Well, shocking during Maiden as melee sucks. You are silence off and on all the damn time, and my first priority was spamming the Grounding Totem button until it actually cast I spammed Shocks when I could and probably didn't keep track of Fire/Earth rotation very well. Good point though.
Yea, my crit rate unbuffed is around 25 percent, 28ish buffed I think?
This is our enhancement shaman that doesn't suck, by the way. That was our first night on solarian, so that fight's way out of whack, but everything else was fairly clean.
God you have no idea, getting some of these people to do what they need to do to get some decent DPS out is like pulling teeth.
Steel teeth.
Welded to steel jaws.
With more steel.
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FairchildRabbit used short words that were easy to understand, like "Hello Pooh, how about Lunch ?"Registered Userregular
edited March 2008
For those of y'all who follow the PvP system more closely than I, please tell me if these assumptions are true:
- Patch 2.4 will appear in mid-May, shockingly coinciding with the release of AGE OF CONAN and possibly WARHAMMER ONLINE.
- Patch 2.4 will make the Season 2 Arena gear available as "regular" PVP awards for Honor Points and BG tokens.
- If the Season 2 gear is available, the Season 1 gear (the Gladiator's ____ stuff) will see their Honor prices discounted. So rather than bust my butt grinding honor to get one of the One-Hand/Off-Hand weapons combos, I'm better off saving my Honor 'til May when the prices will be cheaper, or spending it on the upcoming Season 2 Vengeful Gladiator gear.
For those of y'all who follow the PvP system more closely than I, please tell me if these assumptions are true:
- Patch 2.4 will appear in mid-May, shockingly coinciding with the release of AGE OF CONAN and possibly WARHAMMER ONLINE.
- Patch 2.4 will make the Season 2 Arena gear available as "regular" PVP awards for Honor Points and BG tokens.
- If the Season 2 gear is available, the Season 1 gear (the Gladiator's ____ stuff) will see their Honor prices discounted. So rather than bust my butt grinding honor to get one of the One-Hand/Off-Hand weapons combos, I'm better off saving my Honor 'til May when the prices will be cheaper, or spending it on the upcoming Season 2 Vengeful Gladiator gear.
If s2 is purchasable with honor, I would expect them to retire the old s1 gladiator pieces and remove them from the honor vendors.
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FairchildRabbit used short words that were easy to understand, like "Hello Pooh, how about Lunch ?"Registered Userregular
edited March 2008
Thanks for the prompt answers. Yes, I do see that 2.4 started downloading this week, so a 2-3 week release is probably about right.
As far as I know, WARHAMMER is still shooting for a May release, altho they are not offering as ironclad a guarantee as the CONAN people.
Good point about the Season 1 Gladiator stuff going away, thanks.
Thanks for the prompt answers. Yes, I do see that 2.4 started downloading this week, so a 2-3 week release is probably about right.
2.4 is probably coming out on 3/25 (or maybe the week after which would be April Fools, which would be... amusing). However, 2.4 is the Sunwell patch and will not trigger Season 4. Season 4 is what will cause the whole armor shift and no date has been given for that update. I think mid-may is a reasonable guess but who really knows.
Also, as a side note, while the Season 4 patch will shift the current S3 weapons and shoulders to discounted arena prices (ie what S2 is now), the rating requirements are not going away completely. They are going to be reduced, but the new numbers are completely unknown. Personally I'm guessing 1700 for weapons and 1850 for shoulders, but again these are not known at this time.
Well, we're getting pretty desperate and I figured I may as well drop a line here. US Hellscream Horde (6/6 SSC, 3/4 TK) guild is looking for a full-time resto shaman. We raid 7-11 CST Tues, Thurs, Sun and may soon add another day for farmed content.
WE ARE WILLING TO GEAR YOU IF YOU HAVE THE SKILLS (by which I mean Chain Heal bound to every key on your keyboard and a solid faceroll technique) AND CAN SHOW UP CONSISTENTLY http://ga.guildportal.com if you're interested, and I apologize for interrupting whatever discussion was going on.
I feel like I have dropped too much hit for other stuff.
From what I read on the EJ forums, I wouldn't think so, since they say that the 9% you get from talents is all you ever need.
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Liquid GhostDO YOU HEAR THE VOICES, TOO?!Registered Userregular
edited March 2008
It's not so much that it's all you ever need, it's just that a shaman's specials are already hit capped after the full gamut of usual talents, so it takes a back seat when compared to other stats. A lot of your damage is still going to be auto-attacks, so +hit still helps, but unless you've got a decent amount of crit and AP going, there's no reason to skip out on those things in favor of a little bit more +hit, especially considering how comparatively expensive that stat can be when it comes down to the item budget.
+hit certainly makes shamanistic rage a lot less prone to assholery... while grinding.
I can't wait to PvP as enhancement after the next patch, and I can't wait to do serious DPS as either enh or ele. Honestly, since getting my shaman up to around 40, I've been convinced that my first character (Tauren fury warrior) should've just been a goddamn shaman. At least enh shaman are useful in PvE and PvP, or will soon be.
I just it 70, and respeced Resto. Ok that was a few weeks ago. I'm sitting at 6500 health, 8100 mana, 840 healing, and 157 mp5 (while casting), with Water Shield on. This is good enough to heal heroics, right? Right? Cause I have no idea how to gear up more (other than honor/arena gear) while staying out of heroics, but I don't wanna cause my group to wipe over and over.
I can't say about values (that seems like a shitload of MP5), but remember that some heroics are easier than others. By doing easier ones to gear up, little by little, you can break your way in to the megagear.
Ramparts and Mech are both pretty far on the doable side, especially if you have a well-geared tank and some ranged DPS. Hell, I tanked heroic ramparts successfully at level 69 on my paladin to get a nether for my goggles.
The honor gear is a great way to gear up, as well. It'll take a lot of dedication to get it, but the gear is crazy good. Not balanced for PvE, to be sure, but its raw healing values are a very nice starting point, not to mention having some extra armor/health makes it a little less instantly fatal to make mistakes.
This is really low, and you need to increase it if you want to stand some sort of chance against many of the hardest hitting bosses and single trash mobs out there. Underbog lords and the mechanar static charge elementals will eat you for lunch with this amount of +healing, even chain casting max-rank healing wave.
I'd recommend at *least* 1k before you start trying to do heroics. Certain mobs you'd want to have at least 1200.
Managed to pick up the Bowstitched Leggings off Assgalore last night. Now I just need to find someone who can cut an Inscribed Pyrestone and farm for the epic Cobrascale leg armour. Couldn't believe there wasn't a single item of Cobrascale leg patches on the AH, not even the low level stuff.
I never play my 63 enhancement shaman, so I'm kind of thinking about switching to resto, and only playing him when I can get into instance runs.
First off, should I go with this heavier resto build, or this more solo-friendly build, since I think I will inevitably have to quest at least a little bit, for quest gear rewards?
How little +healing can I get by with for Blood Furnace/Slave Pens/Underbog etc? My healing gear is pretty crappy, as in I think my best healing weapon is probably some 35ish +dmg/healing weapon and the rest of the gear follows that level of quality.
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I never play my 63 enhancement shaman, so I'm kind of thinking about switching to resto, and only playing him when I can get into instance runs.
First off, should I go with this heavier resto build, or this more solo-friendly build, since I think I will inevitably have to quest at least a little bit, for quest gear rewards?
How little +healing can I get by with for Blood Furnace/Slave Pens/Underbog etc? My healing gear is pretty crappy, as in I think my best healing weapon is probably some 35ish +dmg/healing weapon and the rest of the gear follows that level of quality.
If you're specced resto you could get away with 300-400 +heals.
Have a look on the AH for one of the green scepters of Something. They have about +100 healing...I used one of those to tank on my paladin for a while.
FairchildRabbit used short words that were easy to understand, like "Hello Pooh, how about Lunch ?"Registered Userregular
edited March 2008
DW. Not much point in taking Stormstrike until you can use two weapons to take full advantage of it. You'll be gaining levels so quickly that you won't have long to wait for both.
Question about shaman twinks. I'm looking for thoughts on my plan to move a 49 enchance shaman twink into 59 AV matches as elemental. I mainly want a change of pace and activities, and to get a bit more honor from games. It seems like I'd do okay just stacking "of the invoker" or "of the sorcerer" gear from the outlands. I'd need to play defense to avoid leveling as the npcs get killed. Am I overlooking anything which would make this a bad idea?
I've often heard 49 is a sweet spot for shaman pvp but it is hard to know if someone is bitter because their new arena team is getting rocked by S3 geared groups doing a weekly reform to play at 1500.
So I have this problem that I think you dudes can help me out with. The wife of one of my friends plays an enh shaman, and she is, to put it bluntly, terrible. Does dps on par with the tanks terrible. I don't know how this is actually possible, so I turn to you guys for a quick summary of the things a dual wielding enh shammy should do in combat to put out what we'll call respectable dps for the purposes of this discussion (we'll shoot for 600-700 dps...I'm not aiming high at this point).
Well, you can check out the elitists jerks thread on that site, but here are the basics.
SLOW weapons MH AND OH. 2.6 is what to shoot for. 2.3 and faster is utter garbage, regardless of the DPS on of the weapon. Yes, this means you will be using green BoE maces over epic daggers and such.
Use WF/WF on those slow weapons. Get a addon that tracks the hidden WF cooldown, save Stormstrike when possible for when this the cooldown is off.
Shock Rotation: Flame, then Earth. Repeat. Ditch Flame if the mob won't last long enough for the DoT to tick alot.
Don't stack hit, instead:
STR
CRIT
AGI
AP
For PvE, you want the talent in the resto tree for hit rating to cap your special attacks without any hit rating from gear. You will add hit rating through gear (it's unavoidable really), but you do not need to seek it out.
Crusader is better than Potency enchant even at level 70. Executioner/Mongoose is best but expensive.
She will end up wearing alot of leather items, it's ok.
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FairchildRabbit used short words that were easy to understand, like "Hello Pooh, how about Lunch ?"Registered Userregular
edited March 2008
Pop the Grace of Air and Strength of Earth totems to increase her crit rating and AP. There are several quest reward trinkets in Outland that provide +AP boosts upon use; activate them whenever possible.
I am thinking of doing 33/7/21 for Arena play (5v5). I really like the idea of instant ghost wolf and the only thing I would be giving up is Lightning overload.
So, should I go with leatherworking on my ele Shaman for the Netherstrike Armour or would going herb and alch (which my warrior would benefit from too) be a better idea?
Basicly how much does LW suck and is that set worth it for my Shaman?
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kaleeditySometimes science is more art than scienceRegistered Userregular
edited March 2008
hit rating's still 80% or so as good as strength or the other "good" stats per rating point
it isn't as terrible as agility is for warriors, or crit/dodge rating for druids.
Even though it would destroy balance and make no lore sense, letting Shaman wear plate would get rid of all the itemization problems. Enhance basically wants the same gear as DPS warriors (and ret too now I believe), and the healing gear can then apply to both resto and holy.
Even though it would destroy balance and make no lore sense, letting Shaman wear plate would get rid of all the itemization problems. Enhance basically wants the same gear as DPS warriors (and ret too now I believe), and the healing gear can then apply to both resto and holy.
I've said the same thing numerous times. People think I'm crazy until I explain my item values to them. Hunters and Rogues are all for it. :winky:
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Yea, my crit rate unbuffed is around 25 percent, 28ish buffed I think?
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With more steel.
- Patch 2.4 will appear in mid-May, shockingly coinciding with the release of AGE OF CONAN and possibly WARHAMMER ONLINE.
- Patch 2.4 will make the Season 2 Arena gear available as "regular" PVP awards for Honor Points and BG tokens.
- If the Season 2 gear is available, the Season 1 gear (the Gladiator's ____ stuff) will see their Honor prices discounted. So rather than bust my butt grinding honor to get one of the One-Hand/Off-Hand weapons combos, I'm better off saving my Honor 'til May when the prices will be cheaper, or spending it on the upcoming Season 2 Vengeful Gladiator gear.
Unless they totally like to ignore crashing bugs for Macs.
And isn't warhammer not due until the end of the year?
If s2 is purchasable with honor, I would expect them to retire the old s1 gladiator pieces and remove them from the honor vendors.
As far as I know, WARHAMMER is still shooting for a May release, altho they are not offering as ironclad a guarantee as the CONAN people.
Good point about the Season 1 Gladiator stuff going away, thanks.
2.4 is probably coming out on 3/25 (or maybe the week after which would be April Fools, which would be... amusing). However, 2.4 is the Sunwell patch and will not trigger Season 4. Season 4 is what will cause the whole armor shift and no date has been given for that update. I think mid-may is a reasonable guess but who really knows.
Also, as a side note, while the Season 4 patch will shift the current S3 weapons and shoulders to discounted arena prices (ie what S2 is now), the rating requirements are not going away completely. They are going to be reduced, but the new numbers are completely unknown. Personally I'm guessing 1700 for weapons and 1850 for shoulders, but again these are not known at this time.
WE ARE WILLING TO GEAR YOU IF YOU HAVE THE SKILLS (by which I mean Chain Heal bound to every key on your keyboard and a solid faceroll technique) AND CAN SHOW UP CONSISTENTLY
http://ga.guildportal.com if you're interested, and I apologize for interrupting whatever discussion was going on.
From what I read on the EJ forums, I wouldn't think so, since they say that the 9% you get from talents is all you ever need.
I... I miss being Enhancement.
I can't wait to PvP as enhancement after the next patch, and I can't wait to do serious DPS as either enh or ele. Honestly, since getting my shaman up to around 40, I've been convinced that my first character (Tauren fury warrior) should've just been a goddamn shaman. At least enh shaman are useful in PvE and PvP, or will soon be.
My first post, yay.
Ramparts and Mech are both pretty far on the doable side, especially if you have a well-geared tank and some ranged DPS. Hell, I tanked heroic ramparts successfully at level 69 on my paladin to get a nether for my goggles.
The honor gear is a great way to gear up, as well. It'll take a lot of dedication to get it, but the gear is crazy good. Not balanced for PvE, to be sure, but its raw healing values are a very nice starting point, not to mention having some extra armor/health makes it a little less instantly fatal to make mistakes.
This is really low, and you need to increase it if you want to stand some sort of chance against many of the hardest hitting bosses and single trash mobs out there. Underbog lords and the mechanar static charge elementals will eat you for lunch with this amount of +healing, even chain casting max-rank healing wave.
I'd recommend at *least* 1k before you start trying to do heroics. Certain mobs you'd want to have at least 1200.
First off, should I go with this heavier resto build, or this more solo-friendly build, since I think I will inevitably have to quest at least a little bit, for quest gear rewards?
How little +healing can I get by with for Blood Furnace/Slave Pens/Underbog etc? My healing gear is pretty crappy, as in I think my best healing weapon is probably some 35ish +dmg/healing weapon and the rest of the gear follows that level of quality.
If you're specced resto you could get away with 300-400 +heals.
Have a look on the AH for one of the green scepters of Something. They have about +100 healing...I used one of those to tank on my paladin for a while.
DW, unless you don't have the weapons for it right away, in that case, SS.
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I've often heard 49 is a sweet spot for shaman pvp but it is hard to know if someone is bitter because their new arena team is getting rocked by S3 geared groups doing a weekly reform to play at 1500.
Thanks
So, what do I tell her to do in combat?
SLOW weapons MH AND OH. 2.6 is what to shoot for. 2.3 and faster is utter garbage, regardless of the DPS on of the weapon. Yes, this means you will be using green BoE maces over epic daggers and such.
Use WF/WF on those slow weapons. Get a addon that tracks the hidden WF cooldown, save Stormstrike when possible for when this the cooldown is off.
Shock Rotation: Flame, then Earth. Repeat. Ditch Flame if the mob won't last long enough for the DoT to tick alot.
Don't stack hit, instead:
STR
CRIT
AGI
AP
For PvE, you want the talent in the resto tree for hit rating to cap your special attacks without any hit rating from gear. You will add hit rating through gear (it's unavoidable really), but you do not need to seek it out.
Crusader is better than Potency enchant even at level 70. Executioner/Mongoose is best but expensive.
She will end up wearing alot of leather items, it's ok.
Anyone that is 40/21 try this new spec yet?
Basicly how much does LW suck and is that set worth it for my Shaman?
it isn't as terrible as agility is for warriors, or crit/dodge rating for druids.
It makes gearing up sucky too because you compete with more classes.
Though maybe that doesn't help with the whole competition thing.
I've said the same thing numerous times. People think I'm crazy until I explain my item values to them. Hunters and Rogues are all for it. :winky:
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