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I'm wondering why we haven't seen a lightsaber dagger yet. Closest we've got is Ahsoka with her smaller off-hand blade. But a dagger, or even two, seems like something we'd have seen by now.
I'm wondering why we haven't seen a lightsaber dagger yet. Closest we've got is Ahsoka with her smaller off-hand blade. But a dagger, or even two, seems like something we'd have seen by now.
Especially with how common shotos have been in the games since KOTOR.
From what I've read it seems like it's a new time period with a multi media approach. So probably novels and comics at first (and toys), then if they take off maybe TV or other more cost intensive formats.
I'm wondering why we haven't seen a lightsaber dagger yet. Closest we've got is Ahsoka with her smaller off-hand blade. But a dagger, or even two, seems like something we'd have seen by now.
I'm wondering why we haven't seen a lightsaber dagger yet. Closest we've got is Ahsoka with her smaller off-hand blade. But a dagger, or even two, seems like something we'd have seen by now.
Isn’t that basically a vibroblade?
Basically, yeah. Although I don't think a vibroblade can cut through anything. Or can it?
I'm wondering why we haven't seen a lightsaber dagger yet. Closest we've got is Ahsoka with her smaller off-hand blade. But a dagger, or even two, seems like something we'd have seen by now.
Isn’t that basically a vibroblade?
Basically, yeah. Although I don't think a vibroblade can cut through anything. Or can it?
Also, can a vibroblade fully block a lightsaber?
I don't think vibroblades can cut through everything, and they operate under different mechanics than lightsabers.
To the second question, that depends entirely on if the author wants them to. KotOR vibroblades (and even normal blades) could block a lightsaber because they were all made with super rare cortosis weave blades (so rare that literally every junk trader in the galaxy stocks it), but elsewhere in the old EU using a vibroblade against a lightsaber is just a quick way to get a much, much shorter vibroblade.
There are short lightsabers. Used by Luke against Lumiya and her light whip in the old comics. I'm guessing he used his main saber to block and wrap the whip up, then close with the shorter one, but I've not read them.
KotOR had short lightsabers that reduced the penalties for dual wielding if you had them in your off hand (as opposed to two full sized sabers). Those were more short swords than daggers though, so maybe not what you're looking for.
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Lightsaber loose ball of rope.
You just kinda... chuck it at people and physics takes care of the rest.
I'm wondering why we haven't seen a lightsaber dagger yet. Closest we've got is Ahsoka with her smaller off-hand blade. But a dagger, or even two, seems like something we'd have seen by now.
Isn’t that basically a vibroblade?
Basically, yeah. Although I don't think a vibroblade can cut through anything. Or can it?
Also, can a vibroblade fully block a lightsaber?
Vibroblades can cut through a lot of stuff, but armor can definitely protect against them (the Mandalorian's armor, even before he got beskar everything, was able to deflect hits from vibroblade pikes).
Vibroblades themselves are made of metal and are basically just a knife when not whirring it up. A lightsaber would just chop right through them (unless, going from EU stuff, they're cortosis-reinforced like the flavor text explains in the KotoR games).
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I'm wondering why we haven't seen a lightsaber dagger yet. Closest we've got is Ahsoka with her smaller off-hand blade. But a dagger, or even two, seems like something we'd have seen by now.
Isn’t that basically a vibroblade?
Basically, yeah. Although I don't think a vibroblade can cut through anything. Or can it?
KOTOR makes saber-proof vibroblades super common because they want something like the very first drafts of A New Hope, where even the stormtroopers had lightsabers. IMO, it's 50/50 because, like Lucas, they're inspired by the old movies like Flash Gordon, Zorro and Robin Hood where the hero swordfights through dozens of mooks before facing their match in a fencing duel, and because the system they used for the first games was basically D&D with a new coat of paint.
Magnaguards with their electro staffs where already doing fine (for a non jedi) againt lightsabres. Jedi guard also had neat two bladed lightsabres. So there are really already some good examples of those kind of weapons for Rey to use.
You theoretically can chop through the handle if you get a good hit in on a lot of real life spears. Albeit not as easily as a lightsaber through a material that's not explicitly resistant.
They're still dominant in combat, whether for duels or mass combat. A sword is just more convenient to carry around.
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FencingsaxIt is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understandingGNU Terry PratchettRegistered Userregular
If the Death Star is powered by kyber crystals, does that make it a lightsaber?
I guess technically it shoots lightsabers. That's pretty cool!
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Rumors are circulating that Pedro Pascal and Disney have agreed to terms that Pascal will only do ADR work from here on out in The Mandalorian, so that he may be free to pursue other projects. Obviously I’m sure Pascal would be on-set if he was shooting a scene without the helmet.
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Rumors are circulating that Pedro Pascal and Disney have agreed to terms that Pascal will only do ADR work from here on out in The Mandalorian, so that he may be free to pursue other projects. Obviously I’m sure Pascal would be on-set if he was shooting a scene without the helmet.
Rumors are circulating that Pedro Pascal and Disney have agreed to terms that Pascal will only do ADR work from here on out in The Mandalorian, so that he may be free to pursue other projects. Obviously I’m sure Pascal would be on-set if he was shooting a scene without the helmet.
Wasn't this already the case last season?
Last year he was absent because he was busy. If this is true, going forward he’ll be absent by choice.
If the Death Star is powered by kyber crystals, does that make it a lightsaber?
I've said before that IMO it's a tool of the Dark Side, of blood magic. It's an obsidian sacrificial dagger that kills worlds. And guess whose bony hand is on the hilt, as he orders those trillions of murders?
Yeah. There's a reason Palpatine built one, and then another as soon as the first was destroyed. Sure, it's an effective terror weapon, but this is also a galaxy where magic is real... and yet, knowledge of that has been deliberately and quite effectively suppressed, by someone.
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KOTOR makes saber-proof vibroblades super common because they want something like the very first drafts of A New Hope, where even the stormtroopers had lightsabers. IMO, it's 50/50 because, like Lucas, they're inspired by the old movies like Flash Gordon, Zorro and Robin Hood where the hero swordfights through dozens of mooks before facing their match in a fencing duel, and because the system they used for the first games was basically D&D with a new coat of paint.
I like to think that in the Old Republic saber-resistant weaponry and armor materials were more widely available because both Jedi and Sith were more common and always a-feudin' and a-fightin', so it was worth it to go to the trouble to get it...but also it's rarer in later eras because it happened so much that they eventually just used most of it up.
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Huh, I'd never even spotted the problem with the dialogue there, even though one of my main complaints about TLJ is that it doesn't care about the story or the characters nearly as much as it cares about what the audience is thinking about.
There is nothing to imply Rey would say her parents were 'nobodies', because there's no reason to believe she thinks they were 'somebody important' rather than just...her parents. It's the audience that would have that shocked reaction. Oh my god she's not the daughter of Obi-Wan and Maul. Rey wasn't wondering which important lore characters birthed her.
She might have reacted poorly in that scene and said they were bad people or didn't care about her or something, but her calling them 'nobodies' when pressed doesn't fit.
Just to be clear, I like her parents not being anyone important to the universe.
The biggest problem I have with that scene is that it has by far the most interesting premise of the ST, and immediately squanders it - the idea of unwinding the First Order from within. But it basically can't happen, because there's no way you're going into a 3rd movie without a huge space battle lined up (though ironically, they could've done that and TRoS's antagonist, as stupid as it was, could've been played exactly straight).
The point of it is that while it's an excellent idea, Kylo can't be the one to do it. All he cares about is using people as tools. You'd need someone who could actually care about the lives of the people in the First Order. Like, say, Finn.
I was actually kind of insulted at how RoS almost directly implies that Finn taking over a chunk of the First Order actually could totally have worked, that there was nothing particularly special that led only him to rebel. And then nothing actually came of it.
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Huh, I'd never even spotted the problem with the dialogue there, even though one of my main complaints about TLJ is that it doesn't care about the story or the characters nearly as much as it cares about what the audience is thinking about.
There is nothing to imply Rey would say her parents were 'nobodies', because there's no reason to believe she thinks they were 'somebody important' rather than just...her parents. It's the audience that would have that shocked reaction. Oh my god she's not the daughter of Obi-Wan and Maul. Rey wasn't wondering which important lore characters birthed her.
She might have reacted poorly in that scene and said they were bad people or didn't care about her or something, but her calling them 'nobodies' when pressed doesn't fit.
Just to be clear, I like her parents not being anyone important to the universe.
The biggest problem I have with that scene is that it has by far the most interesting premise of the ST, and immediately squanders it - the idea of unwinding the First Order from within. But it basically can't happen, because there's no way you're going into a 3rd movie without a huge space battle lined up (though ironically, they could've done that and TRoS's antagonist, as stupid as it was, could've been played exactly straight).
The point of it is that while it's an excellent idea, Kylo can't be the one to do it. All he cares about is using people as tools. You'd need someone who could actually care about the lives of the people in the First Order. Like, say, Finn.
I was actually kind of insulted at how RoS almost directly implies that Finn taking over a chunk of the First Order actually could totally have worked, that there was nothing particularly special that led only him to rebel. And then nothing actually came of it.
I dont know, I think Finn becoming the Spartacus of the First Order would have been great.
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I really thought she was going to go double bladed. Would have been really nice and preferable for her already established fighting style.
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Especially with how common shotos have been in the games since KOTOR.
Also, how about lightsaber throwing stars?
It's something new, apparently
It's a new setting for books and such. I guess they could do more with it if it proves to be popular, but right now it's print only.
But I know I'm turning into a broken record on this.
Isn’t that basically a vibroblade?
You can't give someone a pirate ship in one game, and then take it back in the next game. It's rude.
Basically, yeah. Although I don't think a vibroblade can cut through anything. Or can it?
Also, can a vibroblade fully block a lightsaber?
I don't think vibroblades can cut through everything, and they operate under different mechanics than lightsabers.
To the second question, that depends entirely on if the author wants them to. KotOR vibroblades (and even normal blades) could block a lightsaber because they were all made with super rare cortosis weave blades (so rare that literally every junk trader in the galaxy stocks it), but elsewhere in the old EU using a vibroblade against a lightsaber is just a quick way to get a much, much shorter vibroblade.
There are short lightsabers. Used by Luke against Lumiya and her light whip in the old comics. I'm guessing he used his main saber to block and wrap the whip up, then close with the shorter one, but I've not read them.
KotOR had short lightsabers that reduced the penalties for dual wielding if you had them in your off hand (as opposed to two full sized sabers). Those were more short swords than daggers though, so maybe not what you're looking for.
You just kinda... chuck it at people and physics takes care of the rest.
Vibroblades can cut through a lot of stuff, but armor can definitely protect against them (the Mandalorian's armor, even before he got beskar everything, was able to deflect hits from vibroblade pikes).
Vibroblades themselves are made of metal and are basically just a knife when not whirring it up. A lightsaber would just chop right through them (unless, going from EU stuff, they're cortosis-reinforced like the flavor text explains in the KotoR games).
Nope glancing blows only
They're still dominant in combat, whether for duels or mass combat. A sword is just more convenient to carry around.
That this never happened is a crime
They did once.
May not be canon.
I guess technically it shoots lightsabers. That's pretty cool!
Wasn't this already the case last season?
Last year he was absent because he was busy. If this is true, going forward he’ll be absent by choice.
I've said before that IMO it's a tool of the Dark Side, of blood magic. It's an obsidian sacrificial dagger that kills worlds. And guess whose bony hand is on the hilt, as he orders those trillions of murders?
Yeah. There's a reason Palpatine built one, and then another as soon as the first was destroyed. Sure, it's an effective terror weapon, but this is also a galaxy where magic is real... and yet, knowledge of that has been deliberately and quite effectively suppressed, by someone.
I like to think that in the Old Republic saber-resistant weaponry and armor materials were more widely available because both Jedi and Sith were more common and always a-feudin' and a-fightin', so it was worth it to go to the trouble to get it...but also it's rarer in later eras because it happened so much that they eventually just used most of it up.
What
The point of it is that while it's an excellent idea, Kylo can't be the one to do it. All he cares about is using people as tools. You'd need someone who could actually care about the lives of the people in the First Order. Like, say, Finn.
I was actually kind of insulted at how RoS almost directly implies that Finn taking over a chunk of the First Order actually could totally have worked, that there was nothing particularly special that led only him to rebel. And then nothing actually came of it.
I dont know, I think Finn becoming the Spartacus of the First Order would have been great.
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