinton Library said it had no relevant information and does not keep track of Clinton’s travel records.

So, "Bill had the Secret Service around so he didn't rape" is not the gotcha that people think it is. (Nevermind that is likely not true).

Phillishere

Captain Inertia wrote: »

So basically I’ve seen 25 different episodes of SVU based on Epstein huh

People have been writing openly about Epstein and his pimping for decades, and it has always been with a wink and nudge. What's happening is basically a real-world example of the benefits of promoting diversity - more women in the newsrooms and attorney's offices means more people realizing that this is foul.

Here's a good example from the Daily Mail in 1992:

It is to this man that 30-year-old Ghislaine has turned to ease the heartache of her father's shame.

His name is Jeffrey Epstein, a shadowy, almost maverick New York 'property developer' who, for over a year, has helped Ghislaine become a coveted fixture on the Manhattan social scene. During the last year, say friends, she has fallen in love with him, and the couple are inseparable.

DESPITE the dubious fame of having been nominated as Cosmopolitan magazine's Bachelor of the Month, Epstein walked into her life at a time when she was desperately lonely.

Even before her father died a year ago, Ghislaine had split from her great love, Count Gianfranco Cicogna. A dashing, charming member of the Ciga hotels clan, Cicogna was the man who moulded the Ghislaine we now see. He told her where to get her hair cut, and what to wear.

Their affair lasted for four years, and finished in 1990. His new girlfriend is TV-am weathergirl Tania Bryer.

On the rebound, Ghislaine had no permanent boyfriend. And when her father died, she went into a deeper malaise.

But by Epstein's side, Ghislaine is building a respectability in New York which would be impossible in London, where the wounds created by her father cut deepest.

In New York, they adore the progeny of felons as much as the felons themselves.

Epstein is the key. A fortnight ago, they were at a restaurant opening in Manhattan. Ghislaine was billed as the 'celebrity' invitee. She is also a regular guest at his Upper East Side apartment.

His most public association with Ghislaine came, pointedly, when he sat next to her and her mother, Betty, at a tribute dinner at the Plaza Hotel last year in New York in Robert Maxwell's memory.

This was, for Ghislaine, the first step in publicly announcing her deep affection for him.

And yet, like much associated with the Maxwell clan, little is known about Mr Epstein.

One outrageous story links him to the CIA and Mossad. Another that Epstein was a concert pianist. Yet another that he was a maths teacher at an exclusive girls school.

THE most intriguing rumour is that he was a corporate spy hired by big businesses to uncover money that had been embezzled.

But what is the truth about him? Like Maxwell, Epstein is both flamboyant and intensely private.

His telephone number is listed under the name 'Jeffrey Edwards'. The door bell at his home on East 69th Street simply carries the initials 'J.E.'

Any request to speak to Jeffrey Epstein is met with the reply from a male voice: 'He may be here, or he may not. Who wants to know?'

Ghislaine lived in a $ 500-a-week one-bedroom apartment on the Upper East Side close to Jeffrey's home, but a fortnight ago she was reported to have moved to a cheaper studio apartment.

His friends say Epstein's social rise has been accompanied by a remorseless attraction to well-connected, rich and beautiful women. One of his first notable dates was Nikki Haskell, a former TV talk-show hostess who met him six years ago. Haskell was giving some of the most prominent parties in New York, and Epstein, who lived close by, became a regular guest.

'Jeffrey didn't talk about his past, although he claimed to have been a concert pianist,' she said last week.

f=ioniShe experienced Epstein's love of intrigue. 'He told me he was a spy hired by corporations to find major amounts of money which had been embezzled,' she says. 'He made it sound very exciting and glamorous.'

Epstein escorted Haskell to the annual BEST Awards in New York, a meretricious event celebrating the best dressed people in America.

Haskell said: 'In the middle, Jeffrey got up and said 'I have to go'. When I asked why, he said: 'Just look at me as a doctor who has to make a house call.' Who was he meeting at midnight on a Saturday?'

Dorothy Sowell, another New York socialite, came across Epstein at roughly the same time. 'Jeffrey is the type of person whose stories sound far-fetched, but you never know when you will run into him,' she said at her Park Avenue apartment. 'There is something about him that must ring true.'

Epstein told Dorothy Sowell that he had once been a stockbroker and investment banker for the Bear Stearns securities group. But the National Association of Securities Dealers has no record of him with that company.

According to friends, Epstein was born and raised in New York. His parents were relatively poor, and now live in a house he bought for them in Palm Beach, Florida. He appears to have an inexhaustible supply of money and yet no one seems able to answer the question of precisely what the source is.

HIS Madison Avenue office is decorated with fabulous works of art, and he ha been known to drive a Silver Spirit Rolls-Royce.

He once lived in a building which also housed socialite and fashion guru, Mary McFadden, and several children of the Walkmeister family, part of New York's tightly-knit circle of Jewish philanthropists.

According to a close friend, Epstein is now the right-hand man of Leslie Wexner, the founder of the Limited Corporation, a giant retailing chain. Ghislaine's New York friends are very supportive of her relationship with Epstein whom they see as a gentle father figure.

Burnage

AngelHedgie wrote: »

This is an interesting theory on Epstein's actions:

(1/13) Let's take as our starting points two givens.
(A.) You are a committed, unrepentant pedophile
(B.) Because of your old job in private banking, you are very connected to lots of very, very wealthy people
We'll also assume a goal:
(Z.) You want to become very rich
(2/13) The obvious route is, well, obvious: you could just be a pimp, offering underage prostitute services to very rich people. This has two problems: you're very disposable (see: DC madam), and it's also not super lucrative. You can't charge millions of dollars up front.
(3/13) The second level though follows instantly: You don't need to charge up front, just get them to have underage sex, and then blackmail them afterwards for hush money. Better ROI, but you're still a liability, and producing and receiving big bribe money raises big questions.
(4/13) So, what to do? Well, the second idea has some merits. First, you need to recruit people in. Have lots of massive parties at your spacious home (check), invite top academics, artists, politicians to encourage people to come (check), and supply lots of young women (check)
(5/13) You don't even have to do anything, and most people invited might even be totally unaware of the real purpose of the parties! But, sooner or later, some billionaire will get handsy, she'll escort him to a room with a hidden camera, things happen. Morning after, you strike.
(6/13) You inform him she was really 15, but you offer him a nice, neat way to buy your silence: a large allocation to your hedge fund, which charges 2/20 (check). To ensure nobody else asks questions, you also take the extraordinary step of demanding power of attorney (check)

Basically, everything that we've seen so far lines up with this.

Something that keeps jumping out at me is that they apparently recovered CDs from Epstein's safe that were labelled "Young [name] + [name]". If I were going to have to think of a way to label some blackmail videos, well, that would certainly be one easy method.

Astaereth

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1148607060155801600?s=21

Raju is a CNN correspondent

A sign that perhaps Trump does have some exposure here?

Fawst

Burnage wrote: »

Something that keeps jumping out at me is that they apparently recovered CDs from Epstein's safe that were labelled "Young [name] + [name]". If I were going to have to think of a way to label some blackmail videos, well, that would certainly be one easy method.

Fucking yikes.

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Veagle

Astaereth wrote: »

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1148607060155801600?s=21

Raju is a CNN correspondent

A sign that perhaps Trump does have some exposure here?

Preacher wrote: »

Heffling wrote: »

Preacher wrote: »

Honestly that Barr isn't unrecusing himself tells you all you need to know regarding Trump. If this was going to blow back on Trump he'd be there front and center to shut it down.

Barr recusing himself isn't because Trump is innocent, it's because he doesn't want to get thrown under the bus by Trump

I have little doubt if this was going to come anywhere near the GOP Barr would unrecuse himself. I'd lay hard money to that effect.

Well, I hope you found some takers for that bet.

DevoutlyApathetic

Astaereth wrote: »

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1148607060155801600?s=21

Raju is a CNN correspondent

A sign that perhaps Trump does have some exposure here?

Note that it doesn't say anything about what the ethics folk told him, just that he asked first.

Preacher

Welp someone told Barr something between yesterday and today.

daveNYC

electricitylikesme wrote: »

It strikes me that Epstein is unlikely to be technically savvy enough to have zeroed out the timestamps on those disks. Presumably if we find any of the victims, then establishing their age is probably just a matter of determining their current age and subtracting the file timestamps.

If it's blackmail material that was locked in a safe, zeroing out the timestamp might not have been very high on the list of priorities.

enlightenedbum

It's just as likely that those labels mean either:

1) Victim 1 + Victim 2
2) Victim 1 + Maxwell

Veagle

https://twitter.com/SecretaryAcosta/status/1148618145671917571

Secretary Acosta is the man that let Epstein off easy and tried to hide the extent of his crimes.

Preacher

Ha yeah good play Acosta "Oh man if I knew then what I know now..." What a scumbag

Madican

I finally understand the computer from I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream

AngelHedgie

Preacher wrote: »

Ha yeah good play Acosta "Oh man if I knew then what I know now..." What a scumbag

He can feel the blade at his neck, I would imagine. I do love that these tweets could torpedo the Epstein legal team's claim that the Acosta deal was globally binding, though.

Miami Herald reporter Julie K. Brown (who brought this all to light) had an excellent response to the goose:

https://twitter.com/jkbjournalist/status/1148628285489913857

Edit: Acosta is running at a 10:1 ratio. You done fucked up good, son.

Mild Confusion

That twitter feed of Acosta is blowing the hell up. The man has no shame.

Fawst

Veagle wrote: »

https://twitter.com/SecretaryAcosta/status/1148618145671917571

Secretary Acosta is the man that let Epstein off easy and tried to hide the extent of his crimes.

I damn near choked on my lunch just now reading this. The fucking balls on these motherfuckers...

DarkPrimus

Fawst wrote: »

Veagle wrote: »

https://twitter.com/SecretaryAcosta/status/1148618145671917571

Secretary Acosta is the man that let Epstein off easy and tried to hide the extent of his crimes.

I damn near choked on my lunch just now reading this. The fucking balls on these motherfuckers...

https://twitter.com/SecretaryAcosta/status/1148618146997309441

Interesting how he's framing it as though Epstein got what he deserved back in the day... while leaving out what he actually got back in the day.

Martini_Philosopher

Fawst wrote: »

Veagle wrote: »

https://twitter.com/SecretaryAcosta/status/1148618145671917571

Secretary Acosta is the man that let Epstein off easy and tried to hide the extent of his crimes.

I damn near choked on my lunch just now reading this. The fucking balls on these motherfuckers...

These aren't the acts of the brave. These are the acts of cowards fearing for their own skin. They lack gumption of any sort. Were it present to begin with, these acts would have come to a far quicker end.

Shorty

yeah that should at the very least say "go to jail", not go to jail

dude only had to be in prison while he was asleep

Gaddez

I'm not gonna lie, I'm a tiny bit impressed by Acosta trying to spin this as justice having been served all those years ago.

Still disgusted, but like fawst: a tiny bit impressed.

AngelHedgie

DarkPrimus wrote: »

Fawst wrote: »

Veagle wrote: »

https://twitter.com/SecretaryAcosta/status/1148618145671917571

Secretary Acosta is the man that let Epstein off easy and tried to hide the extent of his crimes.

I damn near choked on my lunch just now reading this. The fucking balls on these motherfuckers...

https://twitter.com/SecretaryAcosta/status/1148618146997309441

Interesting how he's framing it as though Epstein got what he deserved back in the day... while leaving out what he actually got back in the day.

It's not interesting, it's telling. He's creating a "reasonable sounding" lie, so that he can tell the right wing true believers that he had no idea, even though we have the fucking receipts that he did.

That said, I don't think this saves him from getting Nifong'd, because the prosecutorial community does not want Alex Acosta to be their public image.

Captain Inertia

Phillishere wrote: »

Captain Inertia wrote: »

So basically I’ve seen 25 different episodes of SVU based on Epstein huh

People have been writing openly about Epstein and his pimping for decades, and it has always been with a wink and nudge. What's happening is basically a real-world example of the benefits of promoting diversity - more women in the newsrooms and attorney's offices means more people realizing that this is foul.

Here's a good example from the Daily Mail in 1992:

It is to this man that 30-year-old Ghislaine has turned to ease the heartache of her father's shame.

His name is Jeffrey Epstein, a shadowy, almost maverick New York 'property developer' who, for over a year, has helped Ghislaine become a coveted fixture on the Manhattan social scene. During the last year, say friends, she has fallen in love with him, and the couple are inseparable.

DESPITE the dubious fame of having been nominated as Cosmopolitan magazine's Bachelor of the Month, Epstein walked into her life at a time when she was desperately lonely.

Even before her father died a year ago, Ghislaine had split from her great love, Count Gianfranco Cicogna. A dashing, charming member of the Ciga hotels clan, Cicogna was the man who moulded the Ghislaine we now see. He told her where to get her hair cut, and what to wear.

Their affair lasted for four years, and finished in 1990. His new girlfriend is TV-am weathergirl Tania Bryer.

On the rebound, Ghislaine had no permanent boyfriend. And when her father died, she went into a deeper malaise.

But by Epstein's side, Ghislaine is building a respectability in New York which would be impossible in London, where the wounds created by her father cut deepest.

In New York, they adore the progeny of felons as much as the felons themselves.

Epstein is the key. A fortnight ago, they were at a restaurant opening in Manhattan. Ghislaine was billed as the 'celebrity' invitee. She is also a regular guest at his Upper East Side apartment.

His most public association with Ghislaine came, pointedly, when he sat next to her and her mother, Betty, at a tribute dinner at the Plaza Hotel last year in New York in Robert Maxwell's memory.

This was, for Ghislaine, the first step in publicly announcing her deep affection for him.

And yet, like much associated with the Maxwell clan, little is known about Mr Epstein.

One outrageous story links him to the CIA and Mossad. Another that Epstein was a concert pianist. Yet another that he was a maths teacher at an exclusive girls school.

THE most intriguing rumour is that he was a corporate spy hired by big businesses to uncover money that had been embezzled.

But what is the truth about him? Like Maxwell, Epstein is both flamboyant and intensely private.

His telephone number is listed under the name 'Jeffrey Edwards'. The door bell at his home on East 69th Street simply carries the initials 'J.E.'

Any request to speak to Jeffrey Epstein is met with the reply from a male voice: 'He may be here, or he may not. Who wants to know?'

Ghislaine lived in a $ 500-a-week one-bedroom apartment on the Upper East Side close to Jeffrey's home, but a fortnight ago she was reported to have moved to a cheaper studio apartment.

His friends say Epstein's social rise has been accompanied by a remorseless attraction to well-connected, rich and beautiful women. One of his first notable dates was Nikki Haskell, a former TV talk-show hostess who met him six years ago. Haskell was giving some of the most prominent parties in New York, and Epstein, who lived close by, became a regular guest.

'Jeffrey didn't talk about his past, although he claimed to have been a concert pianist,' she said last week.

f=ioniShe experienced Epstein's love of intrigue. 'He told me he was a spy hired by corporations to find major amounts of money which had been embezzled,' she says. 'He made it sound very exciting and glamorous.'

Epstein escorted Haskell to the annual BEST Awards in New York, a meretricious event celebrating the best dressed people in America.

Haskell said: 'In the middle, Jeffrey got up and said 'I have to go'. When I asked why, he said: 'Just look at me as a doctor who has to make a house call.' Who was he meeting at midnight on a Saturday?'

Dorothy Sowell, another New York socialite, came across Epstein at roughly the same time. 'Jeffrey is the type of person whose stories sound far-fetched, but you never know when you will run into him,' she said at her Park Avenue apartment. 'There is something about him that must ring true.'

Epstein told Dorothy Sowell that he had once been a stockbroker and investment banker for the Bear Stearns securities group. But the National Association of Securities Dealers has no record of him with that company.

According to friends, Epstein was born and raised in New York. His parents were relatively poor, and now live in a house he bought for them in Palm Beach, Florida. He appears to have an inexhaustible supply of money and yet no one seems able to answer the question of precisely what the source is.

HIS Madison Avenue office is decorated with fabulous works of art, and he ha been known to drive a Silver Spirit Rolls-Royce.

He once lived in a building which also housed socialite and fashion guru, Mary McFadden, and several children of the Walkmeister family, part of New York's tightly-knit circle of Jewish philanthropists.

According to a close friend, Epstein is now the right-hand man of Leslie Wexner, the founder of the Limited Corporation, a giant retailing chain. Ghislaine's New York friends are very supportive of her relationship with Epstein whom they see as a gentle father figure.

Huh, did not realize he was tied to Wexner, who has owned Victoria’s Secret since 1982 and is basically the owner of Columbus

Ark Evensong

Shorty wrote: »

yeah that should at the very least say "go to jail", not go to jail

dude only had to be in prison while he was asleep

Look, Acosta had him "go to jail" 400 times. What more could you possibly want?

joshofalltrades

ElJeffe wrote: »

Let's keep discussion of Trump at minimum here, since there's very little evidence that he's actually relevant to this story yet.

Let’s not forget that Trump was credibly accused of rape at one of Epstein’s parties, to the point that a suit was filed against them in June of 2016.

The only reason the suit didn’t go anywhere is because it was dropped in November of 2016, for some reason. :?

enlightenedbum

Huh, did not realize he was tied to Wexner, who has owned Victoria’s Secret since 1982 and is basically the owner of Columbus

Their relationship is weeeeird. Wexner basically gave him the giant house in New York. And gave Epstein power of attorney, so Epstein signed for both sides in the deal.

zepherin

AngelHedgie wrote: »

DarkPrimus wrote: »

Fawst wrote: »

Veagle wrote: »

https://twitter.com/SecretaryAcosta/status/1148618145671917571

Secretary Acosta is the man that let Epstein off easy and tried to hide the extent of his crimes.

I damn near choked on my lunch just now reading this. The fucking balls on these motherfuckers...

https://twitter.com/SecretaryAcosta/status/1148618146997309441

Interesting how he's framing it as though Epstein got what he deserved back in the day... while leaving out what he actually got back in the day.

It's not interesting, it's telling. He's creating a "reasonable sounding" lie, so that he can tell the right wing true believers that he had no idea, even though we have the fucking receipts that he did.

That said, I don't think this saves him from getting Nifong'd, because the prosecutorial community does not want Alex Acosta to be their public image.

I don't think he'll be Disbarred like Nifong, but I'm pretty sure Trump will fire him and get a new secretary.

I think this must be a record for cabinet members fired or resigned during a single presidential term.

mittens

Yeah, I'm guessing the Wexner State University of Ohio in Columbus (d/b/a The Ohio State Univ.) is going to pull a Harvard and keep all his donated money but geez, the entire hospital is named after Wexner, as well as the cool arts building and I'm sure countless other things on campus. I was at a party at Wexner's estate once; I didn't get to go in the house but instead the "party barn" which is exactly what you'd imagine, a huge indoor/outdoor space devoted entirely to throwing soirees. I can report there were no massage parlours there but the sushi was good and his daughter was nice.

Kipling217

People where suspecting how Epstein made his money and try to explain how he became a billionaire. My I make my suggestion?

1) He is a man without scruples willing to horrible things and also knows how to "handle" money. Who meets members of:
2) Drug cartels needing people to turn their money legit. I.E. The services of a financial institution that can launder huge sums of money like a mutual fund. Leading to:
3) Profit!

The trafficking and blackmail was just insurance to protect his main job.
Meaning there is a distinct chance that his best plan is to stay in solitary confinement.

Phillishere

enlightenedbum wrote: »

Huh, did not realize he was tied to Wexner, who has owned Victoria’s Secret since 1982 and is basically the owner of Columbus

Their relationship is weeeeird. Wexner basically gave him the giant house in New York. And gave Epstein power of attorney, so Epstein signed for both sides in the deal.

Reading through the Lexisnexis record on the guy, and there are a ton of connections between him and Harvey Weinstein. I'm starting to get a feel from the articles that one of Epstein's roles was to play matchmaker between Wall Street, Washington, and Hollywood money. Beyond the pimping, he's also the guy who hosted the parties where politicians and financiers got to hobnob with celebrities.

AngelHedgie

Kipling217 wrote: »

People where suspecting how Epstein made his money and try to explain how he became a billionaire. My I make my suggestion?

1) He is a man without scruples willing to horrible things and also knows how to "handle" money. Who meets members of:
2) Drug cartels needing people to turn their money legit. I.E. The services of a financial institution that can launder huge sums of money like a mutual fund. Leading to:
3) Profit!

The trafficking and blackmail was just insurance to protect his main job.
Meaning there is a distinct chance that his best plan is to stay in solitary confinement.

It's been pointed out that his rise coincides with the influx of the Russian mob in the 80s.

enlightenedbum

And everything continues to get weirder

When Acosta was being vetted (I didn't know this administration did that!) he was asked about Epstein:

“Is the Epstein case going to cause a problem [for confirmation hearings]?” Acosta had been asked. Acosta had explained, breezily, apparently, that back in the day he’d had just one meeting on the Epstein case. He’d cut the non-prosecution deal with one of Epstein’s attorneys because he had “been told” to back off, that Epstein was above his pay grade. “I was told Epstein ‘belonged to intelligence’ and to leave it alone,” he told his interviewers in the Trump transition, who evidently thought that was a sufficient answer and went ahead and hired Acosta. (The Labor Department had no comment when asked about this.)

Astaereth

Can somebody explain why rich people gave this guy power of attorney? Isn’t that when you give someone control over your entire legal life?

TryCatcher

AngelHedgie wrote: »

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https://twitter.com/SecretaryAcosta/status/1148618145671917571

Secretary Acosta is the man that let Epstein off easy and tried to hide the extent of his crimes.

I damn near choked on my lunch just now reading this. The fucking balls on these motherfuckers...

https://twitter.com/SecretaryAcosta/status/1148618146997309441

Interesting how he's framing it as though Epstein got what he deserved back in the day... while leaving out what he actually got back in the day.

It's not interesting, it's telling. He's creating a "reasonable sounding" lie, so that he can tell the right wing true believers that he had no idea, even though we have the fucking receipts that he did.

That said, I don't think this saves him from getting Nifong'd, because the prosecutorial community does not want Alex Acosta to be their public image.

For the prize of being able to say "Convicted Pedophile Bill Clinton" the right-wingers will easily throw Acosta under all of the buses.