If that is the best excuse him and his team could come up with, he's fucked.
While I have hope, I no longer have expectation.
Things that should have sunk conservative leadership, just no longer seem to have the potency they once did. Now that it's been shown that as long as you're shameless enough, you can just wait it out, and the media will move on.
The policing bill amendments being kicked out by the Lords is great news, though. And because several of those amendments were sneaked into the bill after the Commons had passed it they can't come back now the Lords has culled them.
The policing bill amendments being kicked out by the Lords is great news, though. And because several of those amendments were sneaked into the bill after the Commons had passed it they can't come back now the Lords has culled them.
So why is this allowed? You'd think the Commons needs to vote on the finalised version.
The policing bill amendments being kicked out by the Lords is great news, though. And because several of those amendments were sneaked into the bill after the Commons had passed it they can't come back now the Lords has culled them.
So why is this allowed? You'd think the Commons needs to vote on the finalised version.
It'll go back to the Commons now. The bits that were kicked out may be reintroduced (if they weren't introduced in the Lords) by the Commons, or might be parcelled together in a new bill later on.
Introducing the amendments in the Lords was an attempt to avoid scrutiny on some awful laws that Patel wanted to make her look tough, and a gamble that the Lords wouldn't block them, possibly counting on Labour voting for them so they didn't look weak on crime (in the right wing press). As it turned out Labour peers voted them down anyway (along with other opposition Lords and Independents) and Patel's bullshit was defeated.
The bill isn't dead, but the outcome was about as good as could be hoped for in the circumstances (i.e. massive Tory majority in the Commons).
The House of Lords is more like the Canadian Senate than the US Senate: a mostly pointless assembly that cannot actually do anything the elected assembly doesn't want to do, but can suggest changes to proposed laws, or slow them down long enough for a minority government to fail.
That's it. If the Commons want a law, they will get it done, and the unelected chamber can't do anything about it. Same thing if the Commons do not want a law.
Why is it the non democratic parts of the British state are consistently the ones that act most in the interest of the public?
Look I'm not saying there's a compelling argument for abolishing democracy but
Because for all their faults, those parts don't see the next election as their top priority.
Speaking as someone who has experience with this in a tangential way, most people working for the state are interesting in building something that works, if only because it makes their job easier.
An aim that a lot of elected officials don't seem to share
The House of Lords is more like the Canadian Senate than the US Senate: a mostly pointless assembly that cannot actually do anything the elected assembly doesn't want to do, but can suggest changes to proposed laws, or slow them down long enough for a minority government to fail.
That's it. If the Commons want a law, they will get it done, and the unelected chamber can't do anything about it. Same thing if the Commons do not want a law.
Some Senators here also seem to actually take their jobs seriously, which is nice and occasionally helpful.
Why is it the non democratic parts of the British state are consistently the ones that act most in the interest of the public?
Look I'm not saying there's a compelling argument for abolishing democracy but
The house of Lords grows in influence and quality of life as Great Britain grows, so long term growth is somewhat prioritized as they aren't looking to profit and jet, they're looking to not be bothered and live in comfort. A lord of a dismal country is scarcely a lord at all.
Now that he's gone on record as not knowing and not being told that the party during lockdown was against lockdown rules, what are the odds that proof emerges showing that he did know and was told?
I mean, this all feels like a trap that Boris just put his face in.
Now that he's gone on record as not knowing and not being told that the party during lockdown was against lockdown rules, what are the odds that proof emerges showing that he did know and was told?
I mean, this all feels like a trap that Boris just put his face in.
Trying to skate by on "I didn't know (but I should have)" is really his only choice. Better it looks like he royally screwed up than consciously disregarded the rules. But as you say, at current rates I'm confident of a smoking gun being around somewhere.
The people who don't support Boris don't believe him, the people who do support him don't believe him, the purpose of his statements is not to be believed it's just going through the motions of what is expected of him because in this scenario hiding in a fridge isn't an option.
The people who don't support Boris don't believe him, the people who do support him don't believe him, the purpose of his statements is not to be believed it's just going through the motions of what is expected of him because in this scenario hiding in a fridge isn't an option.
Boats
You know things are going well when a Twitter account for a sunken ship is making fun of you.
The PM program on Radio 4 was taking the piss as well, as in a bit on checkout-less supermarkets they did include "and a bottle of wine in case I get invited to a work event" in order to show what would happen with age restricted goods.
The people who don't support Boris don't believe him, the people who do support him don't believe him, the purpose of his statements is not to be believed it's just going through the motions of what is expected of him because in this scenario hiding in a fridge isn't an option.
Reports going around that the mood has shifted within the tory ranks and a no confidence vote is on the cards. Could breach the required number of letters as early as tomorrow, or it could be after the Sue Gray report fails to properly cover for him. Either way it's sounding more and more inevitable. Seems that today's interview did him no favours.
I mean they're not wrong, Boris won them their seats...just in the late 90's, early '00s. We Brexited due to bendy bananas and the like.
Farage got them over the line though, which I get the feeling that some of the 109ers get being swing seat MPs and therefore presumably a little less insane.
Boris can perhaps win them their seats back, if they switch to Lib Dem.
This won't stop me from enjoying Johnson's increasing deterioration and humiliation, but casting a glance about the runners and riders to replace him isn't an edifying sight.
The Sun hilariously leads on a story about a Strictly dancer breaking off an engagement. Literally every single other paper has the Tory plot to oust Johnson as the headline but the Sun still can't bring itself to even pretend to be a newspaper.
The Times has been told that the prime minister had been showing symptoms of coronavirus for about a week before he went into self-isolation on March 27.
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One No 10 insider said that despite the warnings he insisted that he was fine.
“He said he was ‘strong like bull’ and banged his chest,” the source said.
You know it's bad when they start reaching for increasingly obscure MPs and ministers to handle the media round, presumably because the usual high profile figures are increasingly reluctant to stand by Johnson
Step up James Heappey and George Eustice, it is your time to shine
Some corking briefings from "senior sources" and "ex-ministers" this morning. Johnson's inability to chair a meeting coherently, continual focus on newspaper headlines rather than policy, ignoring his red box briefings, generally being the equivalent of a particularly stupid donkey. All delicious and worth savouring.
As the Guardian blog has pointed out, it's worth remembering that if the Tories have a no confidence vote and Johnson wins they can't do it again for another 12 months. That doesn't mean Johnson will necessarily remain, but they won't be able to force him out.
Boris will leave in disgrace and when the ramifications of our "canada+" Brexit deal actually hit (IE, it's not the end of the world but it's quite shit), Brexiteers will blame boris and not the concept of Brexit itself.
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While I have hope, I no longer have expectation.
Things that should have sunk conservative leadership, just no longer seem to have the potency they once did. Now that it's been shown that as long as you're shameless enough, you can just wait it out, and the media will move on.
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So why is this allowed? You'd think the Commons needs to vote on the finalised version.
Look I'm not saying there's a compelling argument for abolishing democracy but
It'll go back to the Commons now. The bits that were kicked out may be reintroduced (if they weren't introduced in the Lords) by the Commons, or might be parcelled together in a new bill later on.
Introducing the amendments in the Lords was an attempt to avoid scrutiny on some awful laws that Patel wanted to make her look tough, and a gamble that the Lords wouldn't block them, possibly counting on Labour voting for them so they didn't look weak on crime (in the right wing press). As it turned out Labour peers voted them down anyway (along with other opposition Lords and Independents) and Patel's bullshit was defeated.
The bill isn't dead, but the outcome was about as good as could be hoped for in the circumstances (i.e. massive Tory majority in the Commons).
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That's it. If the Commons want a law, they will get it done, and the unelected chamber can't do anything about it. Same thing if the Commons do not want a law.
Speaking as someone who has experience with this in a tangential way, most people working for the state are interesting in building something that works, if only because it makes their job easier.
An aim that a lot of elected officials don't seem to share
Some Senators here also seem to actually take their jobs seriously, which is nice and occasionally helpful.
The house of Lords grows in influence and quality of life as Great Britain grows, so long term growth is somewhat prioritized as they aren't looking to profit and jet, they're looking to not be bothered and live in comfort. A lord of a dismal country is scarcely a lord at all.
You know things are going well when a Twitter account for a sunken ship is making fun of you.
I mean, this all feels like a trap that Boris just put his face in.
Trying to skate by on "I didn't know (but I should have)" is really his only choice. Better it looks like he royally screwed up than consciously disregarded the rules. But as you say, at current rates I'm confident of a smoking gun being around somewhere.
Can we just nuke the fridge?
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The PM program on Radio 4 was taking the piss as well, as in a bit on checkout-less supermarkets they did include "and a bottle of wine in case I get invited to a work event" in order to show what would happen with age restricted goods.
Indiana Jones says no
MWO: Adamski
Cause I don't recognize it from any of the THREE Indiana Jones movies.
And that clip doesn't help. Fucking stupid scene. Worst scene overall in the franchise, but Doom had worse moments on average, IMO.[/quote]
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jan/18/boris-johnson-challenge-leadership-tory-mps
Feels like momentum shifting. Nobody seems to be waiting for someone else to move first
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Farage got them over the line though, which I get the feeling that some of the 109ers get being swing seat MPs and therefore presumably a little less insane.
Boris can perhaps win them their seats back, if they switch to Lib Dem.
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Voter suppression!!
I believe there was only one prove case of voter fraud in the past couple of years.
Also infuriating to see Tory's trotting out the line that they've frozen the licence fee to to put more money in the pockets of pensioners.
Conveniently ignoring all the other tax rises they're implementing and inflation etc
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If he loses the premiership and future opportunities to host HIGNFY, what else has he got in his life?
Making toy buses out of old wine crates
Step up James Heappey and George Eustice, it is your time to shine
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Well. Gonna be a fuckin spicy PMQs today.
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Boris will leave in disgrace and when the ramifications of our "canada+" Brexit deal actually hit (IE, it's not the end of the world but it's quite shit), Brexiteers will blame boris and not the concept of Brexit itself.