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This time, we’ve got him [Trump’s Top Secret Docs]

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    DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    Oghulk wrote: »

    Holy fucking shit hahahahahaha

    I don't believe that until someone other than Newsweek reports it

    Newsweek is supposed to be a neoconservative rag these days, so if anything them reporting on that is more damning IMO

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited August 2022
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    Oghulk wrote: »

    Holy fucking shit hahahahahaha

    I don't believe that until someone other than Newsweek reports it

    Newsweek is supposed to be a neoconservative rag these days, so if anything them reporting on that is more damning IMO

    I've seen twitter-speculation (based on Newsweek's status as a stealth conservative-rag, I assume) that they're purposefully trumpeting a false charge/detail that can be disproven, so that the cult can then be like "well that charge was phony, so they're all phony!"

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    TicaldfjamTicaldfjam Snoqualmie, WARegistered User regular
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    Oghulk wrote: »

    Holy fucking shit hahahahahaha

    I don't believe that until someone other than Newsweek reports it

    Newsweek is supposed to be a neoconservative rag these days, so if anything them reporting on that is more damning IMO

    Literally a dumber version subplot of "Skyfall". JFC!

    And we all know Trump's bae, Vlad, had first rights to that list.

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    ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    edited August 2022
    Are we sure that Ethan Hunt didn't orchestrate this so he could steal that file to sell to Max?

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    Rand Paul has a genius idea to turn this thing around



    The Espionage Act is bad, actually!

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    HacksawHacksaw J. Duggan Esq. Wrestler at LawRegistered User regular
    Repeal federal narcotics laws first you feckless cowards

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    MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    I know it won't come as a shock to anyone here, but boy howdy is it wild to watch the Republican party just openly confirm, repeatedly, that they don't believe in or support literally anything.

    Law and Order? Overthrow the FBI!
    Homeland Security? Repeal the Espionage Act!

    I am in the business of saving lives.
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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    in many ways they're quite the political realists, recognizing that much of lawmaking is a farce with which to construct the weapons of your will

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    Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    They're working the refs, same thing they always do.

    They want the FBI around. Murdering civil rights activists and kicking down doors over unpaid fines is like half of conservatism.

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    Now they're calling Dan Crenshaw a RINO because he said that saying "defund the FBI" and "repeal the Espionage Act" is dumb, I love it

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    GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    Dan's been on their shitlist for a while. Especially after he voted for redflag gun laws.

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    LadaiLadai Registered User regular
    edited August 2022
    The Espionage Act DOES include a dog shit provision that makes it illegal to make statements during wartime that would hurt the war effort. It was used primarily to put socialists in jail for speaking against the draft during WWI. Eugene Debbs was sentenced to 10 years for violating it after addressing a crowd on a street corner that included draft-age men. Later, JFK tried unsuccessfully to use it to silence US reporters in Vietnam. It, or at least that provision, should absolutely be repealed.

    That said, Rand Paul is a disingenuous shit who never seemed to care about any of this until exactly two days ago (funny he doesn't mention who was specifically targeted by the law back then).

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    Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    Dan's been on their shitlist for a while. Especially after he voted for redflag gun laws.

    Crenshaw is watching a lot of the firebrand right wingers burn out and wants to be one of the long term power brokers.

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    i have to hand it to andrew yang, he perfectly played his way into getting a bunch of attention on him despite doing nothing and saying nothing

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    TefTef Registered User regular
    I for one am shocked that the capitalists would allow Yang, proud supporter of capital, to use their platforms

    help a fellow forumer meet their mental health care needs because USA healthcare sucks!

    Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better

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    Brovid HasselsmofBrovid Hasselsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
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    MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    More journalists need to ask "What exactly does that even mean?"

    I am in the business of saving lives.
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    DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    The forward party wants to get paid, that's the only goal

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    MagellMagell Detroit Machine Guns Fort MyersRegistered User regular
    While I appreciate Acosta not taking a non-answer for an answer from Yang, you don't really see journalists do that to members of the big parties. Occasionally somebody will do that to a Democrat, but it never happens to Republicans who have even worse answers than Yang.

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited August 2022
    Magell wrote: »
    While I appreciate Acosta not taking a non-answer for an answer from Yang, you don't really see journalists do that to members of the big parties. Occasionally somebody will do that to a Democrat, but it never happens to Republicans who have even worse answers than Yang.

    They've started to do it with this document warrant stuff, but that's only because they can talk about the thing making them money right now.

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    I'm skeptical that Donald Trump will ever face legal consequences for anything

    But if I had to pick him getting consequences for something it would be the sexual assault. I don't give a fuck if he nicked a bunch of classified documents.

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    DepressperadoDepressperado I just wanted to see you laughing in the pizza rainRegistered User regular
    edited August 2022
    the day my presidency ends I'm gonna steal all the X-files and I'm gonna spend my retirement solving supernatural mysteries

    edit: "Jimmy Carts, I'm going after a peanut butter golem here and I need an expert."

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    JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    Solar wrote: »
    I'm skeptical that Donald Trump will ever face legal consequences for anything

    But if I had to pick him getting consequences for something it would be the sexual assault. I don't give a fuck if he nicked a bunch of classified documents.

    All crimes are crimes and in a just world he would've been yeeted into the Atlantic via trebuchet years before he ever though about running for prssident. However those classified documents may involve US nuclear shit and there's a non zero percent chance that everybody from MBS to Kim Jong Un has rifled through them at their leisure. The knock on effect of this is something that will directly affect a lot of people. Millions perhaps.

    So like, we should absolutely care he knicked a bunch of classified documents.

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    cursedkingcursedking Registered User regular
    I may have missed something but given that they’ve listed the contents of the files they found, I think they would have mentioned if it was nuclear related.

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    HacksawHacksaw J. Duggan Esq. Wrestler at LawRegistered User regular
    Gotta hand it to Yang and the networks: there's a perfect symbiosis of "I need attention or I will literally wither away and die" coupled with "We need to facilitate the gormless flailing of histrionic folks in order to draw an audience" between the two of them.

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    TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    Oghulk wrote: »

    Holy fucking shit hahahahahaha

    I don't believe that until someone other than Newsweek reports it

    Newsweek is supposed to be a neoconservative rag these days, so if anything them reporting on that is more damning IMO

    Isn't part of the problem with Newsweek that much like Forbes you never know if "Newsweek reports" means "Newsweek the magazine with staff" or "some rando's blog on the Newsweek domain" ?

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    Kane Red RobeKane Red Robe Master of Magic ArcanusRegistered User regular
    cursedking wrote: »
    I may have missed something but given that they’ve listed the contents of the files they found, I think they would have mentioned if it was nuclear related.

    I do not believe there has been an official listing of the contents of the files recovered beyond what their classification level is.

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    Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    astrobstrd wrote: »
    In some fairness to Trump, the secret password to look at top secret docs is "Bawitabadabangdabangdiggy".

    Makes sense, the guy who wrote that song is an expert on top secret North Korean affairs afterall

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    JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    edited August 2022
    cursedking wrote: »
    I may have missed something but given that they’ve listed the contents of the files they found, I think they would have mentioned if it was nuclear related.


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/08/11/garland-trump-mar-a-lago/
    Classified documents relating to nuclear weapons were among the items FBI agents sought in a search of former president Donald Trump’s Florida residence on Monday, according to people familiar with the investigation.

    While we don't know for sure what was in those documents, we do know that they took Sensitive Compartmented Information, Highly Classified Secret Squirrel intel out of there. So even if the nuke stuff is minor there's the possibility of all sorts of National Security related shit being fucked.

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    cursedkingcursedking Registered User regular
    cursedking wrote: »
    I may have missed something but given that they’ve listed the contents of the files they found, I think they would have mentioned if it was nuclear related.

    I do not believe there has been an official listing of the contents of the files recovered beyond what their classification level is.

    I thought I saw reports that it was stuff on macron and pictures?

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    DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    edited August 2022
    cursedking wrote: »
    cursedking wrote: »
    I may have missed something but given that they’ve listed the contents of the files they found, I think they would have mentioned if it was nuclear related.

    I do not believe there has been an official listing of the contents of the files recovered beyond what their classification level is.

    I thought I saw reports that it was stuff on macron and pictures?

    That was part of what they found, yes, but they were looking for Classified documents relating to nuclear weapons, which you know, very alarming

    The Washington Post: FBI searched Trump’s home to look for nuclear documents and other items, sources say.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/08/11/garland-trump-mar-a-lago/

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    ChallChall Registered User regular
    cursedking wrote: »
    cursedking wrote: »
    I may have missed something but given that they’ve listed the contents of the files they found, I think they would have mentioned if it was nuclear related.

    I do not believe there has been an official listing of the contents of the files recovered beyond what their classification level is.

    I thought I saw reports that it was stuff on macron and pictures?

    No the reporters were confused: some of the boxes had Tr*mp's macaroni pictures

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    DedwrekkaDedwrekka Metal Hell adjacentRegistered User regular
    Multiple cases of right-wingers trying to invade FBI offices due to this, and just utterly tripping over the curb on it.

    One guy thought he could use a nail gun to get through bullet proof glass in the lobby of the screening building which wasn't even the working office of the FBI.

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    JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    edited August 2022
    Dedwrekka wrote: »
    Multiple cases of right-wingers trying to invade FBI offices due to this, and just utterly tripping over the curb on it.

    One guy thought he could use a nail gun to get through bullet proof glass in the lobby of the screening building which wasn't even the working office of the FBI.

    It should be duly noted this guy is dead as fuck now.

    Edit: not in a figurative since. He fled the scene and the fuzz dropped him somewhere else after a brief shootout.

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    Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    He fled to a cornfield by the Ren faire grounds in Ohio

    The WaPo reporter following the story is Meryl Kornfield

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    I hate living through history, but sometimes it is very funny

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    i was gonna say, of all the people/organizations that right-wing nutjobs feel the need to send death threats/doxxes/gunmen at, the FBI is probably the best equipped to both protect themselves and punish the perpetrators.

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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    edited August 2022
    KalTorak wrote: »
    i was gonna say, of all the people/organizations that right-wing nutjobs feel the need to send death threats/doxxes/gunmen at, the FBI is probably the best equipped to both protect themselves and punish the perpetrators.

    I dunno, if the FBI cracks down TOO hard on the white supremacists they're soon gonna run into staffing shortages

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    PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    KalTorak wrote: »
    i was gonna say, of all the people/organizations that right-wing nutjobs feel the need to send death threats/doxxes/gunmen at, the FBI is probably the best equipped to both protect themselves and punish the perpetrators.

    I dunno, of the FBI cracks down TOO hard on the white supremacists they're soon gonna run into staffing shortages

    I'll cross my fingers extra hard, then.

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