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Advanced Table-Top RPG Thread: 2nd Edition
Zonugal
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(He/Him) The Holiday ArmadilloI'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User, Transition Team regular
In this thread we talk about table-top RPGs such as fantasy titans Dungeons & Dragons and Pathfinder, but also stuff like Warhammer (40k), Dungeon World, Vampire the Masquerade, and many more.
In this thread we talk about our own adventures as players, game masters, and campaign-setting/game-rule writers.
In this thread we talk about the greatest D&D adventure module ever published:
In this thread we talk about our own adventures as players, game masters, and campaign-setting/game-rule writers.
In this thread we talk about the greatest D&D adventure module ever published:
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What other quick play, rules light systems do youse recommend? Happy to pay to buy in if required
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Honey Heist is a one-page RPG with a great pitch.
It's Honeycon 2017. You are going to undertake the greatest heist the world has ever seen. Two Things –One: You have a complex plan that requires precise timing. Two: You are a GODDAMN BEAR.
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Pretty much I love Indie, but I don't want to do the whole stealing relics from actual societies and peoples, Mustache Twirling Nazis make for a good "these guys are fucking bad" foil and who doesn't love Atlantis. I'm thinking the hook to start the story is that these secret departments across all major museums work together and folks fleeing from the German ones give heads up that shit is going down in Germany.
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I don't have any experience with Savage Worlds, but Genesys seems like a really great fit. The resolution system is purpose-built for the dynamic mix of success and failure and triumphs and setbacks that Indiana Jones and such are made of.
Yea I love Genesys, I'm just wondering how well it would translate to online play on a VTT versus something like Savage Worlds.
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I've only played it online and it is fine. It doesn't have fiddly positioning to worry about by default so if you can handle the dice, there isn't any problems.
Sounds like Spirit of the Century to me.
Rad! I've been running a bit of an impromptu V5 game after a newbie GM in our group had trouble figuring out their first game. I've been flying by the seat of my pants for the two sessions so far, but players are enjoying themselves.
In other news, I also ran Lancer again after my friends argued me from a one shot to a once a month game. Only issue is I have... a total of seven people who want to play now? One of my friends talked about potentially learning to run things to split the group, but hasn't hard committed. Suppose if he does, I can finally try Lancer as a player!
You are not the person I would've expected to post that
Much love, Shorty :heartbeat:
I put my original post in a spoiler tag because re-reading it I felt it was offputting and weirdly judgemental. Here's the less weird rephrase:
Shorty's picking up what I'm putting down
Thanks, @Shorty
Unless there's been a remake, Spirit of the Century is so very dated in its use of FATE mechanics I'd be wary of bringing it to the table. Setting is still great but there's a reason every edition of FATE has reduced the number of Aspects
Genesys is what I'd choose, but Savage Worlds does pulp real well especially with some of the settings books (Deadlands Noir is great to steal from). Only recommendations about Savage Worlds are to start your players at Seasoned or higher, low level play is only fun for maybe one introductory session and to double and triple check that your players have character builds that can work as a party in your setting. Savage Worlds characters can be a lot of things and it's a bit too easy to make a character who is less useful to the way the game is going. Being the only one with 'Ride' in a setting with teleporters and whatnot.
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I know I missed out on the kickstarter/whatever Hasbro was doing for the rebirth of Hero Quest
I am curious since I did miss out for reasons {I forgot what my kickstart info was {email and password} and real life things prevented me from getting it {work going totally to shit and paying the property tax}
I am curious would I able to get the stuff that were add ons when it/or if comes out
I think online Genesys dice rollers can even eliminate the fiddliness of failures cancelling successes and advantages/disadvantages, and just give you a simple result.
I backed this, but I think only a few figures are going to be exclusive for backers. It looks like the rest of it will be available at some point. I'm no expert though, but the way it's worded makes it seem that way.
Awesome ill probably go with Genesys then as its the system i know.
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Here's my current plan for how the system at large will work, mechanically, but I wanted to get folks' thoughts first.
There are five primary attributes: Toughness (a combo of D&D's Strength & Constitution), Dexterity, Intelligence, Wisdom, & Charisma
During character creation every player gets 15 points to allot to those five attributes, with a 5 being the maximum for any attribute (at 1st-level).
With a character's attribute scores "locked in" their scores indicate how many die they get to roll for skills/actions linked to that attribute.
For example, let's take a "strong" character (Toughness 5, Dexterity 4, Intelligence 2, Wisdom 2, Charisma 2).
For attacking with a physical, melee weapon they'd be allowed to roll five d6's. For intimidating someone through a show of strength, they'd also get to roll five d6's. But rolling to know something about chemistry? They'd be stuck with two d6's.
My immediate thought is that I should restrict that ability somewhat by restricting it behind feats, so a character starts off being able to roll a maximum of three d6's, but they'd have to purchase something like "Improved Melee Attacks" to be allowed to use four d6's (and such).
Or maybe I restrict that starting allotment number from 15 down to 12?
Thoughts? Feelings?
Like, are we talking get as many 4+ as you can, as long as you get a single 6 you succeed, or what?
Uhhhhhhh *pushes papers around*
Let me think on that and get back to you!
But wait! Jet Jaguar leaps from the shadows to help fight Mecha Godzilla! He offers himself as a sacrifice to give the party their health back so they don't die like goosing scrubs to this boss fight I spent thirty minutes planning, dangit!.
You know what his last 'words' were.
I should try more of that line for sure.
Danger Patrol Pocket is playable with one player sheet, though to GM it you'd be well-served by looking at Danger Patrol regular for scene ideas.
Agon is some new spice but it's not much different from DPP, just a little more crunch to it.
Fiasco is a classic of improv backstab storytelling, and it's got a new edition with prompt decks instead of dice allocation for the initial setup.
So that course is set. Kind of thinking of going 2 LL in Lich, 1 in Goblin for the rad tier 1 hacking systems, then grabbing Lesson of the Open Door to increase my save target and provide extra heat. Then after that going 2 Napoleon and 1 Sunzi to get access to Stasis Bolt, Stasis Barrier, and Accelerate. Plus probably grab Superior By Design for extra leeway with the Lich’s small heat cap and a bonus immunity to impaired. Go for 3 in the Technophile talent and 2 in Black Thumb for extra survivability to aid with the Lich’s flimsiness from the overshields, ability to drop heat and status, and the save re-rolls from technophile. Then probably Stormbringer 1 to use with the Unraveller if someone else can reliably provide lock-on. Not sure on the talents to focus on from LL 3-6, maybe Hacker. Think that’s a solid-ish build in theory, but hard to say without seeing it in action.
I really hope I actually get to play now though.
The setting was research scientists trying to get information out of an Antarctic base.
It was the first time for a lot of people improving/role playing and ended up involving a whole lot of people walking scenes between characters and getting smacked over the back of the head with heavy objects.
Okay! @Straightzi, I think I am going to go with the standard d20 approach of a target number.
So in my mind I'm trying to balance around two d6's being used, so a seven being the "average" number.
That plus the character's attribute modifier and their proficiency bonus should on "average" get them around say eleven or twelve.
I am really curious about how everything works
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In short, I would say rethink the idea of a target number for a variable dice pool system. It works great if everyone is rolling 2d6 (or 3d6, or whatever), but I feel like it shifts extensively when the dice pool is variable.
That said, I do like the idea of feats or proficiencies that allow you to access more of your raw physical attributes. I think there's potentially a bit of weird narrative balance (a highly skilled but physically weak swordsman will still be rolling less dice than a big strong guy), but that's not necessarily untrue, so it depends on the types of stories you're trying to tell.
I could always lock the increase of dice behind a character's leveling & their proficiency bonus?
So say at 2nd level, a character has a Toughness score of 4, but their proficiency bonus is 2, so they are only able to use two d6's for a melee attack (but still add +4 to the roll, on account of their Toughness score). Once they reach, let's say 8th level, their proficiency bonus is now 4 and they can now use four d6's for that same melee attack.
I kind of question using the scores for both a number of dice and a bonus to the dice. Is there a reason you need to have a bonus?
Also, with that system, let's be clear about how the power curve is going to look. Assuming no other changes, you're going to be getting diminishing returns with your average rolls as you level, as things get increasingly swingier. 2d6+4 has an average roll of 11, with a range of 6-16, while 4d6+4 has an average roll of 18, with a range of 8-28. If that's the sort of thing you're looking for, that can be good, but I feel like it runs contrary to the level progression narrative you generally see.
Genesys has all skill checks as stat/skill.
The higher of the two determines how many dice you roll. The lower of the two upgrades your dice from the normal d8s to the good d12s.
So if you're sneaking, and you have 3 agility and 1 stealth, you roll 2d8 and 1d12. 3 total dice from your agility, 1 is upgraded due to your stealth skill.
Stats are expensive to raise, since there's only 5 or 6 and you apply them to every roll. Skills are cheaper.
Which bonus? The proficiency bonus (which I'd be stealing outright from D&D fifth edition because I think its a simple, effective system) or the attribute bonus? The attribute bonus I'd be fine chopping off, I'm just very used to it being applied to every roll (a carryover from the traditional d20 model).
This I will have to think on.