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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    “No that’s not Colombo, that’s Slightly Bigger Colombo”

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    TIL that my ipad thinks that Colombo is a word and Columbo isn't.

    My computer too, apparently.

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    TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    He dresses like a guy who knows how to be comfortable.
    I could go for a nice hot bowl of colombo.

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    WotanAnubisWotanAnubis Registered User regular
    He dresses like a guy who knows how to be comfortable.
    Watching some episodes, I'm starting to think Columbo would have a lot more trouble solving cases if the murderers didn't insist on weaving a bunch of fantastical tales at every one of his little 'confused' questions. Seems nobody ever told these people to never talk to the cops.

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    TheySlashThemTheySlashThem Registered User regular
    He is a regular guy.
    that actually kind of adds to how much of an inversion of the usual cop show narrative columbo is, now that you mention it

    in most police procedurals, the only people who EVER refuse to talk, ask to see a warrant, ask for a lawyer, or otherwise exercise their rights when dealing with the cops, are the culprits (and we all know why this is the case, of course)

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    tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
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    apart from the narrative necessity, I think there's a strong psychological factor tied to Columbo's shambling grandfather schtick. He's clearly a bumbling idiot, so it seems harmless to spin him a story. And being rude to such a genial duffer by refusing to talk to him would require a will of absolute steel.

    Columbo would crack me like quail egg in five minutes and I probably wouldn't even notice.

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    Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    He is a good detective.
    Plus all the murderers are smug bastards who are probably getting off on fooling the police initially, and then they feel like they can't just turn it off once Columbo keeps digging lest they seem more suspicious

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    NaphtaliNaphtali Hazy + Flow SeaRegistered User regular
    tynic wrote: »
    apart from the narrative necessity, I think there's a strong psychological factor tied to Columbo's shambling grandfather schtick. He's clearly a bumbling idiot, so it seems harmless to spin him a story. And being rude to such a genial duffer by refusing to talk to him would require a will of absolute steel.

    Columbo would crack me like quail egg in five minutes and I probably wouldn't even notice.

    you'd be the one handing over the pharaoh's staff then, you're saying

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    tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
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    Naphtali wrote: »
    tynic wrote: »
    apart from the narrative necessity, I think there's a strong psychological factor tied to Columbo's shambling grandfather schtick. He's clearly a bumbling idiot, so it seems harmless to spin him a story. And being rude to such a genial duffer by refusing to talk to him would require a will of absolute steel.

    Columbo would crack me like quail egg in five minutes and I probably wouldn't even notice.

    you'd be the one handing over the pharaoh's staff then, you're saying

    the fact I came out on the winning side of that game is a searing indictment of the detective skills of everyone else in the room.

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    NaphtaliNaphtali Hazy + Flow SeaRegistered User regular
    tynic wrote: »
    Naphtali wrote: »
    tynic wrote: »
    apart from the narrative necessity, I think there's a strong psychological factor tied to Columbo's shambling grandfather schtick. He's clearly a bumbling idiot, so it seems harmless to spin him a story. And being rude to such a genial duffer by refusing to talk to him would require a will of absolute steel.

    Columbo would crack me like quail egg in five minutes and I probably wouldn't even notice.

    you'd be the one handing over the pharaoh's staff then, you're saying

    the fact I came out on the winning side of that game is a searing indictment of the detective skills of everyone else in the room.

    they failed to ask one more question, clearly

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    tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
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    Naphtali wrote: »
    tynic wrote: »
    Naphtali wrote: »
    tynic wrote: »
    apart from the narrative necessity, I think there's a strong psychological factor tied to Columbo's shambling grandfather schtick. He's clearly a bumbling idiot, so it seems harmless to spin him a story. And being rude to such a genial duffer by refusing to talk to him would require a will of absolute steel.

    Columbo would crack me like quail egg in five minutes and I probably wouldn't even notice.

    you'd be the one handing over the pharaoh's staff then, you're saying

    the fact I came out on the winning side of that game is a searing indictment of the detective skills of everyone else in the room.

    they failed to ask one more question, clearly

    In the case of the detective, this is actually literally true because if he'd asked one more question I would have had to show him my ultimate goal card instead of my decoy goal card.
    But my decoy goal card cast me as a 19th century version of Michelle from 'Allo 'Allo and I was playing that to the hilt so I don't really blame him.

    Also I've always wanted to hiss "Listen very carefully, I shall say this only once" in a french accent in a setting where it's both appropriate and relevant. So many bucket list moments were hit that evening.

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    wanderingwandering Russia state-affiliated media Registered User regular
    Looks kind of like a basset hound if you kinda squint, and that is adorable.
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    tynic wrote: »
    I'd go for Natasha Lyonne or Ilana Glazer, myself

    oh yeah she'd kill that role
    yeah wrap it up, we're done, Natasha Lyonne Columbo is now what I need
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    TefTef Registered User regular
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    What’s the next big much-lived series revival, oh Nostradamus?

    (Poker Face Owns)

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    PsykomaPsykoma Registered User regular
    Why do I remember this thread like it was being posted in like a few months ago

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Psykoma wrote: »
    Why do I remember this thread like it was being posted in like a few months ago

    Because we were talking about it in the other thread.

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    Librarian's ghostLibrarian's ghost Librarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSpork Registered User regular
    Peter Falk is a gorgeous hunk of man.
    I mean I am almost always talking about Columbo.

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    RetabaRetaba A Cultist Registered User regular
    I've noticed some anime detective shows getting mentioned and I wanted to toss in one of my personal favs, Neuro. A demon bird from hell who eats mysterious comes to earth to find the best food. Very much not the most compassionate but still enjoyable.

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    He is a good detective.
    Psykoma wrote: »
    Why do I remember this thread like it was being posted in like a few months ago

    because 2020-2023 has only been like three months

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    Psykoma wrote: »
    Why do I remember this thread like it was being posted in like a few months ago

    what the fuck what happened to time

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    sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    I remember this thread!

    I was gonna write a Star Wars mystery and I was just gonna have the main character be space Columbo.

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    JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    I watched Only Murders in the Building a few months ago and gosh that show was so much better than I was expecting/fearing

    I love Steve Martin/Martin Short to death but I was really worried it was going to be this very cozy, old-people-safe, closed-off-from-reality thing like those little paperback mystery novels about an old lady's cats who solve crime (this is real btw).

    my second thought was that, if it wasn't some dotty old person fare, it would just be a very good but very effervescent super absurd light comedy a la Three Amigos, something you have a nice chuckle at and then move on with your life

    instead, it kind of hit me where I live? it's still very funny and absurd, and it is about old people but it feels like it's about them in the present day and having to interact with the complexities of the world, and sometimes this went to places that felt fairly raw and real and made me feel stuff about things, while also having door slamming and farce and silliness

    also the theme song rules.

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    valhalla130valhalla130 13 Dark Shield Perceives the GodsRegistered User regular
    He dresses like a guy who knows how to be comfortable.
    I listened to a podcast that mentioned it figured it would be something safe my 72 year old mom and I could watch together. We really don't like the same stuff, and I don't want her to be alone all the time, so I try to do stuff with her, but I'm usually bored.

    Not only did we both watch it and enjoy it, but my 26 year old daughter liked it also. It was pretty good and we're waiting for season 3.

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    miscellaneousinsanitymiscellaneousinsanity grass grows, birds fly, sun shines, and brother, i hurt peopleRegistered User regular
    Peter Falk is a gorgeous hunk of man.
    hello columbo thread here is a columbo writeup my pal wrote up

    https://www.vulture.com/article/best-columbo-episodes-rich-weirdos.html

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    Only Murders works as a show that has characters of wildly different ages because it uses that to flavor everything rather than trying to make some larger point that THIS generation is like THIS and THAT generation is like THAT.

    Also, Nathan Lane is there and they let him fuckin' cook

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    valhalla130valhalla130 13 Dark Shield Perceives the GodsRegistered User regular
    He dresses like a guy who knows how to be comfortable.
    Okay, which of you guys spoke this into existence? It's not Columbo, but Natasha Lyonne is starring in a new Peacock show called Poker Face.
    A mystery-of-the-week series following Charlie Cale, who has an extraordinary ability to determine when someone is lying.

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    TefTef Registered User regular
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    Oh buddy

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    Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    edited February 2023
    Looks kind of like a basset hound if you kinda squint, and that is adorable.
    Okay, which of you guys spoke this into existence? It's not Columbo, but Natasha Lyonne is starring in a new Peacock show called Poker Face.
    A mystery-of-the-week series following Charlie Cale, who has an extraordinary ability to determine when someone is lying.

    see, if this is just about being a detective that's good at her job I'd be all for it

    but this sounds like detective + The Gift. And I've seen it done with Psyche, and with Monk, and with the Dead Zone, and with the Mentalist, and with Hannibal, and so on and so forth ad nauseum

    the point of Columbo was that he was a blue collar shmo who solved crimes because he was very good at it, and used his lowbrow persona to get people to underestimate him. he wasn't special, which is why watching him solve his cases was so special

    this is very much the secret of success for the Benoit Blanc character - he's smart, but not brilliant, and he mostly gets results by being willing to look past the obvious and consider possibilities others won't because they're too racist/rich/privileged/all of the above

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    milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    He dresses like a guy who knows how to be comfortable.
    Okay, which of you guys spoke this into existence? It's not Columbo, but Natasha Lyonne is starring in a new Peacock show called Poker Face.
    A mystery-of-the-week series following Charlie Cale, who has an extraordinary ability to determine when someone is lying.

    see, if this is just about being a detective that's good at her job I'd be all for it

    but this sounds like detective + The Gift. And I've seen it done with Psyche, and with Monk, and with the Dead Zone, and with the Mentalist, and with Hannibal, and so on and so forth ad nauseum

    the point of Columbo was that he was a blue collar shmo who solved crimes because he was very good at it, and used his lowbrow persona to get people to underestimate him. he wasn't special, which is why watching him solve his cases was so special

    this is very much the secret of success for the Benoit Blanc character - he's smart, but not brilliant, and he mostly gets results by being willing to look past the obvious and consider possibilities others won't because they're too racist/rich/privileged/all of the above

    Another thing about Columbo and Benoit Blanc is that both characters are clearly living for the thrill of detectiving; they aren't forced into it by anything, they are there because they find doing their job fun, and that helps carry the actual mysteries being fun as well.

    You can obviously switch things up but I do think that the simplicity of the characters and their roles is a huge strength!

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    ChallChall Registered User regular
    I've enjoyed Poker Face so far. It's a little bit different because the main character is on the run and stops at a new place just long enough to get involved in the crime enough to want to help before moving on.

    They do play up the "she just knows when someone's lying" bit at the beginning but it's not played as a psychic or magical thing, just an intuition that steers her in the right direction.

    I definitely think it's worth a try just for the writing, and it's nice to be able to watch a detective show without the heroes being cops.

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    valhalla130valhalla130 13 Dark Shield Perceives the GodsRegistered User regular
    He dresses like a guy who knows how to be comfortable.
    Is Benoit Blanc the character in Knives Out/Glass Onion? I ought to watch those if he's getting compared to Columbo.

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    A duck!A duck! Moderator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
    Looks kind of like a basset hound if you kinda squint, and that is adorable.
    Is Benoit Blanc the character in Knives Out/Glass Onion? I ought to watch those if he's getting compared to Columbo.

    He is, and the two movies have a very strong Agatha Christie vibe to them. The first movie even features people watching Murder, She Wrote to drive it home.

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    MatevMatev Cero Miedo Registered User regular
    Is Benoit Blanc the character in Knives Out/Glass Onion? I ought to watch those if he's getting compared to Columbo.

    Yah, I can wholeheartedly recommend both movies if you want a detective that's clever, but not inhuman (Or inhumane, cause fuck knows we have too many smart 'quirky' asshole detectives also these days)

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